5 Things We Learned From ‘X-Men: First Class’

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When we posted our preview for the 2011 Superhero Movie Showdown, we said that X-Men: First Class was going to be the biggest wildcard of the summer 2011 Movie Season.

The movie had a lot of issues from the get go – a rushed production schedule, a loose interpretation of X-Men lore, no headlining stars, confusion over its continuity – but it also had the promise of  a great director (Matthew Vaughn), some great leading actors (James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender) and the return of X-Men movie guru Bryan Singer to the franchise he started back in 2000.

Now that X-Men: First Class has debuted in theaters to critical acclaim but a lukewarm first-week box office, it seems that all the uproar and debate that erupted in comment threads all over the Internet for years now will end without any clear “winner” being decided. The angry fanboys who claimed the film would be a stillborn bastard weren’t correct in their assessment – and neither were the unabashedly optimistic believers who said the film would be the best X-Men and/or comic book movie ever. As always, the truth ended  up somewhere in the middle…

So, it is that even-keeled middle ground we will stand on as we explore “The 5 Things We Learned from X-Men: First Class.

Before we begin, be sure to read our official X-Men: First Class review to know where we stand in regard to the film.

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5. You Can’t Rush a Movie to Greatness

As much as I enjoyed First Class, one thing that irked me while watching it (and will likely irk me forever) was seeing all the points where “the seams” of the film showed through. By “seams,” I mean all the places where there clearly wasn’t time or attention given to touch up a shot, or polish some hokey dialogue; time to sit back and look at the script and decide which themes and aspects of the story were working most effectively (Xavier / Magneto), and which ones needed to be toned down or outright cut from the story (the auxiliary mutants who served little purpose).

If you really watch First Class closely, the lack of revision and refinement slowly becomes more and more apparent. There was definitely a great film in there, somewhere – but unfortunately I don’t believe Matthew Vaughn had adequate time to reach it, despite the praises of some fans and critics.

'First Class' director Matthew Vaughn and co-writer Jane Goldman

Green Lantern and Captain America are two more comic book movies that are racing to meet strict deadlines, and both of them have had longer production schedules than First Class‘s ridiculously short 10-month production schedule. When you have a film that requires a large ensemble cast, shooting locations all over the world, a complicated multi-storyline script, and plenty of effects-heavy action sequences, there needs to be ample time to fit all the many pieces together into a cohesive, polished, final product.From what we’ve heard, Matthew Vaughn’s experience making First Class included everything from on-the-fly script rewrites and reshoots, to eleventh-hour races to get all the effects in place for opening day.

Having been in the writing game for a decade now, I can tell: you can indeed produce something good in a rushed fashion, if the deadline demands it and you have the focus; however, something great absolutely requires time for a creator to be able to step back, assess his/her work, and decide what improvements should be made. Revision is the key to brilliance. You take away that time from any creative artist, and the art is ultimately going to be diminished. First Class was no exception.

Like I said, watching this movie in the future is really going to irk me: there’s nothing worse than looking at what is, while constantly imagining what could’ve been. Just ask my ex-girlfriend about that one ;-).

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  1. Hmm. I am wondering why 50 million is considered a bad turnover? I don’t think that that much money makes for a “Lukewarm” reception.

    As a rabid X-men fan, I found it to be far superior to the other films. The lack of known stars made it a much better ensemble.

    • i agree with you Marie. The film is getting good reviews for a reason, its good. It’s one of the best x-men films in line with x-men 1 and 2.
      I also agree with you on the casting. but Screenrant, I’d hardly call McAvoy, Fassbender, or Bacon, unknown. First Class had a better plot, better acting, and better dialogue then Thor did.

      • Good reveiws don’t mean crap to me. It only shows those people liked the movie, and I don’t let anyone decide if I like a movie except me.

        • You have to see it first. Kind of the point of the article. Than you can decide if its a good movie.

          • Yes, but saying the movie is “good” b/c the reviews are means absoulutely nothing. It goes back to that arguement about RT having any credibility (which it doesn’t IMO).

      • The wording I believe I used was “solid stars and rising stars.”

        That was in direct reference to Bacon (solid) and McAvoy, Fassbender and Jen Lawrence (all rising).

        None of those people are major box office draws in their own right at the moment.

        Nowhere did I say “unknowns.”

        We try to be careful about our wording around here :-)

    • Considering what past titles have grossed domestically and compared with other CBMs recently released (Thor made 78 mil comparatively) it wasn’t the most stellar result.

      The “believers” might take comfort in the fact that world wide it supposedly grossed a total of 120 mil (this is including the domestic figures). It will no doubt make its budget back.

    • It’s worth pointing out that Batman Begins only made $48.7M its first weekend. Present day value puts that at around $60m. It went on to make $372,710,015.

      http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batmanbegins.htm

      • Thanks for the numbers. I’ve used Batman Begins to compare too, but what was the competition for Batman Begins? This summer is really crowded and the economic news isn’t great. I do think this movie will have a longer life than most superhero movies.

        • Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes anyone?

      • Batman Begins is a terrible example. Considering it opened on a wensday which took the steam out of it’s weekend opening.

        Yes it made 48m mil opening weekend and yes converted to todays inflation that is 60 mil (which is still more than First class made opening weekend)

        That is a pointless comparison because it opened two days prior to the weekend.

        We can take a look at 5 day comparison though if you like

        In it’s 5th day XFC has made roughly 66 Mil

        In it’s 5th day Batman Begins made roughly 72 Mil. Adjusted for inflation it’s roughly 84 Mil.

        So again batman begins not a good comparison.

        • Actually it is. I was comparing opening weekends to show you cant judge how a good a movie is by opening weekend numbers. Your right, there a lot of figures and facts to consider.

  2. To be honest I really couldn’t fault First Class. Even though it was rushed I couldn’t really see any evidence of it. If it showed i thought it would have looked like the dodgy effects in Wolverine. But no, looked fine to me. Acting, directing, feel, effects, tone = great.

    I didn’t have a problem with the writing either. Now I’m not a writer myself, but writers don’t have dibs on what’s good and what’s not. They just like to tell people they do. lol ^-^

  3. Spot on Article.

  4. This is better then Green Lantern by far.

    • Hey Adam,

      Wow, you’ve already seen Green Lantern?

      Vic

      • u should have telepathic writers like adam in screenrant…

    • *sarcasm* Yea, because you already saw GL am I right? >_>

    • how the hell u know that, u seen the movie already

    • Maybe he’s from the future, guys….

  5. Vaughn > Singer

  6. Just let Vaughn make X-men 4

    • hey x men first class was great hope Vaughn is gonna make the next 1

      • Yea I know, but im curious of what he could do with the normal X-men team.

  7. The film was great, maybe not to whiny comic book fans, but the film stands on itself as a great film. The action, acting, and plot line was all great. I enjoyed it, I loved the first two X-Men, and hated the last two, and X-Men first Class was definitely up there with X-men 1 and 2.

    • Indeed it was William Bill.

    • Mind not being so insulting there Bill?

  8. u missed this one out lol.

    what i have learn about X-men First Class is if you the only Black Male aka Darwin who has a interesting power. you going to get killed right away. plus when Shaw talking about been “Enslaved” just wait for the camera to focus on the only black guy in the room.

    • dude. its Darwin. he. can’t. die. he didn’t even show any sign of pain when he “died.” the screen just lit up. and the whole “enslavement” thing was just to show how manipulative Shaw was and could be.

      Darwin will definitely be in a later installment. my guess is that he moved into Havok like he did in the comics (but to Havok’s brother, Vulcan).

      • u only saying that cause its the comics. when it comes to none comic book fans the general public sees a typical black character dies first in the movie. everyone in the cinema laughed cause they see the typical Hollywood standard with black characters.

        if the writers, director and producer was smart they should of had a end credit scene where Darwin slowly coming back as pure energy but they didnt. so yes Darwin falls under the token black who has a interesting power dies first.

        • “token black?” maybe. what about Angel? first to die? not at all. Magneto’s mother was the first. i’ll count the slew of CIA agents(50+) and the Man in Black as second. Darwin was third.

          i dont understand why this is such a big deal. random throwaway character “dies.” is the problem his lack of screen time?

          • the ones who dies was not mutants. also u talking about random throwaway characters how comes Riptide never died he did not say one word. the truth is the only black mutants who is a male died first.

            also yeah Angel has a subtext of a upset black woman who cant easily back stab her friends.

            • so Darwin wasn’t supposed to “die” because he was the only male black mutant? so the murder of Magneto’s Jewish mother in front of her child doesn’t bother you because she was human, but the “death” of an immortal black character does?

              …”a subtext of a upset black woman who cant easily back stab her friends.”

              i don’t understand your stance on Angel. Mystique, Beast, Banshee, Darwin, and Angel were all acquaintances at this point. Angel was swayed over by Shaw’s “mutant superiority” pitch. she chose a side.

              • his not immortal in the movie jeez stop thinking about the comic book. by the general public his the token black guy who died first. if u dont understand go and listen to the slashfilm podcast they mention the Darwin situation.

                • i guess its a difference in people. i give audiences more credit to think and listen to the movie and not the opinion of a movie blog.

                  maybe i am referring to the comic, but Darwin says himself that he can adapt to anything. what was it that Darwin whispered to Alex before he “died?” seems to me that he knew what he was in for with Shaw and “sacrificed” himself. they showed no body. he showed no sign of strain.

                  if you dont understand, maybe you should go and watch the film again. general audiences are smarter than most people give credit, but they can be dumbed down. this continuous “oh, they killed the black guy first again” is contagious ignorance. i advise you not to spread it.

    • The focus on Darwin when they mentioned slavery seems out of place in 2011. I believe they were trying to capture some of the 1960′s attitude. Women, black people, and in this case mutants, held a lower status and the status quo was generally accepted by everyone as the way it was. If you watch older movies people often bring up slavery in association with black characters. Not that there wasn’t any pushback, but it was a different time. I’m not quite that old but I can see a lot of things have changed, particularly in how race is handled in movies and Television. It used to seem like the only time there was a black character was so that the topic could be addressed, and the history of slavery came up in one way or another.

      • In a similar vein I really liked the way they had Charles treat Raven. He wasn’t outright mean but there was the strong undertone that there was a natural superiority, or that it’s okay to be a mutant, but that it’s proper to not let it show.

        Another person I talked to didn’t like that, but I thought it made him move complex and interesting, and gives him room for growth. I think it takes some guts to let your characters have faults.

  9. Agreed. Great article Mr. Outlaw.

    I’m a fanboy who can except change. GL, Cap, and Thor just don’t interest me because I feel like I know these stories. First Class may not have been the expected route but it was definitely fresh and exciting. I say greenlight both XMFC2 and X4. It would be interesting to see where Singer and Co. take us.

  10. Thank you for writing this insightful article. I agree with everything you said

    I am in the group of people who didn’t go, seeing as the price of the ticket is the only vote I have. I won’t apologize to those who loved the film for not supporting it. I never wanted this film in the first place, and that’s a perfectly valid reason not to go. This franchise was in dire need of a clean slate. A prequel was the last thing it needed.

    I just hope the studio doesn’t automatically assume that the reason for the low returns is because Hugh and Halle weren’t there. It seems to me that a lot of the fans just weren’t happy with this.

    • Boo hoo. Not every one is going to like it. I feel its not even a prequel. none of it really has any continuity with the others. Also the other movies all including 1 and 2 I felt SUCKED. casted old ass people as the xmen is just stupid. Rogue was retarded. Jean looked like she was knocking on her 40′s, Cyclops was a giant stiff, halley berry as storm? Just stupid. Ian for Magneto was the only good thing I felt a little to old though with the exception of Hugh Jackman And the guy who plays professor X, that whole franchise sucked. I practically fell asleep in the first one. 3 and Origins sucked. Xmen first class was fresh, and had more of the Xmen vibe for me. choosing unknown young actors definitely gave the young mutants vibe. Fassbender, and Macavoy were the highlights of this film.

    • Agreed. And I suppose I am one of Bills “whiny comic book fans”.

      • Whoops. My comment was in agreement with Liam. Dont know how that happened.

    • As much as I want this to succeed, I have nothing against anyone who chooses not see it in theaters. Prices are high and it’ll be out on DVD in months. Frankly a lot of movies are more enjoyable that way, although there have been a lot of movies where I hit myself for not seeing it on the big screen. Can’t say for sure this is one, but I think a lot of people are going to like it when they see it.

  11. like this article a lot, represents a lot of good points. I am the stubborn fanboy – I have voted with my wallet, I will continue to do it.

    Do I think this property would be better in the hands of Disney/Marvel? No, but maybe just maybe they wouldn’t crap all over it for the sake of franchise.

    The best point in this article, Franchise for the sake of franchise, we’ll call it a prequel and a reboot to satisfy everyone, we want you to associate this with anything you like but not anything you don’t…

    So much like a prostitute – What’s your name? — What do you want it to be?

    • Yes spot on. I agree… they never said what the film was. Fox has had this problem before – not being able to decide what their films are going to be exactly. They experienced this problem with X3, when during production they couldn’t decide on what the plot should be after Singer left and we ended up with … well you know how that goes.

      For my part, personally… I never forgave them after screwing up Dark Phoenix. There are some things you do… and there are some things you just don’t ever, ever do. Crapping all over the Dark Phoenix Saga is one of those things.

    • Are you calling the film a prostitute or those who went and saw it?

    • Yes spot on. I agree… they never said what the film was. Fox has had this problem before – not being able to decide what their films are going to be exactly. They experienced this problem with X3, when during production they couldn’t decide on what the plot should be after Singer left and we ended up with … well you know how that goes.

      • Matthew Vaughn: “My main goal was to make as good a film that could stand on its own two feet regardless of all the other films. However I thought anything that worked in all the other movies, and I could have some fun with nodding towards, I would. But my main rule was, You know what, were trying to reboot and start a whole new X-Men franchise and therefore, making a film work on its own two feet was far more important than trying to be referential to the prior movies.”

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1270798/faq

        • Did you post this as a good example of what I meant?

          • No, more to show the movie could always be seen a stand alone project which recognises and references past efforts. There is no longer any need to complain about continuity issues and you are now free to enjoy an excellent movie.

  12. I’m a HUGE x-men fan and I loved this movie. I couldn’t find to much fault with it. Then again, I’m a girl. Most of the boy fans I know are whining about the emotional aspects in this movie but I liked them. They made the characters more real. First class did a really good job with characterization which I thought the other x-men movies sucked at. They just wanted to whore wolverine out. I don’t see the big deal with continuity, there are so many x-men worlds out there with their own story lines. This movie stood alone on its own which was awesome. Good script and direction. I have no idea what people are complaining about. I thought it was the best out of the now five movies.

    • Whatever it’s flaws, they got the heart of the movie right, which was Magneto/Charles/Raven. Maybe it’s because I’m older but a movie needs that, and looking back on the movies that made an impact and have stuck with me over the years, they had some kind of emotional core. On the other hand, Thor had a lot of goofy stuff too, but in that case it brought the movie down IMO. Whether his transition to humility or the romance worked is a matter of debate among those who liked or disliked it. Problem was, with Thor, those things kept popping up and couldn’t be ignored. With X-men, a slight misstep (like beast running super-fast), would come and go and the movie itself just trucked along. The mistakes were more like occasional stutters in an otherwise great speech.

  13. Those that say they won’t see it simply because it doesn’t follow the actual X-Men origins in the comics (and I know a few of them personally) are really missing out on a great movie. Lots of great points made here

  14. “Revision is the key to brilliance.”

    Brilliant article Kofi!! I agreed with everything you wrote (first tme for everything ;) )and you did it very eloquently and succinctly. Thank you!!

    I was very impressed by this movie and will see it again before it leaves theaters..Now I have to go Watch Emerald Knights..just bought the Blu-Ray.. :)

  15. I don’t think it has this 5 bad element in the movie as far as I watched it.To be honest for such little time it was given for the movie to be develope,X-men:First Class manage to give a lot of amazing and outstanding result.
    It does’t has to be required a top star to headline the film,from the past X-men film bringing actor such as Hugh Jackman as Wolverine was a bad choice of actor,in the comic Wolverine is more of a gritty personality individual, Jackman just don’t seem to be able to carried those credibility that has already been add to the Wolverine itself and don’t get me start with Helle Berry as Storm.
    I could say Matthew Vaughn is the right man for this franchise.

  16. As always you take the stance that people who are upset are some crazy extreme radical group.

    You act as if we are all completely against any change what so ever. The truth is most of us have not problem with SOME changes. However, we feel a line has to be drawn some where. You can change some thing, but do you need to change every thing? When a film can arguably be the most changed film from the source material I think it’s safe to say it crosses the line.

    Also as bad as X3 was I don’t think it or Wolverine hurt the box office of First Class very much at all. Regardless of wheater XFC was good or not the advertisement and marketing were terrible. Most can at least agree on that. The posters were some of the worst film posters of the last decade and the trailers were very unimpressive. Most of the people who admit to liking this film now were still doubting the film from the trailers.

  17. the problem with a lot of these comic book movies is trying to tell a huge story in one film. the friendship of charles and erik should have lasted years not 2 weeks. oh, well even with all the timeline and continuity problems it was a good film. i enjoyed it a lot more than i thought i would.
    the cameo in the middle was awesome.
    i am just wondering if they watched the other 3 movies before making this one?

    • you can’t tell a 12 book comic arch in 90 minutes. that was my problem with the black spider man suit and venom.

  18. love the line about the ex-girlfriend hehehe very nice article kofi (didn’t expect any less from you) ;)

    i couldn’t stop thinking about the bioshock movie whilst reading this article, i suppose alot of what you said could definitely apply to that movie/game/franchise.

    i’ll prob end up using my free ticket on this movie (first class) b/c everyone’s been saying its not as bad as it is/was made out to be. or i could just save it for something more worthwhile like transformers 3 :D

  19. I honestly liked this x-men movie the best out of all of them. This one was fun to me and I loved the Cold War/swinging 60′s setting. McAvoy and Fassbender were fantastic I thought. My only complaints were January Jones seemed a little stiff, even for a diamond lady :)

  20. “Something great absolutely require time”

    Now I agree and disagree with that statement for a couple of reasons. First, that depends on you artistic medium, some of the greatest music, poems, freestyles ect. have been made in the moment. Acting is as good as the moment as well, you can have a “great” script and someone can make a piece of dialog look hokey or hammy.

    I think you need to balance the two, there’s only so many times one could step back at their canvas and repaint the picture, and that doesnt mean it will turn out great either. Eventually you just have to accept it and move on.

    Vaughn is a up and coming director who has a lot to learn. Remember films like ‘Aliens’ wasn’t even done being edited until two or so days before release, and it wowed audiences.

  21. Honestly, what kept me from getting interested was the last two stinkers. X3 was garbage, and don’t even get me started on XOW.Plus, there ware soo many continuity issues that it’s hard to believe that they payed attention to the franchise.

  22. I dont not know why so many people are bitching (about the past x man films an this one) It was a great film NEW up coming stars who did a great job and had a vibe to it that the other x-man movies did not have. Basically you can pick apart any movie if you try .. but you can not go against the results the movie is turning heads and changing people minds

  23. Halle sucked at Storm, I was glad she wasn’t there. I loved seeing the new setup. I hope that it is used as a new start to the whole franchise. Hugh WAS in the film (for about 5 seconds) and it was a funny scene. It’s really too bad that the fanboys choose to turn their nose up at this film. It was really nicely done and the history that it covers is actually better than what was in the comics. I love how in the end that Eric’s hatred turns him into the thing he hated most.

  24. I haven’t seen this yet but looking back at the other xmen films it seems that its impossible for this one to not be as good if not better than the others. Imo x2 was the best of them but it had its flaws. In fact, looking back there are parts of x2 that just straight up bug the crap out of my mind. Like xavier undoubtedly killing millions with cerebro (maybe billions?), and cyclops being unable to kill anyone (or do anything at all) despite having the ability to blow holes through buildings. Then wolverine going down from getting shot by a non ademantium bullet. My point is that all the xmen films have major flaws (lots of continuity ones too), and first class definitely does as well, but I’m willing to bet that it was still fun to watch and interesting. So why hate?

  25. I disagree with a few things mostly pertaining to (2) in the above article and also want to mention something about the Magneto and Professor X relationship that seems to have been forgotten.

    What was “smart” in Sam Raimi’s handling of Spider-Man’s organic web-shooters was that it was quickly skimmed over and not expanded on, especially when you realize that a more realistic take on THAT modification would have been Spider-Man swinging around NYC by the seat of his pants – literally!
    P.S. I still don’t think it would have mattered much even if they had stuck to the original invention of web-shooters. Peter was an established science junkie and genius. And he was scarred enough to have become Spider-Man without even considering patenting that invention.

    Yes, Batman Begins did incorporate some very clever changes to Batman’s origin… but then DC always reboots their characters’ origins anyway. Despite the reboots, it was easy enough to believe that part of Bruce Wayne’s training to become Batman would have included being an understudy of the League of Assassins – DC Comics’ most elite ninja force.

    In both cases, I don’t consider either to be a significant change from the source material, like I do X-Men First Class.

    And finally, on to the subject of X-Men: First Class. The article mentioned Magneto and Professor X’s relationship as one of the best changes from the comics – as though they never met each other in the comics. As though they never knew each other in the comics. As though they never worked together in the comics. As though Magneto never hunted Nazis in the comics. As though Professor X and Magneto never had disagreements of philosophy. Well, you get my point.

    Yeah. A HUGE change.

    That’s about the only thing about the movie that I’ve heard worked. And I have no problem with that. Even if there were story additions, Magneto and Prof X’s earlier relationship in the comics have never really been so thoroughly covered that I would have been with it every step of the way as long as it seemed like it really would have been what Magneto and Professor X did.

    It was the rest of the movie I had a problem with.

    Havok, Cyclops’ younger brother, as a preceding member of the X-Men? So much for Cyclops being the first X-Men.
    Mystique, a member of the X-Men? Never, never, never ever in the comics. I’ve heard the actress did a good job but the story had nothing to do with her.
    Azazel (from one of the most infamous, worst arcs in X-Men history) … I don’t know what his role is in the movie, but that was surely a fantastic idea to include him to appeal to the general X-Men fan. I wonder if Chuck Austen got a mention in the ending credits? Ugh.

    If they’re going to reboot the franchise, it would have just been as well done with the original X-Men or even with more than the original five. Beast, ok. Banshee would have been fine. How about Thunderbird? It’s fine with me if they invent characters to add to the class, to be on Magneto’s side of things, just keep the original X-Men somewhere in there. I don’t mind story upgrades as long as it doesn’t interfere with the story everybody knows.

    But the exclusion of the original members were just annoying. It’s only done this way because they were too scared to go for a TRUE reboot – because they didn’t want the movie to counteract what’s transpired in the previous three X-films and Wolverine. That just reeks of stupidity to me, not to mention a little cowardice. After all, there was no need for X-Men’s First Class to have happened precisely in 1963. They did it that way for the hell of it. No need for that. Iron Man’s origin was upgraded from Vietnam to Afghanistan and I had no problem with that. Nobody did. Time advances are done in comics ALL the time, but the main meat of the story never changes. Iron Man was always taken captive, and he always made a suit of armor right there to make his escape. So set the X-Men’s origins in the 70′s, or even the 80′s, and it would have been late enough to make the current members’ age work just fine.

    I did think the Hellfire Club was clever and I don’t mind them being part of the past rather than the present – they do seem somewhat a relic of the past. I would not have had a problem with that.

    But the main irritation was the complexion of the original X-Men class… it was never Professor X and Magneto.

    That’s all I had to say.

    • I was reading your post closely til I got to the line “That I’ve HEARD worked.”

      No offense, but at this point I’m more interested in what people who’ve seen the movie have to say, positive or negative.

      As stated in the post, I know why people held out against seeing the film :-)

      • Just simply pointing out that it wasn’t any kind of change from the comic books, what you said about Magneto and Professor X, and it somewhat irked me that you said it was.

        I shouldn’t have gone about it in such a long rant though.

        • Phil,

          Unless you’ve seen the movie, I don’t know how you can say WHAT it was. Not saying you’re wrong, but I just don’t see how you can talk with certainty about what you haven’t seen…

          • Nice. Feels like you’re just saying, “oh you haven’t seen the movie, so what do you know?”

            No, I haven’t seen the movie, but I did read the comics. And that’s part of what you’re talking about here. Should I trust that you’ve read all the source material in the last half-century? By your logic, should I similarly dismiss your whole article because I don’t trust that you have?

            Quoting you:

            “2. Altering The Source Material Can Be A Good Thing”

            “First Class presented the Xavier/Magneto relationship in a way that (in my opinion) vastly improved on all the comic mythos of the last half-century – while still preserving the core essence of the respective characters and their themes.”

            “X-Men: First Class is a perfect example. For all the movie’s flaws, one point of consensus is that the relationship between Charles Xavier (James McAvoy) and Erik Lensherr (Michael Fassbender) is the most spectacular aspect of not just this film, but of any comic book movie to date. And (gasp!) most of the pivotal relationship depicted in First Class was original material created for the film…not a retelling of the comic books.”

            By the sounds of it, you are using this argument to justify the source material being changed… except that it hasn’t really been in that respect… if the strongest point of the movie, as you say, was Professor X’s relationship with Magneto, that was there in the comics too, and was implied at in many, many comics, with plenty of flashbacks to show it.

            I don’t mind little details being changed. The main thing is Professor X and Magneto have always had a relationship. That’s not a fundamental difference like you’re trying to say it is…

            But I didn’t see the movie, so what do I know? Not giving them my money either, until it comes out on Netflix.

            So I’ll withhold any more arguments and posts until then, since I guess it’s required to have seen the movie for me to have a say.

  26. As a movie it stands on its own and does all it needs to and more. That should be enough. It boggles the mind the reasons that some people cling to which prevents them from seeing a movie they would ultimately enjoy. Its a sad day when a movie of this quality goes unnoticed. I hope they make a sequel anyway. This is too good a story to just go quietly into the night.

    • Maybe when they make a Batman movie where Jason Todd was the original Batman, Dick Grayson was his Robin, Tim Drake followed up as being the second Batman, and Bruce Wayne was the third Batman, you guys will love the quality of the movie so much that you’ll get a sequel to THAT.

      Put Matthew Vaughn and Bryan Singer at the helm and maybe it will happen.

      • Was that a positive or negative comment? Frankly I dont care. If a film maker did do that, all I would care about is the film. How good the finished product was.This movie succeds as a movie. And in my opionion as a X-Men film as well.

        • I was trying to make a point by being sarcastic. It’s pretty clear we’re speaking from two VERY different perspectives here. I just hope you never get the chance to adapt anything into a movie.

          Adaptations… Hah! Who cares anymore about respecting the source material? As long as it makes a good movie.

          • Judging from the way you express yourself, your no one is right but me attitude I’d say if I was given the chance I’d do a lot better than you would. Heard about DC rebooting there whole franchise? How about the Ultimate line of comics? Smallville running for 10 seasons? People can do marvelous things when they stray. Go see the movie than at least you’ll have a valid opinion on this topic.

  27. See the friggin movie, it’s less than 10 bucks &…..IT’S REALLY GOOD!! Enjoy the fact that it’s a well told, good story with plenty of action & some cool style. It also boasts some of the best serious acting I’ve seen in an action/comic book movie…ever.

    This movie was a real treat in & of itself. Just relax & enjoy it.

  28. Well, I liked the movie, it was awesome, love the cast and specially the young professor x and magneto. The problem with the movie was that commoners wanted to see hugh jackman in the movie, you know like they dont care about the comic, but i would say that Matthew Vaughn did a great job. I really loved the movie and i want to see more, but next time i want to see ROGUE in it, but not like in the first movies like a weak girl that didn’t do anything (Anna Paquin was awful, i love her but not like rogue.). I want to see ROGUE sucking abilities from others and kicking asses. why not. or flying and strong. that would be awesome. ROGUE is my favorite xmen character and and I want to see her as the importance character she is.

  29. Saw over the weekend. Never quite got off the ground. Needed a couple of long sustained battle scenes and generally more action. The scene where the youngsters where giving each other nicknames ruined it for me. The bar is so high for Marvel movies now and this one is well below the mark.

    • That’s was the problem with Singer’s first 2 X-films and Superman Returns. The man knows how to make great characters on screen but can’t move them into a full action movie that these should be. As much as X3 drove me crazy from its flaws it was still a fun movie to watch, unlike X1.

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