UPDATE: ‘Walking Dead’ Star Admits Lori Never Redeems Herself
While The Walking Dead season 2 may have ended with viewers clamoring for season 3, there were still problems that fans had with the past season of the series. Specifically one person: Lori (Sarah Wayne Callies).
Speaking to the press following The Walking Dead season 2 finale, executive producer Glen Mazzara discussed the fans’ not-so-positive opinion of Lori Grimes, as well as what they plan to do with her and Rick’s relationship next season.
Here’s what Mazzara had to say:
I think Lori is a compelling, interesting character. I think she is realistic in a lot of ways and she’s certainly a character that people are talking about. So I don’t find her irritating.
I think it’s interesting that people are so focused on her and I think the work ahead of that is to see where the – in Season 3, we really have to look at the Rick, Lori relationship and what it means that, you know, she put Rick and Shane in motion to try to kill each other. So that’s an interesting place to start and we’ll certainly examine that character.
But, you know, I don’t know if we really need to start creating false [story] beats to make her more likeable. That’s not part of the plan.
Whether you love her or hate her (or really hate her), there’s certainly a pronounced divide in the series fan base when it comes to Lori. As the survivors move to the prison (with the Governor), Rick and Lori’s relationship will be put to the test. And while there’s no way to know for sure if Lori will become less “annoying” as The Walking Dead season 3 progresses, she certainly does have intriguing storylines coming up.
Continuing, Mazzara touched upon the fans’ criticism of Rick and Lori being terrible parents and how they’re unable to keep track of their son Carl:
There have been scenes where he’s sitting under a tree, he’s whittling and the kid is obviously bored and trying to find out what else is going on in this camp.
I don’t know if it’s plausible that he would always be within her eye line or wouldn’t he, like most boys, try to give mom the slip and go out there and get in trouble? That feels plausible to me. If it means that she’s a horrible parent, or Rick’s a horrible parent, well, it feels real to me.
So I hear that criticism but it kind of feels like it’s not really thinking it through to the way we are. It makes sense to us and if people don’t like it, well, then we’ll have Lori lock him in a cell when we get to the prison and won’t have any story for that character. So I don’t know what else to do. We’re trying to tell interesting stories here, you know.
While you may not agree with what Mazzara has to say, you can’t deny that he has certainly thought out both issues and made an honest effort to justify his position.
For The Walking Dead, season 2 was a necessary progressor to the greater overall story. Sure, there are a few storylines that felt a bit long, and a farm isn’t exactly the most compelling visual setting, but it was needed in order to get the characters to the place they currently are.
And with the Governor and Michonne coming up next season – not to mention a wonderful prison environment – The Walking Dead season 3 may very well be the best season of the series so far.
…of course, for some, that may be dependent on whether or not they lock Carl up in a cell.
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The Walking Dead season 3 premieres October 2012
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Im glad shes gone very shady character
Simply put, this whole seeing ‘ghost Lori’ is overplayed and stupid. Please stop doing it- why keep paying someone a salary to show up and annoy me?
I recently just became a huge fan of the series walking dead. First of, when the season began in 2010 I thought it was another reality show similar to Survivor, lol, which I am not a huge fan of Survivor. All I saw were people with tents etc. and talking about surviving etc. so I did not even continued watching the episodes because it looked boring. Unbeknownst that it was a show about dead people who died or turned into zombies. I am a huge fan of Zombie movies, especially the classic The Night of the Living Dead. I saw that movie when I was in elementary school 20 years ago. After that movie I wanted more of it,,,and others tried to imitate but couldnt compare,,UNTIL NOW! My kids and husband tried to convince me that it wasnt a Survivor show and to watch an episode to its full hour. Well I did, this year November 2012. AND OMG.,, I fell inlove with the show. And also fell inluv with RICK GRIMES,,hahaha,,who I found out was British,,,and my husband is also british and Rick Grimes reminds me of my husband. hahaha! I LUV BRITISH MEN and finding out that RICK GRIMES is British made me a WALKING DEAD ADDICT. I was by my kids to understand the whole Walking Dead saga I would need to watch it from the beginning of the series. Low and behold , I found out Walking Dead Season 1 and 2 was available on Netflix. OMG, I didnt have a life for the past 3 days,, hahaha, trying to catch up on this BRILLIANT WICKED SHOW that i have been waiting for ALL MY LIFE after THe Night Of the Living Dead! I got glued to Netflix and I thank Netflix first of for having the series. I understand the whole saga now and it’s unbelievable how this show made it feel sooo real! I know people out there might think and tell me to get a life! Hey this is life, watching the Walking Dead. I feel so connected to this show. I am not saying that I am fighting off dead people but the dead people signifies the evil that we face in this life. And if you are not Strong enough to fight the evil in your life then you might as well “TURN” lol. Anyhow, I luv Rick Grimes and what he stands for in the show. He is ultimately tested on all directions, from good and evil. And I would probably stop watching the show if he is killed of! PLZZZZZZZZZZ DONT KILL HIM OFF! He is like the root of the show, if he is killed off then the show will die off too! TRUST ME ON THAT! My second best choice is Darryl, OMG he is like the roughed up RICK GRIMES! lol,,I know they tried to roughen Rick Grimes but he still looked classy and all-together. Darryl on the other hand is such a Bad Ass in a Good Way! And hope he sticks around for a long time too! PLZZZZZZZZZ! lol,,,in regards to Lori dying, as much as I wanted her out of the Picture, so Rick Grimes can have no woman hugging him etc, since i was so jealous of her being Rick Grimes wife haha,,,I dont think it was right to kill her off, well not yet anyways or maybe never! Lori should have died with the Walkers getting her and being bitten and then the walkers eat off the baby! I know that sounds cruel but that is more realistic. Why did the show have mercy on her death? Was it favoritism? She should have went like the rest! NO mercy! The audience would have had more compassionate for her and the baby if the walkers got her! Her death had no meaning because it was an obvious scenario giving birth under the circumstances,,,and the boy shooting her own mom,,well thats not right! Even if it’s to save herself from turning! Her death was so predictable! I knew that was going to happen before it even happened! I even told that to my kids! I said OMG she is going to give birth and die as a result! No they should have kept her on for awhile and had her have roles where fans could love her and then kill her off! At least if they have done that for the fans to love her more instead of hating her then the fans can appreciate what she has done for the group. Instead now that she is gone, everyone is saying they are glad she is gone, because she did this , and she did that! bla bla bla! Anyways,,,back to RICK GRIMES, lol,, yes plzzz dont kill him off! And what is the story with the new baby? Is this a foreshadowing that there will be a new beginning, new life? I thought at first it would be something that the fans can appreciate and that there is hope at last! But then, a new baby in the group? Like, you think this baby would be helpful? It will just drag them down and a great burden to the group! They have enough burden already to have to take care of a baby that no one knows who the father? AHA! is this what the future will foretell, who the father will be! What if Rick Grimes find out that it’s not his, will he kill the baby?? HMMM. Another characters I luv being togehter is GLEN AND MAGGIE! Of all the characters that deserve a happy life would be Glen. And Glen with Maggie was the ULTIMATE PRIZE and deserving of what he had to go through from the beginning! Wow,,he really did a gangnam- style of the walking dead! hahahaha! Plzzz dont kill off Maggie and Glen,,,that show would be foolish if they do so! Another character that I have grown to luv is Andrea! Although, I watched first the third episode of season 3 first, I didnt know that Andrea was there from the beginning of the season…and I thought she was a right cow! But then when I started to watch from the beginning, thanks to Netflix, I understand and get where Andrea is coming from. With her losing her sister to a walker, and being separated from the group, I really feel she deserves to stay for a long while too! Last but not least Shane’s character shouldn’t have been killed off! But then again, if he didnt get killed off then we dont know who the leader would be? If it’s Rick or Shane. And as they say in cooking, too many chefs in the kitchen will spoil the broth! To make my comments to an end,,, i would like to say, I am so pleased with the show and how they have made this series like The Night of the Living Dead! I am also glad that I am now caught up with the Series ,,again thanks to Netflix and I am looking forward to the Episodes in February! But Again I would like the show to focus more on the Zombies and how the people in the show would handle them like in the season 1 and 2,,instead of the characters being tested on their Egos!
Seriously way to long of a comment and pretty stupid to..
Ironic – You’re calling someone else stupid when you can’t even spell “too”?
Are you a heavy set person?
That was my question!
AHHH, now I miss her. Somehow I’ve developed a twisted attachment to the sometimes b****. But I came to understand she was only misunderstood. It’s tough times they’re living in, and it’s times such as those bad qualities surface. Everyone has ‘em!
RIP Lori, I really did love you after all.
I thought Lori was a good character
i think lori really pisses off women because of her complete reliance on men and total self-absorbtion. i’m in the middle of the 2nd season and actually came online to see if i was the only person having this completely adverse reaction to her. i swear, if i could lean into the screen and kill her myself i most certainly would…..now i can survive the rest of the series peacefully knowing that she’s gone….
Well, I understand her reliance on the more combative men, because her first responsibility is to her children. But she didn’t make a mistake, with Shane; [a mistake is something that you didn't mean to do], LORI selfishly-intentionally slept with Shane, before allowing a proper mourning period for Rick! Conversely, Rick is STILL in mourning over her, however Rick consistently ignores his first responsibility in favor of being leader of the group… so let’s see how long he allows before gets laid. Provided CARL really did put a bullet in her head after she died or maybe he stashed her body somewhere, like the Governor did with PENNY! Humm! Anyway Lori sucks.
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you took the words right out of my mouth @chinos…
Lori was fine holy s***! The show is about zombies and all of you are focused on one girl who makes you a little mad? Forget it.
Dude the zombies are the third side dish in this cluster f**k, theirs more arguing, planing bad ideas, more arguing, bad ideas with out arguing, arguing about bad decisions that were made but already argued about, this TV show is just about bad British actors arguing and zombies show up… Sometimes.
Lori can be a little annoying, but I still like her. She’s very realistic. The one who really annoys the bejezus out of me is Andrea. Somebody shoot her already!!
I’m glad Lori popped in. I hope she’ll be back. Her character was interesting. I can think of a few useless people to leave like hershal. And I find Meryl annoying. Hopefully he’ll be gone. I hope Beth doesn’t leave but she wasn’t seen much on the show as it is. Beth hasn’t done much and should be able to do more than babysit.
I don’t think I’ve ever yelled stupid b**** before when watching a tv show by my own. But with walking dead I’ve done so on numerous occasions. All thanks to Andrea and Lori.
It’s nice to know that I’m not the only one that finds Andrea and Lori utterly annoying. I have never yelled stupid B- so much at my television in my life.
Her husband is laying in a hospital bed in a coma and she leaves him there when the zombie’s take over? Fine, she thinks her husband is dead. So she screws his best friend? For, what? Comfort? Bull. Husband’s best friend should be like your brother or a really annoying person you can’t stand to be in the same room with. Ugh. And she only waited about a month before she started fornicating with her husbands best friend. Jeez. Wonderful and loving wife my ass.
I understand her aligning herself with the stronger, alpha male. That’s basic survival and hey, it’s smart. That doesn’t however mean you have to screw them.
If a zombie apocolypse actually happened you can be damned certain both of my kids would be within MY sight, because I wouldn’t trust anyone else to watch them besides their dad.
On a side note. I love how realistic they have made this show look. My brother can’t watch certain parts for fear of throwing up. Which is quite funny because he can stomach a lot.
Love the show, get rid of the stupid people. They don’t survive.
@Jenny Mae. Yeah, but when a show triggers those kind of reactions it only show it’s a well written show. Although I completly agree with you, I kinda forgave Lori for fornicating with Shane, but when she went and had that talk to him when he was at the mill I almost snapped.
Michonne is my favorite amongst the girls. I’m guessing I would acquire a samurai sword as well if the world would be run over by zombies.
Say a show is good because it causes you to have a reaction like that is say human Centipede was good because it made you Cringe… Really the Situations these people put themselves in is utterly stupefying, instead of ppl struggling in a dangerous world, all you see is ppl struggling in their own bad Decisions that could get them killed.
Ppl didn’t like Die Hard because John put him self is danger by choice he did it out of necessity, the bad guys crashed his party and he over came it, this show just is bad drama bullsh** Disguised with good zombie acting and make up artists that can do their jobs with the bad British LOST Wannabes.
I’m surprise this isn’t moving on by now. Will they kill off Andrea? I wouldn’t miss her but it’s interesting where she end up now. I was sure they would of had their war between the prison and woodbury people by now. 2 more episode? Really? Ugh. Now I have to wait how long b4 these show comes back on? Ugh! nOOOOOO! I dislike waiting!:( Anyways I hope for a great seasonal ending.
This show has so far disappointed me, the bad gun handling AKA Rick and his python revolver waving it around and flagging everyone wile he gives pointless speeches, the way it jumps back and forth from the prison to Woodbury, the way it makes you care very little about the caricatures if not at any. I was hopping for more out of this series, less TV drama, bad acting, whining and more story, more plot… I don’t know it just feels like TV is just throwing something at the wall and seeing what sticks with a genre that I’m a very big fan of, I love zombie movies… Good ones like Remero’s night of the living dead, dawn of the dead, and Robert Kerman does a outrages job on his Comic book but this falls so shot it tripped at the starting line, being a real zombie fan I can say this with out being labeled as a hater because I really wanted to care about this show and I gave it a chance and showed my support with my money, but so far it just does a bang up job of making me hate it even more.
Your comment disappointed me. Did you even bother to watch season 1 and 2? I certainly feel an attachment to many of the characters, but I could see how you would feel less intrigued if you had jumped at season 3 before glancing at the others.
If you had, in fact, watched the preceding seasons, then fine. You’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how ridiculous it is.
This show has so far disappointed me, the bad gun handling AKA Rick and his python revolver waving it around and flagging everyone wile he gives pointless speeches, the way it jumps back and forth from the prison to Woodbury, the way it makes you care very little about the caricatures if not at any. I was hopping for more out of this series, less TV drama, bad acting, whining and more story, more plot… I don’t know it just feels like TV is just throwing something at the wall and seeing what sticks with a genre that I’m a very big fan of, I love zombie movies… Good ones like Remero’s night of the living dead, dawn of the dead, and Robert Kerman does a outrages job on his Comic book but this falls so shot it tripped at the starting line, being a real zombie fan I can say this with out being labeled as a hater because I really wanted to care about this show.
This show has so far disappointed me, the bad gun handling AKA Rick and his python revolver waving it around and flagging everyone wile he gives pointless speeches, the way it jumps back and forth from the prison to Woodbury, the way it makes you care very little about the caricatures if not at any. I was hopping for more out of this series, less TV drama, bad acting, whining and more story, more plot… I don’t know it just feels like TV is just throwing something at the wall and seeing what sticks with a genre that I’m a very big fan of, I love zombie movies, Good ones like Remero’s night of the living dead, dawn of the dead, and Robert Kerman does a outrages job on his Comic book, being a real zombie fan I can say this with out being labeled as a hater because I really wanted to care about this show.
Why would they kill louri yeah sure she wasn’t the best mom or whatever but still…i cried
It was nice seeing Lori on the show even though it was small parts and she didn’t talk. A memory would do more than just stand there looking at you. They could of had flashbacks with her acting out sometime fun with herself, rick and or their son. That’s what made me think she was a ghost cause she didn’t do anything like a flashback/memory would. Once Lori knew her husband was alive she was mad at Shane for making her think he was dead. And she didn’t do anymore romance with Shane so she shouldn’t be getting a bad rap. She did what a lot of people might have done in that particular situation. She was very sad and some people just need closeness with someone they know to help them deal with a lost. We see this all the time in tv shows and movies. It’s no different in her case. And she probably was thinking they might not survive long either so
what the heck. I don’t think she was being insensitive only being human. I hope they’ll do some flashbacks with her in Ricks mind. It was great seeing Carl wanting that pic of all 3 of them.
Get rid of Carl asap . Worst actor and dialogue in a long as time .
Oh please KILL Andrea!!! She is the worst character of all! Why kill Lori? She might be a bad parent but she still have a good heart! Andrea on the other hand, I just have HATE her character! She need to get killer. After all, she did tried to killed herself before! So many people in the episode try to save her dump ass but her attitude is horrible and she freak stupid thinking she IS so tough! Come on kill this b**** Andrea!!!
To say she is a bad person, is one thing. To say she is a bad character- is a whole different ballpark. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think you are missing the entire point of her character. To say Andrea doesn’t have a good heart when she tries to save everyone in Woodbury in the Prison- including sticking behind to try and do so, is incredibly unintelligible. She’s not there for the Governor. She’s there for the hope in humanity and everyone else in the town. I would really like to see you try and wriggle out of a tree being pinned down by three zoms.
Very true
Rick is an idealistic stupid person. He is the worst main character I’ve ever seen. Hes is not a hero. He is a stupid person with a police uniform and a gun.
Lori is just stupid and she has nothing to do than washing clothes and other “clean house” things.
They are just a bunch of stupid people trying to survive. And the story is long, very long. And nothing happens.
The actors are terrible. I would like to see just one tear in Lori’s or Rick’s face.
I agree, the fact that Rick is a main Character that is Supposed to have a moral compass is this zombie apocalypse but is no different then the governor(just crazier) is mind boggling, the comic showed a man that was more human, more relatable, that you could see was struggling in this world gone mad, but this Rick is a MadMan gone crazy with power.
I just wish ppl could see threw the fact it has Zombies in it and want something that reflects their beloved Genre with better taste then this steaming heap of bad acting riding on the Coattails of zombie fans.
The walking dead is to TRUE zombie fans what twilight was to true vampire fans.
I liked Lori. I think Rick is the one being the arse to her. And Carl the little turd. He should do as he is told and STAY IN THE HOUSE. You honestly can’t blame Lori OR Rick for him taking off.
Hmm, look I don’t have kids, but perhaps Carl, and many children his age, may need more direction than ‘go entertain yourself, but make sure you stay in the house’. I mean sure – disciplining undesired behaviour, but perhaps something like ‘Carl go help with the food’ or ‘Carl can you give me a hand with the dishes’ might be a better way to occupy his time than telling him to play in a house that he already spends pretty much 24/7 in. Also these specific activities would define: the carer responsible for him; a definite beginning and end to the activity; teach him valuable skills and responsibility; and give him a feeling that he’s actually contributing to the group without having to shoot people (walkers).
I agree with you on that, witch in regard for the other comments about it not being Rick or Lori’s falt, just proves it really is bad parenting on both their part, I feel as if I’m watching an episode of teen mom. Ricks to busy doing a lousy job trying to play hero and Lori’s to busy b**** about it, instead of focusing on the drama, their hole marriage looks forced. I just wish the writers of the The Walking Dead were good at doing their jobs and at lest trying to make be believe this is a believable story and not just waving a zombie at me like every time I start to think this is a load of horse s***
As Ygritte would say, you know nothing Dan.
Know nothing about zombies, kids or the walking dead? Because I assure you I do b****.
Know nothing about zombies, kids or the walking dead? Because I assure you I do ass