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Star Wars 9 Theory: Snoke Was A Force Projection Created By Kylo Ren

What Snoke's "Death" Would Really Mean

If Snoke really was a projection from Kylo Ren, then his death in The Last Jedi would feel quite different. As it currently stands, it’s a student turning against his master (as the Sith are known to do, even though Snoke and Kylo Ren aren't Sith). It was, in at least part of his mind, a chance for Kylo Ren and Rey to be together. That still holds true, but with even bigger implications if this was Kylo Ren destroying the projection.

The Reddit theory suggests that the link between Kylo Ren and Rey was created by Kylo-as-Snoke because he became obsessed with her. He then killed Snoke to move on from him, and to his new obsession. That idea fits with how much Kylo has been perceived as a petulant child figure.

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It would also mean that this wasn’t an act that arose out of being conflicted. Kylo Ren isn't torn between the light and dark; by killing off this part of his subconscious, he’s saying that he doesn’t need to rely on false projections anymore. That existed to give him the strength to turn to the dark side. He's now fully consumed by it, after having killed his father in The Force Awakens and his false master in The Last Jedi - and then turning on his former master once again. The conflict within him has long defined Kylo Ren; killing Snoke releases him of that.

What Snoke As A Force Projection Would Mean For Star Wars 9

Kylo Ren faces down his former mentor on Crait in Star Wars The Last Jedi

Heading into Star Wars: Episode IX, a huge question mark lies over Kylo Ren’s fate. Is he going to die as Kylo Ren? Or can he be redeemed as Ben Solo? If this theory holds true, then it gives Star Wars fans a better indication of his state of mind, and whether or not there’s any hope of him being brought back to the light.

Snoke being a Force projection of Kylo Ren's would, on a basic level, make Kylo more powerful than anyone suspected. This is the kind of power displayed by Jedi Master Luke (in his prime). Kylo using it, even without fully realizing what he's doing, would perhaps be even more impressive. It’d also fit with the rumors of Snoke returning in Star Wars: Episode IX. It’d be a huge stretch for him to come back from the dead - it's unclear if he'll show up as a Force ghost - but if he was a projection created by Kylo, then he could absolutely appear again.

Kylo Ren's hope for being redeemed would also be removed. That hope was there because Ben Solo didn't want to succumb to the dark side, but Snoke seduced him. That excuse vanishes if this theory holds true. Snoke didn’t turn Ben; Ben turned Ben. In killing Snoke, he’s doing what even Vader couldn't do, at least not right away. With this, Kylo Ren becomes the true villain of the Star Wars sequel trilogy - and that might just mean he has to die in Star Wars: Episode IX. Abrams’ movie is ending the Skywalker Saga, which suggests that something major needs to happen with Kylo Ren. A straight redemption would too closely mirror Return of the Jedi. This is both a more fascinating and, ultimately, rather tragic conclusion for Kylo Ren.

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Key Release Dates
  • Star Wars 9 / Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019) release date: Dec 20, 2019
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