‘Amazing Spider-Man’ Spinoff Movies ‘Venom’ & ‘Sinister Six’ Officially Announced

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For over a decade, the Spider-Man franchise has been one of Sony Pictures’ biggest and most lucrative brands. Sam Raimi’s fan-favorite trilogy, which kicked-off in 2002 with Spider-Man, ultimately scored nearly $2.5 billion in global box office totals by the time that Spider-Man 3 left theaters in 2007. Following disagreements between Raimi and the studio, director Marc Webb was tasked with rebooting the series with an “untold” version of the web-slinger’s story – which, when it debuted in 2012, added another $750 million to the franchise haul.

Sony will get another significant shot of Spider-Man money when The Amazing Spider-Man 2 hits theaters on May 2nd, 2014 and two further sequels are already slotted for release in 2016 and 2018 respectively. Yet, rumors have circulated for weeks that the 2018 entry might not be a Spider-Man movie after all – and could, instead, focus on Peter Parker’s iconic anti-hero, Venom instead. While we cannot be sure that the 2018 Spider-Man franchise film won’t actually turn out to be The Amazing Spider-Man 4, we now know, through an official Sony press release, that the studio is preparing standalone movies for Venom as well as the Sinister Six super villain team.

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We’ll include the full press release on the second page of this post, but first let’s breakdown the key details.

The press release indicates that Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, and Jeff Pinkner, who all worked on the script for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and will pen The Amazing Spider-Man 3, as well as Ed Solomon (Now You See Me) and Drew Goddard (The Cabin in the Woods) have been assigned the task of building-out the ongoing Spider-Man franchise story and script the aforementioned two standalone films. The official word from Sony suggests that Kurtzman, Orci, Pinkner, Solomon, and Goddard, along with director Marc Webb and producer Avi Arad have formed a “brain trust” that will “expand the universe for the brand” and “develop a continuous tone and thread” that will carry through the remaining Amazing Spider-Man entries and any spinoffs.

While Sony still has contracts to sign and details to work out in the coming months, the current plan is for Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, and Jeff Pinkner to finish The Amazing Spider-Man 3 script in time for a fall 2014 production start date (in the interest of making the planned June 10th, 2016 release) with Webb, who is not currently signed for the sequel, in the director’s chair again.

Next, Kurtzman, Orci and Solomon will write the Venom screenplay (presumably abandoning prior script treatments) – with Kurtzman also serving as director. Fans who have been following Kurtzman and Orci’s writing partnership through a myriad of geek-friendly projects will likely remember that Kurtzman released his directorial debut, People Like Us last year to solid reviews. As a result, while his name might come as a surprise for a Venom director, it’s a logical step for the filmmaker – especially since Kurtzman and Orci have expressed interest in Venom multiple times before. (This also explains why Kurtzman isn’t re-collaborating with Orci on the script for Star Trek 3, which Paramount is targeting for a 2016 release date.)

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Finally, while Kurtzman, Orci and Solomon attempt to make-up for Venom‘s lackluster appearance in Spider-Man 3, Goddard will be writing the Sinister Six movie – and likely directing as well (assuming the studio and director remain in agreement about the project). Goddard’s involvement is particularly interesting – given that he’ll also be shepherding the Daredevil TV series at Netflix. For that reason, moviegoers should not expect the Sinister Six film to really get rolling until sometime after 2015 (when Daredevil is expected to launch).

The press release did not go into detail about which version of Venom fans will see or what hero (or heroes) will be taking-on the Sinister Six but Columbia Pictures president Doug Belgrad expressed his excitement about the assembled filmmaking team (which will undoubtedly make his studio truckloads of money in the coming years):

“The Spider-Man film franchise is one of our studio’s greatest assets. We are thrilled with the creative team we have assembled to delve more deeply into the world that Marc, Avi and Matt have begun to explore in The Amazing Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man 2. We believe that Marc, Alex, and Drew have uniquely exciting visions for how to expand the Spider-Man universe in each of these upcoming films.”

Producing partners Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach were equally enthusiastic – touting not just the creative talent but the countless possibilities that exist for stories set in the Spider-Man universe:

“This collaboration was born out of the great experience we and Marc had working with Alex, Bob, and Jeff on The Amazing Spider-Man 2. With more than fifty years’ wealth of stories in the comic books to draw upon for inspiration, the Spider-Man universe is truly boundless; in addition, the Spider-Man comics have the greatest rogues gallery of any series, and to have the chance to explore that on film is truly thrilling. Until now, we have approached each film as a separate, self-contained entity, but with this move, we have the opportunity to grow the franchise by looking to the future as we develop a continuous arc for the story. That is what Alex, Bob, Jeff, Ed, and Drew will do in this unprecedented collaboration, and we’re excited about the directions they are taking the character and the world.”

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For weeks, we’ve been speculating that Sony intended to use The Amazing Spider-Man 2 as a jumping off point for expanding their core story into a shared universe – one that could introduce other potential heroes into the mix. Rumors of a Venom teaser in the film further corroborated the notion that Webb wasn’t just including nods to comic book fans, he was literally fleshing out his Spider-Man universe, fertilizing the property for future spinoff possibilities. In general, it’s refreshing to see the studio simply step out and confirm rumored projects – since it will, no doubt, help make fans feel like Webb and The Amazing Spider-Man franchise writers are working together in service of executing a thought-out interweaving story (instead of thin and opportunistic cash grabs).

For many fans, Venom will easily be the more exciting of the two projects – and it will be interesting to see which iteration of the antihero Kurtzman, Orci and Solomon bring to the big screen (Eddie Brock, Flash Thompson, etc) as well as how the character is introduced (alien life form or genetically engineered “suit”). Recent viral marketing for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 name-dropped Eddie Brock and the genetically engineered suit would certainly fit with other Oscorp creations (such as Vulture’s wings and the tentacles worn by Doctor Octopus) but there’s no way to know, for sure, at this point that the writers will go with that combination. Nevertheless, many versions of the Venom character have been morally gray vigilante types – who, despite their own ruthless means, hunt down and defeat larger threats (such as Carnage, among others). In addition, including the Venom character in a shared universe with Spider-Man will also offer plenty of great opportunities to juxtapose the antihero against central protagonist Peter Parker, who tends to take a more virtuous crime fighting approach.

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While little is known about the direction of the Venom spinoff, the Sinister Six film is an even bigger question mark – especially since we’ll, likely, only have been introduced to three out of six sinister members in 2014 (Electro, Rhino, and Green Goblin). Other possible evildoers include Doctor Octopus and Vulture (both teased in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 trailer) as well as staples like Sandman, Kraven the Hunter, and Mysterio. Venom was even a member at one point but, given that the standalone Venom movie would likely be en route around the same time (if not before), then it’s likely that the character will actually show up on the heroic side. In fact, the Sinister Six movie could serve as a rally point for Spider-Man, Venom, and other supporting heroes (who might be introduced in upcoming films) as they put aside any differences to tackle the larger super villain team threat.

A multi-hero mash-up would make a lot sense, since Sony would love to create their own X-Men: Days of Future Past/Avengers-like event film. Could The Amazing Spider-Man 4, scheduled for a 2018 release, actually be a mega-hero vs. villain brawl in the form of the Sinister Six movie? It’s an idea that we recently presented during the latest Screen Rant Underground podcast episode, but for the time being, that’s only speculation.

We’ll keep you up to date as we hear more official information for both the Venom and Sinister Six movies – along with updates on the core Amazing Spider-Man series.

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NEXT PAGE: Read the full press release from Columbia Pictures

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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opens in U.S. theaters on May 2nd, 2014, followed by The Amazing Spider-Man 3 on June 10th, 2016, and The Amazing Spider-Man 4 (or one of the spinoff films) on May 4th, 2018. Venom and Sinister Six do not currently have official release dates.

Follow me on Twitter @benkendrick for further updates on The Amazing Spider-Man film series as well as future movie, TV, and gaming news.

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  1. Since a Venom flick has been talked about for years, it isn’t a surprise that a new project would take shape. I also hope that he faces off against Carnage. But the Sinister Six idea as a focus of a movie without Spider-Man..? I’m not really sold on it. However, the image SR provides above does have merit. Look close, people- two of the characters seen in the graphic are Sandman and Puma. Both these characters started off as villains but wound up becoming heroes. And with the Six, there has been occasional dissension in the ranks. Doc Ock, of course, will lead them.

    That said– I have to sell it.
    (however- if Sony wanted Daredevil to have access to the Kingpin…? I know it won’t happen at all…but you got to wonder…)

  2. I think Disney should hurry up and buy Spider-Man back. Not only does Spider-Man need to be with The Avengers where he belongs, but this is not a very good idea. It seems like Sony is desperately trying to compete with the Disney and Fox MCUs. I like the idea of a Venom stand alone feature, but a Sinister Six movie? I’m not quite confident on that one.

    • spiderman villains are popular enough to stand on their own

    • I actually really appreciate the approach Sony is taking with their films. Fox just seems to randomly generate X stories that I personally don’t care for all that much (Singer has to go IMO). Sony is laying out a solid plan years in advance and formulating a story, its been on record (by Alan Taylor) that Marvel kind of makes it up as they go along (its working tho). Venom will be a hit if done correctly im sure. I can see where the skepticism comes from for a SS movie. For me, it all comes down to who they get on the team and who they go up against. For all we know it could be Spidey. I find the idea of a superhero flick from the perspective of the bad guys incredible and cannot wait for these to come out :D (Bring on Morbius!!!)

    • That should never happen. If marvel acquires The Fantastic Four, X-men, or Spider-man you won’t see them on film for 5 to 10 years. As Marvel studios has their films planned out till then. Not to mention Lesser known characters such as Antman or Guardians of the galaxy, wouldn’t have gotten a shot on the big scree.

  3. Pretty sure the Sinister Six will be shown as Dark Avengers type of heroes, which will do heroic deeds but in the same time kill, rob people etc. like DA did in their comics. So it will OsCorp’s private superhero team and I’m thinking that the line-up is made of Dr. Octopus, Rhino, Kraven the Hunter, Electro, Vulture and Sandman/Hydroman with Norman Osborn as the guy-in-the-black suit leading them and their main objective is to catch Spider-Man other rogue heroes which are pain in Norman’s ass.

    • Looked like Osborn is dying in the ASM2 trailer.
      I wouldn’t expect him to be a significant part in any of these movies, beyond shaping his company and creating the foundation for the S6

      • Osborn being deathly ill seems like the perfect justification to turn himself into the goblin.

        • My thoughts exactly. It’s the perfect situation to justify that classic “so desperate I’ll try it on myself prematurely, and the pressure of the situation helps knock things off just enough for me to go nuts” trope that is the Green Goblin. Plus it would be addicting having that youth, mobility and power back from the edge of death.

      • True about Osborn.. but they did tease the Vulture’s wings.. in the comics he was just an old decrepid man that managed to get Peter’s blood to basically give him a new lease on life (fountain of youth type deal) he used Kraven if I’m not mistaken to get said blood from spidey… For the movie universe, no reason why they can’t apply this (old dying man storyline) for Osborn (the actor is pretty good).. so he could become the vulture (saved having to intro another random old man). Green goblin is harry as the poster suggests.. that leaves venom and whom would play him.. theyll prob stick with the traditional pre ultimate characterisation that obtains the suit since Harry seemed a bit to far gone if he become GG. yay speculation lol

        • I’m willing to bet that the Sinister Six will be Green Goblin, Rhino, Elector, Doctor Octopus, Vulture with a toss up as to the sixth member between The Lizard, Kraven the Hunter and Venom. Or, the sixth member could be either The Gentleman or perhaps even Spider-Man himself (a la Ultimate Six).

      • Yeah, but the point of the first movie was to get Norman to full health. So he can be the mastermind behind the SinisterSix.

  4. None of that means anything if part 2 sucks. I think they need to back off a bit or maybe not release all of their plans for the future. A little mystery is a good thing. Spelling everything out could turn out to bite them in the ass.

    • Avengers was planned 6 years prior to release and Marvel Studios has plans out to 2021, so Sony planning to 2018-19 isn’t shocking. If the big multiple studio crossover people want is ever to happen the studio heads will know about it 5-7 years earlier. Not even looking at that TASM made 500M$+ with approximately a $200 budget. They’d be worried more if it was 300M$ or under but 2 would have to bomb miserably with no profit to consider not to proceed with 4. Let’s be honest, they’ll get tons of profit and continue Spiderman for years, ratings aside. Disney would buy it before stopping movie production.

      • Sorry TASM made 750M$

  5. And this is why I said not to stress over the Andrew Garfield/contract news. I knew it would be a Venom based movie potentially as the 4th. But the Sinister Six as a villain based movie is cool just because its a different point of view.

    I’m not sure why people are skeptical about a villain based movie. Take X-Men First Class for example. A lot of people have said that their favorite part is Erik/Magneto doing his “adventures”. Give it a chance to exist before we burn it down people lol.

    • First Class worked because it was before Erik became hell bent on going to war with the human race.

  6. Okay…

    Can we please all organize a petition where we can get all the Marvel Superheroes in one big film for Infinity War, Civil War, Secret Invasion, or some crossover event?
    Disney, Fox, Sony and Marvel Films would split all the Billions they’d make!

    Does anyone know if this is already running?

    • This would be amazing, but will never happen.

      No way would any of the studios allow this since some of their characters would have to take a back seat to others. You cant make Wolverine, Spider-Man and Iron Man all the central focus, which is what would need to happen for this to be possible. Then you would need a villain from each to be the central focus. Secret Wars (the original) would have to be the story since thats the only way to make all the heroes and villains be centrally focused, and I really dont see that ever happening.

      • It would be after 2020, before the point of re-rebooting Spiderman or putting it on hold, but it could happen and it doesn’t need to have Wolverine in the spotlight. I wouldn’t argue with Wolverine.

        There’s other X/Avengers and the FF to balance. I think the best existing event would be Cataclysm or AvX if not fully original. For maximum studio profit it’d be a 2-3 part movie and balance can be shifted. There’s several methods to give each studio there fair share.

        • Aside from contract/studio issues that would need to be sorted out and agreed upon, there’s also the problem of too many characters or too complex a plot. With a film there’s a limit to those things whereby the more you add beyond that point, the harder it gets to make it work.

    • ummm yeah… no. They could probably never successfully pull this off without everyone hating it, while it would be nice it would be terrible, inaccurate, and most likely a rush job piece of crap. avengers will probably as big as it gets. sorry

  7. I think this is going to be awesome. A Venom solo film is obviously an awesome idea, gives the chance to have an entire film focus on the symbiote and possible Carnage as an antagonist. Sinister Six sounds interesting, really curious to see how they’ll pull it off.

  8. These announcements and press releases so far in advance are becoming increasingly frustrating. The news last week about future X-Men movies and now this…it used to be exciting to have something to look forward to. But now every movie exists just to make room for the next 3 sequels. It’s hard to enjoy (and be surprised by) what’s coming out next when the studios just want to tease you with what comes after that.

    And that’s coming from a movie lover, not just a fanboy.

  9. So who will be the Heroes of the films? could be a good way of introducing characters. I always liked the villains of Spiderman better then Spiderman himself like Doc Ock, Scorpion, Kraven, Venom, and Carnage but really without Spiderman how can one of these work unless they are going to bring in some new heroes like Spiderwoman, and turn Venom into a Wolverine like Anti hero. Looking forward to see what they are going to do maybe end up with a really good surprise.

  10. I called it like a week ago one of these movies will be all about the sinister six with Spiderman as the antagonist

  11. If and when they do the Venom movie, they should make sure they use top notch CGI this time.

  12. I like the direction Sony is going in trying to expand the Spiderman universe, so I hope eventually they end up making a Spiderman 2099 film, that would be amazing.

    Or better yet, make a movie based on the idea of Shattered Dimensions, where different versions of Spiderman team up. It would be pretty sweet to see Spiderman Noir, 2099, etc. in the same film. I doubt this would ever happen, but its fun to think about.

  13. 1. the new transformers rhino looks stupid
    2. tired of a peter parker who seems to have emotional and confidence issues
    3. the new green goblin so far looks like a troll with wild hair
    4. where is the racist max dillion from the comics instead of some blue eel
    5. a sinister six movie, really??
    6. no avengers,no ghost rider,no heroes for hire, no defenders, etc.
    you got nothing without spidey’s friends. this franchise, creative wise
    is done……

    • 1.Agreed
      2.Reading TASM from the beginning (1963) Peter has always some confidence issues.
      4.Ultimate Electro because white villains are cliche
      5. After Marvel NOW it’s not surprising
      6.Agreed

    • 6. What leads you to that conclusion?

    • Maybe this is overly nerding out here, but I can’t help imagining how hot and stuffy it would be in a rhino contraption like that.

      The people involved with the film have said Rhino is character with a smaller role in this film, but I can’t help but wonder if he’ll get upgraded to a non-mechanical enhancement of some kind for the next film. I will admit he’s not a comics character I was really “into” but now that we’re discussing his film incarnation I find myself hoping he’s not a throw-away.

  14. The clone saga ruined Spidey in the comics for me… All this and the last spidey movie ruins my childhood hero forever…

    • That sounds dumb. Some movie that’s coming out is ruining your childhood? Is it a time traveling movie?

      • Smh

      • Not my childhood… My childhood hero… Read better and don’t be a dick. Everyone has a right to their opinion… You like the direction of spidey in the movies and or comics… I don’t, now go jump off of something…

        • hm?

          I didn’t say I liked the direction of Spidey in comics or films. I’m saying “a new version of something you liked as a kid shouldn’t impact you in that way.” Instead of assuming I’m defending the movie when I said nothing like that, just take a step back and go “ah yeah, I’m caring way too much about something unimportant.” I know pride gets in the way but try to get past it.

          • So because you think its unimportant, people shouldnt care about it. Get over yourself, really tired of the majority of your posts around here.

            • This should be Great news Our childhood hero is getting his own franchise at the helm with great writters and directors.

              If you don’t like what’s already out. That’s cool, you should at least give the new films a chance. Before assuming they’ll be junk.

            • In the larger scheme of things, a new interpretation that you don’t like of a loved character isn’t enough to get upset or worked up about. Sometimes we get overly wrapped up and go too far down the rabbit hole…we’ve all done it, sometimes it’s good to step back and take a few breaths.

              I didn’t say people shouldn’t care about it, anyway. You seem to be taking a binary viewpoint, all or nothing, “Hey he said don’t get so worked up about it! that must mean he hates it!” No. Sorry.

              Get over myself? You’re the one who’s too good to think about what I’m saying. You’re too cool to take in a different viewpoint than yourself. Yeeeeessss massah! I do what you say! Thanks you massah!

  15. Best news of the day so far.

  16. Looking at that picture of Electro, it makes me think of the terrible Dr. Doom from the bad Fantastic Four movies.

    • i thought he looked the best out of everybody in FF

  17. I did not know that Kurtzman directed People Like Us. I really enjoyed that film, which helps me think positive here.

    TASM2 looks pretty weird, from what I have seen so far, which is to say that I’m not sure what it will be like. Hopefully good.

  18. This just seems like a desperate attempt at a shared universe, which nobody wanted to do until Disney/Marvel knocked it out of the ballpark. Now it seems to be the thing to do.

  19. Maybe other experiments and accidents like Peter Parker being bitten becoming spiderman, The Lizard, Spider Woman, Venom, Scorpion created by JJJ using Oscorp some way (etc) get out of control and become problems for Oscorp so the Sinister Six form to take them out and keep a lid on things?

  20. I’ve wanted them to do Venom “right” on film for a long time, hopefully it turns out well this time around the wheel. Most version sof Venom are awesome but I have a soft spot for the Agent Venom version.

    Sorta related to Venom, my favorite Spidey costumes are the black suit pre-Venom, and the Future Foundation suit.

  21. If theses are in context of other spiderman movies then I’m all for it. But standalones no way.

  22. I smell a couple of ‘Elektras’ in the making.

  23. Great news. Sony is going all out with their property as the should. Marvel showed the movie world the potential of CBM’ s. Sony and Fox both are showing they want to one up Marvel. This is all really good news for us, the viewer.

  24. OK i want to get an opinion straight here. That thing on the banner looks NOTHING like the rhino and it annoys me to hear it called that. If anyone knows some of the original story arcs they will know that there are robots known as spider slayers set out to kill spiderman by J.jonah Jameson. The thing on the banner is highly resemblant to one of these robots and shouldnt be labeled unless officially anounced.

  25. Sinister Six,the Green Team!! ;-)

  26. I think the problem with this whole thing, though it has the potential to be entertaining, is that it is severely limited by Sony only owning Siderman and his related characters (who actually fall under that umbrella i’m not sure).

    We can only go so far in Spiderman’s timeline because his interaction with other Marvel characters cannot happen in Sony’s world. I think that although the reboot was interesting, it was way too soon in my opinion. How long with they wait until they reboot Spiderman once again? If they have no other Heroes to drain, they won’t wait very long to drag us through another incarnation a couple years after the next couple Spiderman movies. A vicious cycle is possibly awaiting us.

    If they could strike a deal, a was mentioned in a previous comment, that would be the only sure-fire way to make this franchise last and stay interesting.

  27. What about the possibility of the Sinister Six movie actually being “Spider Man & the Fantastic Four” ? Sony must want to merge properties asap, and for six villains Spider Man needs reinforcements … FF + Venom even the odds.

  28. i forgot Disney owns it

  29. I want Sinister 6 movie action figure toys.

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