All The Evidence Venom Is Actually In The MCU

Will the Venom movie be set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? There's a lot of evidence that says it might be more connected than we though.

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Is Venom in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? It's not been confirmed, but there's a lot of evidence Eddie Brock may actually exist alongside the Avengers.

In March 2016, Sony officially announced that they were launching a spinoff Spider-villains universe. First up is Venom, due for release in October this year. Early reports suggested that these villain movies were envisioned as a completely separate universe to the MCU. But that didn't stop fans speculating, even at that early a stage.

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As the months have passed, the situation has become even more confusing. It's currently difficult to say whether or not Venom will be part of the wider MCU, but the evidence is building up. They may not be made by Marvel, but there's a good chance that these R-rated spinoffs may have some sort of link to the mainstream Marvel movies. Let's run through the evidence.

Everything Marvel and Sony Have Said About Venom Being in The MCU (This Page)

Everything Marvel and Sony Have Said About Venom Being in The MCU

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At first, it seemed clear that the Sony films would have no relationship to the MCU. In March last year, Spider-Man: Homecoming director Jon Watts explicitly said that Venom was "not connected to the Marvel world". Marvel visionary Kevin Feige gave a similar response three months later, but added an important qualification: "For now, there is no plan for Venom in the MCU. It's a Sony project."

Only a few days passed before Homecoming producer Amy Pascal complicated the issue. Pascal left fans thrilled when she described the Sony spinoffs as "adjuncts" to the MCU. She seemed to be describing the same kind of relationship the TV shows have with the main Marvel Studios movies. Marvel's TV series, like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Daredevil, are set in the wider MCU and frequently contain subtle references to Marvel's movies, yet their loose relationship with the PG-13 film franchise means they can explore a wider range of narratives, styles, and tones. Pascal's word "adjunct" describes them perfectly, and she seemed to be suggesting that we'd see a similar approach with Sony's movies.

Pascal and Feige swiftly retracted the statement, and Feige stressed that "right now, Spidey is in the MCU and it's just Spidey." Still, Pascal continued to muddy the water, suggesting that fans may well see a Spider-Man/Venom crossover. "Venom is a character that is closely associated with Spidey," she observed, "and there may be some day where you see them together, you never know."

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Finally, Pascal closed the issue by making a statement that seemed very similar to her "adjunct" comment.

"First, there is Spider-Man happily in the place where he’s supposed to be which is in the Marvel Universe. I think everything comes from that. This is the signpost, the tentpole, the signature and… the other movies that Sony’s going to make, in their relationship to this [MCU] Spider-Man, take place in this world. Although you’re not going to see them in the Marvel Universe, it’s in the same reality."

Significantly, this time round Feige supported Pascal by declaring she had given "the perfect answer".

So, it really does seem as though Venom - and, of course, Sony's other spinoffs - may well be set in the wider MCU, just without major impact on the Avengers side of the story. At the same time, though, the comments have been ambiguous and confused enough to leave fans wary and uncertain.

Key Release Dates
  • Venom (2018) release date: Oct 05, 2018
  • Silver and Black release date:
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