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  • JessSayin'
    @Vic,

    Thanks for the 'facts' I was referring to..
    I stand corrected.

    "Yours is the superior intellect"
    -Wrath of Khan
  • Niall
    @Zipper Stevens and Ken j,

    Clooney manages to balance his career. He makes one for himself and another for the studio.
    The movies he makes that don't tend to make money are :
    a) quite cheap
    b) awards films that get enough critical kudos to make them profitable on DVD or abroad.

    A perfect example would be Good Night, Good Luck. It only grossed about $30 million - but it only cost about $10 million to produce. Good for everyone involved.

    That clear it up?

    Niall
  • Ken J
    George Clooney, lol. The only place where he's a big star is in his overly inflated head...
  • Zipper Stevens
    @ Niall:

    Good follow up. But, couldn't you say the same thing about George Clooney? I think he's had a few tankers but still makes movies. If three strikes is true, then some actors are immune to it...

    @Joshi:

    True about the albatross. And like it, someone at FOX has killed theirs... :)
  • Gary
    I bet Jackman would love to have a hit that isnt connected to the X-Men franchise.
    But if Wolverince succeeds I am sure he will take it!
  • Silvereagle
    Wow! FOX is giving Wolverine's mutant healing factor a really good workout! He may even not survive at all...
  • It's true, I love Jackman, but his non X-films have all done poorly.

    I really liked Swordfish personally at the time though. Oh, and I loved The Prestige - but that was an ensemble cast.

    That's probably a big reason why they did things like throw in Gambit into Wolverine.

    If Wolverine does well, there will be two sequels to it and even if the story is horrid (very likely with Fox), it will still bring in loads of $$$.
  • INK
    @Niall

    Perhaps it is not so much him as an actor but his decision making process in the lead roles he accepts. The movies you mentioned above held absolutely no interest for me when i saw the trailer and it had nothing to do with the lead actor.

    There are only a hand full of actors/actresses that based on them being in the movie alone, I go and see it.
  • Niall
    @ Joshi

    I'd say that Sam Jackson is an actor and not a leading man. He's often the sidekick or the supporting actor - not the star. That's not to say he's never top billed though (or been the lead).

    @ Vic,

    I agree - contrary to what people now seem to believe following these Wolverine articles, I am a Jackman fan and I've pretty much seen all his stuff on the bigscreen. Even Someone like You!

    However, at some point people will stop paying him top dollar once his movies have some sort of low grossing pattern.

    Niall
  • @Niall

    Thanks for clearing that up. I find it interesting that Jackman (who I hear is a REALLY nice guy) is so popular yet the non-Wolverine movies he appears in don't seem to reflect that.

    Vic
  • Niall
    RE: "teetering on life support”

    Going by the three strike rule in Hollywood - The Fountain grossed $10 million, Deception grossed $4.5 and Australia eeked out $48 since it was released (from a $130 mil + budget)They're all US grosses.

    I'd say that Jackman needs Wolverine if he wants to be seen as bankable. In fact, as much as I like him he has never really headlined a major hit on his own.Van Hesling is the closest and that limped tp $120 million and was pretty much sold on concept and not the star.

    I hope that clears up the "teetering on life support” comment.

    Niall
  • @Zipper

    Yeah, I thought that was a bit over the top... probably should have snipped that line out before publishing the post.

    Vic
  • Zipper Stevens
    Serious question: How is Jackman's career "teetering on life support"? I'm no huge fan of his and I haven't seen any of his non-x related work, but the guy seems to be steadily employed, making the talk show rounds, and on the cover of a magazine or two. Yes, FOX has become an albatross to their own name, but that isn't killing HJ's career. Wolverine may very well tank but I bet he still gets work afterwards.
  • Ken J
    Is it really such a far fetched idea of someone being there if his wife is there? I mean I know this is hollywood and all, but could there be a slight chance that they got married because they actually like being around each other?
  • partyoffive
    See prior posts where Shuler-Donner said as early as October 3 (the date of the message posting) there were going to be reshoots in January. And Cleo had nothing to do with this - that wasn't supposed to start filming in April at the earliest (assuming it could get financing).
  • Rob
    Here are some facts I see:

    Fact: Re-shooting for the film
    Fact: 2nd Director on stand by
    Fact: Studio interfering with Hood's sets?
    Fact: Fox Studios is making this film
    Fact: Fox ruined X-men
    Fact: Hugh is a producer
    Fact: Hugh had to pull out of Cleo
  • Oscar!
    Whats the point of this post??? To get people worried for no reason??? I didnt see any facts here. Just you trying to get people to worry about the film.
  • @JessSayin

    The production has been plagued with problems including meddling by Fox head Tom Rothman, so it's not much of a leap to say that reshoots are a bad sign.

    Although of course you may be right - we don't have mutant powers of prophecy here at Screen Rant. :-P

    Vic
  • I think the movies going to upset the same people the Xmen movies did.

    Others will like it just the same. ( that doesnt mean its good )
  • Strider
    That suppose to be fingerS! haha
    Oh,another reason for me believing movie will disapoint is the new pic up at Superherohype and AICN. as predicted, Deadpool has no mask, and looks pretty lame all round. While I love Ryan Reynolds and think his perfect for the Deadpool character, unfortunately his star appeal and looks are probably a good reason behind lack of mask. Further more, because of the no-costume rule in the X-men film universe, or at most crappy ones, he just has on cargo pants and a red tank top. LAME!
  • Strider
    I know this movie sounds and looks like it's heading for trouble, but im tired of people taking the reshoots as a heavy sighn for that. Don't people know that almost all big scale movies have reshoots/pickups etc. Take the Lord Of the Rings for instance, 3 years after princable photagraphy was finished, they were still busy with reshoots and shooting new scens for Retutn Of the King. Not because the film was in trouble, just because they decided they needed some stuff different or stuff they didnt have. They usually come to this conclusion during editing, when the realize some things are just not working and that they need certain things for pacing reasons etc. Really, pickups is not a weird thing for films, and definitely not a sign of the movie sucking. That said, I do think Wolverine will not be up to scratch (no pun intended :-) ) I just think it's gonna be a real disappointment, especialy due to the earlier reports of problems on set with Hood and studio etc. Ouw, I think my finger hurt now :-)
  • JessSayin'
    Were there any FACTS at all in that article? Didn't think so.

    It's 'articles' like this one that get everyone's boxers bunched up and spreads the notion that because there are a few re-shoots there are naturally BIG problems right here in River City and you better keep a bullet for yourself cuz' this movies gonna suck for sure.

    Gimme a break!..better yet, gimme some facts!!
  • Gary
    oops!
    wrong thread .
    So many movie messes I get them mixed up!
  • Gary
    If they just stuck to Logans origin,
    instead of trying to turn this into X- men 4
    There wouldnt be a problem.
  • Ray O
    This thing will make money because of the character, the title, and Hugh.
    I don't see it reaching the bar set this past year for quality by the other hero movies. FOX's only hope will be Avatar.
  • thanks partyoffive for mentioning this! Let's hope that things with Wolverine will turn out to be as we all wish. I think all these fears about the film exist just because Wolverine is such a highly-anticipated flick, much more than any other X-men movie ever was
  • partyoffive
    A Lauren Shuler-Donner interview from Oct. 8 - she said in that interview there was more filming in January:

    http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php...

    >>>CS/SHH!: And is the Stan Lee cameo obligatory at this point, even though he didn't personally create Wolverine?

    Schuler Donner: Well, we shot in Australia, and so we don't have a Stan.

    CS/SHH!: Oh no... Maybe he can get placed in the background digitally?
    Schuler

    Donner: Yeah, I know. Oh, you know what, we're doing some additional shooting in January and that's a good idea. I love Stan!
  • Hey guys! Forgot to give you THIS url where you'll find THE EXACT Hugh Jackman answer to Wolverine's bad publicity:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39807
  • Maybe Hugh's answer to all this bad rumors about the Wolverine movie is this new full-cast photo he just gave into publicity. It's really badass. Plus, Jackman said that the reshoots were always planned. Check out the pic at the following url:

    [http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/01/17/badass-new-full-cast-photo-from-x-men-origins-wolverine/]
  • partyoffive
    According to recent news, Cleo doesn't even have financing yet but Soderbergh had said he wanted to start filming in April. The "scheduling conflict" Hugh mentioned was probably Wolverine publicity - he even said so in a radio interview I heard recently when he said they were "trying to work things out" and Soderbergh even said in an interview a few months ago that he wanted Hugh but he had Wolverine to promote and they were trying to work that out but I guess couldn't. Cleo has nothing to do with this, it's more likely Wolverine promotion if the April start date is a go.
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