Watchmen Producer Speaks Out About Lawsuit

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Watchmen producer Lloyd Levin has delivered an exclusive letter to the blog Motion Captured, speaking out about the ongoing lawsuit between Warner Bros. and Fox over the rights to Watchmen.

Surprisingly, the letter isn’t some attempt to rally fan support, or gain legal ground, but rather a passionate and unflinching pronouncement of all that Levin thinks is wrong with the nature of this suit. If you are a Watchmen fan, you need to read it.

[WARNING: The letter is pretty long. For those who don't have the time on their hands, I've included a quick-read summary. Those who want to read the letter in its entirety, you can skip on down to the quoted text further down below.]

SUMMARY: Levin examines the question of “who is right?” in this lawsuit from a moral standpoint, rather than a legal one. He reminds readers that he and fellow Watchmen producer Larry Gordon (who Fox is claiming is at fault in all this) have been trying to get Watchmen into theaters intact, as God, Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons intended, for a decade and a half now.

He then hints at the multitude of Hollywood studios, big-name directors and A-list stars who all had Watchmen land in their laps at one point in time or another and just as quickly gave the project a fat thumbs-down, calling it everything from “unfilmable,” to “one of the most unintelligible pieces of shit they had read in years.” To hammer the point, Levin alleges that the latest incarnation of Watchmen actually landed on the desks of both Fox and Warner Bros. at the same time. While Warner Bros. felt wary, but curious, Fox, according to Levin, flat-out passed on the project.

Finally, to stroke the hand that feeds him, Levin concludes the letter by lauding Warner Bros. for their “ballsy” move to support a film that would run three hours, have a hard R-rating, no major stars on the marquee, an unknown director (this was before Snyder earned clout for 300), additional major filming and production for all those DVD extras, and a tremendous budget to pull it all off.

And that’s about it. Take a look at the letter. It’s worth the read.

THE LETTER:

“Watchmen. A producer’s perspective.

An open letter.

Who is right? In the Watchmen dispute between Warner Brothers and Fox that question is being discussed, analyzed, argued, tried and ruled on in a court of law. That’s one way to answer the question – It is a fallback position in our society for parties in conflict to resolve disputes. And there are teams of lawyers and a highly regarded Federal Judge trying to do just that, which obviates any contribution I could make towards answering the “who is right” question within a legal context. But after 15 plus years of involvement in the project, and a decade more than that working in the movie business, I have another perspective, a personal perspective that I believe important to have on the public record.

No one is more keenly aware of the irony of this dispute than Larry Gordon and I who have been trying to get this movie made for many years. There’s a list of people who have rejected the viability of a movie based on Alan Moore and Dave Gibbon’s classic graphic novel that reads like a who’s who of Hollywood.

We’ve been told the graphic novel is unfilmable.

After 9/11 some felt the story’s themes were too close to reality ever to be palatable to a mainstream audience.

There were those who considered the project but who wished it were somehow different: Could it be a buddy movie, or a team-up movie or could it focus on one main character; did it have to be so dark; did so many people have to die; could it be stripped of its flashback structure; could storylines be eliminated; could new storylines be invented; did it have to be so long; could the blue guy put clothes on… The list of dissatisfactions for what Watchmen is was as endless as the list of suggestions to make it something it never was.

Also endless are the list of studio rejections we accrued over the years. Larry and I developed screenplays at five different studios. We had two false starts in production on the movie. We were involved with prominent and commercial directors. Big name stars were interested. In one instance hundreds of people were employed, sets were being built – An A-list director and top artists in the industry were given their walking papers when the studio financing the movie lost faith.

After all these years of rejection, this is the same project, the same movie, over which two studios are now spending millions of dollars contesting ownership. Irony indeed, and then some.

Through the years, inverse of the lack of studio faith has been the passionate belief by many many individuals – movie professionals who were also passionate fans of the graphic novel – who, yes, wanted to work on the film, but more for reasons of just wanting to see the movie get made, to see this movie get made and made right, donated their time and talent to help push the film forward: Writers gave us free screenplay drafts; conceptual art was supplied by illustrators, tests were performed gratis by highly respected actors and helped along and put together by editors, designers, prop makers and vfx artists; we were the recipients of donated studio and work space, lighting and camera equipment. Another irony, given the commercial stakes implied by the pitched legal dispute between Fox and Warners, is that for years Watchmen has been a project that has survived on the fumes of whatever could be begged, borrowed and stolen – A charity case for all intents and purposes. None of that effort, none of that passion and emotional involvement, is considered in the framework of this legal dispute.

From my point of view, the flashpoint of this dispute, came in late spring of 2005. Both Fox and Warner Brothers were offered the chance to make Watchmen. They were submitted the same package, at the same time. It included a cover letter describing the project and its history, budget information, a screenplay, the graphic novel, and it made mention that a top director was involved.

And it’s at this point, where the response from both parties could not have been more radically different.

The response we got from Fox was a flat “pass.” That’s it. An internal Fox email documents that executives there felt the script was one of the most unintelligible pieces of shit they had read in years. Conversely, Warner Brothers called us after having read the script and said they were interested in the movie – yes, they were unsure of the screenplay, and had many questions, but wanted to set a meeting to discuss the project, which they promptly did. Did anyone at Fox ask to meet on the movie? No. Did anyone at Fox express any interest in the movie? No. Express even the slightest interest in the movie? Or the graphic novel? No.

From there, the executives at Warner Brothers, who weren’t yet completely comfortable with the movie, made a deal to acquire the movie rights and we all started to creatively explore the possibility of making Watchmen. We discussed creative approaches and started offering the movie to directors, our former director having moved on by then. After a few director submissions, Zack Snyder came onboard, well before the release of his movie 300. In fact, well before its completion. This was a gut, creative call by Larry, me and the studio… Zack didn’t have a huge commercial track record, yet we all felt he was the right guy for the movie.

Warner Brothers continued to support, both financially and creatively, the development of the movie. And eventually, after over a year of work, they agreed to make the film, based on a script that, for what it’s worth, was by and large very similar to the one Fox initially read and deemed an unintelligible piece of shit.

Now here’s the part that has to be fully appreciated, if for nothing more than providing insight into producing movies in Hollywood: The Watchmen script was way above the norm in length, near 150 pages, meaning the film could clock in at close to 3 hours, the movie would not only be R rated but a hard R – for graphic violence and explicit sex – would feature no stars, and had a budget north of $100M. We also asked Warner Brothers to support an additional 1 to 1.5 hours of content incurring additional cost that would tie in with the movie but only be featured in DVD iterations of the film. Warners supported the whole package and I cannot begin to emphasize how ballsy and unprecedented a move this was on the part of a major Hollywood studio. Unheard of. And would another studio in Hollywood, let alone a studio that didn’t show one shred of interest in the movie, not one, have taken such a risk? Would they ever have made such a commitment, a commitment to a film that defied all conventional wisdom?

Only the executives at Fox can answer that question. But if they were to be honest, their answer would have to be “No.”

Shouldn’t Warner Brothers be entitled to the spoils – if any — of the risk they took in supporting and making Watchmen? Should Fox have any claim on something they could have had but chose to neither support nor show any interest in?

Look at it another way… One reason the movie was made was because Warner Brothers spent the time, effort and money to engage with and develop the project. If Watchmen was at Fox the decision to make the movie would never have been made because there was no interest in moving forward with the project.

Does a film studio have the right to stand in the way of an artistic endeavor and determine that it shouldn’t exist? If the project had been sequestered at Fox, if Fox had any say in the matter, Watchmen simply wouldn’t exist today, and there would be no film for Fox to lay claim on. It seems beyond cynical for the studio to claim ownership at this point.

By his own admission, Judge Feess is faced with an extremely complex legal case, with a contradictory contractual history, making it difficult to ascertain what is legally right. Are there circumstances here that are more meaningful, which shed light on what is ultimately just, to be taken into account when assessing who is right? In this case, what is morally right, beyond the minutiae of decades-old contractual semantics, seems clear cut.

For the sake of the artists involved, for the hundreds of people, executives and filmmakers, actors and crew, who invested their time, their money, and dedicated a good portion of their lives in order to bring this extraordinary project to life, the question of what is right is clear and unambiguous – Fox should stand down with its claim.

My father, who was a lawyer and a stickler for the minutiae of the law, was always quick to teach me that the determination of what is right and wrong was not the sole purview of the courts. I bet someone at Fox had a parent like mine who instilled the same sense of fairness and justice in them.

Lloyd Levin”

I have agreed with Levin’s point from the very beginning. No matter what Fox says in that court room; no matter what verdict the judge hands down in the next few weeks, any rational being must realize that Fox had ample time to drop the hammer on Warner Bros., long before this eleventh hour pandemonium. What, did they just learn about the movie when the trailer started circulating?

Truthfully I’m only half-kidding about that. I do in fact believe that this is clear case of “Little Red Hen” syndrome: no studio wanted to get their hands dirty and take a risk on Watchmen, and now that there is so much good buzz and the movie is looking like it’s going to do gangbusters business–oh now all these studio sharks want to eat off it!

I’m getting overly excited. I turn the issue over to you, the people, to decide. How does Lloyd Levin’s letter strike you? Feeling any different about the Watchmen lawsuit?

Source: Big thanks to Motion Captured!

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  1. according to Nikki Finke, WB wanted the January 20th ruling moved up to monday,
    but while the judge is sticking to the 20th
    Fox and WB have asked for a postponement in regards to the question of moving the date up .
    SETTLEMENT TALKS HAVE BEGUN!
    And they want a chance to work it out .

  2. “By his own admission, Judge Feess is faced with an extremely complex legal case, with a contradictory contractual history, making it difficult to ascertain what is legally right. Are there circumstances here that are more meaningful, which shed light on what is ultimately just, to be taken into account when assessing who is right? In this case, what is morally right, beyond the minutiae of decades-old contractual semantics, seems clear cut.”

    Unfortunately, if fair or not, what is morally right and just is not always legal or legally bound by an individual’s private sense of morality..Bottom line is that if FOX didn’t have a LEGAL claim to the rights of this film then the judge would have leaned his judgement to show such a case..However the judge did not and we have the resultant quagmire both studios are mired in…

    I am not sure I want to even see this film anymore.. :(

  3. @Greenknight

    Yo, when I look over at you in the theater, after the end credits roll, and ask you, “was it worth it?” I guarantee your response is going to be: “HELL yes!”

  4. @ ppnkof

    You are probably right and I’m sure it’s just sour grapes for me right now anyhow..been waiting 20 years to see this so one little litigation is probably not going to stop me from seeing it sooner or later..hopefully sooner but this is getting old..All this press will probably draw a lot more people to see the film that ordinarily would not have seen it

  5. @greenknight

    If you’ve been waiting for the movie for 20 years then you may very well be disappointed due to your expectations.

    Then again, I’d been waiting my whole life for an Iron Man movie and that sucker lived up to mine just fine. :-P

    Vic

  6. Yeah Vic I may be disappointed by the theatrical version but I’m betting the driector’s cut with the Black Freighter storyline incorporated will be the one I have been waiting 20 years for..Let’s hope this does for me what Iron Man did for you!!

  7. First, I’d like to say that I thought it was a very good, well-articulated letter and I felt the anguish of this artist who is trying to give birth to this child that he helped create. Second, this is FOX that we are talking about. Have you seen this guy named o’reilly on it?!? Talk about fair and balanced!! Fox has WB over a barrel and they will take the lion’s share of the profits from this movie. However, if they are stupid enough not to allow the movie to be released, the backlash of some verrrryy pissed off fans will be waaaaaaay more than they can handle. I personally will never watch another Fox show or movie in my lifetime. Sorry Simpsons, but you work for jackasses…

  8. At least now we all know why it’s called FOX… Watchmen is just another juicy Chicken :(
    I couldn’t agree more with Lloyd.
    Maybe it’s not to late for WB and Fox to compromise on a settlement, the fans just want to see the d@mn movie!

  9. Yet, I sit here watching the Eagles Giants game and see Watchment trailers….hrrrmmmm. Wonder why they would allow trailers to be viewed on Fox when the decision hasn’t been made.

  10. Too many beers during the game…I obviously meant Watchmen vs watchment.

  11. This is really just irritaing now. At this point I really dont care who gets what in this but I agree with SilverEagle that people just wanna see the d@mn movie! lol

  12. Hopefully, I will never obtain the ability to enjoy something I’ve paid someone other than it’s creator for.

    If the court’s decision should rule against WB, wherein FOX gets the spoils–I won’t even pirate the film. FOX has become such a “hit-and-miss” company that all they can do now is reach out and take.

    Rev

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