Comments on: Creator Doesn’t Think Venom Can Carry A Movie http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/ TV and Movie News without the Sugar Coating Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:23:28 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: andries price http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-2/#comment-117309 andries price Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:40:07 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-117309 please don a venom movie it's awsome i like topher grace as venom he's cool awsome and two thumbs up i like topher grace so i will see him on the venom movie next year i think top[her grace will do a good job on the venom movie so i will see venom movie starring topher grace in theatres 2012 see ya. please don a venom movie it’s awsome i like topher grace as venom he’s cool awsome and two thumbs up i like topher grace so i will see him on the venom movie next year i think top[her grace will do a good job on the venom movie so i will see venom movie starring topher grace in theatres 2012 see ya.

]]> By: Anthony http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-2/#comment-102859 Anthony Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:01:12 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-102859 SF BAY AREA IS WAITING FOR THEIR VENOM MOVIE.WELL TRUE BELIEVERS TILL LATER KEEP YOUR MARVEL FAITH THAT THE MOVIES WILL BECOME BETTER AND NOT RUSHED THRU.START FROM THE BEGINING .x-MEN LIKE I SAID BE4 WAS A TRAVISTY.THE STORY LAYOUT WAS REDICULOUS ,.DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN TO THE REST.OR REDO THE X-MEN SAGA.THERE IS STILL TONS OF UNCOVERED TERRITORY FOR THE X-MEN ,VENOM,SPIDERMAN,X-FACTOR,FANTASTIC4,ETC..TAKE YOUR TIME DIRECTORS RESPECT THESE STORIES AND CHARACTERS FOR WHAT THEY ARE.DON'T X-MEN IT ,SPIDERMAN WAS OKAY,AGAIN RUSHED THRU THOUGH,I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO BORE THE ADIAUNCE BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO MISINFORM THEM EITHER. SF BAY AREA IS WAITING FOR THEIR VENOM MOVIE.WELL TRUE BELIEVERS TILL LATER KEEP YOUR MARVEL FAITH THAT THE MOVIES WILL BECOME BETTER AND NOT RUSHED THRU.START FROM THE BEGINING .x-MEN LIKE I SAID BE4 WAS A TRAVISTY.THE STORY LAYOUT WAS REDICULOUS ,.DON’T LET THAT HAPPEN TO THE REST.OR REDO THE X-MEN SAGA.THERE IS STILL TONS OF UNCOVERED TERRITORY FOR THE X-MEN ,VENOM,SPIDERMAN,X-FACTOR,FANTASTIC4,ETC..TAKE YOUR TIME DIRECTORS RESPECT THESE STORIES AND CHARACTERS FOR WHAT THEY ARE.DON’T X-MEN IT ,SPIDERMAN WAS OKAY,AGAIN RUSHED THRU THOUGH,I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON’T WANT TO BORE THE ADIAUNCE BUT YOU DON’T WANT TO MISINFORM THEM EITHER.

]]> By: Anthony http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-102855 Anthony Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:51:14 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-102855 I think with the right director mcfarlanes character will be shown in the light he deserves.Yea the maximum carnage thought is a great idea,but come on to whom ever directed the spider man movie with Venom in it was way off.Venom was and is the Lethal protecter [we] know trust me I have his very 1st solo comic book mint condition,and I have collected his comics ever since.Alot of the marvel movies have been rushing thru details,the only ones that were close were Iron man somewhat hulk,and blade except for the part vampire part,.you see these movies are to pg-13 half of the original fans of these comic characters are 20+years old now.Knock it off directors you sabotaged the x-men stories by rushing thru most of it ..Relax we all love these characters no need to think our attention spans are in nano-seconds you are insulting the adiaunce and the fans.Blade being rated R helped a whole lot ,because without puming up the danger and action in these films you are left with a lot of mushy touchy feely scenes and corny lines.Oh and HULK originated in the SF BAY AREA I have no idea why the new one with the fight club star wasn't that was wierd ,unless you continued it from that horrible ang lee version in which I don't think you did marvel,Stan Lee stand up for yourself don't let the characters you created get hacked away by some director that probably never ever read your comics in his life till he did your comics on film. I think with the right director mcfarlanes character will be shown in the light he deserves.Yea the maximum carnage thought is a great idea,but come on to whom ever directed the spider man movie with Venom in it was way off.Venom was and is the Lethal protecter [we] know trust me I have his very 1st solo comic book mint condition,and I have collected his comics ever since.Alot of the marvel movies have been rushing thru details,the only ones that were close were Iron man somewhat hulk,and blade except for the part vampire part,.you see these movies are to pg-13 half of the original fans of these comic characters are 20+years old now.Knock it off directors you sabotaged the x-men stories by rushing thru most of it ..Relax we all love these characters no need to think our attention spans are in nano-seconds you are insulting the adiaunce and the fans.Blade being rated R helped a whole lot ,because without puming up the danger and action in these films you are left with a lot of mushy touchy feely scenes and corny lines.Oh and HULK originated in the SF BAY AREA I have no idea why the new one with the fight club star wasn’t that was wierd ,unless you continued it from that horrible ang lee version in which I don’t think you did marvel,Stan Lee stand up for yourself don’t let the characters you created get hacked away by some director that probably never ever read your comics in his life till he did your comics on film.

]]> By: schin http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-67084 schin Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22:07 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-67084 i like what the first guy said perfectly SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST with VENOM CARNAGE AND MORBIOUS BATTELING i like what the first guy said perfectly SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST with VENOM CARNAGE AND MORBIOUS BATTELING

]]> By: Darren seeley http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-55635 Darren seeley Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:33:52 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-55635 I feel that a Sandman spinoff <em> -w/ Silver Sable & WildPack</em> would be an easier task myself. I mean, can there be a Venom film without Spider-Man? Also, everyone is hung up on Carnage. With all the (spec) talk about softening up Venom...Carnage's body count will go down too, I'm sure. I actually see a little more of 'Lethal Protector' in here- set in San Francisco, facing off against one or any of the other symbiont spinoffs: Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher, and Agony. <em> Forget Carnage</em> I feel that a Sandman spinoff -w/ Silver Sable & WildPack would be an easier task myself. I mean, can there be a Venom film without Spider-Man?

Also, everyone is hung up on Carnage. With all the (spec) talk about softening up Venom…Carnage’s body count will go down too, I’m sure. I actually see a little more of ‘Lethal Protector’ in here- set in San Francisco, facing off against one or any of the other symbiont spinoffs: Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher, and Agony.

Forget Carnage

]]> By: Hound http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-42355 Hound Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:10 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-42355 The problem isn't that Venom the concept can't carry a movie... The problem is that Venom (movie character) has been such a piss poor representation of Venom that there isn't a legitimate shot for him anymore until the public forgets about the atrocities done o the character in Spider-Man 3. Now we play the waiting game... And incidentally, Flamestrike is on exactly the right path. But it'll take time before people forget. The problem isn’t that Venom the concept can’t carry a movie… The problem is that Venom (movie character) has been such a piss poor representation of Venom that there isn’t a legitimate shot for him anymore until the public forgets about the atrocities done o the character in Spider-Man 3.

Now we play the waiting game…

And incidentally, Flamestrike is on exactly the right path. But it’ll take time before people forget.

]]> By: High Kalibur http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-31238 High Kalibur Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:03:00 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-31238 ...say word... …say word…

]]> By: Yama454 http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-31067 Yama454 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:48:52 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-31067 Actually living in modoc I've met plenty of PURE EVIL! its pretty much child molester central, all the sick and depraved people seem to migrate here! Anyone who has kids here should be arrested for child endangerment! Anyway I agree that Maximum Carnage would be the best and by far the most popular route! but I'm not sure they will, just because everybody seems to hate spider-man 3, and oddly enough it isn't for the dancing or Mary Jane but Venom (which could have been a lot better, but it could also have been a lot worse!) and the multiple villains. They will probably want a quick and easy way to make Venom fight for the good guys, and Maximum Carnage would definitely not be quick, and would have to add to many villains and superheroes into the mix if they did it right(which they probably wouldn't)! which is why I think they will probably do the "License to Kill" thing! And if they do S.H.I.E.L.D. as Venom's captors hopefully they don't do Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, if they even use Nick Fury? its not the ultimates (which suck)! P.S. Todd MacFarlane does deserve some credit! But I don't agree his name of all the names should be the main name listed as the creator, in my opinion he did not do enough to deserve it! especially since he is so full of himself he wasn't satisfied with the credit he was due, he wanted to steal all the credit! just for that his name shouldn't even be on the list! he should have been grateful to be a part of his creation and just accepted his due credit! I should have said anti-hero, he's still cool as both! although hero and anti-hero however big a difference are both still heroes to me, probably anti-hero more though, I personally prefer the permanent solution over the catch and release! Actually living in modoc I’ve met plenty of PURE EVIL! its pretty much child molester central, all the sick and depraved people seem to migrate here! Anyone who has kids here should be arrested for child endangerment!
Anyway I agree that Maximum Carnage would be the best and by far the most popular route! but I’m not sure they will, just because everybody seems to hate spider-man 3, and oddly enough it isn’t for the dancing or Mary Jane but Venom (which could have been a lot better, but it could also have been a lot worse!) and the multiple villains. They will probably want a quick and easy way to make Venom fight for the good guys, and Maximum Carnage would definitely not be quick, and would have to add to many villains and superheroes into the mix if they did it right(which they probably wouldn’t)! which is why I think they will probably do the “License to Kill” thing! And if they do S.H.I.E.L.D. as Venom’s captors hopefully they don’t do Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, if they even use Nick Fury? its not the ultimates (which suck)!
P.S. Todd MacFarlane does deserve some credit! But I don’t agree his name of all the names should be the main name listed as the creator, in my opinion he did not do enough to deserve it! especially since he is so full of himself he wasn’t satisfied with the credit he was due, he wanted to steal all the credit! just for that his name shouldn’t even be on the list! he should have been grateful to be a part of his creation and just accepted his due credit!
I should have said anti-hero, he’s still cool as both! although hero and anti-hero however big a difference are both still heroes to me, probably anti-hero more though, I personally prefer the permanent solution over the catch and release!

]]> By: High Kalibur http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30922 High Kalibur Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:17:12 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30922 I defintely think the best route to go is Venom vs. Carnage and even better then that, I like the Maximum Carnage dynamic of Spidey and Venom having to put aside their differences to team up and defeat Carnage. If they based it off Maximum, they could even bring in the Black Cat as a supporting character and that would be awesome too. Fans definitely want it... @ Yama454 P.S. Venom was created by a myriad of Artists and Writers, the character was the result of ideas being thrown around and combined together -- in fact, Venom was almost a female. The subject is actually considered a controversy by the comic book community. In general it is agreed that Micheline was the final creating writer, though the ideas were not completely original, such as the suit being a sentient being and it being an alien. It is also generally agreed by even Micheline himself, that McFarlene deserves the creator credit because of the 'monsterous' appearence he gave Venom, without it, it is very possible that the character would not have been as popular. It is important to note that McFarlene's work on Venom was also based of others' previous work. But Todd made him scary! The Teeth! : ) All in all, 'Venom' is the result of plenty of Artist collaboration. I think it might be considered taxing to list twelve artists/writers whenever giving credit to Venom's creation. Venom is a great character definitely one of the best Villians ever, especially for Spidey. I don't agree that he can ever be a superhero he has been an anti-hero. And I don't know if you need to be a comic fan to discern the difference between superhero, anti-hero and villian but they are all different types of characters. Somebody said something about "Villains having humanity ruins them" -- wait was that differnt thread -- anyway, I disagree. Magneto is my favorite villian, I would say the Joker but I'd be talking film not comics -- in the comics Magneto is not evil, he is driven and has an actual hatred for humans based on experiences. I could read Magneto and say "Wow, he has a point... logically speaking." Pure evil is not logical and making someone pure evil is extrememly easy from a writers stand point -- you don't have to put any effort into their motives -- i.e. Carnage. AUDIENCE "Why did he do that?" STORY "Well, he's evil." AUDIENCE "O.K." How many people have you met that are PURE EVIL? Humanity adds depth to a character: hero or villian and Venom will definitely need that depth if he is to be a protagonist in his own feature film. Man, Sony better get to work and tackle this film carefully, it can very easily be horrible. Just like everyone here has their own views of Venom -- I can only imagine what kinds of meetings the writers, executives, producers and potential director may be having about the film. I hope there are some fans in there somewhere. I defintely think the best route to go is Venom vs. Carnage and even better then that, I like the Maximum Carnage dynamic of Spidey and Venom having to put aside their differences to team up and defeat Carnage.

If they based it off Maximum, they could even bring in the Black Cat as a supporting character and that would be awesome too. Fans definitely want it…

@ Yama454

P.S.

Venom was created by a myriad of Artists and Writers, the character was the result of ideas being thrown around and combined together — in fact, Venom was almost a female.

The subject is actually considered a controversy by the comic book community.

In general it is agreed that Micheline was the final creating writer, though the ideas were not completely original, such as the suit being a sentient being and it being an alien.

It is also generally agreed by even Micheline himself, that McFarlene deserves the creator credit because of the ‘monsterous’ appearence he gave Venom, without it, it is very possible that the character would not have been as popular. It is important to note that McFarlene’s work on Venom was also based of others’ previous work.

But Todd made him scary! The Teeth! : )

All in all, ‘Venom’ is the result of plenty of Artist collaboration. I think it might be considered taxing to list twelve artists/writers whenever giving credit to Venom’s creation.

Venom is a great character definitely one of the best Villians ever, especially for Spidey. I don’t agree that he can ever be a superhero he has been an anti-hero.

And I don’t know if you need to be a comic fan to discern the difference between superhero, anti-hero and villian but they are all different types of characters.

Somebody said something about “Villains having humanity ruins them” — wait was that differnt thread — anyway, I disagree.

Magneto is my favorite villian, I would say the Joker but I’d be talking film not comics — in the comics Magneto is not evil, he is driven and has an actual hatred for humans based on experiences. I could read Magneto and say “Wow, he has a point… logically speaking.”

Pure evil is not logical and making someone pure evil is extrememly easy from a writers stand point — you don’t have to put any effort into their motives — i.e. Carnage.

AUDIENCE
“Why did he do that?”

STORY
“Well, he’s evil.”

AUDIENCE
“O.K.”

How many people have you met that are PURE EVIL?

Humanity adds depth to a character: hero or villian and Venom will definitely need that depth if he is to be a protagonist in his own feature film.

Man, Sony better get to work and tackle this film carefully, it can very easily be horrible.

Just like everyone here has their own views of Venom — I can only imagine what kinds of meetings the writers, executives, producers and potential director may be having about the film. I hope there are some fans in there somewhere.

]]> By: Yama454 http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30859 Yama454 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:55:09 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30859 I think they will probably do the movie like the Venom comic mini-series did and have him captured by the government, and have a bomb placed in his neck to control him. They (probably S.H.I.E.L.D.) will capture Venom (possibly right after the battle in spider-man 3, crawling off wounded in the sewer or something like that), and try to study him, and the symbiote will spawn somehow unnoticed, and find Cletus Kasady(hopefully Matthew Lillard), probably in a cell near Venom for whatever reason they pull out of their butts. Kasady will become Carnage, and after getting their butts kicked, and most if not all the squad sent after Carnage are slaughtered, the military will place the bomb in Venom's neck and send him after Carnage. P.S. however cool venoms teeth are, Venom is a cool all-around character, he makes just as good a hero as a villain, nobody can deny that unless they haven't read a Venom comic in which case they don't know what they are talking about! and adding the teeth to the character was a great idea! but it doesn't give Todd MacFarlane the right to try to take the credit from the group of people who created him! I think they will probably do the movie like the Venom comic mini-series did and have him captured by the government, and have a bomb placed in his neck to control him.
They (probably S.H.I.E.L.D.) will capture Venom (possibly right after the battle in spider-man 3, crawling off wounded in the sewer or something like that), and try to study him, and the symbiote will spawn somehow unnoticed, and find Cletus Kasady(hopefully Matthew Lillard), probably in a cell near Venom for whatever reason they pull out of their butts. Kasady will become Carnage, and after getting their butts kicked, and most if not all the squad sent after Carnage are slaughtered, the military will place the bomb in Venom’s neck and send him after Carnage.
P.S. however cool venoms teeth are, Venom is a cool all-around character, he makes just as good a hero as a villain, nobody can deny that unless they haven’t read a Venom comic in which case they don’t know what they are talking about! and adding the teeth to the character was a great idea! but it doesn’t give Todd MacFarlane the right to try to take the credit from the group of people who created him!

]]> By: 790 http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30772 790 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:57:38 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30772 Good points, High Kalibur,,,, Good points, High Kalibur,,,,

]]> By: High Kalibur http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30770 High Kalibur Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:37:03 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30770 This would have to be an anti-hero flick for sure. Venom is a supervillian, a story device must force him to battle another evil, while Venom fancies himself a 'lethal protector' he, or 'they' are misunderstood by Spider-Man and by the public and he is definitely driven insane between his hatred for Spidey and the power of the symbiote. Really, there is a Spawn factor to him -- *Opens box of comics* -- Like Spawn, he will take it upon himself to be judge, jury and executioner. That is what seperates him from the superheros like Spidey and Batman. And like Spawn he eventually takes refuge with other 'societal outcasts' and protects them. PROS 'Venom' is a chance to save the slandered character. CONS He will probably be slandered more. Like the War Machine spin-off, i think the sole driving force behind this idea is profit not the desire to make an amazing film and that is bad for everyone except the studio execs. MY IDEA: Tie in Spidey 4 & 5 with Venom, give us the Lizard and adapt the Maximum Carnage storyline to film. Too bad Sony has exclusive right to Spidey, there are plenty of stories that would allow tie-ins with the X-Men or Avengers. After 2011, if Marvel fares well and the Avengers is a critically acclaimed mammoth blockbuster, I would love to see Secret Wars or Civil War put on the Silver Screen... Imagine it... done right... P.S. Todd only created his teeth? That's the best part! This would have to be an anti-hero flick for sure. Venom is a supervillian, a story device must force him to battle another evil, while Venom fancies himself a ‘lethal protector’ he, or ‘they’ are misunderstood by Spider-Man and by the public and he is definitely driven insane between his hatred for Spidey and the power of the symbiote.

Really, there is a Spawn factor to him — *Opens box of comics* — Like Spawn, he will take it upon himself to be judge, jury and executioner. That is what seperates him from the superheros like Spidey and Batman. And like Spawn he eventually takes refuge with other ’societal outcasts’ and protects them.

PROS
‘Venom’ is a chance to save the slandered character.

CONS
He will probably be slandered more.

Like the War Machine spin-off, i think the sole driving force behind this idea is profit not the desire to make an amazing film and that is bad for everyone except the studio execs.

MY IDEA:
Tie in Spidey 4 & 5 with Venom, give us the Lizard and adapt the Maximum Carnage storyline to film.

Too bad Sony has exclusive right to Spidey, there are plenty of stories that would allow tie-ins with the X-Men or Avengers.

After 2011, if Marvel fares well and the Avengers is a critically acclaimed mammoth blockbuster, I would love to see Secret Wars or Civil War put on the Silver Screen…

Imagine it… done right…

P.S. Todd only created his teeth? That’s the best part!

]]> By: michael http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30316 michael Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:46:33 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30316 Magneto has always had good in him, he just hates humans. He believes in Mutant Superiority, hes not evil, was Malcom X evil, magnetos has just become a softy for human kind. and why don't they make spider-man the villain, do what they did with the Secret Window,make the sherrif the one everyone hates at the end, Eddie thinks he is doing good and venom is just giving him a little boost. Magneto has always had good in him, he just hates humans. He believes in Mutant Superiority, hes not evil, was Malcom X evil, magnetos has just become a softy for human kind. and why don’t they make spider-man the villain, do what they did with the Secret Window,make the sherrif the one everyone hates at the end, Eddie thinks he is doing good and venom is just giving him a little boost.

]]> By: Neofcon http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30307 Neofcon Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:22:54 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30307 As long as Carnage is the villain it will work. I agree with Todd's statement. One of the reasons I now hate Magneto is because he now has some "Good" in him. As long as Carnage is the villain it will work.

I agree with Todd’s statement. One of the reasons I now hate Magneto is because he now has some “Good” in him.

]]> By: Mike Wilkerson - 2GuysTalking http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30263 Mike Wilkerson - 2GuysTalking Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:19:01 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30263 Oh, the sweet irony of Sony creating a movie (are you sure that it's going to be one, it's got to be at LEAST 2 if it's Sony and a comic book movie) from a character they didn't even bother naming in Spider-Man 3. I am both a huge Spider-Man, and an old-school McFarlane fan, but folks - the requirement of having an A-class actor is completely against the original concept of Venom. The reason it failed terribly in S3 is because they had to bleed off Venom's head to showcase Topher Grace's face. The same phenomenon happens with Toby Maguire as well when at the end of each and every Spider-Man movie, his mask is almost completely disintergrated. I'm totally interested, I'm wide-open in reagard to "welcoming a Venom" movie, but without that classic initiator series of McFarlane goodness - meh. Oh, the sweet irony of Sony creating a movie (are you sure that it’s going to be one, it’s got to be at LEAST 2 if it’s Sony and a comic book movie) from a character they didn’t even bother naming in Spider-Man 3.

I am both a huge Spider-Man, and an old-school McFarlane fan, but folks – the requirement of having an A-class actor is completely against the original concept of Venom. The reason it failed terribly in S3 is because they had to bleed off Venom’s head to showcase Topher Grace’s face. The same phenomenon happens with Toby Maguire as well when at the end of each and every Spider-Man movie, his mask is almost completely disintergrated.

I’m totally interested, I’m wide-open in reagard to “welcoming a Venom” movie, but without that classic initiator series of McFarlane goodness – meh.

]]> By: michael http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30125 michael Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:45:31 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30125 The only problem is always going to be the fact that the studio is going to make it a spider-man movie not a venom movie. The only problem is always going to be the fact that the studio is going to make it a spider-man movie not a venom movie.

]]> By: Heath McKnight http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30105 Heath McKnight Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:03:54 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30105 I believe the whole concept and look of Venom was all Michelinie. Eric Larsen added the tongue (McFarlane hated the tongue). heath I believe the whole concept and look of Venom was all Michelinie. Eric Larsen added the tongue (McFarlane hated the tongue).

heath

]]> By: 790 http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-30025 790 Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:30:52 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-30025 This sounds like a bad idea... Hollywood. ;-) I agree with MacFarlane on this one,,,, GreenKnight333, they can only do your version if they include Venom and Carnage in Spider Man 5. If not it dosnt fit,,, 8-) This sounds like a bad idea… Hollywood. ;-)
I agree with MacFarlane on this one,,,,

GreenKnight333, they can only do your version if they include Venom and Carnage in Spider Man 5. If not it dosnt fit,,, 8-)

]]> By: greenknight333 http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-29986 greenknight333 Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:43:33 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-29986 A Flamestrike Venom kills innocents if they keep him from accomplishing his goals..He feels bad about it but he still does it,,,So he is a sociopath...bad bad Venom... A Flamestrike

Venom kills innocents if they keep him from accomplishing his goals..He feels bad about it but he still does it,,,So he is a sociopath…bad bad Venom…

]]> By: FlameStrike http://screenrant.com/todd-macfarlane-venom-cant-carry-movie-vic-3609/comment-page-1/#comment-29973 FlameStrike Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:59:54 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=3609#comment-29973 Why does everyone feel Venom either has to be the bad guy or that he has to be redeemed somehow to be the good guy? There is another way to go: Venom always thought of himself as the good guy. He tries to protect the victims, as he perceives himself to be, and kills those he believes are the victimizers. In his mind Spider-Man was the bad guy because he unjustly attacked Brock and the symbiote. Given what he has been shown to do in order to get a chance at Spider-Man, there's no reason he can't be portrayed as the cure that's as bad as, or worse than, the disease. He'll do what he feels he has to do to stop the bad guys, and if that means he kills innocents, then so be it. As far as he's concerned, those deaths are not his responsibility, but were caused by the people he's after. If he's handled that way, there's no reason Venom can't work, and possibly carry his own movie, regardless of who the enemy is. Why does everyone feel Venom either has to be the bad guy or that he has to be redeemed somehow to be the good guy?

There is another way to go: Venom always thought of himself as the good guy. He tries to protect the victims, as he perceives himself to be, and kills those he believes are the victimizers. In his mind Spider-Man was the bad guy because he unjustly attacked Brock and the symbiote.

Given what he has been shown to do in order to get a chance at Spider-Man, there’s no reason he can’t be portrayed as the cure that’s as bad as, or worse than, the disease. He’ll do what he feels he has to do to stop the bad guys, and if that means he kills innocents, then so be it. As far as he’s concerned, those deaths are not his responsibility, but were caused by the people he’s after.

If he’s handled that way, there’s no reason Venom can’t work, and possibly carry his own movie, regardless of who the enemy is.

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