I noticed from one of the pix I downloaded, the colors of the Colonial Vipers may be suggestive, maroon stripes on a bone-white fuselage…

These are precisely the same colors, according to every dramatic presentaiton I have ever seen for that place & era, of the colors of the Roman Senate – maroon stripes on a linen toga!

Could this mean anything, a sort of hidden message from Moore, or even (I shudder to say it), Glen Larson himself?

These colors were very significan to the Romans of the Old Republic, and were at the root of their opposition to the wearing of the Royal Purple, what set them off to assissinate Julius Caesar, but going as far back as the Consul Germanicus Tiberius Grachus (killed by a Senatorially-led mob), many decades before – he never wore the Royal Purple robes, but was accused of doing so – but JC actually did, which was what got him killed (well, that, and installing Cleopatra in her own villa just outside of Rome, hahaha!); I can’t help but wonder if there is a connection, or is it just a co-incidence?

What say you all?

Thanx, JOHN

Btw, the final Cylon has to be Kara – how else could she possibly implode in the atmo of a gas giant, crash on Old Earth, and then reappear within striking distance of the Galactica, in a brand-new Viper fresh out of the box?

Also, did anybody else besides me notice, as soon as the others recognized Jimi Hendrix on the bar piano, the nameless man who helped her put it all together, Hera’s star drawing & all, simply disappeared? “We?” one of them asked?

Was this strange piano man her father?

Was she deliberately blinded, Mary Magdaline-like, from recognizing him?

What say you all now?

JOHN

But I could not help but notice, one of the Final Five Cylons is conspicuous by her very abscence – Tory!

I know, she was evil, more like Cavil than the others (btw, does anyone know where the name ‘Cavil’ comes from? I know I’ve heard it somewhere – and where did Ellen come up with his real name, John, what was that all about?), and of course she got her just deserts at Tyrol’s hands for murdering Callie – served the bitch right, if you ask me.

I am not saying the ‘13th’ should be Tory, I approve of her exception just for that reason alone, all I am saying is, she was one of the Final Five. But as to who (or what) the 13th should be, I dunno, at first I thought it should be a Centurion, the original human-made Cylon, but then it hit me:

It should be only one, and one alone – little HERA…

After all, she is destined to become Mitochondrial Eve, right?

JOHN

PS: This post is so long, I didn’t read all of these, so please, if I am picking up on someone else’s idea, forgive me! I’m no plagarist…

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Told ya, those weren’t just “apparatus”, they were clues… LOL

Who Is ‘The Last Cylon’ On Battlestar Galactica? – Screen Rant…

With the fourth and final season of Battlestar Galactica upon us, I have many questions swirling around in my head. Not to mention I either hate or thank Ron Moore for this. Thanks Ron!!!…

[...] and by the way, over on my post questioning who the last Cylon was, I surmised that humanity is the final Cylon.  I was off a bit but obviously I was almost on the [...]

Can think of all sorts of better plots so there better be a good explanation. Still, I haven’t seen the episode so I’ll hold off decrying it for a bit.

To stimcaps, Scott from April 23rd, prometheus (As one of your 4 choices), kirbeegee, Sparta (As one of 3 options) – nice job.

Stimcaps, Scott and kirbeegee for being dead on and picking Ellen as your only choice… good call folks.

So if the Cylons called this planet Earth, well, I was a bit off on all of humanity being Cylons, but it seems I was close.

My plan B of it being Gaeta… well, so much for that plan.

Thanks to everyone for participating in this cool conversation.

I know we all just watched the latest BSG but I am a little confused as to who is the last Cylon. Is it Starbuck or Ellen? But from the quote above and the “Last Supper” image, a strong case could be made for Ellen (not to mention her husband flat out says it at the end.) She is dead, (in shadow), not with the fleet, and seeking redemption from her husband. Plus, she is the only one not in the “Last Supper” image and her place is next to husband.

What do you think?

Baltar: too many ex post facto plot holes..The human who gave the Cylons the access codes to wipe out humanity is actually a Cylon who thinks he’s a human with an imaginary Cylon in his head, was the puppet President of New Caprica, lived on a Cylon ship, went back to Galactica and was tried as a traitor…? BSG is complex, but the storytelling is always tight.

Lee Adama: too much back-story to add. The writers would have some up with some arc about how Bill Adama ‘acquired’ a Cylon son that explains away Lee’s conception, birth, childhood, etc. Seems a little much.

Helo: making Helo a Cylon retroactively negates one the show’s central theme, portrayed largely by his character: love transcends bigotry, politics, race, etc.

Kara Trace: she’s “Moses”, not some messiah. And like Helo, if she’s actually a Cylon it takes too much away from Sam’s character turning out to be a Cylon. The show goes to great lengths to blur the distinction between what it means to be human or Cylon, that both races struggle with the same problems, have the same flaws, etc.

Bill Adama/Laura Roslin: these two…there’s a little wiggle room here, but not enough for me. Whatever’s coming involves the human-Cylon babies, i.e. a “new” generation. Roslin is going to die — any kind of reprieve seems too “happy ending” for BSG. I suspect her death may even end up being ‘necessary’, the fulfillment of a prophecy that ushers in next era for humanity. Likewise, I think Adama is headed for hard times. His death would provide symmetry to Roslin’s, a passing of the torch from the old Cylon-hating generation to new “mother” and “father” figures, perhaps Lee and Kara. Remember, the show began with Galactica and Adama being “retired.” It seems somehow fitting that, his job of finding Earth complete, Adama the man will finally fall apart — but in some way that Adama the hero lives on forever.