Title Revealed For Pirates of the Caribbean 4

Pirates of the Caribbean 4 - On Stranger Tides logo

We recently found out the supposed plot for the fourth installment in the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise, which, according to Hollywood Elsewhere, would feature Captain Jack Sparrow (Johnny Depp) and Co. searching for the infamous Fountain of Youth. It’s not been officially announced but it seems plausible, and at this point we have no reason to think that it’s false.

So with that “semi-confirmed” plot (whatever that means) in mind, you could be forgiven for assuming Pirates 4 would be titled something akin to, “Pirates of the Caribbean: The Search For the Fountain of Youth” or simply “Pirates of the Caribbean: The Fountain of Youth.” But no, at the D23 Disney Fan Expo, a logo/banner for the fourth Pirates movie was unveiled and it revealed the name and the release date: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides has a (general) release date of Summer 2011.

On Stranger Tides, huh? I wonder just what that could mean. Since no plot details were revealed at the Disney Expo, that just leaves us all to speculate as to what the subtitle could be referring to. Could it mean Captain Jack Sparrow and Co. traveling to unknown, uncharted seas to find the Fountain of Youth? Do we take “Stranger” as in the characters don’t know what the “Tides” are? Or could it be something that will only make sense once you see the movie, as was the case with this summer’s Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince?

Erik Davis from Cinematical came across a pirate book by the same name as the newly assigned Pirates 4 subtitle. As Erik asks on Twitter – “Did Disney swipe the title from this book for Pirates 4?” or, “are they adapting it?” The Tim Powers written book is available on Amazon, here is the synopsis from it:

“Puppeteer John Chandagnac, bound for Jamaica to recover stolen money from his uncle, becomes Jack Shandy after pirates attack his ship and force him to join their crew. Shandy’s struggle to accept his new life grounds the story for readers, even as Blackbeard and vodun magicians whisk everyone away to dreamlike lands where the Fountain of Youth itself awaits. The chaotic sea battles sing, though at times key events happen so quickly that they get lost in the shuffle as Jack tries to comprehend where he’s going and what’s at stake.”

"On Stranger Tides" by Tim Powers

Hold on a minute: the Fountain of Youth (with a main character called Jack)? Isn’t that what Pirates of the Caribbean 4 is supposed to be about? I find it hard to believe that Disney isn’t aware of the existence of Powers’ book, and aren’t using as at least an inspiration, if not a full on basis for adaptation, like Cinematical says. That’s an interesting idea to ponder – four movies into a franchise looking elsewhere for material to base your story off of. If true, it could work tremendously in the film/franchise’s favor or it could seriously backfire. I’ll leave it to you to give your thoughts on which way it would go.

What do you think of the title of the fourth Pirates movie? Do you think the On Stranger Tides book is an inspiration/source for adaptation for Disney?

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides has Chicago director, Rob Marshall, rumored to be directing, with Johnny Depp being the only cast member we know of so far who is definitely returning (Keira Knightley has previously said no to returning). Production is supposed to start next Spring and is (as mentioned) set to be released in the summer of 2011.

Sources: Cinematical and /Film

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Sean

Denise, i highly doubt they will even bother to do a pirates 5 and 6 if johnny depp is not involved in them!. Although, i recently read somewhere that johnny depp never did say that he didn't want to do a pirates 5 and 6, and that was all a big mis-understanding from unreliable sources!. People make a big deal about things and then that makes it all the more confusing for the next group of people who hear about it, because the way the news goes to next person is not all entirely correct!, or said correctly to the next person who hears about it!. And thats how that kind of ordeal ends up on the internet, which i totally hate when that happens!.

Denise Miller

thanks for the updated info. if Johnny Depp does not want to seriously do 5 and 6 they should not do them or have to have his character leave somehow. no one else could do his part as Jack Sparrow.that would just be insane!!!!!!!!

Sean

I just found out on imdb.com, that pirates of the caribbean: on stranger tides is coming out on july 8th, 2011 friday!. Check it out!, if anyone here is interested in seeing what i'm talking about!!!.

Sean

Yes, it definately is the most successful franchise in the world!!!. Your absolutely right!!!.

larayb

i love the piaret opf the caribbian its the most succesful flim in the world

Sean

M.G.J, anyone who foes not like captain jack sparrow, and johnny depp, obviously has not seen him movies at all !. They wouldn;t know that liked him or not, if they didn;t see him movies!.

M.G.J

hehe.. I freaked a little.. xD
I just really like Captain Jack (and Johnny) :P

Sean

M.G.J, don't worry!, johnny depp wont disappoint his fans by leaving the pirates franchise, because that would be the dumbist thing for anyone to do at this point!. Those movies are to good to discontinue now!. They wont stop making them because people go to see them regardless at the movie theaters when they are released to movie theaters anyways!.

M.G.J

Ops...

M.G.J

I am seriously so pissed and sad right now!!...
I don't know what's going on!! What is going on??!!
People are already nameing actors they think will do good!
I'm really sad right now...

Sean

M.G.J,

Since Johnny Depp will not be in Pirates 5 and 6. Pirates 5 and 6 will actually not happen at all!.

M.G.J

I actually JUST read on IMDB that Disney is looking for a replacement for Johnny for Pirates 5 and 6 already!! What the f***??!!! They can't replace him!! Jack Sparrow is Johnny Depp! This has become a classic character!!! If they do that I will die....... F*** them!

M.G.J

I read today that Johnny will probably not be in Pirates 5 and 6...

Pirates of the Caribbean: On S

Sean, Disney and Jerry Bruckheimer are NOT going to just let Johnny Depp stop with the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. They are going to do what ever it takes to get him to stay with the pirates of the caribbean no matter what, because of all the fans, and because the pirates of the caribbean movies are just way to good to be stopped now, i don't think pirates of the caribbean 2 and 3 were bad at all, they just had story and plots in them that just had too much in them to totally understand them or to keep up with them, while watching pirates 2 and 3.

Sean

Lets all hope the script is good, and that johnny depp likes it enough to want to be in pirates of the caribbean: on stranger tides, dispite dick cooks leaving the company!. I think that ted elliott and terry rossio's script writing skills will not disappoint him to the point to where he would decide to not be in the fourth movie, because they obviously did a good enough job keeping him in the firth three movies, because if the story isn't any good for any of the pirates of the caribbean movies, then johnny depp woud probably disaprove them and the pirates of the caribbean movies wouldn't even excist!. But luckily they do, and hopefully pirates of the caribbean: on stranger tides will happen and as well as pirates of the caribbean 5 and pirates of the caribbean 6.

Sean

Johnny Depp will not quite the pirates of the caribbean movies, because those set of movies are of the biggest movies he's ever been in!, and hes already been in three of them, so there is basically no reason for to quite being in them now, even though dick cook is no longer in the disney company, i'm sure that someone else will take his place and will convince johnny depp to continue the frinchise, and jerry bruckheimer will too!. Wih out depp, there will be no more pirates of the caribbean movies!, but lest all hope that does not turn out to be the case!.

Sean

sorry, i ment at the end there of my previous comment that he does NOT want to disappoint his fans!.

Sean

Johnny Depp will be in pirates of the caribbean: on stranger tides, because of the $56 million dollar deal that they have made already, and because his commitment with jerry bruckheimer and disney and he does not want to disappoint his trillions of fans, so he will be back in the fourth pirates of the caribbean movie titled as pirates of the caribbean: on stranger tides, that will start filming in april 2010, for a may 2011 theatrical release date!. Johnny Depp, is only going to though a temperary withdrawl phase right now, which is because dick cook leaving the company!, he'll get over it eventually, and shortly, and will move on from that , and "hopeflly" will stick with the pirates movies, because they all have been a "BIG" success!, and i'm totally sure he is definately aware of that for sure!. And especially does want to disappoint his fans!, as like i've mentioned above in this comment of mine!.

Sean

Yes, it is based on a book, so that should be able to help the writers write the script, and then that way, the script will make sense, and will be a great story, and maybe with it hopefully turning out that way, johnny depp will like it enough to be in the movie after all!. I know that johnny depp will be in the fourth movie, because that guy that left disney didn't die, he only left, and could still come back!, so i don't think thats a good enough reason for johnny depp to leave the franchise, but i would understand if he left because that guy died but, he didn't so he really has no reason to quite the franchise now!. I sure someone else just as good at his or her job, will be hired for dick cooks spot in disney, the people that hire him or her will make sure that johnny depp is o.k. with him or her and he'll still star in pirates of the caribbean 4 as captain jack sparrow!, with out any problems at hand!.

M.G.J

But remember that now it's based on a book......

Sean

M.G.J,
I know for a fact, that once johnny depp gets the chance to even read the pirates of the caribbean: on stranger tides script, he'll be happy with it!, because he was happy enough with the scripts "obviously" to be in the first three movies, which he was!. So I just don't see how after him being in the first three movies, that he would be unhappy with the script of the fourth movie!, i just don't think that'll happen!, that he'll be unhappy with the fourth movies script, because the writers of the stories for each of the movies, "ted elliott and terry rossio have not failed yet at making johnny depp happy with the story on the script to be in the thoses movies!. Theres just now way that this time, he wont like the script, because this time i know he's able to trust the writers at writing a wonderful script with an amazing story on it!.

M.G.J

I know it depends on the script now...
But Johnny took it really hard because Dick was the only one who trusted him when nobody else did, when it came to how to portray as Captain Jack. Johnny didn't see it comming, there was no reason to see this comming...

But let's hope the script will be good enough.. :)

Sean

sorry, i ment to say "dick cook", at the begining of my previous reply, not disk cook, sorry about that!. I miss-spelled there accidently!.

Sean

Johnny Depp already said before disk ccoks leaving the company, that depending on how good the script is for pirate sof the caribbean: on stranger tides, he will return as captian jack sparrow. Disck cooks leaving the disney campany is not going to destroy pirates of the caribbean 4, or prevnt it from happening with depp in it!. Johnny Depp has already made a done deal to be in pirates of the caribbean: on stranger tides for, i think it is $56 million dollars or more, maybe more then that, i'm not sure!. But yeah!, you see what ia sayin'?!, he not leaving pirates movies, just because of a higher authority leaving the disney comapny, just because of dick cooks leaving, what dicks reason is for leaving the disney company!.

Sean

sorry, i ment wont let him leave, because the pirates of the caribbean movies are too successful to stop making!, just because a higher authority left the walt disney pictures company!.

Sean

M.G.J,

Johnny Depp is not going to drop out of pirates of the caribbean 4, because then he'll end up loosing his capabilities to be in any disney movie, so i highly doubt that johnny depp wont be in pirates of the caribbean 4 !. He will be in pirates of the caribbean 4, and will eventually get over dick cooks leaving the company, because i know for a fact that jerry bruckheimer and walt disney pictures will let that him leave because, the pirates of the caribbean movie are too successful to just drop out of just because a higher authority left the wald disney pictures campany!.

M.G.J

Well, on IMDB now it says that Johnny Depp will maybe drop the project because Walt Disney Studios chairman Dick Cook sudden dismissal/resignation...

Sean

I just discovered on disney.go.com, on the walt disney pictures section of that website, that they have just added a section pirates of the caribbean: on stranger tides, and the tentitive release date they gave it for right now is "summer 2011". If anyones interested here whos leaving comments here like me, check it out!. I found it just now, a few minutes ago, before left this comment here!.