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  • Does money made by a movie really say anything of the quality? The Hannah Montana and Jonas Brothers franchises make a lot of money too, you know.
  • INK
    ^^^^ Touché.
  • @Datashmuck

    They also release films on FAR more screens than they used to.

    Vic
  • gottarhyme
    We pay $15-$18 in OZ. That translates to roughly $13-$15US.
    I tend to wait for them to come out on Box office or DVD now, unless its something I really HAVE to see, like Harry Potter, or Star Trek.

    Some films have to be experienced with a theatre full of strangers to be enjoyed.
  • Daniel F
    DataSchmuck a lot of places are still roughly 6 for matinee. In my city they are 5.50. Regular price to get in is 8.50 and has been for 10 years over here as well or right around there I think in the last 10 years they went from 8 to 8:50.

    Anyway if you go to Boxofficemojo.com they show the adjusted top 100 movies of all time. It's not 100% accurate they even admit it on the site if you do a little digging, but it's as close as you'll get.
  • jago
    @dataschmuck

    well i don't know where you live... but most of the place i go matinee prices are still 5 to 6 dollars and i live in New York.
  • DataSchmuck
    Has anyone else ever thought about the fact that these new movies are breaking box office record profits because every year ticket prices go up by a few dollars? Do the numbers take into account inflation?

    For instance maybe 5 or 6 years ago, matinee prices were around 5 to 6 dollars. Now they are 10 to 12 dollars. So if today's movie only sells a little more than half the tickets of older movies, it breaks the box office records! That doesn't seem right!

    What if they started measuring by number of tickets sold? I'd like to see those numbers.
  • LikeItMuch
    @Fury2701

    hahahahahaha
  • Fury2701
    CAPSBOY has spoken.

    End of discussion. Goodnight.
  • GUNSMITH
    DOESNT MATTER WHAT WE SAY BAD OR GOOD...IF THE MOVIE MADE MONEY ITS ALL THAT COUNTS IN HOLLYWOODS EYES..TRANSFORMERS2 MADE ALOT OF MONEY.
  • Daniel F
    It is possible for Transformers to be better if Abrams made it, but at the same time remember Abrams isn't flawless some of his movies are not great either. Also at the end of the day no matter who sits in that chair it will still be a movie about giant alien robots that turn in to cars. It can only be so good.
  • gottarhyme
    Give me back my $15 Michael Bay! to.
  • JessSayin'
    @Vic

    As Gaff said to Deckard at the end of Blade Runner,

    "You've done a MAN'S job, sir"

    Keep it up. Forget the nay-sayer's, like you said, We can't fire you....You're the boss!
  • piratedan
    just think in 20 years, we get to look forward to movies involving guys who use playing cards in games that come to life!

    ....still waiting on the live action Jonny Quest movie to be announced...with Shia LeBeefsteak as Race Bannon!
  • LikeItMuch
    I can't help but laugh at this, all the drama this movie has caused between everyone. It's hillarious I think I'd agree that the story lines faulty, but most movies are! But I'm not gona say anything else, just that Vic your the man! Hahaha I believe “angel dust” was true when he said that you’re a tricky fellow haha
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    Yes there is, humaaan.....a petaQ who thinks this movie is honorable!!! :-)

    You're killing me Fury! 8)
  • Fury2701
    No, no, no Mr. Kahless. This is not a laughing matter.

    If we have any expectations in regards to a "summer pop-corn movie" then we could easily be called snobs and elitists.

    And you know better than I - there's nothing worse then a Klingon Elitist.
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    @Fury
    ROTFLMBO!!!
  • Fury2701
    Ka' pla! to Kahless!

    A brillant suggestion.

    A Transformers movie we could ALL be proud of.

    Robots with personality, humans showing true emotion, all with great CGI effects AND a plot.

    No wait - that's way too much to expect. What's the matter with me? I must have lost my mind. Expecting great action and great story in the same movie. Idiot I am . . . .
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    I wonder what would have happened if Transformers had Abrams. Think of the possibilities! Keep the incredible CGI, better acting, far better humor, no stupid sexual jokes, and robots that actually act like alien robots. That movie would be the greatest money-maker of all time.
  • Fury2701
    Not to bash Bay again and praise the writers but it goes to show you what the producers and directors can do to a movie.

    If you have Abrams and good writers you get Star Trek.

    If you have Bay and good writers you get Tranformers II.

    What would have happened if Bay had bad writers . . .
  • Phil G
    Also, I had no idea both Transformers and Star Trek were written by the same people. That's bizarre.

    I guess it's true that more than just writing goes into the making of these movies.
  • Phil G
    @ viper moon

    I wouldn't get my hopes too high for G.I.Joe not sucking...

    I do have to say, this summer has almost felt like one huge bust. I never would have expected Star Trek to be the best movie to have come out of all the movies I was eagerly anticipating.
  • T.
    The more I think about Transformers II the more I hate it. I'll never sit through that again. People at work keep telling me the movie was great and made perfect sense. Mankind may be nearing its end.
  • Daniel F
    I screen rant is the only site I like. I use to use comicbookmovie like crazy then I found this place and it's my new home.

    I'm not a fan of Abrams I find him to be way over rated, but Trek was great. I was shocked. Because I'm not a big fan of him and I hate the original Trek series with a passion. However the new Trek was great.

    I don't get the appeal of Shoot Em up. I forget his name, but the main bad guy in it is an amazing actor and it sucks to see him do a movie like that, but he's done worse and I think he just takes any role he can get. Because he has done some real stinkers. Shoot em up was ok to me, but nothing special. It was just one of those overly violent to over compensate for something else movies.
  • viper moon st1
    Vic is right folks seen Dark Knight 5 times,Star Trek 3 times Transformers II once was enuff they cram a whole lot of G1,G2,and the Pretender Bot no acting,and a lot of Boom I just hope that G.I. Joe don't suck!
  • KEL
    Andy, I agree. And I would kinda like it if Abrams took another shot at Superman. His script from before was terrible, but that was before he was Abrams. ;-)

    And the rant IS the best movie site on the net! :-D
  • Andy S
    @Kel...

    That is why I hope that Abrams is on board for the Trek sequels. I pray, PRAY that someone like Bay isn't at the helm for the sequels.

    As to this article. I have not seen this film and I will probably wait until I get it through Netflix. I tend to agree with Vic about alot of the films he reviews (although I did enjoy the first Transformers). Vic is usually fair and I have to laugh at the people who call him biased. I've said it before, but this is the best movie blog on the web.

    Oh, and "Shoot 'em Up" was awesome. I'd love to see a sequel to that flick!
  • KEL
    I know. It's like they're not even trying, lol. But I think Abrams helped a lot more than just the directing area with Trek. In the hands of someone else, the Trek film may have been Trensformers. Who knows?
  • INK
    "You want to watch a smart action movie with some actual substance, sharp dialogue, engaging characters and stories, AND great action sequences, go see Star Trek. Movie of the year."

    Funny that both were written by the same duo.
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