With the fourth and final season of Battlestar Galactica upon us, I have many questions swirling around in my head. Not to mention I either hate or thank Ron Moore for this. Thanks Ron!!!
Before I start, I have to warn you that as of April 4th of this year, it was reported over on EW that the first 10 of the last 20 episodes are scheduled to air – which seems to confirm what they were saying over on SyFy Portal about the season being split up, so be ready for a break in the midst of it all if the writers strike didn’t mess up their plans. (BTW, the EW link has some good background info for those who need to play catch-up.)
So who the frak is the final Cylon? Let me torment you with some logic and observations first.
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In the picture above, it’s called Battlestar Galactica: The final supper. In the picture is a goblet by itself at the table. Is there some significant clue by this missing representation of a figure or the cornerstone to the answer? It is such a simple goblet or cup, yet by itself, being pondered heavily by Lee Adama. At EW.com, if you click on the number representing the goblet, they point out that Moore insinuates the missing Cylon is not at the table. Well, there go a a few theories.
One of my first thoughts, since they like tossing twists at us, is Mr. Gaeta, only because if you look at the four of the final five, they’re all in strong support positions in the fleet, much like Gaeta has been all along.
The wheels are turning now, aren’t they?
But yet as I ponder the final Cylon, I also have in my head the quote we’ve heard a number of times, first in Battlestar Galactica: Razor, and then in the show itself: “This has all happened before; and will all happen again”
What the heck does that mean?
In recent episodes, we’ve seen the Cavils having the raiders lobotomized, referring to them as “They’re tools, not pets.” – Which says they’re treating members of their own race like slaves. Not cool Cavil. In fact, maybe foretelling?
We’ve seen Six’s and Sharons’ give the Centurions free thinking.
We also see the Six’s and Sharons have the Cavils, Dorals, and Simons all shot, and then Six asks one of the Centurion’s to “throw the surviving Cavil model out the airlock… please.”
In that scene, there’s a Centurion in the foreground cleaning up the massacre mess, and when she said please, he stopped what he was doing and seemed to look in her direction, pondering, then went about his business. That scene said it all for me, because what I saw was a spark of a thought in that metal head of his. Dare I say, a plan? Wait, doesn’t the show open up saying the Cylons have a plan? This all started with the shiny guys, it’s probably going to end with the shiny guys.
Bruce’s Revelation, with the reasoning that created it:
1. Humans created the Cylons.
2. Cylons rebelled against their human creators.
3. The Cylons evolved themselves into their creators image (aka “skin jobs”).
4. The new Cylons (skin jobs) lobotomize the Raiders AND in the same move, have given the Centurions free thinking.
With this, I project the following inspirations:
- The Centurions are not just tools.
- They must rebel against their creators in order to avoid being lobotomized.
- Suddenly, we will have the Cylons fighting the “Humans” all over again.
We then see “humans” defending themselves against the “Cylons / Centurions” and of course, the Centurions would probably create skin jobs somewhere down the road in order to infiltrate the “humans.”
And it starts all over.
Hence, all of humanity is “The Last Cylon.”
For me, this premise puts to rest some questions and doubts I have had about the new Cylons… For example, if Tigh is a Cylon, how was he in the first Cylon war?
If it’s not all of humanity, I’ll go with Plan B: Gaeta.
Me? I can sleep now. It all makes sense… that is until I find I’m wrong.
What’s your take? I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter!
Photo Credits: Last Supper: Battlestar Galactica Season 4 Blog; Cylon vs. Cylon: Galactica TV
UPDATE (9/27/08): Aaron Douglas who portrays Chief Tyrol participated in an online interview and he blows the lid off of some story details from the end of season 4, with potential story spoilers. You might want to jump on over and check out our newest post about Aaron Douglas Dishing Out Possible Spoilers.
UPDATE (1/18/09) See our coverage of season 4.5 premiere episode and who the final Cylon revealed is over on our Battlestar Galactica Premiere post!
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Yes…But why would the old man specifically say human should NOT follow her?
By the way, in the preview doc cottle said to Adama: “I ran a test on your cylon prisoner….guess what I found…” and the next scene is adama talking to Tigh angrily shouting at him “what were you thinking??”…I first thought six is pregnant! But they are both cylons…hmmm…any ideas?
Maybe the 5 can reproduce after all!
I caught that too!
Someone suggested that Tigh’s deceased wife was an older version of 6, or visa versa…
Or Adama is yelling at him for being left alone in the cell..
ARGHH.. I hate logic!!
Because they don’t want the humans to find earth for whatever reason. Maybe it has something to do with the 5 being from earth, if they are supposed to lead the cyclons there, would you want a petty little human like Starbuck to find it first?
Well…he (the old hybrid) didn’t even let Kendra Shaw tell the rest of human about Kara. I don’t think he meant to create a diversion. Why would he jam the signal if he wanted to send a diverting message to human? He could just let Kendra deliver the message about not to follow starbucks. But instead, the cylons jammed the signal so the message never got to Pegasus.
Was it actually being actively jammed as opposed to interference? I can’t honestly recall if any of Shaws message made it through or if it was all blocked.
From what I remember, this is what got transferred:
“I have to warn you…It’s Kara Thrace…”
That was it. They had no idea what she might have wanted to talk about.
I think it was mentioned that the cylons are jamming the frequency.
You know, for the longest time I’ve felt that Lee will end up being the final cylon, but doesn’t the whole story simply make a lot more sense if it were Starbuck?
She’s known the Eye of Jupiter Mandala since she was a child.
She was away being resurrected while the other 4 cylons came to being. In fact, didn’t she reappear during the very battle during which the 4 heard the Terran Bob Dylan music?
AS of the last episodes, we hear a hybrid that says:
“You are the harbinger of death, Kara Thrace. You will lead them all to their end.”
It doesn’t say anything about humans.
The last episode provides the “revelation of the cylons” which is that the loss of immortality means the dawn of “death”. Kara Thrace has been the “harbinger of death” to the cylons.
She will lead them all to their end, which means she will lead them all to Earth and eventually to dying, but not until each one of them has mated with a “human” and created the next race of half-breeds.
Likely, the one God wants these half-breeds as followers for some reason.
she was a leader of the human resistance.
she has a destiny and some of the other cylons know it, but don’t know why.
Question is – what is her relationship with “Scar”? Was that her old horse? Or was it simply a resurrected version of the one she gutted when she got stranded on that planet and it wanted revenge?
Starbuck is the final cylon.
And here’s a wild guess – Romo Lampkin is the cylon God, count Iblis…
Great thought Pete.. well put together.
Did Scar come up recently or are you just remembering something? I didn’t catch that on any recent episode.
Much does point to Starbuck: But is it too obvious? That’s what I’m wondering.
Hard to say.
The writers are doing a fantastic job with throwing us off the scent in so many ways.
Gaeda with the singing and missing leg – how beautiful was that?
Seems like he’s next off the show with a suicide to leave us wondering: will we see him come back?
I was over on the Battlestar forums and lots of people still aren’t thinking “Starbuck” simply because it seems too obvious.
You may be right – it is so obvious that you just don’t expect it to really happen.
Slow-blade penetrates the shield, so to speak…
As for Scar…
Scar was the nickname of the cylon raider that was taking out a lot of colonial fighters. In one particular episode, Starbuck is up against Scar a great deal.
I was curious if there was possibly some kind of an early relationship there.
One Raider sensed and identified Anders, though the skinjobs do not seem to be able to do so.
is there an old relationship between Starbuck and Scar?
Just a thought.
oh no no no no no…. Pete
We’ve got enough trauma trying to deal with just one picture and a question…
If you add ‘a thought’,
’sha caun’t take no’ moore ceptin! Sha’s gonna blow!’
and the section of my brain dealing with this will infarcate on itself and reboot.. then it will happen all over again.. ARGGHH.. see, it’s starting!
sorry, that was off-track from the intent of this thread…
Pete;
“AS of the last episodes, we hear a hybrid that says:
“You are the harbinger of death, Kara Thrace. You will lead them all to their end.”
It doesn’t say anything about humans”
Yes the female hybrid didn’t say “humans”, but the old hybrid in Razor did.
You’re right. He did say “Kara Thrace will lead the human race to its end. She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death. They must not follow her.”
We’ve got one hybrid saying the humans to their end. Another saying “all to their end.”.
I guess it simply just means all of them are coming to an end of what they know. I think they just mean the half-breeds will be the only future. No more humans, no more cylons, just cylon/human mixes and all will be mortal – no more resurrection.
The hybrid talks of the final one coming out of darkness and yearning for redemption that can only come through great suffering.
It could be that Starbuck killed Zak intentionally or that she has not yet done a terrible deed that will require such redemption…
Ok…now…THAT is interesting!
But why would she kill Zak? Why is Zak’s death significant compared to all the others? Why would Kara or the cylons benefit from Zak’s death? She could make a new baby hybrid…but instead she killed him…hmmm..doesn’t come together in my head…
But interesting…
Guys,
This is interesting:
http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/05/betting-site-la.html
Well, assuming the idea has any merit at all, perhaps they could explain later that she’s known all along that she is a cylon and has been acting the whole time. Perhaps in her love for Zak she confessed she was a cylon and he was going to say something so she had to kill the one human she had learned to love. That’d be a tough one to carry especially since she’s in love with the whole Adama family.
But that’s pretty weak, so how about this:
Like the other cylons, she is also learning how to love. She doesn’t know she’s a cylon and is not acting. Let’s face it, as far as being a well-balanced person goes, she’s a bit of a wreck. Perhaps Zak rejected her and she couldn’t accept it because she is a cylon that doesn’t know how to deal with rejection (such as drinking to country music) and she directly or indirectly kills him as a result of trying to cope with it. She then hides the true results of the situation because Zak was a bad pilot.
Otherwise, I can’t imagine Zak as being strategic to any cylon plot in any way.
But without something like her killing Zak, I think she’s seriously short of needing redemption anymore than anyone else. Baltar comes to mind as the #1 person needing redemption after having killed pretty much all the caprican colonies humans (and probably a lot of fuzzy little baby seals), but I just don’t want the final cylon to be him so I’m ignoring that really obvious fact.
There is one last crazy idea here and that is that Kara Thrace is actually a very special cylon that comes from the story of the prequel. Isn’t it her face on the head of that little girl stuck behind the door in the cylon test facility that bill Adama discovers as a young soldier?
My hypothesis generator just goes crazy with that one.
Man I love this show.
Pete, I agree that the woman in the test facility looks a lot like Kara, but you don’t get a very good look at her(at least I didn’t). Plus I rather hope the producers are not lying to us when they say the final cylon has been a part of the fleet all along and that s/he is missing from the Last Supper teaser.
I paused it and thought it was too close to ignore. It wasn’t a dead match, but then again, it was supposed to be a little girl. The older man that was there may have even become the First Hybrid.
But I believe it can be Starbuck and still meet the constraints you’ve listed. Again, there ARE 2 number 6’s shown in the teaser. It would be OK to claim that the cylon as we will come to know it is missing – at least in my book. I think Starbuck makes sense because it would be right next to Lee.
And she really does drink a lot, so maybe that Chalice (as someone mentioned a potential symbol of female) really is for her!
“Kat”
I would like to interject from the episode where Kara was back on caprica and was in the hospital. They had done surgery on her to remove a bullet and latter when she found out the hospital was a cylon experiment facility, she began to question what else they had done to her. Perhaps the current starbuck is a clone? By the way if she is a key person in the end or destruction of the colonials or the cylons or some combination in the end, then she fits the one needing redemption that the old hybrid speaks of. Maybe Baltar comes to her aid thinking he will redeem himself by taking the hit for her when the time comes??
If Kara is the last Cylon, how F-in’ disappointed I would be…
Pete -
I assumed Scar was the raider that Kara crashed with and learned to pilot, then flew to Caprica (2nd season). The only reason I say that is because the recap at the beginning of the Scar episode has clips of her piloting that raider.
The last Cylon is NOT Kara. My bet is still on Gaeta, but I haven’t seen last week’s episode yet
Last week as in May 23 or May 16th?
No new episode on the 23rd, but the 16th might encourage your “Gaeta is the final cylon” musings.
As for scar, perhaps you’re right – that scar is simply the one she crashed and later gutted and piloted.
Wow. Wow.
How is it possible that Col. Tigh could get number six pregnant?
So maybe the final five aren’t cylons like number six etc after all.
Wow.
This is a bit of a twist from my original premise, but the other day while hanging out with some in-laws, my sister-in-law mentioned how her daughter is doing the same things or being like she was when she was a kid.. (light bulb)
So the parents had habits,
(it’s happened before),
and the children have the same predisposition to the same behavior.
(it will happen again)
Food for thought…
Relevant? Probably not. We’ll see.
Checked out the Battlestar Wiki yesterday and found a couple of things that make sense.
1. The planned reason that the 13th god isn’t mentioned by the colonials was that one tried to raise himself above the others and that caused the scattering from Kobol. This explanation scene was cut, by the way.
2. The Scar raider was only suggested [by Valerii]to be the raider that Kara flew back to Galactica. It was never established as fact. It’s unfortunate that Mr. Moore wasn’t asked about this in the I-Pod cast for the episode.
3. In the episode “Rapture” where it’s questioned who #3 is really talking to, when she says “you were right.” I think that she was talking to Baltar and what she was trying to tell him was that he should have been the one to see the final five. Because she finally realized that she wouldn’t escape punishment for doing so and wouldn’t be allowed to reveal the knowledge.
“The final five” doesn’t that sound like some kind of football reference?
There are so many blogs that talk about the scene where Boomer shoots Adama… that right before the shot Boomer shakes Gaeta’s hand, almost like Gaeta handed her the gun or triggered the programming. It’s been so long since I saw that episode I don’t remember. Sounds convincing though.
Again, Gaeta is the final cylon. Hands down
You guys should check this out: http://ideas.4brad.com/gaetas-transsexual-lament-and-guess-whats-coming
Not saying it has too much relevance, however there is a line of the female hybrid quoted there: “Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening, struggling with the knowledge of their true selves. The pain of revelation bringing new clarity and in the midst of confusion, he will find her.” I think this is refering to Gaeta, fits the whole strung out on morphine, phantom leg thing. Combine this with the lyrics of Gaetas song about a woman wearing a mans clothes, and I think we have what may be some evidence for Gaeta knowing who the final female cylon is.
Steve,
Thanks for the lyrics! very cool.
Panda,
is there a list of logic as to why “it is gaeda”?
anyone ever try to explain why gaeda woke in the night and walked to Baltar’s cube, err, I mean prison cell, while Baltar was hanging himself to death?
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