Star Wars: The Last Jedi star Adam Driver calls his villainous Kylo Ren “juvenile” in a new interview. With the release of the eighth Star Wars  film in the Skywalker family saga about five weeks away, director Rian Johnson and cast members from The Last Jedi are starting to give more tidbits about what is certain to be one of the biggest releases of 2017.

Naturally, fans are sure to perk up their ears when the likes of Driver speaks, as he reprises his role of the fallen son of Han Solo (Harrison Ford) and General Leia Organa (Carrie Fisher) in the new Star Wars trilogy’s hotly anticipated penultimate episode. While any of the cast members are hard-pressed to part with specific details, at least Driver seems free to talk about Kylo Ren’s motivations and source of his anger.

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In an interview with the UK edition of GQ, Driver points out how Kylo Ren’s behavior is “juvenile” and where that behavior stems from:

It makes complete sense how juvenile he can be. You can see that with our leadership and politics. You have world leaders who you imagine — or hope or pray — are living by kind of a higher code of ethics. But it really all comes down to them feeling wronged or unloved or wanting validation.

Of course, the first part of Driver’s comments are very thinly-veiled, yet he’s careful not to name names of political leaders both here and abroad. As for “feeling wronged or unloved or wanting validation,” clearly fans got a pretty good feel for that with Kylo Ren’s behavior in The Force Awakens, whether in his displays of temper – like when he laid waste with his lightsaber to the chambers where Rey (Daisy Ridley) was behind held captive after she escaped – or in the Last Jedi trailer, where the powerful villain appears to smash his helmet into a wall out of frustration.

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As for not feeling loved, that part of Kylo Ren’s psyche was well-summed-up in his lethal confrontation with Han Solo on Starkiller Base in The Force Awakens.

It will be interesting to see how much more of Kylo Ren’s fragility is explored in The Last Jedi, but certainly the “wanting validation” phrase he speaks of in his new interview is most certainly tied into his servitude of Supreme Leader Snoke (Andy Serkis) – who summoned his dark pupil for the completion of his training after Rey nearly took him down at the end of The Force Awakens.

Whether Kylo Ren is less “juvenile” because of that training is yet to be seen, but there are clues that he’s moving in a clearer direction (or more mature, from a dark lord’s point-of-view, anyway) in the second trailer for The Last Jedi. He at least appears intent on killing his mother in a brief clip, and looks to hold sway over Rey in another. Fans will find out for sure how much Kylo Ren has grown up, for better or for worse, when The Last Jedi hits theaters in December.

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Source: GQ (UK)

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