With the fourth and final season of Battlestar Galactica upon us, I have many questions swirling around in my head. Not to mention I either hate or thank Ron Moore for this. Thanks Ron!!!
Before I start, I have to warn you that as of April 4th of this year, it was reported over on EW that the first 10 of the last 20 episodes are scheduled to air - which seems to confirm what they were saying over on SyFy Portal about the season being split up, so be ready for a break in the midst of it all if the writers strike didn’t mess up their plans. (BTW, the EW link has some good background info for those who need to play catch-up.)
So who the frak is the final Cylon? Let me torment you with some logic and observations first.
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In the picture above, it’s called Battlestar Galactica: The final supper. In the picture is a goblet by itself at the table. Is there some significant clue by this missing representation of a figure or the cornerstone to the answer? It is such a simple goblet or cup, yet by itself, being pondered heavily by Lee Adama. At EW.com, if you click on the number representing the goblet, they point out that Moore insinuates the missing Cylon is not at the table. Well, there go a a few theories.
One of my first thoughts, since they like tossing twists at us, is Mr. Gaeta, only because if you look at the four of the final five, they’re all in strong support positions in the fleet, much like Gaeta has been all along.
The wheels are turning now, aren’t they?
But yet as I ponder the final Cylon, I also have in my head the quote we’ve heard a number of times, first in Battlestar Galactica: Razor, and then in the show itself: “This has all happened before; and will all happen again”
What the heck does that mean?
In recent episodes, we’ve seen the Cavils having the raiders lobotomized, referring to them as “They’re tools, not pets.” - Which says they’re treating members of their own race like slaves. Not cool Cavil. In fact, maybe foretelling?
We’ve seen Six’s and Sharons’ give the Centurions free thinking.
We also see the Six’s and Sharons have the Cavils, Dorals, and Simons all shot, and then Six asks one of the Centurion’s to “throw the surviving Cavil model out the airlock… please.”
In that scene, there’s a Centurion in the foreground cleaning up the massacre mess, and when she said please, he stopped what he was doing and seemed to look in her direction, pondering, then went about his business. That scene said it all for me, because what I saw was a spark of a thought in that metal head of his. Dare I say, a plan? Wait, doesn’t the show open up saying the Cylons have a plan? This all started with the shiny guys, it’s probably going to end with the shiny guys.
Bruce’s Revelation, with the reasoning that created it:
1. Humans created the Cylons.
2. Cylons rebelled against their human creators.
3. The Cylons evolved themselves into their creators image (aka “skin jobs”).
4. The new Cylons (skin jobs) lobotomize the Raiders AND in the same move, have given the Centurions free thinking.
With this, I project the following inspirations:
- The Centurions are not just tools.
- They must rebel against their creators in order to avoid being lobotomized.
- Suddenly, we will have the Cylons fighting the “Humans” all over again.
We then see “humans” defending themselves against the “Cylons / Centurions” and of course, the Centurions would probably create skin jobs somewhere down the road in order to infiltrate the “humans.”
And it starts all over.
Hence, all of humanity is “The Last Cylon.”
For me, this premise puts to rest some questions and doubts I have had about the new Cylons… For example, if Tigh is a Cylon, how was he in the first Cylon war?
If it’s not all of humanity, I’ll go with Plan B: Gaeta.
Me? I can sleep now. It all makes sense… that is until I find I’m wrong.
What’s your take? I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter!
Photo Credits: Last Supper: Battlestar Galactica Season 4 Blog; Cylon vs. Cylon: Galactica TV
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Dude, what a GREAT “out there” theory! Wouldn’t it be a trip if you were right. That would be a head-spinner of a twist on which to end the series.
Vic
Ah man that’s good.
Really good.
Cheers.
Great food for thought.
Interesting theory. Allegedly there are many clues in “The final supper” Promo piece. Since it is a take on the Last Supper by da Vinci let me rouse up more questions. Why is Caprica 6 the center of this piece? If she is representative of Christ , does this mean she will ultimately save humanity? Is she to be the savior? Keep in mind there are 11 characters each representing a disciple. The missing 12th character should be the last Cylon. ( The shows creators have said the last Cylon is Not in the picture.) Interestingly, this seat is where Judas sat in the original painting. So does this mean the final Cylon will betray 6 or all of humanity? If So, Who could it be? Personally I’ve always suspected Baltar as the final Cylon. Initially because of the Original TV series & the fact that he sees & communicates with 6 even when she is not around. (If it turns out he is not a Cylon then there needs to be an explanation of this) There are ton’s of other reasons I feel he is the final Cylon & although the creators claim he is not , there are two sixes in that picture (Natalie & Caprica) who’s to say there isn’t another Baltar yet to be revealed?
Who knows? Maybe the last Cylon is Hot Dog.
No, no, no… you guys all have it wrong.
The last Cylon is clearly Jack Black.
Are the Final Five one of a kinds though? Not sure if any others of Ty or Sam. So maybe Balthar is a one off?
He would be a bit obvious for the Final Cylon, and yet also fulfilling. Kind of torn on it. If they give it to another secondary character, like Dee, I will not be happy though.
Hey, the President’s new assistant, she’s got nothing to do, let’s make her a Cylon!
Hmm.. wouldn’t it suck of they got to Earth, and it’s all populated with the final five Cylons?
Ray: I started going down that path you note because I think it has merit, but then I got caught up in so many different ways it could have gone that I just imploded and restarted the post!
If the entire fleet finds out that they are ALL cylons, would they still continue to earth? Or would they decide that earth should never be found by them or the other cylons? I am assuming that the 13th colony was lost before the first cylons were built, and so it is the only place where real humans (us) exist.
That guy in the tub at the end of “Razor” said something along the lines of Cara being the downfall of humanity. If the fleet is all cylons, she is leading them all straight for us here on earth.
Zarek or Cottle,
and there is still the mysterious cylon god.
I like the theory Bruce. Let me take it one step further:
All tweleve tribes are Cylons… and the war with the REAL humans drove them off Cobal to establish the 12 colonies while EARTH was the destination of the real humans.
Interesting thought. If true, I would like to see this play out dramatically with humanity reaching earth and then being informed of this truth by what they see there. Perhaps there are human equivalents of all the main characters who “created” the human cylons way back when, and then the crew of Galactica realizes they are copies?
Think that’s a great idea, especially as you could really link it with the first series. I remember seeing the pilot and there were cylons on display or something, and the Galactica is an old ship, they say.
So would love if they could end by tying the two back together.
its an intruiging theory but it doesnt mean ther still isnt one last model.
The ads speak of the coming of the twelth
the opening promo says ONE will be revealed.
even if there are only 5 models, that doesnt mean
there wont be more revelations .
as I said there is still the matter of the cylon god .
once we know who the creator is we will have more revelations.
and twelve models could mean the cylons were meant to be a sister race not an enemy.
If they were all cylons, wouldn’t they all have resurrected in the resurrection ships during the attacks on Caprica? Or any other times humans have died while in the vicinity of a resurrection ship?
Hey DataSchmuck,
The resurrection chambers are only fitted for the 7 models.
This discussion has gotten way out of hand.
I think they will stay true to the 12-model scenario, meaning 12 that each look the same.
I’ve said Coddle and Zarek before, and Gaeta is higher on my list. Then again it could be any of many that died during the first three seasons.
I really hope the finale isn’t too ambiguous, or too well-tied together.
Bruce-
after reading your article again, it’s a really nice, well thought-out theory. I likes it
It has a little Matrix twang to it. It’ll be interesting to see what happens in the end
“All tweleve tribes are Cylons… and the war with the REAL humans drove them off Cobal to establish the 12 colonies while EARTH was the destination of the real humans.”
So, Earth becomes the new “Cobol”, for a future generation to exedus and create the next-gen 12 colonies. 12 Cylon models are the inspiration for the 12 gods, after which the colonies are named. Cycle starts all over.
In the next generation, I want to live on planet Boomer, and start a feud with those jerks on planet Dorel, and only be friends with D’Annians.
And yes, they better not have an ambiguous ending, unless of course, some screenrant writer just messed it all up for them and they have to rewrite everything. dOh!
But you’re forgetting just one totally mind blowing twist Panda: everyone is a Cylon. They just haven’t figure it out yet, and the last Cylon is really the entire embodiment of the human race.
Wow!! This coffee I’m downing is Gude!!! I need more.
One note: In the last episode, they made it very obvious that the robots seem to react to 6’s commands when she says please. (She tells one to escort Cavil back to his ship and the bot doesn’t move until she says please. Cavil then comments that he’s glad they’re using the magic word.) This leads me to believe that the centurions are not as free thinking as one might believe. Perhaps the 6’s and Boomers built in a control word much like the antagonist in the game Bioshock. Would you kindly agree with me?
The final Cylon is…. Boxey.
has that joke been done already?
In keeping with your theory Bruce, so you think that the war will end with this discovery, and the Cylons and Colonials reconciling? Implying that the Centurians will rise against them all one day?
Or… (and my preference)
will the Cylons beat the Colonials, with the skinjobs populating Earth?
I think it would have a huge impact under this second scenario. Maybe the Colonials and Cylons discover the truth, and form a truce. The Cylons leave the Colonials to populate Earth, and the Cylons fly off to create the new twelve colonies. Hence, the Colonials are the 13th tribe.
I really do believe there is a 12th Cylon model to be revealed. I’d probably lose it if the final Cylon is a metaphore.
I take back most of that last post (about the skinjobs dominating). I forgot how the show stressed the importance of crossbreeding.
Fast forward a few thousand years…
damn-dirty Centurians
Oh yeah, that would be cool, they reach Earth to find the apes running the place.
How about the cylons win and go to Earth and find the Terminators in charge?
Centurions vs Terminators! I’d pay to see a crappy movie version of that. probably.
is that the only way for the war to end, the discovery that the humans are cylons?
Steven, we might as well plop the Hulk in the middle of it too! Puny toasters!!
Panda: I like where you were headed with the truce, which will probably get broken 15 years down the road by one of the parties…
It’s happened before, it will happen again..
Indefinite syndication is what I’m seeing, and I was tempted to do the Boxey joke… Where in blazes is that dang dog any way!
The monotheists (Cylons) want to kill the polytheists (humans) and the atheists (Cavill’s group) want to kill everyone.
As for who the final Cylon is, I’m not even gonna guess. I want to be surprised.
Here’s the last episode, pans out from a final space battle between Colonials and Cylons to reveal Baltar holding a snow globe. A Beautiful Mind meets St. Elsewhere. Or if Tim Burton got his hands on it, they get to Earth and the Lincoln Memorial has Baltar’s head. Oh yeah, Bob Newhart’s wife is the 12th Cylon
Seriously though, If Bruce is right, I hope it is done creatively. Maybe not blantently SAY that how the cycle continues, but make it pretty obvious to any devoted viewers. You know, the kind of ending where those who only paid half attention say “wha??” but when you explain it they’re like “oh yeah! that is sooo cool”.
Sorry, I can only think like a third grader tonight for some reason
What about the music that 4 of the final 5 hear? That suggests that the 5th isn’t on the ship, or for some reason is not attuned to that music, or maybe they somehow generated the music, and know they are a cylon and wanted to gather together the other four?
I think what we are headed toward is a rapproachment between the humans and the cylons ,
PEACE and coexistence on earth .
i also believe earth is in its infancy .
Adama/ADAM?
We shall see.
What about Kara Thrace? How did she come back from the dead, and why did the first hybrid call her the “Herald of the Apocalypse”? Is she some kind of higher being who simply cannot be killed, or is she some kind of cylon?
Could the final cylon be the Galactica? Maybe that is where the music came from…
Adama = Earth in Hebrew.
I believe the final Cylone is Dualla, and that she may be carrying Lee’s child. Here is my theory on why I believe this–all of the revealed skin jobs have one programming theme in common, to reproduce, resulting in human/cylon hybrids (Boomer with Helo, Chief with Callie, Anders with Starbuck, etc.). They’ve said, “They will not harm their own.” I believe this to mean the hybrids, and that that is their mission, to bridge the gap between humans and cylons.
I believe the final Cylone is Dualla, and that she may be carrying Lee’s child. Here is my theory on why I believe this–all of the revealed skin jobs have one programming theme in common, to reproduce, resulting in human/cylon hybrids (Boomer with Helo, Chief with Callie, Anders with Starbuck, etc.). They’ve said, “They will not harm their own.” I believe this to mean the hybrids, and that that is their mission, to bridge the gap between humans and cylons.
I have been pondering a few important pieces of information.
1. Kara would lead the human race to its end, and is the herald of the apocalypse and the harbinger of death.
2. It does not say anything that the cylons will not be defeated.
3. When they actually get to earth what if there is something unseeingly wrong that is not noticeable but kills off all of humanity.
4. This would leave Hera and Nicholas left to be a new beginning for life. (Adam and Eve)
That would be such a great Rod Serling like twist for this series. I would be really happy with that, though I wonder if it’s too “heady” a concept to actually put on the teevee.
I’ll go with you on Gaeta being important, but I wonder how he could be important enough to betray Six or humanity.
I don’t have any good theories, but I am just hoping they don’t bail out with a “yet to be seen” character.
6 is the devil, baltar is christ and will travel back to earth via the worm hole and play the savior in humanity, and the 12 are the 12 disciples.
The last Cylon is Ellen Tigh. The point of sleeper agents is not to infiltrate the humans, but to experience genuine human life, to see if they really are the equals of their creators. No two characters have been through as much as Saul Tigh and his wife — their relationship is characterized by the most extreme human suffering, including alcoholism, infidelity, and murder. Exactly the kind of extreme emotions and experiences the Cylons want to feel to prove that there is no difference between them and their human creators.
When Ellen comes back, Saul will finally be reunited with the love of his life, and the knowledge that all their suffering together had a purpose. It’ll be great.
I think this is the only dramatic conclusion that really makes sense for the last Cylon, especially given that Moore and co. have said that the last Cylon isn’t actually pictured in the painting above.
But the scenario you paint in this blog entry is pretty awesome as well.
I think it would work..
maybe back in the day the 12 models coexisted, but at one point the final 5 splintered off from the other 7.
The final 5 could be the types that were capable of reproducing, the other 7 were there to fulfill some type of role (like worker ants or soldier ants, etc).
The 7 models can only clone, the final 5 meanwhile are used for normal reproduction with any of the other 12 models. Because of this, the final 5 models were the baseline for all of “humanitiy” on cabol.
Over thousands of years, most of humanity lost their genes which helped identified themselves as the final 5, but at least 4 of them have kept it to some degree where it was activated.
Did anyone else notice that the presedent is in the spot where Judas is in da Vinci’s painting.
Why is it nobody is bringing up the fact that if there were originally 12 models because there were 12 colonies and now there is a 13th colony, Earth, then there will be a cylon for Earth too.
I personally think they’re going to find Earth and it’s going to be post-apocalyptic. With ruins from wars and nukes around, maybe even uninhabitable. I like the idea of Kara being some sort of ‘higher being,’ it would explain her return nicely, though it reminds me a bit too much of stargate’s ascended beings. As for the final cylon, I love the analysis of the last supper picture and the Judas reference. The only thing is, the only person I could think of betraying 6 would be Baltar, but we know he’s not a cylon.
Kara mentioned in the last episode that she doesn’t feel like that is her body anymore, like she’s just watching herself from outside. There must be more to Kara than we think..
My money is on the Battlestar Galactica ship itself being the last cylon.
The president isn’t in Judas’ spot, that’s Bartholomew’s spot
I think there are some interesting theories here, lots of food for thought. I don’t know who the final cylon will be, but I doubt there will be some kind of ambitious “humanity is the twelfth cyclon” job pulled on us.
Instead, I think that the colonials and skinjobs will reconcile and, unite under the “one true god”, reach earth and rebuild humanity through interbreeding. As generations pass, the hybrids will become more like the humans and less like the cyclons.
The centurions meanwhile, will venture off into space on their own and perhaps eventually parish (or not, their fate is not important.) They will take the resurrection ships with them and eventually the 12 cylons will die. Eventually, with the 12 cylons gone and the hybrids more human than cylon, they will lose sight of the “one true god” (monotheism) and return to the polytheism where the twelve gods are based on the 12 cylons.
At some point down the road, humanity will re-invent the centurions (the thirteen tribe, the followers of the “one true god” - each of the twelve tribes is in honor of one of the twelve gods), and they will rebel again and the cycle will continue. The centurions are punishment by the “one true” monotheistic god for polytheism.
Just a theory anyway.
The final cylon is …. Jack Bauer
When he figures it out, he’s going to say …. ‘Dammit!’
If everyone is the “Fifth”, then what significance does baby Hera have? Why was she sought after by Deanna, and hidden by the humans?
i know it sounds odd, but i think there is more than 1. i think there is a final cylon, but then i also think there is 1 ‘other’, either a creator or god-like figure to be revealed. i just don’t believe that the centaurians created the skin-jobs to blend in, i think someone or something was working with them.
on top of this i honestly believe the cylons are heading toward a civil war with good cylons pitting against ‘evil’. i think some of the models will work with the humans to defeat the cylons bent on destroying everything. we are already seeing this start.
it all had to start somewhere, right? there were once 13 tribes, there was a jealous god that caused the rift that began the exile from kobol, it’s all coming together.
One thing I haven’t seen discussed is Chief’s baby — isn’t it the same kind of hybrid as the previous Athena/Helo child (Hera) except with a male cylon as parent? Given all the panic from Roslyn on the first, isn’t this second child as important? Yes, I realize few outside the four know, but the four haven’t said word one about this.
I believe that it is Helo. They say that the last model is in the shadows, waiting to redeem themself. And they keep saying that Hera is important. With Nicky(Chief’s son) being another half Cylon, usually that wouldnt make her so special. So it could be that she is the product of two cylon parents.
I think the last Cylon is Laura Roslin. She has been at all the right places at all the right times to guide the fleet. This being said I think the goal of the Cylons is to use the humans to get to Earth. They may exterminate them after they get there but thats not my point. I think Laura Roslin’s cancer maybe turned off and on like a switch. The Cylons use this as a tool to invoke sympathy and compassion from the human populace and of course Adama. She may or may not be aware of the fact she is a Cylon but she does use her illness to get what she wants.
A few random thoughts:
Her previous aide Billy was killed so her new Cylon aide could take his place.
She is where Judas would appear in the “Last supper” pic.
She didn’t shoot Starbuck when Starbuck urged her to tell Adama to change the course of the fleet. She somehow knew Starbuck would be the one to guide them to Earth.
Not sure who the last Cylon is, but I’m pretty sure it’s not Starbuck…her coming back from the dead seems analogous to a similar event that happened to Starbuck and Apollo in the original series…think they’re uniforms turned white or something?
Does anyone think its possible that Starbuck is really the first hybrid? I can’t remember mention of her father. I also think there might be some loose ends that never get tied up.
From you:
“But yet as I ponder the final Cylon, I also have in my head the quote we’ve heard a number of times, first in Battlestar Galactica: Razor, and then in the show itself: “This has all happened before; and will all happen again”
What the heck does that mean?”
Seeing as how much of the hints are Scripture based, from the Book of Ecclesiastes let us look at what follows that thought:
9 What has been is what will be,
and what has been done is what will be done;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there a thing of which it is said,
“See, this is new”?
It has already been,
in the ages before us.
11 The people of long ago are not remembered,
nor will there be any remembrance
of people yet to come
by those who come after them.
It’s reversed! The BSG Last Supper picture is reversed from the actual painting. SAM is in Judas’ spot! The giveaway is the knife that Tyrol is holding. In the painting Peter is holding the knife and is on the left side of the table, but here he is on the left. This puts Sam as Judas and Kara as John. This also means the missing of the 12 appears to be Philip. Keep in mind the painting depicted the reaction of the 12 to Jesus saying one will betray him, much is the same for the picture. This makes complete sense, as Philip is ALWAYS listed FIFTH among the apostles! The question is, of course, who does Philip relate to as a BSG character..
As for me, I don’t believe that The Four are really Cylons. They were all in Cylon hands for some time while on New Caprica. I believe they have been brainwashed into thinking they are Cylons. My theory came into doubt though when I saw the Presidents assistant backhand Callie. That was not normal strength. I believe that Baltar is a Cylon though. Which would explain his ability to visualize his own 6 and himself. I firmly believe that Tigh and the Chief are both human, with the other two doubtful. Did Adama know Tigh before they were stuck on that crappy freighter together? If so, that excludes Tigh from being anything but human. No, the twist might lay in the idea that The Four are still human while the Final Five haven’t been shown to us at all.
Its all happened before. It will all happen again. They’re all cylons. The 13th colony is the cylon homeworld. Its a simulation by the cylons to see what will happen if they wipe out human kind “their creators” for playing god. They are children scorned and nothing more.
Nice Theory, but I’ll take it a step further. The humans, the real humans, are on Earth. The fled Caprica decades/centuries ago during the first real “Cylon War”. The cylons that remained evolved into “Humans”, their children (cause apparently skin jobs can have kids) are the survivors of the latest, newest cylon war (Lee, the President, etc.), Maybe using photographs of real Humans as templates for their human selves. The Centurions (their servants) at some point rebelled. That rebellion was the cylon “Humans” great war. The cylon “Human”, believing they are real Humans are now searching for Earth. This would explain why Col. Ty can be a cylon and have fought in that “first” war. This would also explain how a human and a robot can reproduce… they’re both organic robots!
My brain hurts… Why did the humans leave Kobol again?
I can’t help think there are more human cylons than the 12 as well, Kelly.
In last season’s finale, when Galactica jumped to the nebula and the power outage caused the fleet to power down, Roselyn doubled over and grabbed her head… just about the time Tigh and the other 3 had the revelation that they were cylons. I didn’t notice it until the marathon week on SciFi and I watched it again. Add that to her personality inconsistencies (harsher and darker with her closest friends) and I can’t help thinking Roselyn is a cylon. She may be the final, or she may just be the prophet foretold in Pythia.
Maybe they will land on earth just in time to finish off the election. And announce that Bush is the final model.
Wow, this got me thinking.
Try this on for size.
Earth is much more then the 13th colony, it is the first.
They created the cylons but something happened and they ended up throwing them as far away as they could. They cylons began to wander without any guidance so they started creating their own masters, hence the skin jobs. Now it is possible that since they believe in the one true god they created 12 apostles in order to communicate with god, because of their limited knowledge of the religion. They then for some odd need create the 12 colonies in order to give each apostle their own area to lead. The 12 begin to have kids and found that in order to populate their worlds faster they should create clones. I’m guess is that the 7 are similar to the originals that were first copied but not exactly the same. The other 5 models never copied and the 5 that we see now look nothing like the originals from years ago. So the first war started because the 7 models were tired of doing the dirty work of the 5 Cylons and wanted to start breading on their own instead of being copied all the time. Yes yes I know allot of holes in it but I can’t remember every detail unfortunately. They left the 12 colonies alone and went off to build better fighting machines to get ride of the 5. Now at some point they loose their knowledge of what happened and all information on the 5 became restricted because they did not like them. That is why they are not allowed to talk about them, they don’t know why they just know that can’t, should not, forbidden whatever. Because of the 5 never copying and just reproducing they have no idea what they look like. However there is some code that passes on to only a set number, like the 4 we know about, in order to make sure that if problems ever come up there is a deep programming that keeps Cylons from killing them. My guess is so that there is always some type of genetic code still around in order to keep the original memories or programming around.
Starbuck might be from Earth sent to find out what the hell the Cylons are up to and what she find is not good. If you think about it she is in the perfect spot to infiltrate the cylons, gets in with high ranking officer’s sons? Yeah that would work. Now when is goes down into that storm she is killed, or at least her body is. My guess is the people on Earth have involved to the point where they are almost immortal so when she dies ZOOM right into a new body, or transported, or something. Remember if Earth did make the first cylons they would have had similar technology and the rebirth skin jobs might just have been remembered technology from Earth. Hard to say, but that could be why they say Starbuck is going to lead to the end or whatever. If she does lead them to Earth they will learn that they are all Cylon generations and boom, no longer human. They could find that Earth no longer has Humans left, that they evolved into a higher being. If you remember the Star Ship from the old series they said that they simply evolved from something like humans. Could be the same way in this case and Starbuck can’t remember because she had to devolve in order to infiltrate the cylons. Also her ship comes back good as new, so did the original Starback from the old show. He even cames back with a white suit, everything restored to like new, even him!! Never know.
Now the last one would have to be in a support role, and if you remember the photo that Dianna made, it looks like 3 men and two woman. My thoughts are the last cylon is going to be a woman, which one who knows. http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/2/25/FFSketches.jpg
Cheers
Holy crap, Bugg! I didn’t even think about that. That’s the ultimate twist, that the four are not Cylons but brainwashed (including Roselyn).
Which would mean the final 5 have yet to be revealed. I like it…
It’s improbable but I like it.
For some reason I keep thinking that it is Lee Odama. It makes it easier for the writers of the show. You want a nice surprise without being too complicated.
Lee already seems like an outsider. He looks like he might take over the fleet as president. It would be a nice surprise, with the father/son relationship having to change. It just seems practical. If both Kara and Odama Sr. still loved him it would be a cool moment about acceptance of cylons.
Well, I think that there are only three possible solutions to answer the question: who is the last cylon?
1) Starbuck: Let’s face it, she died. How else do you explain her return if not for the fact that she is actually a cylon? I think this is the most probable solution.
2) Baltar: Let’s face it, his schizophrenic episodes are prescient. How else do you explain how his actions have been guided from the very beginning? I think that this is a somewhat probable solution.
3) Dualla: Her absence from the “last supper” table is consistent with Moore’s hint that the last cylon is not at the table.
I like many of the theories here, but just as on LOST, the creators have tipped their hands quite a bit lately, allowing us to weed out a lot of stuff that is no longer feasible and converge on the truth. I think the final Cylon is a known character, but one not too obvious (not Baltar or Starbuck, so maybe Roslin or Tom Zerak?) “All Along the Watchtower” is a huge clue that puts us at some point later than 1967 on Earth. The song was written, then Cylons were created by descendants of the same civilization, with that song as part of the programming. (Although none of the Cylons seem to recognize it.) The song memory may have been triggered by proximity to Earth, to activate “Watchtower” mode. These Cylons may be programmed to guard Earth, to prevent anyone from reaching it. To fulfill the Prophecy, the Galactica will find Earth in our far future, bad Cylons will kill all but a handful, who in turn will start a new human race, spread to the stars, build Cylons, and program them never to return to Earth.
Your theory would be similar to how Animal Farm played out. The animals rebel against their masters, but the Pigs become the new masters, and the cycle starts all over again.
So … they saw ALL OF HUMANITY in the operahouse? i think not.
I think you all forget that Leoben told Roslin “Adama” is a cylon… which now I just frack’d my head? then Leoben knows the identity of the final model and isn’t telling someone?
Ok well based on that premise there are 4 possible, maybe 5.
1) Bill Adama
2) Lee Adama
3) Zach Adama
and the curve balls
4) Dualla - married into the Adama family
5) President Roslin - she’s been kinda touchy feely w/ Bill, wouldn’t surprise me if the two got married. Also she could be a new kind of model, different from the rest since she was injected with the hybrid blood from the human/cylon love child
Name dropping alert: Had dinner with some of the cast last weekend in Germany and I didn’t even know a cast member bit the dust until I watched the tape ep yesterday. AND SHE WAS ONE OF MY GUESTS!!! We were all pretty drunk but a perfect time to extract some news. Damn they’re good. They are very closed lipped.
Just a few things, we have already discussed how there are the 12 Cylon models, and the 12 Disciples of Christ, but, (and maybe I have missed this discussion already) there are also 12 tribes of Isreal, and Greek Mythology, there are the 12 Great gods. Just thought I would throw that out there.
I’ve been toying with the ideas of Roslin, Baltar and Starbuck each being the final Cylon, but each of them seems too obvious, given the importance the show is still placing on this idea. If Starbuck really were a Cylon, for instance, these first couple of episodes would’ve played out differently, with far less concrete reason to doubt her. In addition, Baltar has wondered for so long that his being a Cylon would be totally anticlimactic from a dramatic perspective. Also, it probably would’ve been revealed before now, at least to him, and the show would’ve taken a very different turn. As for Roslin, that could be, but they’ve still telegraphed it as a possibility a bit too obviously for me to buy it. Unless there’s some crazy double-fakeout thing going on…
In reading all these comments, it reminded me of a throwaway line from one of the recent episodes: Adama and Lee are talking about whether Kara is a Cylon or not, and Lee asks, “What if it were my brother? Would it matter whether he was a Cylon?” Now, I’m probably making too much hay of this, but it’d be a really interesting twist if the brother (whose name I forget) were the final Cylon. Maybe he died and was regenerated in another, isolated tank; maybe even back on Earth. Imagine the effect it’d have on father and son if, having reached Earth, the long-dead member of the Adama family were there to meet them. It would also explain the imperative for the relationship he’d had with Kara way back when, I think. Anyway, just a thought…
Admiral Kane.
The author is almost right, the final cylon is all of Earth. The 12 tribes left earth as twelve models of cylons that had rebelled against their masters, but lost the war that followed. In the millenia after their migration they became the humans that they had fought so hard to imitate, and thence became the monsters that created mechanical slaves that then rebelled….
Baltar is the last cylon. The last few episodes a battle ensues and everyone dies but him. He escapes in a ship crashes on earth in the Jerusalem the last scene is him giving the sermon on the mount.
Not sure who the last Cylon is but I do have theory on this has all happened before. Moore has been very good in brining in elements from the original series in interesting ways. Recall that the in the old series, the opening dialog says something to the affect “There are those who believe that life here began out there.” My theory is that they (humans and Cylons) find earth. In the past. Way past, 10,000 or so years ago. They have an epic battle leaving only a few survivors - human and skin jobs. Combined, THEY both become a new species, homo sapiens. We are their progeny, part biologic, part manufactured. 10,000 or so years later they become technologically advanced once again, become space faring, build advanced robots who rebel and we start all over again.
Oh and I think Gaeta has a good chance of being the 12th. Or better, Tom Zarek. It would be poetic justice for the Apollo from the old series to be a Cylon.
Just my thoughts.
I like the Gaeta theory, and there has to be a final Cylon because we have seen a 5th robed figure. I have a couple theories of my own:
-Time travel must come into this at some point. -I think there may be a 3rd party out there we haven’t really seen, connected to both the final Cylon and Starbuck’s disappearance, but perhaps responsible for the visions Baltar, Six and Starbuck have seen. Someone or think knew the end game, otherwise why would so many Cylons be on such an old Battlestar nobody though should have survived anything. This would also explain the whole “happened before” thing. I think 12 will return to prehistory, will be the basis for the 12 models, and found the 12 colonies. They will be sent back together to Colbolt (spelling) and leave in seperate ships form that location
-I think the final 4 revealed at the end of season 3 are Cylons, but that they are differant because they were real people, who were killed and downloaded/copied into Cylon bodies. That would explain Tye.
That is my theory. I’m sure I’ll be wrong, but it makes the most sense to me.
Sorry if a lot of this is in the above posts. I haven’t read them all.
Guys - its obvious - the Vice President - Richard Hatch - a nice tip of the hat to the old series!
WOW. A mind-blowing and risky theory. The only problem is that it’s a major network show. I can’t imagine that everyone in the fan base would be pleased with the “humanity as the final cylon” theory. It’s too unresolved. A lot like the “matrix within the matrix” theory before Matrix Revolutions came out. And that’s why I think this end, however compelling, won’t happen.
But still… it’s a great thought.
This is Bruce, the author of this post.
I usually interact with folks who comment on my posts but I would have to take a vacation day and sit down at the terminal and shut my office door!
I’d just like to take a moment to say how in awe I am of all the creative ideas piling in that range from out of the blue funny, “George Bush, the final Cylon” to incredibly insightful reflections, as in who’s holding the knife at the table. There are too many great ideas of which I can quote here.
I just want to say thanks for taking a look and participating in the conversation, and for the awesome feed back or extensions on my theory or new theories that have been spun off of it.
Now we just have to wait and see.. and keep in mind, if you’ve skipped directly to the bottom of the page to post, there are some real well thought out ideas in the comments above.
I’ll check back later one and see how we’re doing!
Best Regards to everyone..
Bruce Simmons
I know this is way out there but what about Ellen Tigh? We know that Saul and Ellen never had any children and that cylons can not have offspring together. It may have been a side programming of Ellen’s to sleep with the rest of the fleet in an attempt to create a hybrid child. The series mentions how cylons have tried this with humans many times but always failed, believing that love was the missing component and that fits the bill for Ellen.
Well, I enjoy your theory of the cycle of the war repeating, and I do agree about Tigh, that doesn’t make much sense. But I do disagree about humanity being the last cyclon. Several things fall to mind about that being incorrect. First the raiders falling back because he was a cyclon. Unless that is throughly explained… I don’t see it happening. Second, the mysterious reappearance of Starbuck and her ship exploding and earth. Something about that suggests that there is another force at work. Not to mention the whole Gaius and 6 seeing beings working for “god”. I think Geata is a smart choice, but also that Lawyer (I’m horrible with names) who defended Baltar in the Finale of season 3. He seemed far too put together. But also, you have to think, the Xena Cylon (again bad with names) KNOWS one of the final 5. As was with her vision before being put to sleep. She said I’m so sorry. So that means she’s met one of them. In Person. That kind of limits the choices, since I can’t recall her meetings. But it was after occupation. So, I think I’ll start scanning through the old episodes. Starbuck, comes to mind just cause of the fight they had for the arrow. Anyways, that’s enough of my pieces
Hey man awesome theory. I have one of my own though. I was thinking the otherday about who the last cylon is and who would is left to have enough impact to the story. My thought process is this: Througout the past 4 years we have gotten many back stories and foreshadowing tomost of the important characters. Now ask yourself who of importance has not had a backstory?. Razor gave us the admiral, and we met starbucks mom. No person who has been announced that they were a cylon has a backstory. I use the term back story only with the people that have had a visual backstory. The people that are left that fall into this category (and keep in mind that they must have a huge impact) are:
Gaeta
Lee Adama
Gaius
and
The president of the 12 colonies
yes
Laura Roslyn
There is one more person that would be the ultimate bomb and I mean this would drop everyones
mouth to the floor.
Lee Adamas Brother
I know that he was supposed to be dead… but
I think that would Frak with everyones mind
Cheers
RDS
I’m amazed that you’ve found any other explenation than this: (its what i puzzled together after season 1, and still strongly beleive)
Humans make tools.
Tools revolve, humans leave earth 1.
Tools kill humans.
Tools end and start profecy on earth 2.
Tools become humans.
Humans choose not to make the same mistake, and forget. They live simple, have faith in some deithy and the concept of soul.
Several thousand years go by with the humans evolving and forgetting.
Loop goes on. Planet earth is reset every time.
OT - the last cyclon? Perhaps its not humanoid.
Could even be a pocketsize spy agent that hid in lots of places, like kitchen appliance or ship bridges. Lets hope it is a ship of the fleet itself.
Gaeta is still on the top of my list. Reasons:
1) his role steadily increased during the second and third seasons (althought the fourth so far hasn’t seen much of him, so I may have killed my argument there)
2) he lied at Baltar’s trial, with no overt explanation to his purpose. I can’t help but recall how in season 1 the version of 6 tried to implicate Baltar with the fake video, and Gaeta’s lie during the trial reminded me of that. “God” is testing Baltar througout the show (according to Caprica 6), Gaeta’s move at the trial is pretty consistent with this.
3) he has been a pretty big player in the 3rd season, but isn’t in the last supper pic. Helo’s even there for crying out loud!
Barryke: Kitchen appliance? You mean that the the fifth Cylon is a toaster? Wouldn’t THAT be ironic… Makes me think of the Talkie Toaster from Red Dwarf.
There are still lots of possibilities here for the series.
I really like the idea that the 12 colonies really are just the progeny of cylons, but what is interesting is WHICH version of the cylon/human cycle are they?
We all know there is a prequel and if you read the supposed spoilers out there about it, you pretty much know how the most recent human/cylon cycle gets started and who is involved.
The cylon God could simply be one of the Graystones (name?) from the prequel series. Not a true “god”, but the newest cylon robots God, nonetheless.
Don’t forget that there is a 40-year gap from when the cylons re-emerge with the skin-jobs now planted within the caprican society. where were they and where did the Graystones come from?
What if they (and some other Terrans) came to Caprica before the 40 year period, invented the cylons and gave them the gift of sentience (is that a word)?
It may be the opposite of what people think. Perhaps the Terrans were the carriers of the cylon technology. Look at how much the people of the 12 colonies hate the cylons.
Think about the music that the 5 heard. As viewers, the writer’s know we’re omniscient and that the music the final 4 heard is from Earth’s “all along the watchtower”.
Tyrol’s father was a priest - he felt he’d been on the algae planet before.
I think 7 of the 12 were designed to create the demise of the 12 tribes and 4 were assigned to preserve a few at any cost and bring them to Earth. The final of the twelve, I’ve no clue.
The final four are undercover to bring a noah’s ark of slightly purer “humans” back to the “gene pool” on earth where things have run dry and need refreshing.
Isn’t it possible that Tyrol knew the music because he traveled to Caprica as a child during that 40 year period and was raised to be a part of a mission to bring a certain “noah’s ark” of survivors to Earth for a final choice?
Isn’t is strange that the Bionic woman series opened with the same actress as BSG’s Kara Thrace and the same actor as BSG’s Chief Tyrol?
Laugh all you want, but it underlines the theme of the series which is really just all about “us vs. them” when us IS them, too, and that humans are hypocritical biggots.
When they get to earth, as someone mentioned above, they will cross-pollinate the species of humans/cylons, and eventually Earth becomes the next Cobol and the cycle repeats in a new star system (as someone mentioned above)…
There is however, the final variable - the Leoben, Baltar, and #6 angels. They aren’t cylons.
Some higher power is at work and that is the true mystery that I think really remains.
Likely, they’re just the catalyst that allows the whole cycle to keep going and evolving instead of blowing itself straight to hell…
The Doctor is the last Cylon.
He controls Roslyn’s cancer.
He gave Cally the psychotropics.
He faked Hera’s death.
Presumably, he attended Nicholas’ birth.
other points revealed in the show so far to keep in mind - these are from other sites’ recaps, incl wikipedia, so I don’t know of their accuracy
1) Pythia’s story of the exedus from Kobol was 3600 years before the Cylon war. I don’t remember this said in the show, but probably 2nd season. This puts the whole timeline of the lifecycle Bruce creates into perspective, and makes sense
2) Kara is both leading the fleet to Earth and, according to the Hybrid, will destroy humanity. does this mean that it is reaching Earth that destroys the fleet? i.e. if the fleet abandoned finding Earth, they would they survive?
Ok, now I’m cross-eyed…
populate Earth (the new Kobol) -> exedus to 12 colonies -> colonies destroyed, fleet searches for “Earth” (which becomes the next Kobol) -> cycle repeats
where does the old Kobol fit in as a marker to Earth? How is the legend of ‘Earth’ as the 13th tribe created in each cycle?
so far in the show, the following items (fromthe top of my head) have been clues to Earth:
Arrow of Apollo
Temple on Kobol
Eye of Jupiter on the algea planet
Supernova in the algea solar system
Starbuck
So who created these and for what purpose? Are they “recycled” during each cycle or newly created each time?
Ok, now I’m cross-eyed…
populate Earth (the new Kobol) -> exedus to 12 colonies -> colonies destroyed, fleet searches for “Earth” (which becomes the next Kobol) -> cycle repeats
where does the old Kobol fit in as a marker to Earth? How is the legend of ‘Earth’ as the 13th tribe created in each cycle?
so far in the show, the following items (from the top of my head) have been clues to Earth:
Arrow of Apollo
Temple on Kobol
Eye of Jupiter on the algea planet
Supernova in the algea solar system
Starbuck
So who created these and for what purpose? Are they “recycled” during each cycle or newly created each time?
Duh,
Since Baltar was vaporized in the first episode and was running in a field 10 minutes later, I kinda think it’s him.
My theory…
I don’t believe they will ever reach Earth. They will come to realize that they were all cylons all along and they decide that they must not jeopardize the only ‘real’ humans left on Earth. The skinjobs and humans (colonials) destroy all of the centurions and then colonize 12 new planets far from Earth, and the cycle repeats.
Either that or during the last episode the original Starbuck wakes up saying “what the frak was up with that dream?!!”
it’s the Doc.
in the season 3 boxing episode, they tell him to stop Adama’s bleeding and he gets pissed and says “Christ!”…. the colonists don’t believe in Christ. aha! Cylon!
My pet theory too has always been that ALL the humans are Cylons. I think the Cylons still want to destroy humanity but the only humans left are those who escaped to Earth long long ago, but the Cylons don’t know how to get to Earth. So, they re-create the original scenario using skinjob Cylons who are remakes of the original humans in the hopes that they will find Earth too, as the original humans did.
This theory is nonsensical on a number of levels.
First of all Cylons can’t breed among their own, so they can’t become humanity somehow.
Then this theory has no explanation for the the Gods, the Temple of the Five, the Opera House and just about any of the plot or prophecy or semi-supernatural elements that have been intrinsic to the series so far.
The final Cylon is probably either Doc or Zarek. It sure as hell isn’t Baltar as that was the whole point of his journey among the Cylons and his torture scene.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a cycle and it has some kind of possible mundane explanation like the one in this theory, but this theory itself is poorly constructed and explains pretty much none of the big questions.
I doubt it’s Ellen. Baltar used the Cylon detector on her and it was negative. We know it works because it detected Boomer.
I believe the 12th Cylon is someone more prominant in the fleet. Ellen only had influence of Tigh, who is a Cylon himself - what’s the point of that?
I like the early post about the four revealed in Season3 as being differnet because they are copies of real humans. That makes an interesting point.
I would like to see the 12th Cylon be someone who is fully aware, and has been manipulating things all along. What the actual outcome of that person’s actions is has yet to be seen.
I still think it’s Gaeta
rhialto-
Bruce’s point is that the population is made up of human and Cylon mixes, not entirely of Cylons. That said however, I don’t think the show ever stated the Cylons can’t breed on their own, it is only implied.
The 3 I am certain are excluded from being the final Cylon, all because they have each been hinted at possibly being Cylons way to many times:
Kara
Roslin
Baltar
They could change it, but they’ve outright said the Cylons can’t breed amongst themselves.
That’s the whole point of the hybrid.
Great concept. Even if you are wrong I bet the writer will smack their collective foreheads and think “damn, we should have thought of that!”
“They could change it, but they’ve outright said the Cylons can’t breed amongst themselves.”
I know they said once that they haven’t been successful, and maybe they were missing love. It’s inmaterial anyway. the Leobon model and 6 have each tried to experience love in different ways, which could also come into play.
The half-breeds (instead of ‘hybrid’ since that is an actual character on the show) are what is the key, allegedly.
We haven’t brought up Kara’s daughter either. The half-breed clan is already 3 children thick.
Commenting on an earlier post, the four of the final five and possibly the fifth are different somehow, we don’t know yet. What if they were older models from previous generations? I don’t know, just following Bruce’s lead.
Maybe the 5 were models from previous generations, living within the Colonies for thousands of years. Not sure how they wouldn’t be bred out, just thinking. The original 7 were made by the Cylons in this generation (hence the resurrection ships for them only) and would also explain why they don’t know who the other five are.
Again, doesn’t make sense, just trying to keep the discussion going. I love this thread!
ROSLIN
They’ve foreshadowed her twice. She heard/felt something in her head once in the brig and again at the end of Season 3 when they came to the nebula - BEFORE Cylon attacks. She’s shown no other indication of being psychic, so she must have some
connection to the Cylons. And the visions! Hello!!!
Ron Moore is crazy if the final Cylon is not in the Last Supper image.
Only Baltar has the heft to be the final Cylon if it is not Roslin.
Why would it be someone like Gaeta or Dualla or Romo?
And Kara - too obvious and uninteresting a choice.
Since Moore liked the terrible ending to the Sopranos I fear the worst - that he will come up with some insufferably pretentious ending.
http://www.galacticavariants.blogspot.com
Okay, I just finished reading this entire thread, and didn’t see anyone mention the following possibility (which I also just posted about in my blog: 3am.kymike.com):
Lee Adama’s _mother_ was the last cylon. Meaning that Lee is a cylon/human hybrid (along with his dead brother Zack.)
There was a possible allusion to this in a conversation between Lee and his father, when Lee said something like “What if Zack were a cylon?”
Also, when Leoben whispered to Laura that “Adama is a Cylon”: Could mean either Bill OR Lee. (Or he could have been lying, of course.)
Failing that, I would suggest that Starbuck’s mother or father was the last cylon, and so Starbuck is a human/cylon hybrid. This would also explain a few things.
I think Jarak nailed it. Reversing the BSG image makes all the difference in the world. I’ve done some reading and while there are some problems, overall its a very attractive theory.
da Vinci’s Last Supper from left to right:
Bartholomew
James the Lesser
Andrew
Judas
Simon Peter
John
Jesus
Thomas
James the Greater
Philip
Matthew
Jude
Simon
All of these people are also saints, but I’m not familiar (at all) with Catholic tradition, but I would bet there would be many more references via the stories around their sainthood or miracles done in their name. So if I don’t reference a particular apostle’s sainthood, there might be more data to mine out there.
Bartholomew/Adm. Adama :: Friend of Philip and almost always mentioned together. Is associated, therefore, with Nathaniel. Jesus said of him, “an Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit.” Bartholomew is likely to be his family name, as it is theorized that his real given name was also Jesus. Martyred by being flayed alive and crucified head down. This is a problem as he is depicted in art (generally) with a knife (see Tyrol).
James the Lesser/Helo :: Wikipedia concerns itself mainly with who exactly this James is in relationship to the other James’ of the gospels. This James “strongly” clung to Jewish law but was sentenced to death for having violated the Torah. Highly unlikely given the way he died (by crucifixion). It’s also a possibility that this James was the brother of Christ (he was always referred to in connection with his mother Mary, and had a brother Joseph).
Andrew/Sharon :: Brother to Simon Peter (Anders, in this theory). There is a lot of information on Andrew as he’s one of the more popular apostles, being mentioned in the Gospels quite often, probably because of his closeness with Christ. He knew Christ was the Messiah the moment he laid eyes on him. Crucified on an X-shaped cross.
Judas/Tyrol :: I think this works as well as with Bartholomew… The knife. Knife in the back. Betrayal of Christ. Seemed more symbolic to me than Bartholomew being flayed alive. More contemporary to me with the allusion of a knife to the back. There’s not much to be said about Judas that people don’t already know. He betrayed Christ to the Sanhedrin. Hung himself.
Simon Peter/Anders :: Simon Peter is probably the most famous apostle as many (particuarly new) Christians identify with Peter. He was the most faithful or at least had a tremendous child-like faith in Christ. He was the only one identified in the Bible as being armed. He walked on water with Jesus (until he looked down and doubted, then he fell in). He was the first to identify Christ as the living God, and Jesus therefore told him that he would be named Peter, the Rock upon which the Church would be built. He attacked a soldier who came to imprison Jesus (and Jesus healed the soldier). And he was the one who denied Christ three times before the end of the night. Crucified upside-down.
John/Starbuck :: John was brother to James (Apollo) and was the youngest apostle. He is mainly referred to as “the apostle whom Christ loved most”. He would lay his head on Jesus’ chest and sleep. Scholars believe that all the Johns of the New Testament are quite probably different people, while Christians believe they are all one person. If we’re being Christian about it, then this is the apostle who had (and wrote down) the Revelation of the end times. Also it is to be noted that, recently, the image of John has been conflated to be the image of Mary Magdalene (thanks to Dan Brown and The da Vinci Code), who was supposedly the bride of Christ. If he’s the same guy as the John who wrote Revelation, he died on the island of Patmos in exile.
Jesus Christ/Six :: Either way you flip it, Six is in the position of Christ. I’ll leave that one as it is.
Thomas/Baltar :: This is great, I think. Thomas is Thomas the Doubter, or colloquially, Doubting Thomas. He was the most vocal nay-sayer of the group, and may be identified with cynicism or (possibly?) scientific thought. He’s also pretty headstrong in his doubting ways, as when he saw Jesus after the crucifixion, he demanded to see Jesus’ hands to see the holes where the nails would have been as proof that he was looking at the same person; in this story he is also called Thomas the Believer, probably to emphasize his “conversion”. It is also worth mentioning that Thomas’ name was likely Judas as well (see Bartholomew and Jesus). I don’t know how he died, I didn’t see where/how he was martyred.
James the Greater/Apollo :: I really purposefully chose James the Lesser/James the Greater as the terms for Helo and Apollo, respectively because they’re really very similar kind of characters. Military men, straight-laced, clean-cut, good guys. Helo is a perfect “Lesser” because, let’s face it, the series (old and new) tends to revolve around Apollo. Anyway, James and John (Starbuck, in this theory) were brothers and were referred to as the “Sons of Thunder”. More on Wikipedia is actually dedicated to his sainthood than the biblical James, but it looks like he’s the patron Saint of Pilgrimages. Herod had James killed by sword.
Philip/(Twelfth Cylon) :: If this theory is close to right, then this is the guy we’re looking at. And guess what, almost nothing is known about this apostle as well. The most we can say is that Philip is most closely tied to Bartholomew. He introduces a Greek speaking community to Jesus in the Gospel of John. And he was the one who asked Jesus to see the Father, therefore giving Jesus an opportunity to teach about the Father/Son aspect of the Trinity. He’s always listed 5th among the apostles. The Christian Tradition reliably holds that Philip was married, had kids, and one of his daughters was also married. The rest of the tradition confuse this Philip with yet another Philip, so there’s not much more to be known certainly about him. He was martyred likely in Greece by being crucified upside-down alongside Bartholomew. During the crucifixion, he preached nonstop, causing the crowds to free (and thus save) Bartholomew from the cross. Philip insisted that the crowd not release him from his cross, and he died there.
Matthew/Tigh :: Matthew’s my favorite, because if you follow the traditions of the Gospels, he had to be considered the meanest, most evil piece of crap of all of the apostles. Rather a good fit with Tigh. Matthew was a tax collector. In the day of the Gospels, tax collectors were the lowest of the lowest of the people. They were almost always associated with sin, corruptibility, and generally pieces of crap. He’s also Levi in the Gospels, described as a “toll collector”. The only other things I can say about Matthew off the top of my head (and Wikipedia, not respectively) is that the Gospel of Matthew was likely not written by him, and that particular Gospel was focused on Jewish tradition and framing Christ as the Messiah within that tradition.
Jude/Natalie :: Not much is known about the new Cylon character Natalie, but we all know Jude as the namesake of St. Jude’s Hospitals, St. Jude being the patron saint of of desperate cases and lost causes. Jude is another name for Judas; the former is the Greek variant of the latter. Suffered martyrdom in Persia with our next and last apostle.
Simon/Pres. Roslin :: Three words: Simon. The. Zealot. Two more: Complete awesomeness. This Simon is referred to as Simon the Zealot to differentiate between he and Simon Peter, but most importantly, that’s what they called him, probably to his face, in the time of the Gospels. Not much else is known about him, but the name alone, I thought, was worth it.
No answers but may