• greenknight333
    Cult movie Vic? Curious as to why and to me that would be like saying the first SPider-man movie will be a cult flick..got my ticket for tomorrow night @ 2030...yeehaw!!
  • Dutch
    thank you for your review ! i loved it.
    i hope to see it in an imax this weekend.
    i hope i wont be distracted by the penis too much ;). It would be hilarious to see though, how my home country (which is religious and very conservative at parts, ISRAEL) would receive this frontal nudity assault....
  • entertainmenttodayandbeyond
    That was a good review Vic. I had that same sort of reaction to Tim Burtons Batman when I saw it 20 years ago for the first time. I liked it but it also threw me in many ways. Yet, I was drawn to it and wound up seeing it 10 times. I liked it more and more with each viewing. To this day I know its highly flawed but it still has greatness to it.

    chuck
  • arrell
    Nice review, Vic. A question first:
    Why do you discern the source material as a graphic novel rather than a comic book? I'm not bothered or anything, just wanted to hear your reasoning behind it.

    Good call on Goode's depiction of Ozymandias. It's bothered me from the beginning. Someone with a nice jaw (like Christian Bale!) would havelooked better.
  • @greenknight

    I say it'll be a cult movie because it didn't feel "mainstream" to me. But despite this I think there will be a hard core fanbase for it as time goes on.

    @arrell

    I said "graphic novel" because a lot of people get so annoyed when it's called that :-P and because that's essentially what it is - it was published as individual issues but if you ever pick up a copy you can see very clearly that it is one big novel.

    Vic
  • Tim
    Dammit - I am seriously considering seeing this tonight at the local midnight showing... work be damned! Of course... they pay me too...
  • Stephen
    Vic is there really that much of Dr.Manhattan's blue junk on screen or is it about as much as was in the graphic novel? I don't want to be the guy who suggests so all of his friends to see a movie that is filled with guys junk on the screen and they never listen to a movie suggestion of mine again lol.
  • @Stephen

    Let's just say it was definitely more than a cameo.

    Vic
  • Ken J
    Hey Vic, be careful comparing someone to Heath Ledger. I can see all of the TDK fanboys foaming at the mouth already... lol
  • Vic,

    GREAT review, man, but I wonder why you didn't go with a 3 or 3.5 star rating?

    heath
  • @Heath

    Because I'm wondering if I might have been hyper-critical while watching it and might think it's better upon a second viewing. Ideally I think I would have given it a 7.5/10 but there's no way to do that on a 1-5 scale (3 3/4 stars?) so I rounded up.

    Funny, I looked back at my review of "300" and I gave that 4 stars as well. :-P

    Vic
  • huggybear
    Hey Vic, that guy that plays Rorschach looks a bit like you :P
  • wingnut
    Vic

    Just got back from the 1215 show. I'll agree with your assessment. Without spoiling the end for the die hard fans, I was disappointed how Ozy brought the world together. I understand why Snyder would do this though being that the 'monster' in the book would take another half hour or so of movie to explain.

    Still a great movie and will go see it again.
  • Sylar's Hunger Continues
    The movie did well to capture the spirit of the print version, and in some cases go beyond. I haven't seen movie actors look so close to the original rendering since um, Speed Racer by the Wachowski Brothers.

    The moving nature of Rorschach's "face" was fascinating just shy of distracting. HEY I just realized what that fabric reminds me of--the old "Magic Window" toys where blue, black, and white sand could shift and fill in randomly.

    Was anyone else annoyed that the name was pronounced to rhyme with "horse shack" (instead of horse shock)?

    I caught a glimpse of the newspaper vendor and the comic book reader at about the time the ink blot tests tumbled out of a briefcase. (I suspect that they appeared earlier also).

    Okay, the big joke will certainly be about we now know how the "man" got in Manhattan. I believe news of this will turn some guys--I know a few who were extremely offended by the nudity in Beowulf. In Watchmen, I was far more visually puzzled by a few feet up, where a face without pupils spoke in a voice that reminded me of HAL in 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    Anyway I have a different take--the biggest phallus was Nixon's nose. Between his nose and Molech's ears, it was almost like watching an episode of Farscape.

    I'm concerned about the pacing, especially the first thirty minutes after The Comedian's demise. I'm not sure the non-linear storytelling is audience friendly.

    The theatre I saw it in (at midnight) was very large and well-filled in. Not totally packed, but you couldn't find a pair of empty seats.
  • Rorschach's name is pronounced 'Roar-shack', so the movie was right. It's not 'Roar-shock'. The American tendency to sometimes pronounce an 'a' as an 'o' is not correct. I had great amusement watching American Idol where contestants performed songs by a group they called 'Obba' - it's Abba with an 'ab' sound like 'crab' or 'grab'.
  • Psyko
    I'm scared. I really don't want to have to endure a bunch of Dr. Manhattan nudity. That's the kind of thing that can ruin a movie for me, as I'm not the type of guy that doesn't even want to see female nudity. It just doesn't seem right and I don't enjoy it. *sigh*
  • dean
    I havent seen the movie yet am goin catching a showing tonight. Ive read alot of reviews theyve been very mixed. Im shocked because the hype for this movie has been massive people said it was guna be amazing and now I'm hearing people sounding very disappointed in the picture. Theres nothing worse than getting excited over a film then being disappoined man.
  • HOMER
    having not read the novel prior to seeing this movie, i think most of the "flaws" you point out arent really an issue. i do agree with the scene where he kills the comedian was a bit super human as well as when veidt catches the bullet.

    i went there with a positive vibe, and must say that i had no problem getting the flow of the movie and what all the characters were.

    i do think that some of the music during the movie could have been a better choice.

    i think it deserves a 4.5 out of 5 and because mr manhatan should have kept his underwear on more often.
  • The film is mindblowing. I just finished reading the comic book a week ago and I loved it. I agree with Mr. Haley being the best of the lot, brilliant, as convincing as when he performed the dude in Little Children.
  • Evie
    First, let me say that I have held off reading any of the reviews prior to seeing the film.

    And now that I am starting to (yours being the first), let me say that I totally agree with you (except for the penis -- not a fan of looking at them, it just didn't bother me that it was there) on every point!

    Matter-of-fact, I think the first thing I said to my boyfriend was that I didn't like the guy they chose to play Veidt. I didn't say why, but your reason is exactly it. That body just didn't look like it had the potential to have that much power behind it.

    I also wondered if I should see it again for the reason you gave.

    Anyhoo, when ppl ask me what I thought of it, I'm glad that I can just send them a link to this review!
  • SK47
    I think showing Dr. Manhattan's nudity full frontal more in the film is Snyder's way to show Manhattan's god-like prescense. It is almost Greek-like in the sense that this is a supreme-being and supreme-beings flaunt themselves to show how pathetic we are compared to them. The David statue comes to mind when thinking of Manhattan.

    I can see why Snyder changed the ending of the film. Even though we might get the "monster" attack intellectually (who have read the book), remember that most of the viewing public might not. I can also totally see MTV making fun of it with that little runt Jack Black or the geek Michael Cera! Hell, I can imagine Stiller parading around as Manhattan and doing something vile with his junk.

    Lastly, I also have a feeling that when we see the entire extended cut this will be THE comic-book movie! So in the immortal words of Robert Downey Jr., "F Batman!"
    And Vic, I shall stick by what I said before, comic-book, not graphic novel! :D
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    OK, I'll ask: Is there something after the credits?
  • I have my tickets tonight, I am a fan of the book but no uber fan like some. I think because I have read the book I will enjoy it more, but trying to explain it to my friends who have not may be tough.
  • @huggybear

    That's not the first time I've heard I look like Jackie Earle Haley. :-P

    @Kahless

    No idea, I didn't sit through all the credits - but I doubt it.

    Vic
  • @Evie

    Thanks very much!

    Vic
  • Gary
    SK47,
    last week on At The Movies
    the hosts reviewed Watchmen and referred to the source material as a book twice .
    they also called it a novel and only called it a Graphic Novel at the end .
    I thought you might like to know that.
  • Mike D
    I think the nudity may have the effect that Snyder wanted. Sometimes you should feel uncomfortable. if the emotion is appropriate for the material than feeling uncomfortable is as important as feeling happy or sad. that might be another vote for the cult-classic status. look at anything by Waters. all his movies made me uncomfortable.
  • SK47
    To Gary,
    really? Nice!
    My whole deal is that when I hear "Graphic Novel" it seems like a better way of saying "comic book" and not scaring people who might have issues with the term comics, or funnybooks, whatever.
    Yes I understand that when taken in all together, Watchmen is like a novel. But, is comic so bad a word to say? Truthfully, I'd proudly say: Yes, I read comic-books!
    There are worse things to say you are into, for instance, being an avid follower of The Hills and thinking that it is all real!
  • There is such an interesting variety of narratives out there that explore the idea, the conceit, the mythos, and the tradition of superheroes and what they serve. Personally, I'd love to see a film made from Philip Wylie's "Gladiator," the 1930 novel that as good as kicked off the golden age of superheroes.
  • Larry Rocha
    Hey Vic,

    Appreciate your view and politely disagree with some of your points.

    I am one of those that can be considered a rabid fan of the book (comic, graphic novel, pulp story, sci-fi, etc, etc...) and was entirely prepared for a flop while hoping for greatness.

    I thought it was an awesome, awe-inspiring great movie. If I had never read the book maybe I wouldn't believe so, however, I never felt a lag and the time flew by for me.

    I loved the character choices, especially the women, both Akerman and Gugino personified Laurie and Sally perfectly. In my understanding of the book, these two women are perfect in their roles.

    For me, Manhattan was the cream of the crop, uncanny valley be damned, I was never taken out of the story by the indestructible man and his hollow, serene delivery touched with a twang of sadness.

    My wife, who has read the book as well, commented on how the movie was so successful in bringing the humanity out of the characters while remaining completely dog-loyal to the book.

    I have to agree with El Guapo's assessment, the movie is better than the book in many ways. Uh-oh, unpardonable sin committed!

    I loved this movie and absolutely cannot wait to view the extended versions as I could notice where the cuts were made for this theatrical run.

    Anyway, it completely resonated with me and will be returning for round two tonight on IMAX.

    Hope this helps anyone worried, for as a huge fan of the novel, I LOVED WATCHMEN.
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