Both Marvel Studios and Twentieth Century Fox are filming (and are about to film) the next installments for the next phases in each of their respective Marvel cinematic universes. While speculation and questions still surround the idea of characters from the X-Men trilogy sharing the screen with the cast of X-Men: First Class in X-Men: Days of Future past, there’s potential, however slight, for an even a larger crossover with an even larger roster of Marvel superheroes.
If The Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy and all the new character to be introduced in Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe weren’t enough, how about Fox’s X-Men?
Crave Online chatted with X-Men franchise producer Lauren Shuler Donner and husband Richard Donner where the success of The Avengers was brought up, along with the question about the potential of a cinematic crossover to which Lauren responded:
“I would love it. I would love it. I personally have close ties to Marvel because of Kevin Feige, because Kevin worked for me. But to take our characters and mingle them in the way that they were written, yeah, absolutely.”
Joss Whedon wrote 25 issues of the Critically acclaimed relaunch of Astonishing X-Men. He’d love it. Fox’s new Marvel consultant Mark Millar wrote Marvel Civil War, Ultimate X-Men and The Ultimates (Ultimate version of The Avengers), so he’d dig it too.
Money talks and since The Avengers is now the biggest comic book film of all-time, why wouldn’t the other studios with Marvel properties try to take advantage of that brand appeal, at least for marketing purposes. In the comic books, all of these Marvel heroes share the same space, fight together and against each other, and for the films, the only thing holding similar events back is the fact that the licenses to different characters are spread among multiple studios (that and money).
Donner has been name-dropping X-Men 4 & 5 along with New Mutants as properties she had in early development for years and it wasn’t until recently with the confirmation of X-Men: Days of Future Past did we see this ambition manifest itself into an actual greenlighted project with a release date, thanks in large part due to Bryan Singer’s return to the franchise. Could Donner’s “close ties” with Kevin Feige be something she’s taking advantage of or is this just excitement and a faint glimmer of hope, much like the exec producer Avi Arad saying Spider-Man in The Avengers 2 is possible?
After all, Sony was almost able to get a reference to The Amazing Spider-Man inserted in The Avengers by Marvel Studios including the Oscorp tower along with the Stark Tower in the New York skyline but the timing of post-production visual effects didn’t allow for it. The fact that it almost happened means that Marvel Studios is at least willing to co-market their flagship comic book characters they don’t even own the film rights too.
That being said, Marvel Studios has their own growing roster of characters along with plans in place which will seemingly cover at least the next half-decade. The sad truth is that there is absolutely no chance of a major crossover or team-up outside of Easter Egg references or perhaps even a cameo. Compared to the current franchises run by Fox and Sony, Marvel Studios’ adaptations are the truest to the source material so the desire to merge cinematic universes with a rebooted Spider-Man with slightly different origins or a convoluted X-Men franchise is minimal at best.
If circumstances were different and Marvel Studios owned the rights to all of these characters, it’s too bad they can’t go back in time and have Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine show up with Captain America in World War II and have Andrew Garfield’s Peter Parker taking photos during The Avengers final battle in New York. Technically, Jackman could show up in flashbacks in Captain America: The Winter Soldier - It comes out the same year as X-Men: Days of Future Past, and less than a year after The Wolverine. But a major film crossover like the latest Avengers vs. X-Men crossover event in Marvel Comics isn’t in the cards, as awesome as the idea may be. Although if “Phase Three” of Marvel universe were to explore the Civil War stories from the books, such a large crossover would be required to do it justice. For now, The Avengers have that Thanos problem to deal with for years to come.
The Wolverine hits theaters July 26, 2013. X-Men: Days of Future Past hits theaters on July 18th, 2014.
Iron Man 3 releases May 3, 2013, Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014 and The Avengers 2 on May 1, 2015.
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Everybody needs to stop thinking that there’s even a remote possibility of Marvel EVER getting the rights back to the x-men universe. Post Avengers studios are realising that shared movie universes (when done correctly) have the potential to bring in ridiculous cash. Fox have the rights to a considerable chunk of the Marvel universe between the fantastic four and x-men franchises. It would be poor business to give up the rights for anything less than a few billion dollars (which ain’t gonna happen). Now the idea of fox, Sony and marvel working together to co-market and cross over their movies may be really good business. As marvel enters phase 3 they’ll be running out of top tier characters to adapt (as much as I love the middle tier characters) and may need a bolst in interest that x-men/ff/spider-man will be able to bring to the table. I think avengers vs x-men would be fun. Obviously it’s all dependent on mark millar and the x-men teams ability to build a cohesive joint universe in days of future past… A big task. The mcu marketing strategy was so effective you can’t think the major studios won’t attempt to emulate it even if it’s retroactively ala x-men… I look forward to blade runner/alien, paranormal activity spinning off, robocop/terminator and maybe fast and the furious meets step up 5d sometime soon
Your right everyone does need to stop cause as much as i would like marvel to get their characters back youd have to be an absolute moron to let them go if you were fox or sony. But that being said, everyone needs to stop worrying about getting “current” comic stories on film such as civil war etc. Theyve got sixty years of material to go through and the films are only just getting started. Yes civil war is cool but lets get through origins and characters coming into theyre own and then other epics such as “Infintiy Gauntlet, Coming of Galactus, Six Arm Spiderman Saga” etc. first. Establish a real Marvel Univerese.HOnesty i there is so much great stuff to go through i dont even want a civil war movie. X men are doing it right with DOFP. Its an old story, it happens early enough in theyre “legend” to adapt to film. Cross overs would be great to introduce other mid tier characters such as Quiksilver and Scarlet Witch. They are mutants and Magnetos children also major Avenger players. Hard to do without being able to use the words Mutant and Magneto. Also the Avengers talking about the Master of Magnatism in one of theyre films would send glorious shivers down my spine.
I also agree with this, the movies should forge their own storytelling path. As long as the core of what makes the characters appealing is retained.
Everybody needs to stop thinking that there’s even a remote possibility of Marvel ever getting the rights back to the x-men universe. Post Avengers studios are realising that shared movie universes (when done correctly) have the potential to bring in ridiculous cash. Fox have the rights to a considerable chunk of the Marvel universe between the fantastic four and x-men franchises. It would be poor business to give up the rights for anything less than a few billion dollars (which ain’t gonna happen). Now the idea of fox, Sony and marvel working together to co-market and cross over their movies may be really good business. As marvel enters phase 3 they’ll be running out of top tier characters to adapt (as much as I love the middle tier characters) and may need a bolst in interest that x-men/ff/spider-man will be able to bring to the table. I think avengers vs x-men would be fun. Obviously it’s all dependent on mark millar and the x-men teams ability to build a cohesive joint universe in ‘days of future past’… A big task. The mcu marketing strategy was so effective you can’t think the major studios won’t attempt to emulate it even if it’s retroactively ala x-men… I look forward to blade runner/alien, paranormal activity spinning off, robocop/terminator and maybe fast and the furious meets step up 5d sometime soon
Gargh! iPhone said comment failed to publish about 10 times, sorry for the giant multi-post!
Yeah, and you posted as 2 different people. Is that a cross-over?
Ha, maybe. I’m not very tech savvy.
Please Marvel, don’t do this. MCU is the best thing happening right now and to ally themselves with Faux (Fox) or Sorry (Sony) would be a detriment to the MCU. If Marvel wants to do a Civil War or Infinity Gauntlet with all these characters, do an animated movie WITH GOOD ANIMATION.
The proper term here is, “Don’t fix what isn’t broken.”
Even though I thought TASM and the latest X-men movie was very good, I agree with you.
The MCU has been incredible so far and once they start doing cross overs with other studios (who have a track record for screwing up the characters/source material) then they’re destined for failure.
…luckily it seems like Marvel Studios won’t let this happen anyway. So far it’s mainly been people at Sony or Fox talking about possible cross overs while Marvel/Feige keep saying that they’re more than happy with doing their own thing.
Point is: I don’t think we have anything to worry about. Despite all the talk, it won’t happen.
Beserker 20 hours agoWhat if:
during that scene on the street when Thor and Capt were fighting chitauri, Thor already wounded from Loki and drained of energy and Capt, taking a shot from one of their weapons after getting blown out of a window, Iron Man taking shots from their weapons and Hulk getting blasted on the roof of a buiding, black window and hawkeye engaged in hand to hand combat and pretty much about to get their butts handed to them, all of a sudden a mist formed and no one can see and as the mist clears Storm stands between Iron man and Thor. as she summons lighting directed at both of them recharging Iron man and healing Thor. Cyclops eye beams the hell of of a squadron of Chitauri, Rogue battles one of those flying searpant things, not the wack ass Sookie Stackhouse Rogue, but a bad ass rogues after she acquired the powers of Ms. Marvel. Wolverine helping out capt, black widow and hawkeye by slicing and dicing up a few chittauri. and colussus assisting Hulk in a clobbering session before they end up duking it out in a classic battle of tossing each other around time square. Storm and Thor fly towards the portal and Thor seems intriqued that Storm has the same abilities as him as she displays her vortex and lightning capabilities, thor also engages with his own display of power and between the both of them lighting up everything tht comes through the portal. the X-men eventually saves the avengers butt and disappear the way they came with Xavier in constant communication with nick fury explaining who they are and they can be thanked later. that with a bit of fine tuning would have been an epic way to end an already epic movie.
this will never happen cause fox sucks
To do all this they will have to have Avengers Phase 3, Cosmic Phase 1, Fox Phase 2, and Spider-Man all unite at the end of their phases to form an epic scale trilogy. They can do Secret Wars!
Alright!!!! Well what does Marvel think about this, and why has no reporter asked them yet?would be amazing to see the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man join the Avengers.
Of course Lauren Shuler Donner would love it. Mind that, she’s the one saying. Not seeing Feige or anyone from the Marvel/Disney camp saying that. She knows her franchise needs that infusion of new life. She’s kind of let the whole X-Men get a little out of hand with a lousy X3, a lousy Wolverine movie, a pretty good First Class, and wait-and-see on the Wolverine and the First Class 2/Days of Future Past. Sounds like a little bit of desperation mixed with faint glimmers of hope, etc.
Marvel Knights Studios should do a rated ‘R’ team up movie. They rebooted Punisher and made a Ghost Rider squeal, Daredevil might go back to them (so I’m guess we’ll hear of a reboot soon) and idk if Blade is still under Warner Bros or not. Once Snipes gets out, they unite the four of them and make a rated ‘R’ Marvel Knights movie.
I like that idea, but would you link it with MCU or would it be stand alone?
Thanks! It would deff be a stand alone. It must be ‘R’ for gore and such; not fit for Avengers.
Does not mean it can not be in the same Universe….. What is to stop Peter Parker taking pictures of Blade? Facing down DD questioning his methods? The Avengers denying DD membership? GR and the Hulk butting heads?
Just because the subject matter is rated differently does not mean they cant be contained in the same Universe. I mean look at the world today and you can see R rated stuff happening right around the corner from G rated stuff.
The MCU is big enough to have all of these characters running around and never running into each other. They each have their own agendas so to speak.
@Aknot, The ‘R’ rating will be dedicated more toward the adult audience (mature readers) and not your teenaged kids new to the Marvel world.
The same reasons why it shouldn’t be apart of the same Universe are the same reasons why they formed MAX comics. The adult themes the Marvel Knights generally brought were to powerful for the average Marvel readers so they branched off and became MAX.
Marvel Knights Studio is another studio from Marvel. They made War Zone (movie) and Spirit of Vengeance (movie), these aren’t your Disney themed movies and notice they weren’t apart of these Phases.
Frank Castle’s ethics are on a totally different scale from someone from the Avengers. Any Marvel Knight which had issues under MAX should be kept with their dark tone and adult theme separate from Avengers’ PG-13 rating to do the Marvel Knights justice. If you want to see a good Daredevil reboot, it will have to be rated R.
Example: To make someone like Foolkiller non-graphic for Avengers will be complete injustice. Seeing a guy like Frank Castle stab an alien in the face wouldn’t be as epic as he would stab a human in the face. They would have to tone these guys down so much for Avengers, it wouldn’t be entertaining. I thought War Zone was great because I went in wanting Frank to blow people’s heads off and that’s just what he did. That can’t happen in Avengers. You can’t show a human being getting his face ripped off by a shotgun blast like in War Zone.
The only way they can come close is with Drax the Destroyer. Seeing that he fights aliens all the time, seeing him slice open a new throat hole for some alien is acceptable for the PG-13 rating and this is what Drax does best.
@Guardian Outlaw, the reason that it will never happen the way you want it is because Marvel Studios is owned be Disney… They would never allow such violent acts be associated with their company so Marvel has to stay away from the more adult themes.
@DJB, Smh it sounds like you didn’t read what I said. I was saying that the Marvel Knights shouldn’t be apart of the MCU. Aknot was the one who said they should. I’m saying if they do, then that will do the Knights injustice.
because the MCU is owned by Disney.
However we are referring to characters having the chance to run into each other.
Not actually doing so or doing so in a limited capacity.
There is no reason Frank Castle after dispatching someone cant step on a page from the DB with “SPIDER MAN or MENACE” plastered on the front.
Also you may want to rethink your Disney stance and do a little research. The House of Mouse held some other properties that did a few R rated movies in the past.
Marvel Knights Studio is owned by Disney as well as Marvel Studio. MKS made War Zone and that is rated R. I already know Disney’s stance. You are changing my words around and aiming it toward a different subject. I’m talking about not having a Marvel Knight as a full part of the Avengers team. This idea is separate from a cameo. In regards to your subject change, I’m fine with a cameo too. I’m not fine with one of them being a full pledged member.
No you said it should be stand alone (not in the MMU) based on the rating.
I said that doesnt matter (the rating) as in the books (max) and in real life R rated stuff happens right around the corner from G rated stuff.
You also stated ” I’m saying if they do, then that will do the Knights injustice. because the MCU is owned by Disney.”
It looks like you were following on.
Quite simply it looks like you are saying it would be an injustice to the movies (R rated ones) to have them in the same Universe as The Avengers, correct?
I am saying there is no harm no fould having them in the same Universe.
Now you want them on the Avengers team (first mention of this?)
This is not what we are speaking about. We are speaknig about support and or cross overs. We are not talking about 1 movie with equal parts of both sides (R/PG13).
I mean dont you think a story that started in a Daredevil (R rated) could be picked up into a Spiderman movie (PG-13). Even so without having to watch DD b4 Spiderman?
You could use a Cloak and Dagger storyline about runaways, drugs andother stuff in Daredevil.
The drug itself falls into the hands of a Spiderman character creating a problenm for webhead…..
Fact of the matter is every character in the Marvel Comic Universe and be in the Marvel Movie Universe regardless of the rating.
agree
@Aknot, Yeah, I did say a stand alone. I also said, “Any Marvel Knight which had issues under MAX should be kept with their dark tone and adult theme separate from Avengers’ PG-13 rating to do the Marvel Knights justice.”
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“Example: To make someone like Foolkiller non-graphic for Avengers will be complete injustice. Seeing a guy like Frank Castle stab an alien in the face wouldn’t be as epic as he would stab a human in the face. They would have to tone these guys down so much for Avengers, it wouldn’t be entertaining. I thought War Zone was great because I went in wanting Frank to blow people’s heads off and that’s just what he did. That can’t happen in Avengers. You can’t show a human being getting his face ripped off by a shotgun blast like in War Zone.
The only way they can come close is with Drax the Destroyer. Seeing that he fights aliens all the time, seeing him slice open a new throat hole for some alien is acceptable for the PG-13 rating and this is what Drax does best.”
In regards to the main Marvel Knights, a cameo would be the only acceptable thing with a very brief appearance such as when Wolverine made a cameo in 1st Class. Also, when I said within the same MCU, I mean within the Phases (sharing the same storyline, goal, and/or continuity). If you’re making R rated movies to be along side PG-13 movies, within the same group of Phase movies then that’ll throw the entire audience apart.
Think about it, they make a Hawkeye movie and he teams up with Frank Castle for a good 20min and it’s PG-13. Now next movie that shares the same continuity stars Franks Castle and Foolkiller, the 12 year old who saw Hawkeye now wants to see The Punisher: In the Blood but his parents now won’t let him because of its R rating. Yeah, he can always sneak in, pirate it, etc. but the fact still remains, “The Rating.” Studios give ratings for a reason. It’s to channel a movie toward a specific audience.
A Marvel Knights Cinematic Universe with it’s own Phases and R ratings would be great. Bring on MAX movies, separate form MCU.
Machete is a spinoff of Spy Kids. That worked out just fine.
I remember hearing about Blade not being under Warner’s control anymore. But that Wesley Snipes still owns the majority rights and want’s to do a 4th movie after he gets out of prison.
I could be wrong.
@Wally, Yeah I heard he wants to do a 4th also. If they do a 4th is will deff be under Marvel Knights Studio then if you are right. It’ll be pure epic is this happens.
Anything is better than Blade Trinity, with Ryan Reynolds…. who also plays, deadpool, and green lantern, and does neither well…………. -.-
Ryan Reynolds needs a reboot.
Ok lets talk about this in order….
In order for a cameo or small appearance to happen cross films is no big deal. Period. Just the logistics of who gets paid how much.
In order for a longer stay the same thing would apply. Do you not think large corporations that team up with others dont because of some of the issues people are stating here about the movie studios/property owners? If there is money to be had they will come to an agreement.
Total crossover situation would take a lot more but can still be done. Yet it would be far off and would be beneficial for introducing new characters etc in both franchises.
As for the shared Universes. Please, really.
Spiderman was on the other side of town handling straggler aliens that were terrorizing individual citizens.
Xmen decided (and they have in the past) not to partake in the fight as it was not Mutant related and it seemed the Avengers had it in hand. With Human/Mutant relations just getting leveled out they didnt want to create more of a problem.
There has never been mention of them in each other films which does not mean they dont exist in the same Universe. To answer the “Where was” one only has to look at the long line of stories in the books where some characters for one reason or another were not present.
Ok but where was War Machine? Why have him in IM2 but not in the acengers, he couldve provided alot of fire power. Or was he getting his suit upgraded
He isnt an Avenger yet. Simply put he is still part of the Military and they wont allow him to join…… yet….
But why?
When there’s an alien invasion, and people are ready to fire a nuke at a city, I’d like to think that they’d first send in all other available resources they have (like WAR MACHINE).
Don’t get me wrong, I loved the Avengers (I think every regular reader on this site knows that
), but them not even mentioning – or at least hinting at – the reason for his absence, wasn’t cool.
My answer to the war machine and ALL of these “absences” is that the invasion sequence in Avengers seemed to have happened in real time. Meaning the invasion lasted no more than the 30 minutes we watched it. This can explain why a LOT of heroes did not show up. They could have been in route, but just did not have time to get there.
Oh and hi everyone. Back from vacation.
Welcome back, INK. Now get to work!
very cool, but speaking of heroes. Whos established as of now? The only thing that has not been reebooted is the Xmen and yes they could be busy or enroute or not getting involved. But i would say Spidey has not been in contact with the readioactive spider till after the avenger event. Which then leaves who? DD punisher FF are all scraped leaving the avengers the only team besides the Xmen until supposed reboots which would take place after this event anyways.
Actually the people that fired the nuke didn’t even want the Avengers there what makes you think they would want to contact a super team in Connecticut that is comprised of mutants that are questionable in the eyes of humans or throw someone that is in cohoots with one of the Avengers?
Ink does have a good all around answer though.
Never said anything about the X-men, FF or Spidey (because they’re not part of the continuity anyway – therefore making that whole argument irrelevant
), I’m just talking about War Machine and the military.
If the world security council didn’t want the Avengers there, then I’d think that they’d demand to send in a special military team (possibly lead by War Machine) or something – could have made for a very neat, and logic cameo appearance.
… but yeah, INK’s explanation is good enough for me. I like to believe that maybe WM was on the way, or possibly busy with another mission somewhere or maybe he was assigned to protect the president or UN members (with an alien race invading earth, it would make sense to assign someone to secure and protect important world leaders.)
@The Avenger, lol so it seems I’m not the only one noticing Aknot’s tendency to be irrelevant toward arguments. He should be a politician.
also agree but as for spiderman i would say he didnt aquire his power yet therefore could not be of service.
I believe it will happen, just not for a least 5-7 years. The smartest thing the x-men and Spider-Man teams could do is closely emulate the formula and general acessability that’s made the MCU such a success to date. If their aesthetic marries with marvels vision then an eventual team-up will seem all the more attractive and logistically achievable. Spider-man already fits but the x-men movies have the biggest challenge in retaining what works, fixing their continuity and rebooting simultaneously. I wouldn’t want that job! But if they pull it off it’ll be incredible. My theory is that ‘days of future past’ isn’t going to adhere to the comic story at all beyond it being a time travel adventure that introduces cable and/or bishop to the x-movieverse. The outcome will be the merging of first class and Brian singer timelines to produce a streamlined cast cherry picking the best from both for future instalments. The events of x-men 3 will be wiped from cannon through the time-travel device as will the continuity errors. I espect we’ll be left with james mc avoy, Michael fassbender, james garner, Hugh jackman, Jennifer Lawrence, Anna paquin, whoever the beast in first class was and a recast Halle berry (I have no faith she’d return). The main problem is they can’t fully reboot without recasting wolverine and Hugh’s their Robert Downey Jr. Either way I believe Matthew vaughn and mark millar have a strong enough grasp of storytelling and comic book mechanics to be able to get us from point a to b in a satisfying way, leading the potential for crossovers at some juncture eventually… Just not soon. Went a bit off topic there
Hugh Jackman is getting older. So to keep him in X-Men is a little bit of a cringe, because he’s almost practically immortal. :/
Agreed that they have to recast eventually, but as it stands him and Jennifer Lawrence are the only ‘names’ they can bank on. I’d love to know who you’d cast as wolverine though!
Why bring in cable and Bishop, when they havent brought in Gambit, the real rogue, the X-men that have been established, colussus, they havent even established story lines. There are so many other X-men that they havent bought in that should be in way before Bishop and cable enter the picture. Another X-man failure waiting to happen. Give the freaking rights back, and people mlease stop thinking that Singer is the answer when he is the reason why this franchise has failed and character associations and relationships have been distorted and or destroyed
Amen, couldn’t have said it better myself… even though I’ve tried
They will NEVER give the rights back. They are worth potentially billions of dollars. They are clearly attempting to build the cohesive x-men universe you’re asking for. I agree that it wouldn’t be my choice to bring in cable or bishop before some of the other characters but I don’t see how gambit’s a more important part of x-lore. But surely it would make sense to introduce one of them in a story about time-travel?
lol, you said “billions”.
Not worth that with the crap that Fox puts out. If they really want to do it justice, they need a reboot since their continuity is a mess. But, since I’ve already seen the type of product they put out, I have no faith that Fox can pull it off.
You don’t think the rights to fantastic four and the entire x-men franchise’s worldwide box office, blu ray/DVD/digital releases, box set collections, Netflix, pay per view, television rights aren’t worth billions spread across the varying movies they’re going to make? I pretty sure that’s not a laugh out loud assumption to make?
They would be if Marvel was behind the wheel… it would take fox decades to earn billions off those properties with the crap they release.
Ok i agree with you that singer messed it up, but he also had some good. Hes got good casting chops aside from storm and rouge. xmen 3 was a huge mess but thats where the time travel can fix it which i think is a god send. Rebooting all the time is annoying. As soon as it doesnt work someone reboots, It makes it old, boring and drawn out. Make a better movie with the sequals. Fix the problems that shouldnt of been there in the first place. Yes if it wasnt for Jackman they would of by now but im glad they didnt. I dont think they shold bring Cable in just yet but an intro to the character would be smart. Gambit should be behind the scense working wiht Sinister but not fully in the movie or the team. Roster needs to eventually constist of Professor X Cyclops as the leader and ample screen time. Wolv. Storm, ROugue who needs to leave and get powers via later avengers/Ms Marvel crossove, Colosuss, fully powered iceman,beast, Kitty pride and Night crawler, With Jean returning in some form or time. The next few movies should be based on the 80′s team and those stories with all the original actors reprsing theyre roles, even though i hate halle as storm.
You can’t fix these movies with some flimsy time-travel plot. It’s lazy and it just won’t work.
I predict a complete failure if they attempt this, which may actually be a good thing in the long run.
I mean the MCU is already blurring there universe with reality, sci-fi, and fantasy elements that adding Mutants to the mix just makes it more confusing. I think Fox should stick with X-Men for a while since there is a lot of opportunity there.
I don’t like onions on pizza, and I don’t like my x-men mixing with avengers.
Ever since Beast joined them, things have felt wrong. It really does feel like two different universes. Avengers have been mostly government sanctioned, x-teams mostly considered outlaws and on the run. Two very different worlds.
just don’t like them mixing, can’t really explain it. Feels wrong on film, maybe fine for a one-off in the comics, but not on film… just too busy. Which character would you follow? Exactly.
Hank McCoy was the Avengers for awhile back in the 80′s and him, Ice Man and Angel got put on that new Defenders team until someone decided to resurrect Jean Grey and bring X-Factor out.
At this point the problem with the Avengers seems to be, who hasn’t been on the team? Marvel is going to have to be selective with who they throw in the movies because it could just end up being a mess.
Marvel could allow with guidelines and maybe look over what they were doing with the movies.
But I would think maybe certain X-Men or Spiderman would be easier than the whole team.
I agree, you don’t need every X-man, but you need spiderman and the FF4. A scene where Reed Richards and Tony Stark try to prove who’s the smartest, and the Reed says something like “yeah, but my girl is hotter than yours”!!! Thing and Hulk having a shoving match and maybe having the core X-man team Beast – to challenge starks and richards alleged theories, and cyclops, jean storm and wolverine including Xavier. its alot but you need all of that and then some more, maybe even magneto and another powerful bad guy like Dr Doom to deal with Thanos. And as far as Doom and Magneto helping out he good guys, what bad guy wants another bad guy not from their turf messing on their turf and since magneto and xavier are friends, he would help out
The Xmen and everyone else for that matter should really stick to theyre own movies with nothing but hints and easter eggs that theyre are other heroes and powerful beings/mutants/events etc. Also placeing certain events in some kind of chronolicial fashion btween studios so no one is stepping on someone elses continuity toes. This would take some effort yes but not impossible. In the future however it would be amazing to see a major marvel event combinbing almost everyone. But to do so things need to be established such as everyones own movies, sense of character, arcs, and of course continuity is a must!!!!!
Its probably more feasable to leave some of Marvel’s properties at studios because of the money it would cost to bring all the characters and movies to the screen.
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That’s all I can say. Of course she wants to hitch her lame horse to the Avengers franchise (ok, lame is a bit excessive) but if I were Marvel Studios, I’d say thanks but No thanks. The X-Men series is one of the most convoluted series of movies I have ever had the misfortune of seeing seen, save for the first 2 (X1 & 2) but the rest. Hell, at least first class was watchable (YES I SAID WATCHABLE. Not fantastic by any stretch of the imagination. Again, Fox f***ed with canon (Emma Frost anyone). Shaw was exactly Shaw but a bad variation of Mister Sinister. Question
Why couldn’t they have had Mr Sinister. Where was the story of Xavier and Eisenhardt meeting in Israel in the 60′s and then taking out Sinister. With Sinister, you could bring out Apocalypse in the sequel (set in the future) with Patrick Stewart and Mckellen. X-Men 3 should’ve been about the Phoenix force and the Hellfire Club. That would’ve made sense. And maybe X-Men 4 could’ve brought in the time travel element ala Days of Future Past
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That’s all I can say. Of course she wants to hitch her lame horse to the Avengers franchise (ok, lame is a bit excessive) but if I were Marvel Studios, I’d say thanks but No thanks. The X-Men series is one of the most convoluted series of movies I have ever had the misfortune of seeing seen, save for the first 2 (X1 & 2) but the rest. Hell, at least first class was watchable (YES I SAID WATCHABLE. Not fantastic by any stretch of the imagination. Again, Fox f***ed with canon (Emma Frost anyone). Shaw was exactly Shaw but a bad variation of Mister Sinister. Question
Why couldn’t they have had Mr Sinister. Where was the story of Xavier and Eisenhardt meeting in Israel in the 60′s and then taking out Sinister. With Sinister, you could bring out Apocalypse in the sequel (set in the future) with Patrick Stewart and Mckellen. X-Men 3 should’ve been about the Phoenix force and the Hellfire Club. That would’ve made sense. And maybe X-Men 4 could’ve brought in the time travel element ala Days of Future Past.
I agree, good ideas. They should hire a team of people like you to oversee the reboot. But they won’t, unfortunately
It’s pretty simple on Marvel’s part……
Marvel Exec to Fox: “You give us the rights back to a few characters like say Galactus and The Silver Surfer and THEN We’ll talk. Until that time, talk to the hand.”
As long as Marvel calls the shots I would love to see a crossover. Marvel just has a better handle on their comic universe than Fox.
All I gotta say is: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Okay there I’m done.
When Nick Fury told the group the World was filling up with people that can’t be matched – I took that as an X-Man invite
In my opinion before bringing the Avengers vs Xmen series, World War Hulk series, and Civil War, they need to introduce Dr. Strange, The Inhumans, and Black Panther, and also set in the Illuminati for the rest of the big movies (avengers 2 and so on). the also need to bring in Spiderman, the Xmen, Fantastic Four into the Marvel Universe. yes I know its not going to be happening anytime soon, but that is what is going to need to happen. but honestly its the only way its going the whole series is going to work.
Where is a Future Foundation movie? That could cross over Spider-Man and Fantastic Four! Of course it would have to happen after the Fantastic Four reboot. But I think that it would be an awesome idea!
Okay, legal crap aside, how is this even possible? The entire avengers universe is created off the basis that natural born mutants don’t exist. You cant all of a sudden combine the Avengers Universe (and all the iron man, Thor, captain america, hulk movies) with X-men. There is just no convincing explanation to how all these Avenger movies have been made with no mention of the existence of natural born mutants, and then bam, there are thousands/millions of them that exist. Spider man would be the more realistic addition of Studios were to pair off. So to me, the Studios coming together is the least of this ideas problem, there is just no way to make it make sense…