Is Zack Snyder Directing ‘Justice League’?

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Zack Snyder Directing Justice League Is Zack Snyder Directing Justice League?

The Internet response to the most recent Man of Steel trailer has been pretty glowing, and that’s on top of the fact that early reactions to the film itself were quite positive. If MoS turns out to be a huge success, it would only make sense for Warner Bros. to hire director Zack Snyder to make another DC superhero movie – be it Man of Steel 2 or the much ballyhooed Justice League movie.

Well, according to director Ruben Fleischer (ZombielandGangster Squad), Warner Bros. is going to be doing just that.

Screen Crush recently asked Fleischer – who’s promoting Gangster Squad‘s release on DVD and Blu-ray – if the rumors of him being on the shortlist to direct Justice League were true.

After indicating that he wasn’t in the running, he explained why:

“[T]hat’s something that Zack Snyder is going to wind up doing.”

Well, it’s not much, but it’s interesting nonetheless.

Now, there’s a couple things to keep in mind here: First, Fleischer and Snyder are, according to Screen Crush, good friends. Second, Fleischer worked with Will Beall – who (in)famously wrote a “terrible” (according to sources) draft for JL - on Gangster Squad. So it stands to reason that Fleischer is in a position to know whether or not Zack Snyder will be directing the long-awaited superhero team-up.

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On the other hand, Fleischer did not say that Zack Snyder is currently signed on to direct Justice League. In fact, he seems to have very deliberately said “Zack Snyder is going to wind up” directing the film instead.

What does this mean, then? Either:

  1. Fleischer knows that, if Man of Steel does well, Warner Bros. will ask Snyder to direct Justice League. Because Zack Snyder told him so.
  2. Fleischer presumes that, if Man of Steel does well, Warner Bros. will ask Snyder to direct Justice League. Because it just makes fiscal sense.

Let’s face it, it doesn’t exactly take Nostradamus – or an insider, for that matter – to come to the conclusion that Snyder probably has a future making superhero movies for Warner Bros. if he wants it … unless Man of Steel turns into another Superman Returns or (gulp) Green Lantern. It certainly makes more sense that Snyder would direct Justice League than, say, David S. Goyer, whose directoral work (Blade Trinity in particular) has left a lot to be desired.

The question is – do we want Zack Snyder to direct Justice League? That’s not a slight against his work, some of which I’ve liked (300) and some of which I haven’t (Sucker Punch), it’s just a question about diversity of ideas. Might it be beneficial for the DC movie universe to have different directors take on the various superhero properties at Warner Bros.’ disposal?

Then again, it’s pretty obvious at this point that Warner Bros. is more than a little bit confused about what to do with its (potentially) billion dollar superteam franchise. Perhaps if Man of Steel is as good as the company’s hoping, Zack Snyder, David Goyer, and Christopher Nolan would be the safest bet for replicating that success with Justice League.

We’ll probably have to wait until after Man of Steel‘s release date to find out where Warner Bros. is taking Justice League.

What do you think, Screen Ranters? Are you interested in seeing Zack Snyder take the JLA reins if Man of Steel is successful? Drop us a line in the comments.

Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel hits theaters June 14th, 2013. Justice League – last we heard, anyway – is expected to be released summer 2015.

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  1. Watchmen was stellar and it didn’t even get a mention. The visual style and story telling in 300 and Watchmen is what makes me think MoS will be the best superhero movie yet.

    • Personally, I’m not a fan. I think it’s an admirable effort and occasionally very visually awesome, but I don’t think it really “got” the book.

      • I respectfully disagree, i think is one of the best superhero movies i ever seen. I think it is Snyder best movie.

        • I think Watchmen kinda captures what Snyder does best – he absolutely nails the visuals of any movie, but he really sticks to the script too. Whatever strengths there were in Watchmen, it was because of the story it came from, not so much from Snyder himself – but the look, the casting, the visual aesthetic, was all something that he clearly knows how to do. And the same would go for a Justice League movie – I think if you give the man a great script, he can make something awesome out of it.

          • Nailing the visuals is important (because it’s a movie, of course) but it’s that damn screenplay…”If it’s not on the page, it’s not on the stage.” With a motion picture, “the show” is on the floor”.

            All the FX/CGI/SFX (et al.) in the world could not rescue GREEN LANTERN from its poverty of ideas, ill-conceived screenplay, and ultimate fate at the box office where people spend limited deposable income to buy theater tickets.

            Moviegoers are not largely comic-book fans; they want to care about emotionally about those superheroes that make up the league when stuff happens. And given the nature and diversity of the characters that make up the Justice League, this is an awfully tall order for the scriptwriter(s).

            • It’s not just the script, though. Tonally, Snyder’s Watchmen was way, way off.

              • Please explain how the film was tonally off. Are you speaking of the film itself or how it was adapted?

                • Wait, aren’t those the same things?

                  Unless you’re differentiating between good adaptations and good movies? Usually I would think that was fair, but not when the movie was clearly trying so hard to be faithful to the book.

                  It was bombastic when it should’ve been somber. The fight scenes were over-the-top to the point of stupid when they should’ve been realistic and brutal. The use of music, except at the very, very beginning, was woefully misplaced. (Hallelujah in the sex scene? No. Made it laughable, and not in a good way.) The over-indulgent slow motion, the over-the-top superhero antics…all of it was antithetical to Watchmen as a whole (which, in many was, was a “what if superheroes were real?” story).

                  There’s not a whole lot I thought it got right, aside from some of the visuals, though even they would’ve been better without the sloooooow motion.

    • Watchmen was a terrible movie, both as an adaptation and just as a film. It had some good visuals, but they do not make up for the failings by a long shot; and it is fitting that it was both a financial and a critical failure.

      • I could not agree more. I just hope Snyder doesn’t give Man Of Steel the Watchmen treatment. I’d be very disappointed.

  2. Warner Bros wouldn’t need to be dependent on a single writer or director for every comic book movie project IF THE STUDIO EXECUTIVES HAD THE SLIGHTEST KNOWLEDGE OF THE COMICS AND INTEREST IN GETTING THEM ADAPTED.

    The only way we’ll ever have a coherent vision for a DC Cinemaverse and 3-4 DC adaptations coming out every year is if Warner Bros creates a separate DC Films division with someone knowledgeable like Kevin Fiege at the helm.

    But they won’t do that, because while Warner Bros execs like Thomas Tull, Jeff Robinov and Jon Peters are UTTERLY CLUELESS about how to adapt DC Comics, they are equally reluctant to let someone else have the success and credit.

    • We don’t know if Snyder is directing JL, is all speculation at this point, he is not going to direct every DC movie anyway, so i don’t see the problem, personally if Man of Steel is a great movie, then he would be a good candidate for the job.

      • Every headline about a Justice League film ends with a question mark.
        Nobody really knows anything except at the most secret point. They learn a little more when someone is given chance. (re: an opportunity to fail)

    • Totally agree. They need to give DC the creative freedom that Marvel has and not bog it down with executive bickering. They could get a whole slew of directors behind them. Who wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to direct these films? DC does not seem to have the interest of the fans at heart right now. That being said, I am psyched for MoS. I think it will be a huge success.

      • DC is not the problem (at least, not even remotely close to the degree of the parent company, Warner Brothers. THAT is the clueless entity in all of this.

        • Sigh…I should have closed the parentheses. WB, at the moment, is not particularly worried about the DCU because they’re making other films…which strikes me as odd considering how VERY much they seem to be driven by money.

          • And on the other side Disney seems to greatly value the contributions of Marvel and Lucasfilm despite all the other films they’re making on their own.

            • Mm, apples/oranges. Marvel and Lucasfilm were already movie-making companies prior to their purchase at the hands of Disney. Not so with DC/Warner Bros.

              • Lucasfilm is one thing, but Marvel was a small studio running on a loan that depended on Fox for distribution and had exactly two movies under its belt, one a success(Iron Man) and the other a dissapointment(Incredible Hulk). It was the future moneymaking potential of Marvel properties that spurred Disney to buy it out. The same potential that Warner Bros are excessively indifferent to in DC’s case.

                • My one and only point was that DC had never made movies before Warner Bros. purchased it as a subsidiary. Marvel had. Lucasfilm had.

                  • And my answer was that Disney didn’t buy Marvel for its movie slate(Which at that point was questionable with 1 success and 1 failure). It bought Marvel for its properties and the money-making potential within. And it then allowed Marvel to retain an independent movie-making ability and even invested in expanding the same.

                    Exactly the opposite of how Warner Bros has treated DC. Even if DC tried to float their own studio their Warner bosses would instantly veto it as they have a condition for exclusive rights to most DC properties(Even if they’re not doing anything with them).

                    • First of all, it wasn’t just “1 success and 1 failure.” It was one (surprisingly) huge success and one wash. They bought Marvel solely because of that huge success on the assumption that they could replicate it.

                      Had Marvel never produced that successful movie, do you really think they would’ve purchased them for 4 billion dollars and been like, “Okay, Marvel, now that we’ve bought you, go out and make us some movies (even though you’ve never done that before and we have no reason to trust you to do so)!”

                      No, Disney knew Marvel could do it because they’d done it once already. End of story.

                      And again, DC has such an entity – it’s called DC Entertainment. It encompasses everything from editorial to the movies.

                    • I don’t want to argue this till Kingdom Come, so let’s just agree to disagree.

                      I maintain that the prime reason Disney bought Marvel is to gain access to its large universe and the many potential film franchises within. Same with Lucasfilm. The fact that they had their own studio was merely a bonus.

                      Disney simply waited for Iron Man’s success to see proof that relatively unknown comic book properties could also be successful as films(In contrast to Superman, Batman, Spider-man, the X-men and the Fantastic Four, all of which were known in pop culture and had past media exposure via cartoons). Similarly Warner Bros which waited till Iron Man’s success to fully invest in Green Lantern.

                      And you are horribly mistaken. DC Entertainment isn’t a studio of any sort. It’s role is simply to coordinate with various Warner divisions on DC adaptations. Go right back to the press release and it says just that. And so far they’ve largely failed at it, seeing the vast library of untapped DC properites and the number of proposed and dropped film and TV adaptations.

                    • And we’ve lost sight of my original point, which is to illustrate how much more Disney values the moneymaking potential of its various distinct properties instead of going ‘They’re all disposable, we’re making enough movies anyway’ that Warner Execs seem to have.

                      DC comics properties are for the most part in a separate category from what Warner Bros usually makes and should be treated as such. They need a dedicated approach, and regular filmmakers who look at comic books as low-brow kid-stuff and only want the job as an excuse to develop their own personal idea of a superhero movie(Like JJ Abrams’ Superman: Flyby and Jack Black’s Green Lantern pitch) and slap a DC brand name on it won’t cut it.

            • You’re suprised a company wants to make money?

        • Eh…DC editorial has been having its share of problems recently, too. Okaying creative directions, only to change their minds at the last minute and mandate totally different ideas to writers/artists. Firing Gail Simone by email from Batgirl, only to rehire her when the entire Internet was in an uproar. Hiring Andy Diggle for Action Comics, only for him to leave after the first issue. Same goes for Joshua Hale Fialkov on Green Lantern.

          And the most recent major screw-ups came AFTER Dan Didio personally apologized to creatives at a retreat for how editorial had messed things up.

          I want DC to be hitting homeruns as much as the next comic book fan, but problems, they’ve had plenty.

          • Oh, DC Editorial’s had problems ever since Paul Levitz was ousted as President and DiDiot and his cronies grabbed hold of the reins. But they have practically nothing to do with the movie adaptations of DC properties(Or lack thereof). In the WB hierarchy comic book people occupy the lowest rung. They have no say over the movies beyond offering advice; if the powers that be in charge of a movie listen to them(like Snyder) that’s one thing, but if they don’t(Jon Peters, JJ Abrams, Tim Burton, Bryan Singer and all the other clueless clowns that were handled the Superman franchise) then God help us.

            So the next time any of you go ‘DC really sucks at movies’ remember a few basic facts: It’s WARNER BROS and not DC itself that you should be pointing fingers at.

            • Well, I wasn’t saying DC editorial had anything to do with these movies, I was saying it probably wouldn’t make a difference (in terms of quality) if they did.

              I think Didio’s made a lot of mistakes. I also think, prior to The New 52, he made a few great choices (bringing Grant Morrison over) and he happened to preside over some great work (Sinestro Corps War). But The New 52, overall (imo), is a new level of rushed work and confusion.

              Also, this is actually a movie made by DC Entertainment, not “just” Warner Bros. http://screenrant.com/warner-bros-creates-dc-entertainment-inc-diane-nelson-kofi-25096/
              They’re more connected to DC Comics than you realize. P.P.S. Geoff Johns did have SOME involvement with Green Lantern, though I think it’s unclear how much.

              • Again, it’s nothing like Marvel where the powers-that-be are all deeply involved in comics and where comic writers actively participate in creative meetings for movie adaptations. Geoff’s role was limited to providing advice; he didn’t write the story or script. For DC movies it’s always been the director(and in some cases the producer) that actually chose what to portray on screen. Sometimes the director was someone who knew the comics and wanted to be faithful to them and the result turned out great(Richard Donner, Christopher Nolan, even Tim Burton to some extent with Batman).

                Other times the director was someone who didn’t care about the comics and just wanted to present his own crap on screen with a DC superhero trademark on screen and the result was disastrous(Richard Lester, Schumacher, Singer, not to mention all the crap JJ Abrams and Jon Peters tried to pull with Superman).

                Ultimately, DC needs a system where the Executive Producer and/or director of a movie is familiar with and cares about the source material, and where DC guys are kept in the loop and asked for advice and approval.

                • “Again, it’s nothing like Marvel where the powers-that-be are all deeply involved in comics and where comic writers actively participate in creative meetings for movie adaptations. Geoff’s role was limited to providing advice; he didn’t write the story or script.”

                  Sorry, but where’s the evidence that the creatives at Marvel have done more than just provide “advice”? They don’t write the screenplays. They don’t produce. They’re all incredibly busy doing their own thing.

                  And they “participate in meetings” about the film?

                  Yeah, I think that’s called consulting, which is another way of saying “giving advice.”

                  • Marvel is involved in Marvel Studios films almost to a fault. They do indeed guide scripts and give ideas for where the films go. They let the film makers do their thing but are also in there with their fingers. It’s had good results but I can imagine how it would be hard to work with for a director or writer.

                    • Here is what Brian Michael Bendis has said about his involvement with these movies:

                      “They’ve asked me to be part of the team of guys who pick their brains and take their advice. And for me it’s great to watch these writers deal with it and handle it. Watching them is a lot of fun.”

                      He literally said that his role is giving advice.

                    • that is correct. great job!

                    • Hey, you’re the one who responded to me, seemingly taking issue with what I said about Marvel creatives merely having consulting/advising roles and not having any actual power/sway or serious input with regard to the movies, which I only said in response to someone else saying that Geoff Johns had but an advisory role for Green Lantern unlike all those Marvel creatives who had serious input! (<–paraphrasing)

                      If you agreed with me that Marvel creatives only provide Marvel Studios with, and I quote, “advice,” then why did you say, and I quote: “Marvel is involved in Marvel Studios films almost to a fault”?

              • Marvel staff do far more than just answering questions. They also guide the creative direction of the Marvel universe and how everything ties into the current ‘phase’. If anything, screenwriters and directors have to work within the constraints Marvel producers set in consultation with comic creators and editors, and not the other way round. For example, having Thanos set up as the villain for both Avengers 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy is driven by such a process, not by Joss Whedon or any screenwriter.

                That somewhat limits creative freedom for the filmmakers, but ensures a well-planned, consistent vision. This is why filmakers like Jon Favreau and Kenneth Branagh have left Marvel projects after one or two movies in the series.

                Suffice to say, someone like Christoper Nolan would never be happy working within the Marvel system because far from complete creative freedom, he and his screenwriters would have to work with edicts and guidelines issued by Marvel creative staff.

                • Of course “Marvel staff” does far more than just answer questions. That includes everyone who works at Marvel Studios. I’m talking about whether or not Marvel creatives – people like Bendis and Fraction – have any serious input besides “advice” with regard to these films. I haven’t seen any evidence that they do.

                  As for Thanos, sorry, but you’re just plain wrong. That was all Joss Whedon.

                  Slashfilm interviewed Kevin Feige back when Avengers was released and asked him about it:

                  Thanos at the end. At what point did you know that you wanted to do that? Who shot that? How was that put together?

                  Kevin Feige: Joss. Joss, Joss, and Joss.

                  It was his idea?

                  Kevin Feige: Yeah.

                  • Fiege wanted to put Thanos in Avengers 2, but where do you think the decision to link him with Loki and Guardians of the Galaxy came?

                    And there are a number of articles about the restrictions and conditions imposed by Marvel on the storylines that are being depicted by directors and what characters or plots need to be included. They take a pretty active role in what gets approved for production.

                    For example Jon Favreau wanted the Mandarin for Iron Man 1, it was Marvel that convinced him to save him for the third film. And both Favreau and Shane Black wanted to depict the Demon in the Bottle storyline but were vetoed because Marvel wanted the movies to be more family friendly.

                    It’s not like the situation at Warner Bros where crap that completely strays from the canon(Like Singer’s Superman being a deadbeat dad and stalker, all the changes Jon Peters, Tim Burton and JJ Abrams wanted, Arrenofsky and Miller’s idea for Batman Year One, the Catwoman movie, Jack Black’s idea for a comedic Green Lantern etc) can get approved with DC unable to do anything to veto it.

    • Everybody just needs to chill out with the JL talk, seriously. DC has made ONE movie to set up that Universe, and nobody has even seen it yet. If it is worthy, then we still need 3 to 4 more tentpole superhero franchises established by DC/WB before anyone should even be thinking about a JL movie. We are talking atleast 3 to 4 years MINIMUM for JL, and if WB tries to rush it and cash in on Avengers success, it’s going to be horrible.

      • If Warner Bros. had a DC Films division (which we can only imagine) there would be time for several franchises…and 3-4 years to establish same. Even then, the start up cost would be well-north of a billion dollars.

        Everything now (foreseeably) is money…and timing; and time, perforce, is not on their side. Not only Marvel but every major and minor studio in Hollywood (for that matter, the film industry at-large) will be busy cashing in on “the superhero market” (mostly graphic novels) to a fare-thee-well, and to a point of diminishing return.

        In the real world, we live in a competitive marketplace; and when a fickle audience, by their ticket-purchasing, decides if that market will spiral or spike, it’s a place that can be horribly unforgiving.

    • The studio executives did yield to Christopher Nolan in the formulation of the reconstituted cinematic Batman, once Nolan made his (remarkable) pitch to Warner Bros. Now…if Nolan pitched overseeing “DC Films” — given his billion-dollar track record — the WB might listen and even comply. Anyone short of Nolan (possibly Spielberg), it seems doubtful.

  3. Let him make that Star Wars movie instead!

  4. If Man of Steel succeeds, then why not? Where’s the harm involved? He has more than enough support if he feels at any point overwhelmed. I’m okay with this.

  5. If Snyder direct and supes and flash in a movie. Then I going to watch it in theater. Even if it is bad movie but if it is great then I going to enjoy it so many time in theater.

    • A “bad movie” would have to be defined as one earning more than $500Million. Short of that, the studio couldn’t care less what you feel about it.

      Keep in mind, profits made on the first IRON MAN showed up in the stock reports; naturally, the same with BATMAN. It’s fiscally impossible for these corporations to spend multi-millions of dollars on a single venture without accounting to their stakeholders one way or the other. At the end of the day, it’s always and exclusively a matter of what these people feel.

      Just trying to keep it real.

  6. Why not?

  7. Tired of all justice league movie news, i want a wonder woman first done right, without that movie im not going to bother with news about justice league.

    • I’m with you on this whole Wonder Woman thing. I’ve been in Diana Prince’s camp longer than any other DC superhero (next to Green Lantern, but now since that ship has sailed….); and for one was willing to go with the Joss Whedon script –not even knowing what it was– just to get the Princess up on the screen and begin the franchise.

      Two things are going against her running ahead of a Justice League movie: Her obvious and necessary sexuality; and, without it, she’s not “Wonder Woman”.

      My criteria for Warner Bros. (and whoever their creative) is simply this: If you can’t handle a flesh-baring, sexy woman in a revealing one-piece bathing suit with a tiara, how in the hell are you going to manage a man who runs fast, a guy who breathes underwater, and another with a serious-ass skin condition.

      (NOTE TO SCREENRANT EDITOR: Use of the word “ass” in this context does not require moderation on your part…and this is definitely NOT SPAM.)

      • The Flash could easily be adapted into a movie, and IMO, would be an excellent hero that could fit in the “grounded in reality tone” similar to TDK and MOS. I don’t think it’s WB who’s totally against Wonder Woman beating ass in a bikini, I think it’s the PC backlash they’d receive because of it.

      • Note to Frederick Louis Richardson – the editors don’t moderate the comments. We do have someone moderate the comments, but in this case, the auto-filter probably filtered your comment out…well, automatically.

  8. I hope Snyder does Justice league.

    I would love him to be involved in Star Trek once Abrams passes the torch.

  9. For JL we required a director who able to justified every character in a team movie . Snyder prove himself by watchman. Making action scene in JL is much difficult then action of avengers . Specially due to GL and Flash.
    Zack Snyder is my first choice for such action

    • “Making action scene in JL is much difficult then action of avengers”

      Really? and you base this on??? How difficult is it to show a red blur? GL Special effects have been done already.

      Im joking at the simplicity but what does the special effects between JL and Avengers have to do with anything?

      Are you saying Josh Weedon could not handle the JL?

      By the time the JL apparently gets done special effects would have improved.

      • “Making action scenes in JL is much different than action in Avengers”

        @ Akont It took me a minute to wrap my head around that statement and I think what he means is this: it would be a lot different because the JL members DWARF the Avengers when it comes to powers. Take that Chitari invasion from Avengers: Superman and Martian Manhunter ALONE could have handled that. Or just Supes and Latern. Or just Batman. LOL. J/k on that last one but I promise you that DC writers could have found a way for Batman to handle that entire situation all on his own with something on his utility belt.

        If that’s what Grewal means by the action sequences are different, then I’m going to have to stand behind him and say he’s absolutely right. JL and the Avengers are two very, VERY different teams when it comes to “powers” where the Avengers can’t hold a candle to the League in that department.

        Reason no.4387 why Justice League will be damn tricky to pull off.

        • Yes but it is the writing and character handling that will handle that not the special effects. I only say this because he specifically brought up the Flash and GL.

          If we are to believe what is going down with Supes he is not as powerful as we know him to be or he was in the books.

          As for power levels I would pit Thor and Hulk against anyone in the JL but that is a tete a tete for another discussion and the Avengers final fight was not just a beat the snot out of the aliens.

          However I think the JL would have handled it similar to The Avengers. Batman playing field General, Flash and Wonder Woman regulated to civilian safety, Superman taking the brunt of the forces, GL and Martian Manhunter closing the portal/dealing with Loki and handling of the nuke.

          Sorry there is no difference except in the way the story is written.

          • @ aknot

            As Dr Mindbender say Both Avenger and JL is very different.
            Yes. If Avenger is best of Josh weedon then I think He can’t able to handle JL.

            Flash is not just red blur. Using his ability in live movie is real challenge. I think u know nothing about GL.

            Putting Flash alone on silver screen is much difficult then avengers.

            I don’t mean Avenger is bad movie. It is good movie. But it is easy to think what avenger’s character able to do.

            Showing JL’s character ability on silver Screen required good story telling and newer and creative action making.

            • @ Aknot C’mon dude, there is a huge difference between the JL and the Avengers, not just the writing. Namely, the Avengers only have two “ubers” in the form of Thor and Hulk. The JL has the task of properly displaying five “ubers” in Supes, Manhunter, Diana, Lantern, and Flash.

              You can’t simply sub in JL in place of the Avengers in the final action scene of Avengers because it makes no sense. You wouldn’t need Flash and Diana as ground force helping civilians because if you have Supes, Manhunter, and Lantern nothing is going to get further than 30 feet out of the portal. You don’t need Batman being the play caller either in that situation, because there wouldn’t be any plays to call.

              • Not touching the DC vs Marvel character debate, We would be here until we were old and grey with no clear winner. If you think otherwise you dont know the history and characters as well as you think you do.

                We are not talking about fanboi desires we are referring to a movie that will need to appeal to all masses.

                For your thought process why have the JL at all just use Supes he can handle it all.

                • @ Aknot It’s not about a Marvel vs DC character debate. It’s the simple fact that it is 1 million times harder to do the League as opposed to the Avengers because of the tactical/practical situations that arise on account of the JL having so many “gods.” The point that you bring up about Superman only helps solidify my point.

                  • If I had a nickel for every time some internet guy said a hypocritical thing about DC comics characters I’d be a billionaire by now.

                    No offence to you, but think about what you’re saying here. In the comics, both Thor and Iron Man have been given abilities and feats that put them on or above Superman’s level. They’re both actually toned down for the movie. Comic book Thor could simply annhilate the entire Chitauri invasion with a Godblast from his hammer.

                    Likewise the powers of the Justice League can also be toned down so as to make a scenario like an alien invasion work. And for the DCU we’ve had invasions from aliens that are capable of fighting toe-to-toe with the likes of Superman, like the White Martians, Daxamites and the Parademons of Apokolips.

                    The main difference with Avengers would be that most of the team would be engaging in Iron Man and Thor Level heavy hitting with Batman and Flash on crowd control duties.

                    • Our point, professor… is you have to try much harder to deliver a satisfactory JL product than you do the Avengers… and it needs to be much more creative than an “alien invasion” which is starting extremely redundant.

                  • My Dear Dr.

                    Thor (in the books) is a God. Superman is no god nor is he god like.

                    The closest main stream god being in the JL is Wonder Woman. (yes I know there are a few others but popularity wise it is her) In the great scheme of things she does not hold a candle to Thor.

                    Simply put neither is ‘better’ than the other nor more powerful. It just depends on the way they are written.

                    The debate has been fought many of times. Superman vs Magic, Thor losing handle of his hammer, Captain America enhanced strength and fighting skills, Batman and his almost flawless tactical mind. The Hulks limitless strength….but only fueled by anger. The debate will rage on.

                    No one will win. Each side is better then the other.

                    • That’s not what this is about. This is about how it will be harder for the Justice League Movie than it was for the Avengers Movie to create a believable action sequence because of all of the “ubers” that you have to account for in Justice League. Period.

                    • Dr Mindbender,

                      As I just said, assuming the Justice League movie only features the ‘Big 6′, the ubers can be limited to two or three.

                      -Wonder Woman can have her flight and super speed removed(Like in her early incarnations) and be a sword-wielding warrior that fights at ground level like Black Widow in Avengers.

                      -The Flash can have his speed limited to JLU levels and emphasise the fact that he has speed but not strength and durability, leaving him more suitable for scouting or crowd control duties

                      -Batman, of course, needs no change beyond emphasizing his team coordinator / strategist role

                      -That leaves only Superman, the Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern as ‘heavy hitters’ in the sense of Thor and Iron Man

                    • I dont see it as such. Again it relies on how they are going to handle the character(s).

                      Case in point Superman when John Byrne took over made him less uber than he was.

                      Your ‘uber’ use is only if they are written that way.

                      Thor is uber. Yet in the MMU he is less than what he is in the books.

                      Nolans Batman is less uber then the comic Batman.

                      How do you create ‘believable’ action sequences in a comic book movie?

                      What makes it harder just because you say they are more uber?

                      Grewal (I think) was just speaking to the effects in creating the scenes. You are just (appears) lauding how more uber DC characters are over Marvels.

          • @ aknot

            I got it . U know nothing about JL.

            • Grewal you know nothing about me. What would you like to discuss about the JL? Which JL? How bout the JLA? JLI? JLU? Cartoons? The TV pilot?

              I have probably been around a little longer then you and have read a few more books then you. Just a guess though.

              If you read my comment to you a little slower you may have saw I wrote “Im joking at the simplicity” meaning I understand it takes better effects then a red blur.

              However it does not take much in the special effects department to handle a speedster or GL. Where is the difficulty? GL? Well his effects have been on film already. How would you expand on that and show something that has not been seen????

              You make the Josh/Avengers crack and say it is not a bad movie yet I believe in other threads you do say it is bad.

              What is the “NEW” and “CREATIVE” way the JL needs to be done?

              • I never say avenger is bad movie. Yes, I say it is not great movie. For me avenger is enjoyable movie.

                I don’t see any interesting creation in green lantern movie. What he made by his ring springs , machine guns , jet engines or fighter planes? GL required so much creativity.and that speedster is much more interesting then u think.

                Yes. I don’t read so many comic or watch animated JL. But I know all character very well. And they are so much different from Avenger character.

                If u think there are not any difference b/w both side. Then read some more comics maybe someday u figureout it. Good luck for it.

                • I apologies I thought you did not like The Avengers movie from a previous post. I may be incorrect.

                  Ok you point out the supposed bad but do not address. What is it you want to see Green Lantern do that is so special? In a team movie?

                  That speedster is not that interesting powerwise (IMO) the character (at least West) is interesting though. Specially some of the story lines. Oh wait you may not be familiar with that.

                  You tell me to read a few more books yet you dont read very many?

                  Maybe you should read a book instead of relying on a small portion in time that you heard/read/watched a small segment of a hero you may or may not know anything about.

    • I concur; the degree of difficulty awaiting whoever writes and directs Justice League will be formidable. One solution: make Green Lantern the villain, since his powers equate closest to that mightiest of the JL members — Superman.

      DARKSEID has the capacity, faculty, and aptitude to turn Hal Jordan toward “the dark side”. So, here’s the pitch: The League is disbanding. But once Jordan is compromised by using the power of the ring to bring hell on earth, the League pulls together not only to stop the maelstrom brought on by Green Lantern, but also to rescue Hal Jordan’s life-force firmly in the satanic grip of Darkseid…or something like that.

      To make this story line work as a screenplay then as a film, like I said and as you pointed out, has a degree of difficulty given the nature and character of the superheroes involved.

  10. > Are you interested in seeing Zack Snyder take the JLA reins if Man of
    > Steel is successful?

    I can’t really answer this question until after MOS is released. Even if it was successful, I might not want him to direct JLA, even if the studio might.

    Zack is hit and miss with me. I found 300 and Watchmen to be good. Sucker Punch is his albatross.

    • @ Chetc

      I want to watch a JL movie direct by Zack Snyder. Even if MOS fail.
      Yes. I hate sucker punch because it have terrible script.
      He is good story teller. And action maker. He prove it by his movies.
      I trust him , if he get good script he make great JL.

    • Choosing a director should be based on both the hits and misses, and pairing the artist with the material in hand. Martin Campbell failed critically and artistically with Green Lantern, but succeeded with Casino Royale, but could succeed mightily with Justice League — or not.

      The director is the point man; the man everyone points to, if a movie is a hit or a miss…or to a woman, if that be the case.

      Maybe the most dangerous sport in Hollywood is thinking outside the box: Antoine Fuqua as possible director / William Monahan as director

      New blood, fresh perspective (re: Shane Black director of IRON MAN 3)

      • I meant William Monahan as writer, not director. On the other hand, my Freudian slip could be on to something.

  11. Pleeeease.

  12. Yay, some actual good news concerning this movie.

  13. As long as we get a good Superman movie in the deal, I don’t care if Michael Bay directs Justice League. I’ll just ignore it.

  14. I just want Justice League to be made and be made well. As long as it’s good, I don’t care who directs.

  15. DC should treat their main characters kinda like the Bond franchise. Churn them out every couple of years as stand alones or with a continuing story line. Some will flop but some will be hits, and the consumer wins in the long run. I hate waiting a decade to see Supes or Bats on the screen again. I also want to see Flash, Martian Manhunter, Hawkman, Arrow, and the Atom on the big screen.

    • You read my mind. Exactly how DC comic heroes should be managed.

  16. This should be outstanding news and also kind of no brainer. Zack is the man when it comes to the bringing comic books to life on the screen. All of his work is testament to that, he doesn’t have one movie that isn’t visually arousing (that includes Dawn of the Dead BTW, not many remember that masterpiece is his). Sure, Guardians is for kids and Sucker Punch was silly… but the effects sure as hell weren’t lacking in either of those movies.
    When it comes to comic book adaptations, I will ALWAYS trust the man who made Watchmen a reality. It’s not his fault that it didn’t explode, the only real way to appreciate Watchmen is to be familiar with the source material.

    I just hope Latino Review doesn’t get “insider’s scoop” credit for this, which they will claim they “knew” all along. Making logical guesses and assumptions and then throwing them at a wall to see what sticks is not an “inside scoop.”

  17. As long as it ain’t Brett ratner or Joel Schumacher.

  18. “300″ and “Watchmen” are the only things I need to convince myself Zack Snyder can really pull off Justice League. It’s a no-brainer IMO

  19. Zach Snyder would do a great Flash movie but I should be the one directing the justice league movie :)

  20. Argh, I just want a Justice League movie so bad!!! The Avengers are great and all, but JL is what I grew up with. I think I would definitely be ok with Snyder.

  21. I don’t necessarily think Goyer should direct a JL movie, but I thought Blade: Trinity was great so what do I know?

  22. To quote Nick ” I think if you give the man a great script, he can make something awesome out of it.”

  23. But I’m sure they’ll choose the right director

  24. Why are we even talking about a JL movie? MoS hasn’t even hit theaters yet, and if anyone thinks DC is going to be able to throw together a JL movie after making ONE stand alone movie for Superman, they are nuts. In order to pull off JL, DC/Warner will have to abide by the standard that Marvel has set. That means you need an acceptable Green Lantern movie happening in the same Universe as MoS, you need to re-boot Batman, SUCCESSFULLY. Nolan’s Batman does not fit in the Universe required for a JL movie, not to mention getting Bale back in the bat suit is not going to happen. They will also need a Flash or Wonderwoman tentpole before anyone even thinks about a JL movie being made. IF they do it right, MAYBE we will see a JL movie by 2017.

    • This seems always worth repeating:

      The majority of popcorn-eaters who plunk down the money for a ticket at the wicket is not going to give two cents about Superman and Batman not occupying the same universe. The average ticket-buyer does not need a reboot or a sequel; give them a Justice League flick with Dark Knight and Man of Steel occupying space together, the movie will be a blockbuster and the studio will be making money hand-over-fist. Throw in Wonder Woman, The Flash (and Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, Hawkman, The Atom, you name it) and the Warner Bros. coffers will not be able to hold the amount of cash JL will be hauling into the studio.

      Put this team up against The Avengers, as things now stand, the Justice League will blow them away. This analysis is offered with considerable prejudice.

  25. If Man of Steel is an epic, intimate, successful Super-Hero blockbuster film that many – due to the last trailer and some good early positive buzz- then I do not see why they would not consider Snyder for such position. In that respect I do not see why they would not try hard to keep the Snyder, Nolan Bros, and Goyer team as a foundation for their DC Cinematic Universe. It would just make sense to do so.

    I remember there was initial rumors that the Avenger’s was going to be directed by Jon Favreau. After directing Iron Man which set up the world- or at least a perspective of it- and launched the whole thing, it made perfect to at least consider it. He ended up being producer of the Avengers.

    I would not be surprised if successful that Snyder would at least be approached to produce the Justice League film. For that matter I would not be surprised if WB goes to the core group to form a team ( call it a League) to work together on DC films. Ideally I would have Nolan in a producer/ consulting role, Snyder would definitely be consultant on action and effects, and producer role at the very least, Goyer will be main story idea writer (filtered by other writers), adding Geoff Johns, Bruce Timm, Paul Dini, and others.

    All speculation at this point but it makes the most sense.

    • I believe your closer to right than wrong. Snyder and Nolan will be more interested in pursuing other opportunities outside the DC family of superheroes (as Nolan has demonstrated in between and since the Batman trilogy). Goyer is more an opportunist who would relish a greater role in the world of Warner Bros. comic-to-film operation. Nonetheless, all could be functionaries (executive producer, story editor, etc.) for a satellite enterprise such as DC Films.

      And with this kind of personnel, MAN OF STEEL could even be merely a moderate success; still, the WB would have to convince their stockholders that the eventual yield from a DC affiliate will make a significant (re: positive) difference on the balance sheet.

      The James Bond franchise always makes money. Anything short of making money for the Warner Bros. corporation is not going to survive…long-term…thus the need for those functionaries.

  26. That reads more like a guess/his personal opinion than a straight-up confirmation that Snyder will direct.

    If MoS does well, I wouldn’t mind seeing Snyder direct Justice League though. His visual style is awesome – it’s just his story telling that gets a little messy sometimes (especially the stuff he writes himself *coughSuckerPunch*cough).

    With a good script and experienced producers backing him up (maybe Nolan, but hopefully Paul Dini & Bruce Timm), I think it would work very well.

    • totally agree, someone else needs to handle the writing.

      If at all possilbe try to recreate the MOS situation in which the story was already pitched and approved. They already had solid overseerers in place then go offer it to Snyder to direct.

      but if this becomes a rush job in which they are going to back in to a date and the script will be written as they go that can get ugly.

    • Justice League, by its very nature, cannot work without the strongest collaboration of artists and technicians, and without the bravest studio executives imaginable. Does this take JL out of the Warner Bros. bailiwick? The studio controls the property, so keep a good thought.

      • I have no idea what a “bailiwick” is, but I will say this: even though I’m not a fan of WB’s recent decisions involving DC, they were responsible for some of my favorite movies, including the very ambitious, ‘Inception’ and ‘The Dark Knight’.
        They can take risks, and they do take risks, but in this case it’ll take more than that to get JL off the ground. As you said, they need the best of the best, and imo, almost just as important, they need a good plan of action going forward (their whole “one step at a time” strategy isn’t paying off at all)

  27. I think Justice League needs someone with a bit more experience than Snyder but Warner Bros seem to be desperate at this point so I wouldn’t be surprised if they offer somebody like him the chance to direct it.

  28. Give him a stellar writer and I m in. The man is a pretty picture maker. That’s it. Dawn of the dead, 300 and watchmen showed it: the guy took classics with several layers of reading and he didn’t add any original thinking/comment of his own. His work is flat for anyone who saw/read the originals.

    • Christopher Nolan is a writer as well as director and it shows in every film he has directed (even when he’s not given the writing credit). A writer is ALWAYS writing as if addicted.

      There are two options that haven’t been mentioned in connection with Justice League: the film having co-directors (like THE MATRIX) or the property being farmed out to another (independent) studio with a dozen financing partners.

      Whatever might make this movie happen.

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