‘The Walking Dead’ Season 3 Finale Review – No One Makes it Alone

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It’s safe to say that since the introduction of the Governor, The Walking Dead season 3 has been leading up to a climactic showdown between Philip’s well-armed citizen soldiers and Rick’s group of bedraggled survivors back at the prison.

At the end of last week’s ‘This Sorrowful Life,’ Rick gave everyone at the prison the opportunity to decide whether or not their new home was worth fighting (and probably dying) for, or if they’d simply be better off by cutting their losses and moving on down the road – maybe move in with Morgan and help him build his zombie obstacle course.

Surprisingly, The Walking Dead opted out of spending a significant portion of the season finale showing democracy in action and instead went the bait-and-switch route by insinuating that the group had decided the relative, yet creepy security provided them by the mostly-sturdy walls of the prison were not worth dying over. Carl was seen packing up his belongings and shrugging off his father’s attempts at conversation, leading us to believe that perhaps the vote didn’t go his way and despite his child-soldier protestations, the group was headed for the road once more.

But, of course, that’s not what happened, and it’s also not the only bait-and-switch ‘Welcome to the Tombs’ has to offer.

Chad Coleman and Sonequa Martin Green in The Walking Dead Welcome to the Tombs The Walking Dead Season 3 Finale Review – No One Makes it Alone

Early on, Philip is seen giving someone a brutal beating, which, considering it plays out from the POV of the victim, the audience may initially believe it to be Andrea – who was last seen wide-eyed and shackled in Philip’s dental/torture chair. Regardless how problematic and inconsistent her character had become, it’s hard to believe anyone was looking forward to an episode wherein the Governor actually tortures Andrea, and thankfully, the writers’ better judgment won out and no such event occurred. Instead, Philip turns on Milton for setting fire to the walkers and then leaves him to die in the same room as the shackled Andrea.

Ultimately, this would prove to seal Andrea and Milton’s fate. As the two of them wait for the grievously injured Milton to expire, he alerts Andrea to the pair of pliers he stashed before the Governor did him in. It’s as tense a scene as it is maddeningly simplistic, which, oddly enough, when coupled with the is-he-still-breathing check-ins on Milton manages to actually heighten the suspense, if not the desire for the viewer to yell at their television.

The Andrea and Milton situation plays out over the course of the entire episode, which eventually ends up in the most likely place: Milton goes full-zombie and attacks Andrea just as she frees herself. There’s a moment where the viewer is left to wonder exactly what happened. Did Milton chow down on Andrea, or did she manage to get the better of him? As it turns out, it’s a bit of both. Andrea suffers an undead Milton-bite and although she’s able to dispatch the zombie, it’s basically curtains for another character that certainly had her fair share of detractors, recently.

And it’s here that The Walking Dead is able to play to its strengths. Much as the series did with last week’s farewell to Merle, and earlier in the season with the deaths of Lori and T-Dog, the characters seem to be given a better shake in death than they ever were while they were still drawing breath.

Andrew Lincoln in The Walking Dead Welcome to the Tombs The Walking Dead Season 3 Finale Review – No One Makes it Alone

Which brings the discussion back around to the Governor – another potentially strong character who was mostly a ball of inconsistent characterization and questionable motivations this season. And here in ‘Welcome to the Tombs,’ he seems to exist solely to serve the plot rather than develop into a more interesting character.

As far as climactic battles are concerned, there’s no doubt the one that’d been hinted at during the season’s various time-filling episodes would have been considered serious fan service. But instead, the finale decided to go in a different direction by watching as Philip essentially self-destructs; first getting his people caught in a trap set by Rick and Co., and then gunning all but one of them down after they tuck tail and run.

While this sadly leaves the door wide open for the Governor to return, it also allowed for a somewhat refreshingly optimistic turn of events that, although it made Rick look absurdly fickle yet again, brought out an interesting ideological conflict between him and Carl.

In the end ‘Welcome to the Tombs’ worked out in much the same way as ‘This Sorrowful Life’ and, to a certain degree, like season 3 as a whole. About half of the season (mostly the pre-hiatus portion aside from ‘Clear‘) was fairly strong, but those moments were mostly undone by muddied characterizations and a drawn-out conflict that, as we see here, didn’t really deliver.

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The Walking Dead will return for season 4 in the fall of 2013 on AMC.

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  1. It is a bit ironic that the AMC post at the top of the page says “It’s safe to say that since the introduction of the Governor, The Walking Dead season 3 has been leading up to a climactic showdown between Philip’s well-armed citizen soldiers”,seeing as how not one of those “well-armed citizen soldiers” managed to get even one shot off at One Eye the Magic Governor as he was killing them. Really? And none of the men he was with were concerned that the Governor was screwing up the already screwed up female to male ratio by killing the women in that group either!?!?! And the bogus way that they killed off Andrea? Really? This woman who could kill a walker with a freaking pencil,could not find a way to stab that walker in its eye with those pliers!?! When that one girl (the youngest one) was killing walkers with a blunt ended pole through a fence,that poked right through those walkers like butter. So ultimately Andrea kills herself,as was her plan at the CDC!?!? Really!?!?! The writers really dropped the ball on this one. This always happens to a good series around the third season mark. The witters take a big steamy dump all over the script and don’t even try any more. Kind of like Battle Star Galactica in its last season. Where the writers decided to make every one a God damned cylon,and they were all really the people who seeded our planet by doinking the neanderthal man. I could have thought up ten different ways to off Andrea that would have been better. 1 How about a nice quick aneurism? All would be well,and she would just drop dead in front of the whole group. Leaving them with their jaws dropped open. 2 Or a bee sting,and her head and neck swell up like a big balloon and she dies of affixation because she turns out to be highly allergic to the insect. 3 She gets away from the walker in the torture room,and not knowing the Governor is no longer in power,flees for her life,and as she does so,she does not see the airplane landing in the open field that she is running through,and she gets shredded by the Cessna’s single prop propeller. 4 She goes to open an old can biscuits,but because of its age the yeast in side has expanded so the can explodes,shooting out one of the disks into her jugular that makes her bleed out. 5 She befriends some one out on the road who tells her to hold his snake,at first she is reluctant,but he assures her it is just a Python. Then to Andreas horror,he admits that before the walkers came,that it was his dream to work at a zoo,and that he applied and was rejected seventeen times because he suffers from some rare disease that does not let his distinguish the differences in animal species. And too late does Andrea find out that she is in reality holding a deadly black mamba. 6 Carl shoots her in the head because he does not trust that she will keep secret that fact that he still wets the bed. 7 She is back at the prison with the group playing baseball,when a pop fly hits her in her temple killing her instantly. 8 Some how she has found Excalibur,the sword of power,but in finding it,she awakens an evil spirit and must do battle. She fights valiantly,but in the end,the evil spirit just wants it more. 9 Some how the virus has now crossed species,and Andrea’s poor luck has her finding herself in side the Official Australian Animal Exchange Exhibit,and she is killed by zombie koala bears. 10 The wives of these lazy writers decide not to give their husbands any sex until the write that the crap way Andrea was killed was all just a really bad dream sequence,and that they will give her a death befitting of such a strong character.

    • I like that you reference classical literature at the end. You were talking about Lysistrata, right?

      To be honest, although you were kidding, the brain aneurysm would have been interesting – all this fighting and surviving against humans and zombies means that things like medical conditions probably take a back seat. If someone suddenly died of something like that, it’d be unexpected if nothing else.

    • Though I disagree with you concerning the scenario the writer’s devised to bring about the death of Andrea I do find your suggestions quite creative as well. They would work well if the show was developed as MONTY PYTHON’S THE WALKING DEAD! You really gave me a good laugh which I really needed after enduring some of the toxic posts (some aimed at me personally as opposed to my opinion) on this site. Well written.

  2. This final really sucked!

    It wasn’t even a finale … the Governor story arc isn’t closed, but Woodburry is gone. The whole season built suspense for a big action showdown that wasn’t delivered!

    Funny thing is that the writers of a show sacrificed their own story developement to (very slowly) lead into NOTHING. Why? Because in a show that shows death and brutality everywhere as well as leaving (almost) no character save, they didn’t ‘t want to give the audience an “usual” (means: brutal & bloody) showdown (rather an “unusual” A-team shooting and an Andrea goodbye drama, but leaving the Bad Guy conclusion open) … WTF? For what?

    If they don’t wanted an “usual” showdown, then they maybe should have written a totally different season without building expectations for a big showdown and let suspense going nowhere! They sacrificed the story to their selfish desire of being unusual writers not conforming to viewers expectations… in this case, I think, fulfilling (built) expectation would have done a better job!

    The Walking Dead becoming the new LOST!?
    The Walking Dead started as an amazing show with both fulminant action and (enough time for) great characterization … not to forget the thrilling cliffhangers of season 1 (and even 2).

    Then season 2 came. And the writers took very much time for characterization of the group and new characters. It was good, well written and ok to built something … therefore season 2 was accepted for being much more slowly.

    Then season 3 started really great. And again I totally accepted the time taken for character development (Michonne, The Governor, others) and I’ve seen the time taken for story development, to built suspense … remember how often episodes were analysed as episodes setting the path for the final showdown.

    But there wasn’t any delivery! Just expectations and suspense leading into nothing. I don’t care about the Governor anymore … he already lost … but I wanted to see him go down. If such an justice for the bad guy showdown is bad writing (especially when everything before hints to such an showdown), then almost every Tarantino movie is bad written.

    Season 3 had great moments and very well written episodes, but overall and retrospective it’s a incomplete season that wasted so much time … and it owes the audience an action showdown delivery!

    If the show goes on like this … building expectations and suspense without delivering plausible conclusions … then it will follow the path of shows like LOST: big disappointment because the writers couldn’t live up to all the expectations they built before!

    I really hope that the show runner has been fired for a reason and that the writers now will remember why the first season created an TV show hit!

  3. This was not a finale. The Governor didn’t die. Thats what a finale is about for Season 3. Now there is nothing to Ooohhh and Aaahh about. Also I’m less excited for season 4.

    Why did they evacuate the people from Woodbury and take them to the prison WTF…. Go live in Woodbury then?

    • I don’t know that the finale needed the Governor to die. It just needed a climax. The show didn’t give one. It needed to close out some story loops. The only one it did close was Andrea’s loop. Though I hated that character, I didn’t really want her to die. I just wanted her motivation be better, and her story to be told in a better way. SO RIP Andrea.

      • It also closed the Woodbury versus the prison loop and I believe it leaving open the fate of the governor as a way to get the viewers geared up for what is to come next Depending on one’s point of view that was either a successful gambit or a total turn off. I think you make a good point.

        • There was no Woodbury vs Prison loop. There was a Governor vs Prison loop. That is not closed.

  4. One thing is for sure: if you rather chat with a dying guy in Zombieland than using every second available to you to free yourself from your predicament, you either want to die or, at the very least, you deserve to.

    I also can’t believe how stupidly some of the other characters were written. “Yay! We won!” – “Didn’t you see them hightailing it outta here?”. Sure, buddy. You won. After your elaborate baiting plan you only managed to kill two guys of a 25+ force, among other things equipped with a .50 cal machine gun and a grenade launcher. There is no way in hell that they would ever return for some payback and put you in a world of hurt. Suuure.

    If you only had bothered to seize the vehicle with the .50 cal while most of them were inside the prison, just to mow them down when they came back out. Ah well…

    • I couldn’t have said it better myself…

      • So true … poor episode, weak final (in fact: no final), no delivery of what the whole season built up, suspense going nowhere and expectations disappointed.
        So annoying!!!

    • I agree, I don’t understand the problems some people had with the episode. It was well written and very entertaining, great Walking Dead episode. Can’t wait to see what the Governor has in store for next season :)

  5. It was a boring end to a boring season. The writers could have pulled the trigger on some epic action, but right at the end , chickened out. I hope the new show runner puts show back on pace. Otherwise season 4 isn’t going to get watched much past the first episode.

  6. Any episode that Andrea dies in is a good one in my book. I screamed “YES!” when she pulled her shirt back. She has been an annoying character since her first seen putting a gun in Rick’s face, for the 1st time.

    Carl is a friggin joke and has been needing a beating from his father since season 1. Don’t fault him for shooting the stupid kid who didn’t obey the command to drop his weapon though and Herschel should shut the hell up. If my son ever told me to go away or spoke to me in the incredibly disrespectful manner that Carl frequently speaks to Rick in he would think twice about it the next time.

    The A-team style shoot out with no casualties was lame.

    Someone commented here that they all tried successfully to pick up pliers barefoot and could do it quicker than Andrea and they were drunk. Ok…I am curious how they fared getting out of handcuffs with them? LOL

    The governor displays his amazing ability to draw his weapon and shoot someone who has a rifle trained at his head, again.

    I am a little confused however and don’t see anyone bringing this up, what the hell did Carl mean by “you didn’t kill Andrew and he came back and killed mom” We rewound it 5 times to make sure that was what he said. Who the heck is Andrew and we all know Carl put down his mother after she died giving birth. Of course, there is no body, or bones, or teeth, or hair or anything else to examine to confirm that Andrew didn’t kill her…

    I only hope the new heads of the show return it to the great show it was for two seasons. There were a few good episodes in Season 3, but not many.

    • First SCENE.

    • I could be wrong but I believe Andrew was the inmate who opened up the gates that allowed the dead to gain entrance into the prison thus causing the chaos that Lori eventually perished in. Carl is assuming that had his mother been in different circumstances with Carol and Hershel there to respond,she would have lived. If I’m wrong I know I’ll hear about it but that is how I remember it going down.

      • You are right!

    • Andrew is the prisoner who came back in the ‘Killer Within’ who
      set off the prison alarms and let walkers in the prison during his attempt to take it back from Rick and company.

      Since Rick didn’t kill Andrew when he ran away, Carl feels since Rick caused Lori’s death.

    • because andrew let out all the zombies which is the reason tdog is dead and the reason lori got stuck and couldnt really run cause of all the zombies. carl probably feels she would be alive if it wasnt for all the zombies be released in the tombs.

      • The Andrew question was answered in the above posts.

    • You talk about boring…what a chore it was to slog through your post. I’ve seen segments on C-Span with more interesting content than that sad diatribe. To be serious Paul, you are way too much in love with the comics to be the least bit objective about the show. So don’t watch it anymore because it obviously is too painful for you to see the way the comic has been altered for television. The writers from the comics have made it clear that they want the TV show to be different from the comics, to explore the same story arcs in new interpretations (by the way did you know that the very writers that took Rick’s arm in the comics say they regret having done so and consider it a mistake?). And who the hell is Adriana? I know of a character named Andrea who was brilliantly played by laurie holden and who was sadly killed off in the season finale.

          • Damn, you’re tiresome.

            • I may be tiresome but you are a tedious bore. Try keeping your posts about the subject matter.

              • I, for one, don’t find you tiresome. The interesting debates you have sparked over the past few weeks have provided much entertainment for me and I’ll kinda miss these pseudo-arguments until October.

                • Thank you.

        • Aside from your frankly disgusting opinions on the mental repercussions of sexual assault, I find the idea that Rick losing a hand being integral to who he is ridiculous too. From a technical point of view, it’s easier to not have a handless protagonist. Whereas a comic artist will simply not draw a hand, on TV, they have to make it look convincingly cut-off.

          Am I annoyed that the whole Prison/Woodbury fight didn’t last long? Yeah. Am I glad that Rick’s group fought smartly instead of classic lines of soldiers fighting between the trenches? You bet! The people freaked out in the Tombs because it was dark and scary. The Governor, a (completely insane) badass, didn’t flinch. This was believable.

          Glen and Maggie (thankfully, someone other than T-Dog remembered the body armour!) didn’t shoot anyone down because, despite being trained with guns and ‘used’ to killing, they knew the were firing at (mostly) innocent people. Contrast with the much younger, less experienced Carl, who guns down some KID without thinking twice. NOTE: I agree with Carl’s decision because that shotgun barrel *was* close to his face and think that Hershel was a bit of a nonce for what he said to Rick, but hey. Nice parallel.

          The problem most people complaining have is that the pacing/pay-off isn’t as great as the first season. Now, in UK TV shows, there are short seasons. Very few ‘filler’ episodes. The first season of The Walking Dead had fewer episodes. It was popular. AMC thought, ‘We’d like more of this!’ and now, they have similar-length stories, but more minutes to fill. I like the extra character development time, the opportunities to explore a single character’s motivations and more potential screen time for Emily Kinney, who is pretty damn cute.

          Also, it’s not a Sherlock situation where you’re waiting a year for three episodes. Three spectacular episodes, but still. There are going to be ‘sacrifices’ outside of the show’s story. Budget is always a concern. Members of the comic book’s ‘fan-dumb’ (because it’s like fandom! Anyone? *crickets chirping*) who claim that this is crap and sodomising the story Robert Kirkman set out to tell should remember that he has a lot of input. If anything, this is his chance to redo things he didn’t like the first time around!

          A final note – a lack of swearing makes this show rubbish? Grow up.

          • This is such a well written post and I agree with it 100%(probably why I think it is well written). I gave Paul a pass on his lack of insight on the repercussions of being sexually terrorized because quite frankly I’ve been called out on this website and actually called a troll so I am trying to be cordial in my admonishments of other’s posts. However you expressed your totally justified outrage to perfection. The whole “I’ve seen girls on the dance floor….” showed such a lack of sensitivity that quite frankly it’s frightening. I guess that the insensitivity isn’t so surprising from someone who damns a show basically because it staged a cleverly rendered confrontation as opposed to a graphically violent massacre.

          • “Glen and Maggie (thankfully, someone other than T-Dog remembered the body armour!) didn’t shoot anyone down because, despite being trained with guns and ‘used’ to killing, they knew the were firing at (mostly) innocent people.”

            That is the WORST reasoning EVER

            When someone walks into the place you live strapped to the teeth with weapons and ready to kill you, you don’t go “Well I better shoot at their feet and scare ’em a lil bit”

            Don’t make excuses when a show goes downhill as if the show is somehow a part of you. If you love it so much then you should want it to stay good and if you want it to stay good you must HONESTLY critique it, because if you just keep defending it, then they will keep shoveling that garbage right into your face

            • “When someone walks into the place you live strapped to the teeth with weapons and ready to kill you…”

              This, I think, is a key statement. Season 3 had a lot of (slightly ham-fisted?) comparisons throughout. One of the key ones was how the Governor and Woodbury do things vs. how Rick’s group go about business. The Governor *would* order his people to gun down invaders fleeing for their lives. Heck, this is how Oscar was killed. You know, that prisoner? The one people called T-Dog 2.0 even before he did pretty much nothing and then died?

              Glen and Maggie are *good* people. They’re the best chance at a future in this post-apocalyptic world as a young couple that are fiercely loyal to one another and their group and they love each other. They don’t gun down fleeing civilians. Contrast with Carl, who (without hesitation) does exactly that, although that shotgun was basically pointed at his face.

              Again, this is a little bit ham-fisted, but it gets the point across. *Could* Glen and Maggie gunned down those people? Absolutely. Some battles in World War 1 were basically massive machine guns mounted on the edge of a trench on full-auto whilst being moved from left to right to cut through swathes of enemy troops. However, firing above the heads of their enemies continued the ‘loud noises and scary stuff’ from inside the prison’s ‘tombs’ and ensured that they left. The prison folk aren’t like the people at Woodbury and Rick is not their Governor.

    • By the way, sir, women who are raped never ever really get over it. They eventually learn to cope, get on with their lives but never get over it. You should be ashamed at making such a thoughtless, callous comment.

      • How can you claim this, exactly? A poll? An article? Interviews? A study? Rape is a terrible thing, certainly, but that seems a little pat to me.

        • I can claim this because I have worked for nearly 17 years for a private nonprofit agency that deals with the homeless and people with mental health concerns many of whom have experienced the trauma of rape and physical/mental abuse. I’ve read all your posts and as I always say about everybody’s posts,you are entitled to your opinions as I am to mine but when you resort to uniformed and ignorant personal attacks well you diminish yourself so I really don’t need to comment.

          • LMAO. I am not the one mocking sexual assault the show is lol. I have obviously wandered into the kids section here. Such delicate sensibilities for a 30 something person who watches a tv show for teenagers. You people think this show is good? most of the best parts happen off camera. You don’t think swearing affects the validity of the apocalyptic landscape? You know what’s rubbish, the zombie apocalypse takes place and no one curses. Tell me to grow up you grow up. Please. You think this show is hardcore? LMAO it’s softcore drawn out drama with miniscule bits of action tied together to stretch 16 episodes out of what could easily have been 6. This is just my curiousity but do you guys like other things in life the same way? Do you prepare food for hours on end only to spoil it and shove it down your throat as quickly as possible? When you have sex is it foreplay for like 15 hours and then just the tip for a couple seconds with no finish lol? Because that is what this show is……Unsatisfactory. Like an adult going to kids amusement park and waiting in a line for hours on end to ride the little train. Then coming off and claiming it was one of the best rides ever. LMAO you guys crack me up. Have fun and enjoy it. Didn’t mean to disrupt your polite little peace circle here pretending that this show is not boring as hell or hardcore.

            • Not quite sure when teenagers took possession of the right to watch the show. The show is for whoever wants to watch it. And you can LMAO all you want. You were the one that made the totally insensitive remark in your post. The show has treated Maggie being terrorized by the governor in a phyical, sexual and emotional way with the heft it called for. I’d like to see your emotional state had you gone through what Glen and Maggie did.

              • Lol I bet you do and I can assure you I have undergone worse than that as have many people, sometimes on a weekly basis for the real partiers. Sorry, I didn’t think a member of the Feminist Peace Network would read my post and take offense. Obviously using hyperbole as a figure of speech is at your own risk lol. Watch whatever you want, it’s all just demographics. You want to be the older guy in the teenage demographic be my guest. Gets more awkward to people the older you get so good luck with that. Do you do this all the time? Just get into pointless conversations online and step up to anyone who posts something you don’t like. I mean if your that touchy about my comment I’d expect you to have an aneurysm if someone was really being a meanie. I don’t comment very often (at all) but it seems like you do all the time. How much free time do you have to be commenting on TWD all day? get a life and I will be returning to mine.

                • It is easy to tell that you are part of that teenage demographic watching the show. I guess 15 going on 5 by the intelligence and courtesy you display. By the way, the key demographic that watches this show is 24 to 42 so I guess this show isn’t meant for you as you so joyfully proclaim. Look it up mister so inmature it’s not funny. Luckily you aren’t representive of your age group…many are intelligent and articulate and unlike you, respectful of other people’s opinion no matter what their age.

                    • Really hope life is good to you Paul and that if you do give the 4th season of The Walking Dead a chance that it doesn’t disappoint you the way season three has. Hopefully as you gain more life experiences you will gain greater sensitivity to the issues of emotional, mental, physical and sexual intimidation and abuse and you will be more gratious regarding other peoples opinions. To the point where I sunk to your level of insult, I apologize. And don’t worry, I am very secure in who I am, what I think and feel and in what I have to offer.

                    • Yeah Paul .. you REALLY hit a nerve on Mr. O’dell. Or Bobby is just an old troll ( I say old cause he bragged about collecting comics in the 60s… though youd think someone in his seriously advanced age bracket would have more respect for other’s opinion.)

  7. Okay, much like this whole season, I was upset with plot:

    -Sure, we will bring everyone back to the prison-cold damp, ugly, no running water, horrid beds and death everywhere, instead of joining them at Wood bury- basically opposite of EVERYTHING I just typed.

    -As many posters have said: Nice to build up all season to a climatic fight that never happens.

    -Why grab those guns and vehicles while the Governor was in the prison? Why leave The happy Kinda married couple to do all the work?

    -HEY ANDREA!!! SHUT UP AND GRAB THE PLIERS!! (Although that was the most suspenseful moment of Season 3, truth be told.)

    BUT- I loved the characterization:

    -Rick feeling forgiven and not seeing his wife anymore after the painful arch he had all season.

    -Hershel continues to be the most stabilizing character on the show.

    -Daryl overcoming all the ghosts of his past.

    -Carl basically warping into the kid from the “Omen” movies.

    -The Governor finally descending into the insane, crazed killer we all knew he had in him

    If ever the was a need to do a two hour finale to do things right, this was it. Just a missed opportunity. I do agree with a lot of comments here: It is time for Season 4 to grab us by the throat and remind us why we got hooked on this show in season 1.

    • Totally agree!

  8. Snowgator, glad to see SOMEONE here who knows constructive criticism. I disagree with you on some things, I thought the finale was really good, but it wasn’t nearly as epic as it could have been if it was a two hour episode. I was actually really entertained with the prison fight (really good with a TV budget!) but it was too short. But you did have good points, well written comment :)

  9. Oh, btw. Did anyone notice the continuity problem with the season of the year in the finale? In the previous episode they had late summer/early fall with green leaves and a couple of red/yellow/brown ones here and there. In this episode they were in full winter, with the trees around the prison having shed all their leaves and visible breath due to cold air during the day (the people, not the trees).

    • I’ve seen this asked before and I dont’ think anyone has answered it yet, so here goes:

      They can’t stay in the town because they can’t defend it. It’s far too big a space for them to defend. The people they brought back from Woodbury were mostly old and infirm.

      The Governor still has some soldiers with him and if the prison group were to set up in Woodbury the Governor could infiltrate it very easily.,

  10. WTF! They killed off Andrea? Though I hated how the writer made her out to be I didn’t want her to die? Does every character have to die if people hate them? Now who is going to be Rick’s lover for the future? That Karen lady? lol

    • Moderator alert! I don’t know who posted that last comment attributed to me but I can assure you it wasn’t. Unless there is a one and a million chance that another Robert O’Dell that suddenly decided to start posting on a forum that will most likely be on hiatus until October there is a good chance that someone who thinks they are funny is posting foolishness and trying to pass it off as mine. Any posts with such inane remarks as that one I assure you are not from me. Hopefully you can check this out by the individuals e-mail address and edit any further attempts.

  11. A good character knows when to make an exit. Good writers know when to let them make that exit. These lazy writers are so in love with the Govenor they thought it best to drag out his arc. Do yourself a favor and read the comic. Kirkman got it right.

    • Kirkman is the one who decided to shake it up and keep the governor around longer than he did in the comics. To paraphrase, there is alot more to do with the governor. I for one am glad.

      • The number may be accurate.

    • Exactly right!

  12. I used to love this show during season 1 but with the first half of season 2 and almost all of this season there’s not much to like anymore! The Governor never seemed scary or dangerous to me and David Morissey’s accent was terrible!

  13. This is such a Bad Show…. The first season was cool and promising but then it went down under.

    • It’s been 3 months! A little late to the party. You know, you either like the show or you don’t. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. If you are someone who likes the show but are disappointed in how it has developed give some constructive advise on how you think it can be improved upon. “This is such a bad show” doesn’t really advance the discussion very much. Me? I’m looking forward to October when it returns with the 4th season.

      • Paul, you don’t know me. And I don’t have to justify myself here. I offered no insult to the poster as you feel the need to do. I’ve spent my life working with the disadvantaged and I would put my contributions to what’s important in the world up against yours any day. I hope you live a long and productive life and someday outgrow the need to belittle people the way you seem compelled to do.

          • You don’t justify yourself because you can’t. Nuf said. Like I said before you don’t know me. and you seem to be the only one offended by me. Talk about insecure. But enuf said.

              • You’re a very sad human being.

                  • Paul, you are a f*cking loser prick. I bet you like that I used some attractive language! I have studied to be a health care professional at a university level, and I can confirm that the affects of sexual abuse/rape last a life time. Has there been studies done? Of course you f*cking moron. Do you know anything about published health/scientific Journal articles? I wish I could fly across this computer and f*ck your face with my meaty man stick.

                    I never speak or act like some prick but I thought lets attack fire with fire….. spoiler from late season 4.

  14. well maybe paul finally shut up one can only hope rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • rofl…… really…. I uess you re easily amused. How farcitcally droll

  15. Its amazing how much hate and anger exists on these posts. If you don’t like it don’t watch but to day that a person who helps others is doing it to feel superior. Wow. Not sure what to say to that

    • I’m not surprised you don’t know what to say to that. Maybe you have been lucky enough to never meet some of these people. Maybe you just never dealt with a two faced bully or taken Psych 101. It is called a superiority complex (or an inferiority complex) however you want to look at it. If you have a hard time grasping this concept, which is quite prevalent in society, then good luck because I would imagine you go through a lot of life speechless. You honestly have never come across two faced people who do nice things only to use to their own advantage??? You never heard of someone doing someone a favour and then holding it over their head? I’m not saying everyone does it. I am saying that the guy who finds it necessary to tout it in a comment section for TWD does it. I really figured some of you guys would F_ck Off once the new season started….. But if you all want to keep getting served keep running your mouths. I get to you when I can.