Transfomers 3: Michael Bay Ponders How to Make it Good

Published 4 years ago by , Updated February 15th, 2014 at 4:26 pm,

I’m usually a pretty good barometer for how the majority of moviegoers feel about an upcoming film, but in the case of Transformers 3 I’m mystified. There’s been such a divisive split between those who hated Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen and those who think they loved it, that now I don’t know how many of you want to see a third installment (if only hoping one last time that it’s done right) – and those of you who cringe at the knowledge that Revenge of The Fallen made so much money Transformers 3 is going to happen no matter what.

Either way, one guy who already has his mind on Transformers 3 is Michael Bay, and he’s wondering how to outdo himself by actually proving that he can do more than make glossy, explosive, senseless sun-tanned spectacles for the screen. Buried in the special features of the Revenge of The Fallen Blu-ray, Bay talks about his early thoughts for the next chapter in Transformers.

There’s a video of Bay’s whole spiel from the Blu-ray feature up on YouTube. I won’t post it here, but if you want to get the gospel from the preacher’s mouth (wow, I might be going to hell for saying that) just check out the vid OVER HERE.

I want to believe Bay’s words in that video, really I do. He drops a few buzz words that I definitely wanted to hear – ‘smaller-scale,’ ‘darker,’ ‘more about the robot characters,’ ‘less exposed,’ ‘more undercover,’ ‘emotion’ – he seems more intent on telling an actual story (even if it is the Sam/Bumblebee bromance, pt. 3), and I genuinely think the crazy (and chaotic) scope of Transformers 2 was too much even for Bay’s liking (if that’s possible). However, right now I’m one of those people who is skeptical about this franchise’s ability to deliver a truly all-around good movie;  I just love Transformers too much to give up all hope.

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What do you think about Michael Bay’s early thoughts about Transformers 3? Is he going in the right direction (does he even have direction)? Are you already excited for the next chapter, or are you taking this next installment to be a true omen that the end times are nigh?

Transformers 3 will be in theaters on July 1, 2011.

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  1. Why couldn’t Bay have pondered this before making the first two movies? I cannot believe they made as much money as they did. Was that really supposed to be Jet Fire in that movie? Wow. What was with the twin robots from the ‘hood?

  2. I heard that he doesn’t want to touch the Dinobots at all. Actually, after seeing what he did to the Constructicons, I think it’s a good idea he leave them alone. I’m really looking forward to Bay walking away from this. It’s just too bad we have to suffer through one more before Hasbro can contemplate re-doing the franchise with a new vision perhaps.

  3. never knew he said he hated the cartoon. that really makes no sense as to why he would take on the directing role. I don’t have a huge problem with how most of the them looked, they wanted to give them a sleaker look than the boxy one of the cartoons. I do recall beards or even mustaches on some of the cartoon transformers.
    devastator did kind of blow though. wasn’t a fan of the twins either.

  4. I don’t think the amount of money the movies made is the best barometer for how people feel about the movie. There was a huge original fan base to begin with, so naturally the first movie was going to make bank regardless. I think the 2nd movie made bank only because we were all hoping that Bay would have done a much better job than the 1st one. That pretender chick was the low of the 2nd movie. Or was it Jetfire’s cane? Or the pretzel-thin Fallen?

  5. @cantizzle, I think you’re right and that some characters in the cartoon did have mustaches, beards, etc. I’d rather not have seen them in the movie, though. Doesn’t make much sense. Devastator vs. Dinobots was huge in the cartoon…it would have been nice to see that on film. I’m sure it’s difficult to incorporate a lot of this stuff into the movies, but some of the things Bay decided to do with them just left many of us scratching our heads.

  6. I’m guessing this franchise is probably more difficult to translate onto film than the typical superhero movies just with the cgi alone and the incredible detail that each character has (not to mention the numerous characters there are). At the same time, I wouldn’t mind seeing this franchise done differently. The original characters may have looked “boxy” as someone pointed out earlier, but that is the look of the original Japanese style robots. I wouldn’t mind seeing someone else with that particular vision take the helm, but wishful thinking on my part.

  7. I would have to assume their new look is also attributed to the manufacturing of the toys as well. I recall reading somewhere before the first movie, that Hasbro had a part in the new look, because they wanted to make sure they could work as toys with their transformations.

  8. Bay should be commeded for the work he put in and sticking to his vision, albeit a questionable one. I put the blame on Hasbro for not laying down the foundation before hiring a director. Marvel studios seems very much to be taking that approach.

  9. O I have never heard of a pretender before thanx and my bad, I knew I wasn’t sure bout Soundwave, but wheelie did switch over to the autobots didn’t he,

    @Chrisj
    yea but the twins still made me laugh like when they messed with Leo and got into fights with eachother

  10. BayNoWay says:
    November 9, 2009 at 11:33 am
    Bay has completely changed the look and feel of the TF in a bad way

    I totaly can’t agree to you.. this just mean you dont want to grow up and you just hate bay like everyone else

    The way i see the this movie is far better in acceptance as an adult or a kid.

    the cartoons are meant to be the way they are 25 years ago.

    Yes bay was never a fan and was never keen in the begining when spielberg droped it on his lap…but interest struck in when he began to think of the potential.
    when you are in the business in making money…that is what matters…all of us fans dont.

    BUT i must attest that what he has achieved is by far satisfactory.
    lets not bench mark on TF2 for i may agree there were many flaws to accept but.. in terms of the look and feel …i’d say this is much better.

    do you really wanna see a cartoonish robot in real life?

    I have mentioned this before..
    Our TF cartoons have much holes as compared to this…so if we can accept the cartoon and love them so much..i just dont so the point of everybodies bickering.

    take bumblebee for example…i like this camaro look cause it totaly move BB from looking like a fat kid with a viking hat to a rad and cool looking robot alien friend.

    all the logic in designing these robots are totally far out.

    and talking about the dinobots…if you could sketch up a design on how grimlock and his minion would look like in real life and send it to mr spielberg..and if he likes it…you may have your wish.. but if i am a part of the team i may share their views and may not consider it as of yet until there is a need to tie them in for a story.

    the way i look at it..those who oppose to all of bay’s TF works are just not satisfied because of TF2..

    can we just move on? this is not entirely his fault!

    he is the director who was a non fan…and what do you get from a guy who is converted into this beloved religion of ours 3 years ago compared to us who has followed it for the past 25 years?

    yes he may be calling the shots…but if you put yourself in his shoes…then i think we may have a movie TF just the way you want it to be..if you can survive answering all of the worlds TF worshipers…care to take the throne from bay?

    if not lets all reserve our hatethreats to ourselves and just move on…

    now we have TF3 on its way…and i definately know deep down Bay wants to improve..we shall see.

    nobody is perfect. even flamboyant bay himself…

  11. @robotics – Bay’s attempt at TF is like your attempt at writing in English. Seriously, it was brutal.

    I do like Bay’s horror remakes from a producer’s role like Amityville, TexasChainsaw, Friday the 13th, etc. I just don’t like his version of TFs. It doesn’t mean I don’t want to grow up as you suggested. It doesn’t mean I want to see a cartoonish version of the movie as you implied. I disagree with you about the fans not mattering. When it comes to these types of movies that already have a built-in fan base, the fans do matter. It’s why Marvel and DC/WB listen to fan reaction to a large degree. They want to do it right by the fans. They don’t always produce the right results unfortunately, but at least they try. You can’t say the same for Bay, but I do like his work that is non-TF.

    You said you “definately know deep down Bay wants to improve.” How do you know that? Did you talk to him? You also said that “it’s not entirely his fault.” Well, then who’s fault is it? Shia’s? I mean, Bay is the director.

  12. “definitely know deep down Bay wants to improve.”

    Apparently he doesn’t, because he’s rushing this film, like the second film was.

  13. If Bay really wanted to improve, then he would slow down and take his time on the film. What Bay he needs to learn is a little concept called “QUALITY OVER QUANTITY”.

  14. Baynoway,

    all i am pointing out is that this TF is not a disaster by Bay!

    i respect that everyone is entitle to his or her views but let it be a constructive critism..

    you and like you throw spits on him like as if he personaly jack u up in the @r$e.

    “You can’t say the same for Bay”
    Are you kidding me? its the same for him like many other. if you are gonna say Bay is the only one stinking like a carcass then i am gonna say you have just downgrade the man even lower than the guy who directed Dragonball!…and you feel dragonball was much enlightening compare to Transformers?

    “It doesn’t mean I don’t want to grow up as you suggested. It doesn’t mean I want to see a cartoonish version of the movie as you implied”

    Fine so how do you want it to be like? share with me maybe i can understand you better.

    let me ask you, have you ever directed something in your life as equivalent to scale as Bay? or any other big multi-million dollar job you can think off?
    have you ever single handedly spearheaded a project that requires sub divisions of many elements to achieve one goal? if you have, than im sure you can understand what i was trying to imply that it is not entirely his fault. which part of my english don’t you understand? Didn’t you know that this movie is tied up with a huge Toy and Auto company? so you think they don’t deserve a slice of the cake your throwing? i’m just laying down my facts to my arguement no offence. :)

    “They don’t always produce the right results unfortunately, but at least they try”

    Try? the word “try” does not always get accepted as an element to achieving success. so what you are trying say that its ok for other directors and not bay?
    Bay endured and sacrificed alot to get the movie to be the best level as possible, if he had “tried” then we would probably have optimus prime being voiced by James Earl Jones.

    when i say “deep down” i meant deep down in my feelings, my bad typo…just to be clear

    anyway if i had offended you somehow, then i apologize.

    but trully i just cant agree to say that this is bad as how you discribed it. mind you that i am also a loyal die hard fan of transformers and im pretty sure we all share the same taste of what we really love, unless that you are not a fan then i shall excuse myself from this conversation.

    Gigan300 says:
    November 10, 2009 at 11:44 am
    “definitely know deep down Bay wants to improve.”

    Apparently he doesn’t, because he’s rushing this film, like the second film was.

    - Just how do you benchmark on that factor? all project has datelines. that will be Bay’s challenge. you can’t simply judge on that.

    i take in consideration that it is definately tough to please the world so you just gotta give the guy a break.

    this is not the end for TF seriousely…

    Gigan300 says:
    November 10, 2009 at 11:56 am
    If Bay really wanted to improve, then he would slow down and take his time on the film. What Bay he needs to learn is a little concept called “QUALITY OVER QUANTITY”.

    i agree since we had just seen the second movie and made our views so this point will need to be considered.

    and yeah i talked to him on his Facebook.

  15. “do or do not, there is no try”

    i have never directed a movie, so no i can’t speak from first hand experience. i have however been in charge of my own projects and i know if that whatever level they come out to, reflects on me. Michael Bay has final say on a lot of what we see on the screen, so if it is crap that comes out, it is crap that he has supervised and approved.
    The biggest complaint i have seen, and my own included, is not with the transformers themselves, but with a lot of the other filler in the movie. I get it costs a lot of money and especially time to create the transformers. It doesn’t mean i need all the boring filler of human characters to make the movie hit the 2hr 20 minute mark.
    it just seems like a cash cow for him that he wants to ruch and make as soon as he can to get it over with, then move on to material he actually likes, such as Bad Boys 3.

  16. TACKLEING TRANSFORMERS IS A HUGE TASK, YOU WONT PLEASE EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY THE LOYALISTS AND DEEP ROOTED FANS OF G1..HECK IM A G1 LOYALIST. BUT SERIOUS TO THE POINT THE GUY HAS BEEN OFFERED THIS CHANCE, HE’LL DROWN OUT THE NEGATIVE STUFF, FOR SURE HE’S STAY AWAY FROM BLOGS..AND HE’LL DO WHAT HE DOES. HE HASNT GONE TOO FAR OVER TO THE POINT THE FANS WOULD BE UP IN ARMS LIKE WTF..BUT ITS SOMETING YOU CAN RELATE TO.BOTTOM LINE, HECK ID LIKE TO SEE TRANSFORMERS THAT LOOK LIKE THE OLDSCHOOL TRANSFORMERS, HECK I MISS THE TRANSFORMING SOUND THAT WAS ICONIC TO TRANSFORMERS, I WISH I COULD SEE JUST TRANSFORMERS THAT I IDENTIFIED AS THE COOLEST AND MOST MEMORABLE SOULY AND NOT SOME MADE UP ONES JUST RANDOMLY THROWN IN..ID LIKE TO SEE MAJOR EVENTS IN THE G1 HISTORY BE BROUGHT TO THE BIG SCREEN, UNICRON,DIFFRENT PLANETS, HEADMASTERS, TRUE HISTORY OF WHERE THEY ORIGINATED FROM(THEY WERE ROBOT SLAVES THAT UPRISED AND REBELED AGAINST THE QUINTASONS, SPACE PIRATE THUGS THAT USED THEM TO DO THEIR STUFF..DINOBOTS..JUST GIVE ME THOSE THINGS AND IM HAPPY..THE VOICES WITHT HE EXCEPTION OF OPTIMUS(HE’S THE MAN) I WASN’T ALL THE WAY HAPPY WITH.GIVE ME SAM ELLIOT FOR IRONHIDE..MAYBE MICHAEL J FOX FOR BUMBLEBEE..IF YOUR DOING SUCH A MAJOR MOVIE, GET MAJOR VOICE ACTORS..ANTHONY HOPKINS WOULD BE AN AWSOME ALPHA TRION AND TOMMY LEE JONES WOULD BE AN AWSOME ULTRAMAGNUS..

  17. @Robotic~

    “#9 the flat blade like thing formed out from mini bots of ravage – TF2 (did it have a name?)”

    Those tiny robots are called the Micronots and they come together to form Reedman. I found this on the Transformers Wikki site.

  18. @BayNoWay~

    You need to understand that no director no matter who they are is going to produde a Trasnformers film that everyone loves. There will always be the minority of movie watchers who think negatively of some adaptation of one of thier childhood loves.

    This time around you are in that minority and if you think I am full of it then take another look at them ticket sales. There’s no way a minority of the fans liked the film and it still make that kind of money.

    And please don’t reply back with criticism of my spelling on grammar; this is a movie forum and not AnalWritersAreUs.

  19. #1: Don’t ignore the fans but also don’t be suckered into appeasing them, the ones who see the orginal cartoon as the end all to everything in entertainment, simply for the sake of the same because these fan boys are gonna be critcial no matter what yo do because no one in tehir mind can do anything but harm to their childhood love.

    #2: Don’t rule in or out anything in the begining because you may short yourself if you do. Take the Dinobots as an example. Most including Michael believe theres no way to include them but that’s not true. Part 3 could easily staret off with a flash back to a poast event just as part 2 did but this time flash back to the age of the dinosaurs.

    #3: Most importantly do what you feel is right. Yoiu have been sucessful in both the orginal and more so in the sequel; a feat seldom done. Therefore trust your instincts but never rule out outside input and step back every now and then to make sure you haven’t lost focus under the preasure & hype.

    After all if you weren’t good enough for the job of part 3 then you wouldn’t have been for parts 1 & 2.

  20. This is how you could easily include the Dinobots in a way that would make sense and be really cool.

    MICHAEL BAY Productions presents:

    TRANSFORMERS 3
    THE WAR OF THE GODS

    IN THE BEGINNING:
    The Movie starts off with a flash back to millions of years ago. On the planet Earth we see a Prehistoric era where dinosaurs roamed the planet. Also here are a team of Large intelligent robots performing a survey. Among them are 3 distinct robot castes or classes; the warrior caste, the scientist caste and the worker caste. The worker robots are large and strong like the warriors robots but they aren’t too bright which is most likely why they are amongst the worker caste. The scientist robots are kind and encouraging to the workers, treating them as equals unlike the warrior caste who look down on both the Science & the worker class.

    FALL OF THE WARRIROR CASTE:
    Fast forward and one day while digging in a deep crevice one of the scientist comes across a major find; something he quickly shows he must be careful not to expose to any of the warrior caste nor the other scientists. With him are 3 -4 worker robots providing manual labor assistance. He decides to hide the object (which is small) inside one of the worker robots. While doing this he hears a loud explosion and another scientist comes running towards him. The warrior caste has split with part (calling themselves The Decepticons) attacking the other half by surprise and tacking control of the home planet. The scientist who came running realizes something is up and asks the other “Did you find it” and he replies” Yes I did but we must not let the so called Decepticons find it for they certainly will use it”. He then tells the other that he has hidden in one of the worker robots and has ordered all 3-4 of them to go hide in the great mountains in the distance. The other scientist who specializes in another science (whatever you want to call it ) decides that if they are going to ensure the Decepticons are not able to discover the object the worker cast must be able to blend into the surrounding environment, something very difficult for 50 foot tall robots to do on earth especially if they are slow mentally speaking. So this second scientist whips out some fancy device and aims it at the workers and transforms them into Dinosaurs. She explains to the other it is something she has been working on in her area and while it’s still unstable it will have to suffice.

    The scheme works because the remaining scientist leave the planet and the remaining Decepticons leave after trying to abstract from the scientist info on whether they found what they were looking for. The leader of the Decepticons on this planet decides that if they can’t posses the object then neither can their warrior counterparts, the Autobots. Therefore the remaining Decepticons fly to deep space and re-direct an asteroid to collide with and destroy the Earth. After they leave the asteroid plummets towards the Earth ready to annihilate it. When the workers were transformed they suffered a side effect from the change; they had the equivalent of a mind wipe and were convinced they are actually real Dinosaurs. When they see the asteroid coming they respond instinctively and without thinking by attacking the fireball with a n array of weapons that protrude from every part of their body. They manage to deflect & destroy enough of the asteroid that the planet is not destroyed but enough of it hits that the planet is thrown into a new dark/ice age and all the dinosaurs die off. Because the Dinobots believe they are real dinosaurs they eventually to fall down and in some way shutdown.

    WAR OF THE GODS – RISE OF THE ANCIENTS :
    Fast forward a few million years and the Dinobots are discovered by Earth scientists. What they find causes the humans to doubt the truthfulness of their Autobot guests and so a secret war between the human government and the Autobots (along with some human friends) begins. During this process Megatron decides to make his move and so a third party enters the fight and the world as a whole is thrown into an Apocalyptic like period. The Decepticons, after realizing that being in disguise is the best way to avoid problems with humans decide to transform and take on demonic like looks and features so as to use the human races believe about religion and end times against them and to spread fear as they engage the Autobots in a final “winner take all” fight.

    Before the end of the war, Unicron gets involved and comes to the planet, laying waste to most of what is left of the Autobots. This gives the Deceptions the advantage they have wanted for so long. This is when the secret device found so long ago and hidden away inside the Dinobot comes into play. It is the long lost …..

  21. facebook it Bay

  22. Blue collar

    do you have anymore from your TF bible? hehe

    by the way thanks on reedman..funny name though.

  23. “do you have anymore from your TF bible?”

    Speaking of that, I would like to see the Covenant of Primus introduced in this film. Since Bay is planning on using Unicron(most likely), then he could have it fortell the coming of Unicron. But, I would like to see it in the film that way we don’t have to read the comic in order to know what the heck is going on(unlike the first two).

  24. I think the goal of going with the name Reedman was menat to imply a reed like man or in other words a very thin individual like a reed from a plant. I coudl be completely wroing as that is just a guees. I do agree that there are other far better names they could have used although the micronots name/classification is rather cool.

  25. @Gigan300

    “do you have anymore from your TF bible”

    I forgot to add to my text that when the worker robots are transformed into Dinosaurs it is something new to the robot race as to that point there has been no concept of morhping into another form, at least not with the current robot society. This morphing concept is something new & and yet also something old, something very, VERY old and that plays into the ancient object that is found.

  26. Why does everyone want to come up with an elaborate way of working in the dinobots?

    Heres how you do it with no ridiculous backstory of transformers being here 65million years ago.

    ’5 transformers crash near the Natural History museum’

    Job done………..

  27. OK, I know I am going to get ALOT of grief about this, but I finally watch Revenge of the Fallen last night and I actually enjoyed it. Were the twins, the humping robot and Bumblebee crying ridiculous? Of course. However, for the most part I found it a fun movie to watch loaded with tons of great SFx. I am NOT a diehard Transformers geek, so I really don’t care if Bay messes with a 25 year old cartoon’s cannon. He delivered what I thought he would: a visual spectacle, with a few funny moments and some kick-azz robots. I give it a 3.5 out of 5, and I HOPE that there is a 3rd film.

    Flame away.

  28. dont worry Andy S…the fuel has run out for this one…

    by the way…dinobots dont land on earth…

    they were made by ratchet, ironhide, huffer, bumblebe, trailblazer (cant remember the rest)

    dinobots designed by spike and chip…so if bay wants..he can get sam and leo to introduce them to the autobots ..

    but i am aware that in this movie ..transformers are bred like hatchlings…weird concept..i didnt know organic reproduction could form metal…

  29. Wasn’t it the energon source that created the robots? Kind of like when the small appliances started coming to life in Sam’s kitchen from the shard of the cube?

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