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  • TheDen
    And furthermore, can someone(s) please drop the race accusations? I mean, seriously, it's getting to the point of grabbing onto just about anything & calling it offensive anymore.

    Why is the stuff involving the Twins "racist"? Why, because they talk slang? So black folks are the only folks in urban America? I'm asking this AS a black man, myself! So, black people are the only ones who speak slang? What, so because the Twins aren't fans of "reading", as they put it, that's a black thing too?

    Sounds to me as if the people making these accusations are the ones guilty of the very things they're accusing the movie-makers of, in this case. No one in the film said they were "talking black". Their way of speaking had nothing to do with a COLOR.

    Were some of you on the high horse when the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were big? Were you moaning "racism" then, when they were running around yelling "KOWABUNGA DUDE!!! TOTALLY AWWWWESOME!"? Were you accusing THEM of unfairly racially stereotyping surfer white boys? But the moment someone goes "Yo, yo, yo", suddenly it's a race thing.

    Not everyone who speaks that way is black, nor is everyone yelling "Totally rad!!!" white. Stop bringing color into it. Take the 5 seconds & remember that Transformers adapt to the various dialects of Earth. Which is why Ironhide & Sideswipe have BRITISH accents, why the little "Doctor" Decepticon had a German accent, and why Jazz from Movie 1 spoke urban slang (anyone remember that, or does that require too much thought?). They adapt to surroundings & dialects - not colors. No different from the Turtles, years ago.
  • gottarhyme
    Hey,

    respectfully 'Sir Ink', when men and women are finally treated equally in all arenas of the media, including film, and men's bodies are used gratuitously with a focus on slow motion genatalia (big ones, not the miniscule) running at me on the screen for MY personal enjoyment as a woman, THEN and only then are you entitled to claim that women are sexist.

    Until then, I can assume that Megan Fox's slow motion chestathon was for the enjoyment and, dare I say it? 'Titillation' of a men only crowd. And if you DARE split hairs to say that gay women would enjoy it too, not only are you missing the whole 'sexist' ( Men are from Mars, women are from Venus) complaint that I am aiming specifically at men who think its OK to see women, mothers and sisters treated like meat on screen.

    The fact that this is being billed as a 'children's movie' and that women are represented to young children that way, as 'entertainment' is offensive not only to me, but a few other men I know as well.
  • INK
    "... racism ..."

    I agree. The mother in this movie was portrayed as a crazy white person and as a crazy white person, that offends me.
  • INK
    "The masses lead by the big boys with little toys have spoken!"

    Sexist.
  • Foopher
    It was megatron that "killed" optimus right?

    at the end of the first one optimus calls him his brother. wouldn't that make megatron a prime?
  • Foopher
    "Bumblebee was not shiny when he first met Sam."

    I know :) . I'm just saying that now he transforms into a shiny car. Or at least that's the way i look at it. i tend to do that with movies so that anything that doesn't make sense makes sense to me.
  • gottarhyme
    Bring on the sexism, racism, and toilet humour. The masses lead by the big boys with little toys have spoken!

    Yeeeee! haaaaaa!
  • INK
    "I am going to start quoting Karl Marx and resurrect the goosestep to start invading the Rhineland!"

    Too late we already have Obama.

    Saw Transformers 2 last night. I thought it was a great action flick.
    Exactly what I wanted from a movie with giant transforming robots. Kick-butt action. Where there parts that made my brother and I roll our eyes ... of course But who cares, overall a lot of fun.
  • gottarhyme
    Cover me in paper cuts and dip me in lemon juice!

    If I hear one more person exclaim that 'the masses have spoken!' I am going to start quoting Karl Marx and resurrect the goosestep to start invading the Rhineland!

    I think that in five years time we won't even remember this film. 10 more 'blockbusters' will have made a squillion dollars by then, and 'the masses' will be bleating about how wonderful the 'Watching paint dry' film ROCKED!!!!
  • Wickamo
    Yeah....whatever.......I'm going to go see it again tonight!!!
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    @Foopher
    So I guess the Fallen lied to Megatron when he said Optimus was the last Prime.

    Bumblebee was not shiny when he first met Sam.

    @790
    Kind of. Just showing some of the problems. :-)
  • INK
    SInce when does a movie have to be FOX NEWS? (Fair and Balanced)

    For Pete's sake ... it's E-N-T-E-R-T-A-I-N-M-E-N-T!

    Some people, myself included, are entertained by mind-numbing action and sexploitation of women. My everyday work life is stressful enough, I don't need a movie that is depressing, boring and/or slower than a drive I-95 during construction time. Not that is all I watch, but in the summer it is what I look forward to.
  • ComicFanatic
    This movie sucked and was garbage. If i wanted to watch a flick like this i would have stayed at home and watch southpark or a van dam flick.

    The first one was balanced with humor, action, and story.
    this was full blown unbalanced
  • jago
    oh i saw public enemies on the midnight showing... i know its good... i was just curious about the review
  • @jago

    we won't be reviewing Bruno but I can tell you Public Enemies was pretty good.

    Vic
  • jago
    @vic
    did you not read the second comment i made...?

    ill paste it underneath... you might want to re-check it just in case you think i'm lying and stuff but here you go...

    “fair and balanced”…hilarious shiny… either way still happy that there will be more movies like this where you’ll have to sit through it… now thats “fair and balanced”. Still love the site though for those who like to jump and out and tell people to go to another site.

    Only thing was that there was an error when i said jump and out when it was just supposed to be jump out but either way still love the site just get a kick out of you not enjoying transformers... can't wait till the next movie you dislike that i like... for instance "bruno"...lol. Oh and public enemies was really good when are you going to put up that review...?
  • 790
    Bay knows the demo he needs to make big bucks and also how to capture the 6 second attention span of his fans. In that regard he's a talented mofo. Kind of like cinemas Simon Cowell.

    From what I'm reading on all these reviews/comments is that the film is a lol, robot fantasy in living CGI brilliance. Not to be taken seriously as anything more than the (Armageddon) movie of the summer.

    Kahless are you kidding me with the "new paint clearcoat beef?" ;-)
  • @jago

    Feel free to find another movie site to frequent, there are certainly enough to choose from out there if you think this one is so horrible.

    Vic
  • Casey
    I came to this movie and got what I wanted: Robot Battles. I didn't expect a great plot like every critic on this planet, I expected Transformers, a movie based off a cartoon. A cartoon I love and adore, with just as much love and admiration for the toys. It was basically Ultimate Fighting but with Robots, and Megan Fox as the ring-side girl and just as barbaric as awesome. This movie has the best Robot fights since Rock-em-Sock-em Robots, and yes, my mind was blown and my socks were rocked off...and I liked it.
  • Foopher
    "only a Prime can defeat a Prime"

    optimus wasn't a direct prime and he wasn't defeated. he came back.

    "dints and scratches in robot mode but are like brand spanking new in vehicle mode"

    they are TRANSFORMERS. they transform into shiny cars
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    And can someone tell me how they have dints and scratches in robot mode but are like brand spanking new in vehicle mode, and then when they change to robot mode again the dints and scratches are back?
  • bencherstyle
    jesus, this is one of the worst movies of my LIFE.

    i left 30 minute before the ending. i did not care. and usually i have to finish movies.... well.. at least i got my money back :)

    but... where are my 2 hours? hope they make Transformers 3 better... i hope.... and please don't ruin ST2....
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    I have to admit, Optimus was a beast in this movie.

    ****** SPOILER BELOW ******

    But one of the problems with the movie was "only a Prime can defeat a Prime". Who killed Optimus?
  • man can we get some other news in besides transformers.
    it was dumb. they should have adopted the 2004 comic into the screen. that had more heart and emotion then all sexual puns combined in these 2 movies.
    i loved my constructicon toys..and i think i was cheated of what could have been. its simple. bay dosn't like transformers.
    he just likes money.
    lets face it you knowing this movie is pointless bang bang is fine. at least you know that. for me drag me to hell was my popcorn movie. but there are people who think this movie is much more than that.

    just gets me angry thinking this movie was made more for the toy lovers.

    check out a pic of optimus prime vs devastator from the dreamwave comic... pick it up if u liek transformers gen 1
    http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:DWPrimeDirective5_...
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    Critics don't win or lose, they give opinions. ROTF had some fun elements with the CGI, action, and that little girl we all know, but it had little else for me. I can't win or lose for that opinion. I bought the first Transformers and might buy this one as well; I will just fast-forward to the good parts. :-)
  • ogb
    @INK

    Yes! I would rather watch Transformers ROTF 20 times than watch The Reader again.

    I got nothing out of THE READER. Well, actually I went away feeling really depressed and bored after watching that. Entertainment value should be included in EVERY movie. Yes Transformers exaggerated the entertainment value too much but it was still freaking fun.

    It does come down to taste but c'mon. Oscar movies are, in general, pretty "high horse" or snobby. Not all. But a lot of the front runners are.

    I saw Transformers, I enjoyed it, had a great time with my friends and the audience. Walked out and for the most part forgot it. All I remember was a "fun" feeling. A movie should be somewhat like that.
  • Jeremy
    Transformers Revenge of the Fallen was AWESOME.
    The Critics lose this one, big time.
    I'll see it a few more times just to make the
    critics upset that they don't have mind control
    over me or millions of other Transformers fans.
  • Gary
    I cant wait for Transformers 3: Revenge Of The Audience.
  • dannyboy
    Finally saw it and have mixed feelings about it... But next time the movie name has a character name it, don't make him such a pansy. It would have been better to call this one Transformers The Revenge Of Michael Bay. I would love to see a third installment, but with fresh writers and a new director. But honestly I rather enjoyed the 2.5 hour long GM (GOVERNMENT MOTORS)with the Jar Jar Binks twins and the slowly bouncing Megan Fox. I knew what to expect with this one, so I really lowered my expectations... and actually walked out with a half-assed grin on my face......
  • 1. Knew it would rock!

    2. Saw that it did rock!

    3. Continue to think it rocked!

    'Nuff said.
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