‘Amazing Spider-Man’ Spinoff Movies ‘Venom’ & ‘Sinister Six’ Officially Announced

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For over a decade, the Spider-Man franchise has been one of Sony Pictures’ biggest and most lucrative brands. Sam Raimi’s fan-favorite trilogy, which kicked-off in 2002 with Spider-Man, ultimately scored nearly $2.5 billion in global box office totals by the time that Spider-Man 3 left theaters in 2007. Following disagreements between Raimi and the studio, director Marc Webb was tasked with rebooting the series with an “untold” version of the web-slinger’s story – which, when it debuted in 2012, added another $750 million to the franchise haul.

Sony will get another significant shot of Spider-Man money when The Amazing Spider-Man 2 hits theaters on May 2nd, 2014 and two further sequels are already slotted for release in 2016 and 2018 respectively. Yet, rumors have circulated for weeks that the 2018 entry might not be a Spider-Man movie after all – and could, instead, focus on Peter Parker’s iconic anti-hero, Venom instead. While we cannot be sure that the 2018 Spider-Man franchise film won’t actually turn out to be The Amazing Spider-Man 4, we now know, through an official Sony press release, that the studio is preparing standalone movies for Venom as well as the Sinister Six super villain team.

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We’ll include the full press release on the second page of this post, but first let’s breakdown the key details.

The press release indicates that Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, and Jeff Pinkner, who all worked on the script for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and will pen The Amazing Spider-Man 3, as well as Ed Solomon (Now You See Me) and Drew Goddard (The Cabin in the Woods) have been assigned the task of building-out the ongoing Spider-Man franchise story and script the aforementioned two standalone films. The official word from Sony suggests that Kurtzman, Orci, Pinkner, Solomon, and Goddard, along with director Marc Webb and producer Avi Arad have formed a “brain trust” that will “expand the universe for the brand” and “develop a continuous tone and thread” that will carry through the remaining Amazing Spider-Man entries and any spinoffs.

While Sony still has contracts to sign and details to work out in the coming months, the current plan is for Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, and Jeff Pinkner to finish The Amazing Spider-Man 3 script in time for a fall 2014 production start date (in the interest of making the planned June 10th, 2016 release) with Webb, who is not currently signed for the sequel, in the director’s chair again.

Next, Kurtzman, Orci and Solomon will write the Venom screenplay (presumably abandoning prior script treatments) – with Kurtzman also serving as director. Fans who have been following Kurtzman and Orci’s writing partnership through a myriad of geek-friendly projects will likely remember that Kurtzman released his directorial debut, People Like Us last year to solid reviews. As a result, while his name might come as a surprise for a Venom director, it’s a logical step for the filmmaker – especially since Kurtzman and Orci have expressed interest in Venom multiple times before. (This also explains why Kurtzman isn’t re-collaborating with Orci on the script for Star Trek 3, which Paramount is targeting for a 2016 release date.)

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Finally, while Kurtzman, Orci and Solomon attempt to make-up for Venom‘s lackluster appearance in Spider-Man 3, Goddard will be writing the Sinister Six movie – and likely directing as well (assuming the studio and director remain in agreement about the project). Goddard’s involvement is particularly interesting – given that he’ll also be shepherding the Daredevil TV series at Netflix. For that reason, moviegoers should not expect the Sinister Six film to really get rolling until sometime after 2015 (when Daredevil is expected to launch).

The press release did not go into detail about which version of Venom fans will see or what hero (or heroes) will be taking-on the Sinister Six but Columbia Pictures president Doug Belgrad expressed his excitement about the assembled filmmaking team (which will undoubtedly make his studio truckloads of money in the coming years):

“The Spider-Man film franchise is one of our studio’s greatest assets. We are thrilled with the creative team we have assembled to delve more deeply into the world that Marc, Avi and Matt have begun to explore in The Amazing Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man 2. We believe that Marc, Alex, and Drew have uniquely exciting visions for how to expand the Spider-Man universe in each of these upcoming films.”

Producing partners Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach were equally enthusiastic – touting not just the creative talent but the countless possibilities that exist for stories set in the Spider-Man universe:

“This collaboration was born out of the great experience we and Marc had working with Alex, Bob, and Jeff on The Amazing Spider-Man 2. With more than fifty years’ wealth of stories in the comic books to draw upon for inspiration, the Spider-Man universe is truly boundless; in addition, the Spider-Man comics have the greatest rogues gallery of any series, and to have the chance to explore that on film is truly thrilling. Until now, we have approached each film as a separate, self-contained entity, but with this move, we have the opportunity to grow the franchise by looking to the future as we develop a continuous arc for the story. That is what Alex, Bob, Jeff, Ed, and Drew will do in this unprecedented collaboration, and we’re excited about the directions they are taking the character and the world.”

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For weeks, we’ve been speculating that Sony intended to use The Amazing Spider-Man 2 as a jumping off point for expanding their core story into a shared universe – one that could introduce other potential heroes into the mix. Rumors of a Venom teaser in the film further corroborated the notion that Webb wasn’t just including nods to comic book fans, he was literally fleshing out his Spider-Man universe, fertilizing the property for future spinoff possibilities. In general, it’s refreshing to see the studio simply step out and confirm rumored projects – since it will, no doubt, help make fans feel like Webb and The Amazing Spider-Man franchise writers are working together in service of executing a thought-out interweaving story (instead of thin and opportunistic cash grabs).

For many fans, Venom will easily be the more exciting of the two projects – and it will be interesting to see which iteration of the antihero Kurtzman, Orci and Solomon bring to the big screen (Eddie Brock, Flash Thompson, etc) as well as how the character is introduced (alien life form or genetically engineered “suit”). Recent viral marketing for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 name-dropped Eddie Brock and the genetically engineered suit would certainly fit with other Oscorp creations (such as Vulture’s wings and the tentacles worn by Doctor Octopus) but there’s no way to know, for sure, at this point that the writers will go with that combination. Nevertheless, many versions of the Venom character have been morally gray vigilante types – who, despite their own ruthless means, hunt down and defeat larger threats (such as Carnage, among others). In addition, including the Venom character in a shared universe with Spider-Man will also offer plenty of great opportunities to juxtapose the antihero against central protagonist Peter Parker, who tends to take a more virtuous crime fighting approach.

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While little is known about the direction of the Venom spinoff, the Sinister Six film is an even bigger question mark – especially since we’ll, likely, only have been introduced to three out of six sinister members in 2014 (Electro, Rhino, and Green Goblin). Other possible evildoers include Doctor Octopus and Vulture (both teased in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 trailer) as well as staples like Sandman, Kraven the Hunter, and Mysterio. Venom was even a member at one point but, given that the standalone Venom movie would likely be en route around the same time (if not before), then it’s likely that the character will actually show up on the heroic side. In fact, the Sinister Six movie could serve as a rally point for Spider-Man, Venom, and other supporting heroes (who might be introduced in upcoming films) as they put aside any differences to tackle the larger super villain team threat.

A multi-hero mash-up would make a lot sense, since Sony would love to create their own X-Men: Days of Future Past/Avengers-like event film. Could The Amazing Spider-Man 4, scheduled for a 2018 release, actually be a mega-hero vs. villain brawl in the form of the Sinister Six movie? It’s an idea that we recently presented during the latest Screen Rant Underground podcast episode, but for the time being, that’s only speculation.

We’ll keep you up to date as we hear more official information for both the Venom and Sinister Six movies – along with updates on the core Amazing Spider-Man series.

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NEXT PAGE: Read the full press release from Columbia Pictures

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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opens in U.S. theaters on May 2nd, 2014, followed by The Amazing Spider-Man 3 on June 10th, 2016, and The Amazing Spider-Man 4 (or one of the spinoff films) on May 4th, 2018. Venom and Sinister Six do not currently have official release dates.

Follow me on Twitter @benkendrick for further updates on The Amazing Spider-Man film series as well as future movie, TV, and gaming news.

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  1. I can imagine a stand-alone Venom flick. But a Sinister Six movie without Spider-Man? Or will Spidey be involved in not just his own movie arc but in the spin-offs as well?

    mind boggling.

    • I think Spidey will be involved but I feel like theyre going to show the movie through the villians point of view.

  2. I can’t imagine any of these movies without Spiderman involved. I like Venom and all but I won’t waste money on a Venom movie that doesn’t involve him fighting Spiderman. That’s what Netflix is for.

    • Agreed.

  3. God this is just so lame!! nobody wants a sinister six movie and we already had Venom on screen and it sucked!! This is why comic book movies will fail in the long run because studio execs with no love for the source material will agree to any s*** in a stupid suit …. anyone want to see Vulture flap around? really?

    So, so bland.

    • I can respect your opinion, but how your saying it is kinda childish. Spider-Man 3 was 6 years ago, it’s time to let it go. The Vulture has his fans out their, and the writers do love the source material, or else they wouldn’t work on these movies.

    • I don’t respect your opinion, you’re ranting is literally the same tired hipster “big corporations” rant. Also Comic Book movies failing in the long run? they have a pretty rough start with Rami, and Singer destroying titles, but those titles still brought in people, and money. Comic book movies aren’t failing in the least bit, no matter how bad YOU think they are.

      Also Vulture was one of Spidey’s first iconic villians, it’s about time he faces off against Toomes.

    • When you say nobody wants a sinister six movie. What you mean to say is you don’t want a sinister six movie.

  4. Now that’s what I’m talking about..!!! Venom vs Carnage..

  5. Interesting. Let’s just see how they pull off this unorthodox approach to superhero moviemaking. Just hope the twists and turns that are sure to happen in such adventures don’t end up like IM3′s Mandarin.

  6. This is definitely interesting. Spider-Man does have the greatest rogues’ gallery in comics (only Batman’s can rival his), so to see these villains properly translated into film would be great to see. Just stay away from the clones, Sony. No need to go down THAT rabbit hole.

    • I would say that the X-men have quite an extensive and interesting rogues gallery as well, with; Magneto, the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Juggernaut, Sinister, Apocalypse and his Horsemen, Clan Akkaba, Dark Riders, Riders of the Storm, Alliance of Evil, The Brood, the Dire Wraiths, the Phalanx, Vulcan, the Shi’ar and the Imperial Guard, Church of Humanity, Friends of Humanity, Graydon Creed, Bastion, Boliver Trask, the Sentinels, Master Mold, Omega Sentinel, Predetor X, Nimrod, the Purifiers, William Stryker, Donald Pierce, Cameron Hodge, Stephen Lang, Leper Queen, Lady Deathstrike, Selene, Madame Masque, Madelyne Pryer, Goblin Queen, the Reavers, the U-Men, the Alliance of Evil, Frenzy, Holocaust, Onslaught, Legion, Legacy, the Hellfire Club, Sebastion Shaw, Hellions, White Queen and her Cukoos, Empath, Magma, Paradigm, the Acolytes, Exodus, Random, Avalanche, Basilisk, Nate Grey, Mammomax, Mastermind, Nocturne, Mystique, Pyro, Toad, Sabertooth, Unus the Untouchable, Vanisher, the Mauraders, Lady Mastermind, Scalphunter, Vertigo, Sunfire, Malice, the Nasty Boys, the Children of the Vault, Emplate and his team of Hellions, Gene Nation, Callisto, Dark Beast, the Mutant Liberation Front, Feral, Forearm, Strife, Deadpool, Domino, Reaper, Mentallo, Sauron, the Savage Land Mutates, Krakoa, the Sisterhood, Mojo, Spiral, Gamemaster, Warwolves, Casandra Nova, Omega Red, Dark Phoenix, Proteus, Senator Kelly, Adversary, Ahab, Arcade, Azazel, Belasco, Cyber, Danger, Deathbird, Lucifer, Gauntlet, Erik the Red, Mesmero, Living Monolith, Pandemic, Ord, Romulus, Wild Child, Shadow King, Silver Samurai, Sugar Man, X-cutioner, Viper, Wendigo, the Beyonder, Skrulls, Xorn, Hydra, the Hand, High Evolutinary his New Men and Knights of Wundagore, the Dark X-men, the Blob, Chthon, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, Dracula and his Vampires and Creatures of the Night, the Serpant Society, Wither, John Sublime, Count Nefaria, Chimera, Emplate, Eli Bard, The Changeling, Black Tom Cassidey, Xarus, the Enclave, Garokk, Archangel, the Inner Circle, the Evolutionaries, Black Womb, Ani-Matter, the Tattooed Man, Ogun, Daken, Gorgon, Etc, Etc, Etc…

  7. Wow SONY sucks!
    What a STUPID idea!

  8. I like the idea of a Venom stand alone. It gives them time to give his entire story. He was a hero at the beginning when he was attached to Peter. Im curious who be under the symbiotic clothing. I just hope they tell a good story unlike, the Agents of Shield tv series.

  9. Whether it’ll suck or rock – only the end product can tell. Whether we like it or not – it will come to past. A billion bucks is not a trivial thing.

  10. Yeahhhh this seems like a strange decision. I always thought Venom and Sinister Six would just be incorporated into future Spiderman films, not standalone adventures. We’ll see what happens.

    • Not really a strange decision at all.

      Despite them using words like, “boundless” and a “wealth of stories”, the fact is they are quite limited. They have one actual hero, a handful of neutrals (we don’t even know which ones) and a rogues gallery. This leaves them very few options to explore w/o access to the rest of the Marvel universe, leaving them with no other alternatives than to work with that villain pool they have.

  11. When I first heard about the possibility of this taking shape, I was under the impression that Venom and the Sinister Six would be headlining / stealing Spiderman’s thunder in TAS3&4 respectively. I don’t see any reason for Sony to branch out and artificially extending the franchise, since both the symbiote and the evil team-up are necessarily connected to the web slinger.

    Venom should have gotten his origin story told in TAS3, then confront Spiderman, beat him and flee. Then, Spiderman gets beaten AGAIN by the Sinister Six, which makes Venom join him to take them down by the fifth installment. After that, bring in Carnage for the sixth and last movie. To me, that would sound like a natural progression with a satisfying pay-off.

  12. Venom without Spidey could easily work in my opinion. All the ingredients are there to make it a great film, provided his intro in (presumably) Spiderman 3 is handled well

    I love the sinster six but I would be sceptical on a project only involving them. Maybe they could got he line of the original Thunderbolts, pretending to be new heroes then revealing to be villians. I dont know. Probably wouldnt work on screen. Whatever they do I hope they dont do a Raimi and have most if not all realize the evils of their ways and repent. so lame.

    I would love it, but highly doubt it, if they adapted the current “Superior Foes of Spiderman” comic into a film. Seriously one if the best comics in years. Do yourself a favour and check it out (from issue 1)

    • Yeah that book is hilarious, funnier than any sitcom on the air. Venom stand alone can work easily. I am not sure about the Sinister Six though, if they want to kill Spidey in the third film, Venom and/or Scarlet Spider should appear in the Sinister 6 film.

  13. I don’t know what to think. A stand alone venom movie while interesting, can’t work at least the first one without spidey. Good luck to them. And if this pans out for sony maybe other studios will take a different path to CBM. What I would like to see is an elseworld DC film like gotham by gaslight. Something that has no connection to the shared universe and has different leads would be great. Or a marvel what if line from Disney.

  14. The idea for a Sinister Six movie is very interesting. This would probably be the first CBM based solely on the villain(s). I wouldn’t exactly count Venom because he’s been on the fence of good and bad at some points I think.

    I’m picturing an Avengers type 360 around the Sinister 6 Six, ha ha.

  15. Think of the Osborn angle when he had the Thunderbolts etc. He tried to take some villians and make them heroes even though they were still villians.

    Or even a Suicide Squad angle type thing.

    It can work.

  16. I’ll end up watching all this but honestly how can they make the first venom movie without Spider-Man? I’m all for villainous spin offs but give the tasm universe some time to develope TASM 2 isn’t even out yet.

  17. OK, a Venom spin-off would work if the villain was Carnage (or perhaps Toxin) but aside from that…don’t think it’ll work. I love Venom, HUGE fan of his story and character, but the only enemy Venom could really have IS Carnage. When they announced the Venom spin-off from Raimi’s work, I was skeptical because we’d already seen Venom killed, so doing a spin-off would seem a bit…well for lack of a better word stupid. But here Venom hasn’t appeared or died, but the actors playing Flash Thompson and Harry Osborn (the two most well-known Venom hosts) I can’t see as leading a film.

    So unless they wanna recast Thompson or (better yet) Osborn, I think they’ll have their work cut out for them.

  18. Hey, if they need heroes to help fight the Sinister Six, they could always lend Spider-man out to Marvel so they can use him in one of their movies in exchange for them lend Sony a villain or two to help take on the Sinister Six.

  19. Hey, if they need heroes to help fight the Sinister Six, they could always lend Spider-man out to Marvel so they can use him in one of their movies in exchange for them lending Sony a hero or two to help take on the Sinister Six.

  20. I love this story. A Venom spin-off is actually what I have been looking for. A Sinister six movie seems interesting, but not without Spider-Man. All in all, villain movies should be made more.

  21. It’s early but I have to say I’m surprised by the luke-warm reception this is getting in the comments.
    I was under the impression this is what everyone was hoping for all along.
    We’ll now have an expanded Spiderman Universe that will focus on the whole lot.
    Villains and Heros will be given equal share and for once it seems as though risks will be taken.
    It’s easy to just keep making Spiderman movies until they fade out and then reboot it 5yrs later. Sony is taking a huge risk and giving Venom and Sinister Six equal treatment and have brought in some serious talent to do so.
    This is GREAT news folks. Rejoice. Our dreams are coming true.

    • +1! I’m right with you dude

    • Whoa whoa whoa…….I still do not have Kate Beckinsale naked in my bed……my dreams havent come true yet.

    • Surprised me too, why is the reaction to this news so negative? :S

    • COMPLETELY AGREE!!!!!

      WHO WOULDN’T WANT A VENOM MOVIE!!!!!!!

    • Also,
      For years now when talk has been about what different studios were doing with their properties a constant complaint especially about WB/DC for example was that they didn’t have a plan or that they didn’t seem to be looking as far ahead as Marvel was or even why didn’t they hire an architect like Marvel has?
      Sony has done just that and dare I say has gone one step further.
      Not only are they announcing the movies we will see but they already have the talent in place. You now have a group of 5 or 6 writers, directors and producers working together to bring all this about.
      That sounds like a pretty solid plan to me…

  22. Awesome about Venom but Rhino ? A guy in the giant robo rino ? Whats happened to his RHINO suit like in the comic ? It is so wrong. :(

  23. A Sinister Six movie could be potentially amazing- like a commenter said above, no CBM has ever focused on the bad guys. If that’s the way they went with it it would be ground breaking. Why so much hate for this???

  24. I’ve known about the Vemon spin-off for years just glad it’s finally announced :) surprised about the sinister six though

  25. Realistically, Garfield isn’t going to stick around forever, right? I mean after the standard 3 films Sony needs a new plan… one that can do service to their film universe continuity as well as the crying fans we see hear.. their best bet is to introduce a new actor/character in the form of Venom, just before Andrew Garfield bows out. In a way to organically continue this film series. The Sinister Six film, like said in another comment, can be an all out charecter brawl film a la Avengers. This way Spidey will still show up and Garfield wont get tired of headling ALL of the Spider-Man movies….
    Uh..Da-Doyy

  26. *here

  27. Venom stand alonw should be pretty good. I hope they just introduce Carnage, but dont make him the big villain (yet).

    Sinister Six is a very inriguing idea. I like the thought of a movie told from the villain side instead of the hero side.

    Amazing Spider-Man 4 is where Carnage should really come into the foreground. They could do it like this……..

    1) Amazing Spider-Man 3, have Eddie Brock get locked up in prison, after having being defeated as Venom with the symbiote being seperated from him, with his cell mate being Cletus Cassidy.
    2) Venom Movie, have the Symbiote break Brock out of Jail and start out as a crazy guy bent on defeating spider-man, but having other things (dont really care what) get in his way and have him become the hero. During the above jailbreak scene, show Cassidy being knocked to the floor getting cut and bruised by the falling debris, and show the symbiote being slightly torn leaving a drop to fall into Cassidy’s open wound.
    3) Amazing Spider-Man 4, have a Maximum Carnage story line where Venom, Spidey, Black Cat (and any other hero they can legally use) need to team up to take on Carnage, Shriek, Doppelganger and the rest of Carnage’s group (Obviously have the movie build up to this with quality back story and good reasons for those people to want to be with him).

    I think just throwing Carnage out there because the Venom movie is being made would be a bad idea. He needs to be set up right.

  28. Sounds awfully familiar *cough* Deathstroke and Suicide Squad *cough*

    In all seriousness, I’m looking forward to a Venom movie, but a bunch of supervillains doesn’t sound so good. The Suicide Squad, at least for the most part, isn’t really a super powered group, so it’s basically a bunch of very talented villains.

  29. Sinister Six could be a spin of Superior Foes of Spider-Man, focusing on members of the Sinister Six, establishing the untold origins, and if Spiderman is involved he can be made the antagonist and anyone can play him because the mask never comes off.