You can’t mess with a Star Trek fan.

P.S. Let me know if I’m becoming too much of a thread hawk.

It’s your site; I don’t want to step on anyone’s toes.

No worries, I deleted his comment. Thanks for pointing it out.

Vic

Calling people dorks and nerds is just plain mean.

Galaxy Quest was a good movie BTW.

The Hermes scout class’ design was also used for a “destroyer, escort or frigate” (quote from Memory Alpha wiki) class, called the Saladin class.

There was also one more federation warp-capable ship, with a different design, from the old ST Tech Manual: a “tugboat” type ship, called he Ptolemy class. It had a design (very) superficially resembling the later “Reliant” style frigate, with 2 nacelles below the primary hull on very long pylons, a nav deflector dish (like the one on the Hermes/Saladin classes) projecting out of the bottom of the “saucer section”. The tug had no secondary hull (only the saucer), but it did still have the ventral “connector neck”, which was used to connect to detachable cargo units (which were long cylinders, so resembled a secondary hull); one cargo unit coupled to the neck, and further cargo units were strung off the back of that unit, in a chain.

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That’s the secondary or engineering hull. It’s usually below the primary hull (disc) but in this case they put it on top.

Vic

Many may not know this, but when John Jefferies originally designed the TOS Enterprise in 1964, the layout was all over the map; for example, the saucer was at first a smaller-diameter sphere, the power units were connected to the primary hull, the name was Constitution, Independence, and the nsme Enterprise was settled on only later (suggested by an old friend of Roddenberry’s who served on the old Enterprise of the Yorktown class, also, the world’s first nuclear-powered supercarrier, CVN Enterprise, had just come on line), the registry # NCC-1701 was the tail number of a friend’s private airplane (and became the ‘Naval Construction Contract’ number), and most striking of all, once the layout was finally settled (saucer, engineering hull, & 2 nacelles)…it was upside down!

Jefferies called Roddenberry to come down & look at his final brilliant design, and when old Gene saw it, he smiled and said, That’s it! With one change, though…and then proceeded to flip it inverted, with the saucer at the top & the secondary hull at bottom. That’s the way the public saw it in it’s final form, as we all know it today.

Roddenberry also did this with the Reliant (’Miranda’ class), for the movie STII, ‘Wrath of Khan’ – it was originally designed with the weapons pod & megaphasers & the angle walls on the bottom, & nacelles up top.

I do like the Kelvin, it is a shorter-dorsal version of the Hermes & Saladin class (scout & destoyer) classes found in the original Starfleet Tech Manual, released in the early 80s, with the addition of a superior secondary hull. The Hermes & Saladin ships located the main sensor dish on a strut protruding vertically right out of the lower sensor dome, almost directly in front of the Bussard hydrogen ram collector (that big, glowing red dome). This is better; it has balls. Also, it increases the internal habitable volume by half-again.

JOHN

This is all from Gene’s words in a dvd interview I have…
I love Lucy!

Oh my gosh! You’re right… the Trek and I Love Lucy themes ARE incredibly similar, lol!

Vic

Vic

hahahahahah… Star Trek dildo

Priceless