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Andy said,
March 18th, 2008 

OR, we could just tape or DVR everything and just fast forward through those annoying commercials…

Oh wait, I already do that.

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Wes said,
March 18th, 2008 

How about those annoying LOCAL commercials during national events? I’ll bet they get the sponsors to pay extra to blow your eardrums when the switch is made.

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Panda said,
March 18th, 2008 

I was at a seminar last week about product branding and this example was brought up - that ads market through volume to drill their message into our heads.

The speaker had a great line that applies to most advertisements… “the best brands are those that whisper” i.e. don’t have to yell.

One can say the same thing about movies - the best stories don’t have to tell you to feel what the character is feeling, you just feel it.

One of my favorite action scenes of all time is the Napal saloon fight in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Danger all around, lots of action, but there was almost no music. We didn’t need crescendos and swelling violins to tell us this was a stressful situation, you just felt it.

Did I get off topic? sorry…

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790 said,
March 18th, 2008 

(Excuse me today folks I’m a bit pissed at the state of things).
That being typed:

Marketing companies are completly run by medicated retarded semi-concious Pakled lifeforms that think there creating marketing magic.

Btw,(I love it when the TV asks me a question).

“Is you penis too small, do you have a sore throat accompanied by heart
irregularities?, are you having a hard time breathing or falling asleep?
Is that runny nose getting you down? Are you depressed because you have a small penis and a runny nose? Oh yeah did you know its Savings time at your local Ford dealer!!!
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

This mantra is all I hear from ads on tv and radio nowadays. At least in til I grab the remote and hit mute. (Its like an Auto-destruct button for ads).

The fcc has way to much power and directs it in all the wrong directions.

Of course the commercials are louder than the show. Of course the tv stations can adjust volume so that everything is on the same level.

If you believe otherwise I have some snake oil that will get rid of that bald spot…

And to those question ads, my answer is No!

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Nes said,
March 18th, 2008 

this is so true. My family never believes me when I say the TV gets louder during commercials…so loud that I end up muting the thing…or someone comes in to tell me to turn it down, while I snipe back that it’s the imaginary increase of volume during the commercial that they are hearing…

and it’s true that the commercials that don’t blast at us are the most effective. I remember a commercial where it was silent up until the last 5 seconds of the advertisement, and half way through it, I looked up to see why no volume was coming out, and ended up watching the advertisement until it ended and another startedoff blasting into my ears.

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nes said,
March 18th, 2008 

and more power to you for watching Supernatural!!!!!!! :D

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March 18th, 2008 
Marketing companies are completely run by medicated retarded semi-concious Pakled lifeforms that think there creating marketing magic.

But 790, how do you really feel?

Marketing is an interesting business where
A: People make money doing it
B: The crap works,
C: A & B scare me.

Yes, 790, your TV does ask you questions because they want to “involve” the viewer in the process.. I’ve studied marketing to some degree and it’s a wacky beast the works…

Colors, info to make people “feel” informed, etc.. it messes with the mind and it works.. Again, Item C!!

And it all goes back to the ratings systems once again, that help the marketers do what they do..

Like you 790, aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Because commercials and ratings are both sides of the annoying coin.

Panda: No, you did not get off subject, you hit one point on the head.. good programming.. good scripts are worthy.. but it’s the canned crap that we have to put up with as it sells the products.

And face it.. robocop, as loud as it is, means really loud ads, so get ready with those mute buttons!!!

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790 said,
March 18th, 2008 

Like all the drug ads I did put a disclamer up…

Prob I have with most if not all commercials is that I don’t want or need anything their selling.
And how did Robocop get involved with this?

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790 said,
March 18th, 2008 

Like all the drug ads I did put a disclamer up…

Prob I have with most if not all commercials is that I don’t want or need anything their selling.
And how did Robocop get involved with this?

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Brian W. said,
March 18th, 2008 

the loudest part of the show you’re watching isn’t louder than the commercials but the commercials stay closer to that maximum volume the entire time. It’s called compression.

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Brian W. said,
March 18th, 2008 

doh, i should read first then comment

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790 said,
March 18th, 2008 

Well this site isn’t called Candyland its called Screen Rant and today was a bad day at the dynamite factory.

Promotional consideration provided by GIECO,

“Did you know I saved over 150 dollars by switching to GIECO?”…

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March 18th, 2008 

LOL, believe or not I actually really switched to Geico recently. :-)
Had to put in a claim and honestly, they were awesome plus they were cheaper than what I had previously.

Notice the utter and complete lack of ANY affiliate links. :-)
Vic

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Jim Carey said,
March 19th, 2008 

Andy,
DVR viewing rules. It provokes the question, “What commercials?” and “What Mute Button?” I skip past ads.

790,
Oh man you had me roaring. Pakleds? Gotta say, TNG gave us some interesting “people.”

I use English subtitles when I watch DVDs, because I hate rewinding (old term) in order to understand intimate whispered scenes which are followed by some really loud orchestration.

And last but not least, I do NOT need my ears to bleed, in order to enjoy a movie experience, whether in the theatre or at a friend’s house. Big sound systems and they have to blare the volume…

790, was that rantyland enuff 4 u?

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March 19th, 2008 

Jim, I actually wrote about how overly loud the volume is set in movie theaters a while back:

Going Deaf In Movie Theaters

Vic

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790 said,
March 19th, 2008 

Good Jim. But you need to write sentance paragraphs better. Haha
I’ve been told I write and spell like a Pakled.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
He’s very smart, and he knows alot. Yes your very smart. You will fix craft and make us go fast?
^
(Quote:
Pakled commander)

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Jimmy said,
March 19th, 2008 

Because of these Commercials being very loud, and taking up 20 minutes of each one-hour of my TV time, I don’t even watch “TV” anymore. Instead I download episodes in higher quality without these commercials to watch on my own schedule and without interuption. It’s the way of the future!

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March 19th, 2008 
Everyone here has made a common point across the board and Jimmy summed it up:

“I don’t even watch “TV” anymore. Instead I download episodes in higher quality without these commercials to watch on my own schedule and without interruption.”

Unfortunately, I’ve seen the sign of the times where ads are probably going to start showing up in downloaded content because shows like Jericho, though it isn’t doing so hot in ratings, is the most downloaded show on iTunes (Or was when I was looking it over recently.)

Advertisers and marketers are starting to recognize that and realizing that even though Nielsen is stuck in the dark ages by just measuring TV viewing, this new realm has to be tapped and they are starting to call for some type of ratings off of the internet. (Which means our days of ad free shows may slowly come to a close.. ug.)

Thanks everyone.. I’ve got a new subject to tear into in the not too distant future.

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darkbhudda said,
March 20th, 2008 

There’s 2 tricks they used to use, not sure if digital transmission but with analog they do the perceived loudness trick and also a trick with the compressor.

TV compresses the audio into a smaller band for transmission. The quiet noises become louder and the louder noises quieter.

The trick they used to do with commercials was have it really low volume for a tiny fraction of a second, the compressor would then kick in and boost the whole commercial, so it was actually louder.

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Dataschmuck said,
March 20th, 2008 

I absolutely HATE how commercials are louder than TV shows, but I actually CAN do something about it. I work at a TV station. I dub these commercials from tape to our main server every day. Each commercial has bars and tone at the front, and if you set the audio levels to that tone, the commercial ends up waaay too loud. So I just play through the commercial and set the audio levels to the actual volume of the commercial, instead of the tone at the front. Sure it takes a little longer, but it makes me feel better in the end.

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Panda said,
March 20th, 2008 

A friend of mine once theorized that the future of ads in TV shows is product placement, and that (tech allowing) studios would digitally input products into older syndicated shows. For instance, a Cheerios box could be digitally replaced by Cap’n Crunch in Seinfeld’s kitchen cabinet. This would combat the Tivo or downloading issue. Could we live with that one?

Who knows what the next gen of ads is. They’re everywhere already.

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Jim Carey said,
March 20th, 2008 

Bruce,
Online program commercials are much louder also! When I watched Daybreak and other online eps, it was very annoying…I didn’t want to wake the whole house!

Dataschmuck,
Thanks for caring! You receive a valuable “reward of omission”: People will not hate your guts.

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790 said,
March 20th, 2008 

Prob is Panda I don’t buy most products they shove down our throats. So these product ads just annoy me.

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March 20th, 2008 
Panda,
Product placement is already in full swing. A friend of mine was the one responsible for getting reeses pieces into ET when M&M’s bailed on the movie.. and she retired early from the money she made from selling product placements to studios..

Every single thing you see in a movie or tv show is there because the maker paid for it to be there.. . The Truman Show just mocked the process that’s been in place for years.

Sorry .. but we’ve already been besieged there!

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790 said,
March 20th, 2008 

Another reason the volume is higher and compressed is because most tv ads have subliminal messages in them.

Its called Subterfuge. And there’s companies that design comercials exclusivly with these hidden messages in them.

Its pure evil…

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March 20th, 2008 

You guys…. there’s a cool thing here on the site called the “search function.” lol

Hate Product Placement? Here’s One Culprit

Vic

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790 said,
March 20th, 2008 

Is tomarrow Solient Green day?

Anyone know?

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