‘The Walking Dead’ Season 2 Midseason Premiere Review

Published 2 years ago by , Updated February 13th, 2012 at 9:08 am,

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Given the difficult circumstances The Walking Dead survivors found themselves in at the end of the midseason finale, the return episode -titled ‘Nebraska’ – really had no choice but to pick up immediately following Rick’s decision to shoot Sophia. That being the case, the majority of the episode works as a direct extension of ‘Pretty Much Dead Already’ – which, as expected, works out to be an exercise in guilt, grief and for some, the realization that believing in hope is tantamount to standing idly by.

Although there are plenty of lingering plot points and character threads the episode could have chosen to cover, ‘Nebraska’ steers clear of hurrying along the storyline for the sake of getting things moving, but the episode feels dutiful and filled with a purpose, nonetheless.

Now that the search for Sophia (Madison Lintz) is over, so too is the sense that there is something to wait for. So now, Rick (Andrew Lincoln), Shane (Jon Bernthal) and the rest of The Walking Dead’s core survivors can busy themselves with the task at hand. Largely, that means cleaning up the walkers which had been stumbling around Hershel’s barn. But perhaps more importantly, it means beginning a period of mourning for not only Carol (Melissa Suzanne McBride), but also Hershel and his daughters, who had been holding out belief their loved ones weren’t actually dead.

‘Nebraska’ balances the need to grieve with the call to action nicely – even though much of the action consists of digging graves and burning bodies. And while those tasks don’t necessarily get one’s heart pumping, they do fall into that bizarrely fascinating topic of unpleasant responsibilities the end of the world brings about. As Andrea (Laurie Holden), T-Dog (IronE Singleton) and Shane busy themselves, there is the feeling of forward progression that was lacking in the first half of the season.

But really, given the undercurrent of distrust and hostility between Rick and Shane, and Dale’s (Jeffrey DeMunn) increasing belief that Shane is a danger to everyone, the characters are likely grateful for the distraction. Moreover, since no time has passed between the events of the midseason finale and now, it’s a decent enough excuse to keep all the characters from standing around wondering: What do we do now?

There are a few characters given the opportunity to ponder what the next move will be, though, namely (and perhaps obviously) Glenn (Steven Yeun) and Maggie (Lauren Cohan), who have something to lose with the very real prospect of Glenn’s group leaving the farm. Maggie’s straightforwardness concerning the issue of Glenn remaining with her, as well as her admitting she has feelings for him works well against Glenn’s less assertive personality. Although the young couple’s moment is interrupted by Beth (Emily Kinney) falling ill, it does lead to a rather nice moment between Glenn and Rick that gives the group’s defacto leader yet another hat to wear – one suggesting Rick take the role of father figure for more than just Carl.

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Showing how easily he slips into the role, Rick deals with Glenn’s confession concerning knowledge of Lori’s pregnancy and her attempt to terminate it by simply saying, “You did what you thought was right. It just so happens it wasn’t.”

With that, the episode slowly turns its attention to Rick, who has to deal with the burden of his inability to save Sophia and the a growing concern that his inefficacy as a leader has resulted in the unpleasant situation at hand. Perhaps Rick’s feelings are rooted in his conflict with Shane, or the loss of Sophia, but most likely, Rick’s doubt may come from the fact that whatever course of action he takes (alone or otherwise) is immediately followed up with someone telling him he’s made the wrong decision.

Case in point: after learning that Hershel has left the farm to get plowed at the local bar, Rick’s first instinct is to retrieve him. Unfortunately, Lori (Sarah Wayne Callies) sees this as another opportunity for Rick to die, and immediately calls his decision making skills into question – citing Carl’s acceptance of Rick’s judgment to shoot Sophia as evidence. Apparently, a young boy being realistic is cause for more concern than recovering the only person with medical experience, but that seems to be Lori’s role, as of late; hopefully it will change now that she’s found herself in a potentially deadly situation.

It seems like yet another unnecessary spousal spat, but it actually works to give more weight to Rick’s split-second decision at the end of the episode; mainly providing evidence that, more often than not, Rick’s instincts are right on the money.

Speaking of which, after Hershel finally turns his back on a nasty case of cirrhosis, he, Rick and Glenn are introduced to a couple of strangers. These men, Dave (Michael Raymond-James, Terriers, True Blood) and his associate Tony, bring with them the requisite sense of foreboding and menace often associated with strangers in such post-apocalyptic settings. Naturally, as Dave’s seemingly casual talk shifts to requests that he and his publicly urinating friend join the trio at wherever it is they call home, the menace suddenly comes from both sides of the discussion, and begins to feel rather pressing.

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Although they make no attempt at overt aggression, Rick sniffs them out immediately; he knows there is something off about these two. The scene plays out as one of the most tense to ever be shown by The Walking Dead, as the threat comes from a source other than the titular zombies, and because the writing in everyone’s dialogue – especially that of Rick and Dave – comes with an implication of pending violence. Once it does erupt, the violence is quick and brutal, and shows that Rick (and the show as a whole) is ready to spring into action.

This encounter becomes a portent of conflict to come, and may finally put The Walking Dead where it needs to be: in a world that is rife with danger, which doesn’t necessarily come from the threat of the undead.

Largely because of the ending, ‘Nebraska’ comes off as a positive sign for the remaining episodes of season 2. More importantly, the episode is certainly suggesting that the waiting game is over, and the time for action is now.

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  1. Episode definitely started out slow and I have to say Laurie is one of the worst written characters on this show, plus it just reinstates the stereotype that women are horrible drivers, who accelerates when they hit something and turns off the road at that high of a speed?
    Anyways, the end of this episode had a great feel to it, reminded me a bit of the first scene of “Inglorious Bastards” Looks like the action is finally gonna roll around.

  2. OH MY HELL. This episode was ok but I had really hoped they would be hitting the road FINALLY. In the end though it looks like the exact opposite will be happening. First stupid insane pregnant lady decided to irrationally look for her husband even though we know the town is fairly safe AND he is not alone. All she is doing is endangering herself which is proven true by hitting a walker and then turning the car over (am I the only one who actually HITS my brakes after I hit something???). So she will be, at the very least, hurt (a reason to stay), have to look for HER now (another reason to stay).

    Then we have two complete strangers conveniently appear that give Hershel and Rick something to bond over, putting up a united front against these two hoods. Rick then blows them away, showing Hershel he is a shrewd judge of character (and maybe an even more valuable asset). The last straw was having the strangers toss out the fact that the place the group was headed to is a dead end, giving them no place to go now! Man I was pulling my hair out watching this. PLEASE STOP INVENTING REASONS TO NOT LEAVE!

    So all I’m seeing is stay, stay, stay when we want them to leave, leave, leave. Appears as if we may very well be spending the ENTIRE season “on the farm”. ARG

    Not that I’m going stop watching or anything but 50 semi-boring mins followed by 10 mins of awesome (the bar scene) is very frustrating and really gnawing on me.

    • Totally agree. Lori is an idiot. We need to go get Hershel even though Rick already went after him. Wtf? Written just so she can crash and now we have to search for her. I hope she dies. And why is Rick questioning his decision to search for Sophia? Lost girl, that’s what you do. Even though I hated that the entire season was spent doing it. And why is this entire county nearly zombie free? The show isn’t about zombies, it’s about whining people.

      And people complaining about people complaining about the show not following the comic: yes we know there was a decision not to follow it. We’re saying it’s a bad decision because the comic moves and is actually about zombies and the conflict they create. This show is about flaccid human character conflict. The dialog is crap, the characters are annoying and the story moves at a snails pace with a near complete absence of zombie influence.

      • Your totally right!

  3. SPOILER ALERT::::

    I loved this episode. Especially when Rick killed those two guys in the bar… It showed how real the situation is and how even Rick has a dark side to him. His eyes at the end of that episode and Hershel walking up beside him. I can only imagine that Hershel has turned to the dark side, so to speak, and is done with the whole preserving life/walkers are people too thing.

    The episode in itself was somewhat slow, but what are you expecting after one helluva episode before this!

    One more thing! Why the HELL didn’t Dale tell Lori that he saw Shane aiming his gun at Rick?!?!?!?! Maybe he could have totally changed the outcome of what happened in the rest of the episode (ex. Lori crashing the car)… Speaking of Lori, what the hell was she thinking?!

    I can’t wait until the next episode. This show has me on the edge of my seat after each episode!

    Matt.

    • I really enjoyed this, the ending was great. I do think they will hit the road soon, i think the farm will be overun with walkers and theyll all have to go based on the previews. Hope it gets better and better.

  4. I stopped reading this review as soon as I read “Nebraska’ steers clear of hurrying along the storyline for the sake of getting things moving, but the episode feels dutiful and filled with a purpose, nonetheless.”

    Let me make this perfectly clear..This storyline NEEDS to be hurried along….desperately. I got right into the comic “The Walking Dead” after I saw the first two episodes of this show. Now being caught up in the comic I am beginning (very quickly) to resent how the show has managed to bring a non stop thrilling comic series to a slowing, grinding progression, filled with major plot deviations and uselesss drama. The walking dead is a hardcore story. It is bad enough there is no swearing (which is definitely used at any major event in the comic), other than that there is a very good level of drama present in the comic to let you know these people are still human. But it is quick and to the point as it should be.

    THEY NEED TO LEAVE THE FARM. The Farm is a short stop for the gang in the comic. This long drawn out pregnancy thing on the farm argueing about whether zombies are alive or dead is rediculous. There are 15 volumes of the comic and no shortage of material. There is so much good stuff that before the series I would have guessed the Farm would have taken up 4 episodes MAX! With a way better ending at that.

    WHY IS SHANE STILL ALIVE
    Talking about moving things along why is this guy still alive? And if he is why didn’t they kill him off at the beginning of this “Mid season premier”. I know this guy is a good actor but he has become a huge taint. Shane dies should have died at the end of the first season like the comic. Solidifies Rick’s leadership and we can move along……LOL Rick Grimes is the undisputed leader with so much more plot material. Forget the love triangle and start building the drama around where it is. Rick Grimes and his struggles to lead a group of survivors through the perils of the zombie apocalypse. All the while enduring almost every hardship you can think of (Most of family dead, No hand, killed in cold blood a number of times, been shot 2 times, ect). I know the guy who plays Shane is a good actor but …….well whatever.

    I could go on (killing Sophia and others) and on so I’ll just say that I loved the first two episodes of this series. Got me to get the comic became a huge fan of that. But now I am beginning to resent the show because it is everything the comic is not. So much so I am not sure if I will continue watching. So Kirkman if a die hard fan like me is thinking about not watching the show…… I think you might have a problem. This is my favourite comic (really is awesome) and somehow the show is ruining it………it really does sadden me.

    • Kirkman has publicly stated that this will not follow the comic exactly so if your hoping for that, you should just quit watching the show. They will leave farm by the end of the season.

      • I am gonna quit watching the show. That is the irony I am pointing out. As a show like this you should be able to keep fans of the comic. You see the show got me into the comic and then out of the show itself…..you see the pardoxial relationship I am illustrating? how it could prove detrimental to the show?

    • I couldn’t agree with you more. I’m actually surprised anyone really loves the TV show. I haven’t seen a show move this slow since the 80′s, when TV truly sucked.

      • THANK YOU Mark. People aren’t seeing this, I don’t get it. Honestly I could read aloud the whole comic that covers the whole season so far to you in 2 hours. yet they need over 8 hours of drawn out drama and T.V time to get off the farm. common.

  5. Why aren’t we at the Prison already? Why weren’t we there 4 episodes ago? Where is Chris, Julie, and Tyreese? Why is Shane alive? Why is Sophia dead? Why is Otis Dead? Why was the ending of the farm nothing like the story (single file zombie massacre….weak)?

  6. I think they will stay on the “farm” for the rest of season 2 then they will leave at the beginning of season 3..but im tired of them lingering at the farm..and we all know NOW Hershel is on Rick’s side now so to speak..so that gives them even a bigger reason to stay at the farm..as well as Lori’s accident giving them yet another reason to stay..still cant wait to see next sundays episode!

  7. I liked the episode except for one thing, why on gods green earth would she try to send someone after rick and then decide to go herself…to make them hurry or something…they are going to move as fast as they can anyways. So now we see the horrible driving skills and the disregard for her son and the baby. Man that bit of the show irritated me, however the ending made me think I was watching Justified..that was cool.

  8. I agree with many here. We need to leave the farm. It’s starting to feel stale. Couple of questions and comments though.

    What happened to the helicopters that were in the first episode? They flew over and that was it? Taunt us with something like that and leave it?

    The wall building between the Rick and Shane camps is starting to get bigger. I know for the sake of the show, splitting them and trying to follow both camps would be stupid, but we need to do something with it.

    Lori’s an idiot. Plain and simple. The woman doesn’t have an ounce of brain in her head. It seems as though every decision she’s made is horrible, including the car wreck last night.

    I know this is stupid, but is anyone else bothered by how Rick handles his gun? Has anyone ever seen a cop hold a pistol so high in the air and aim downwards to shoot? It seems overly gangster to me to be held that way.

    And him shooting those two guys (yea Terriers!!) was brutal and really caught me off guard. That was an amazing scene.

    • The helicopter has a real sweet tie in later in the in terms of the comic. No idea how they will ruin it for the show though.

  9. You people do know that this is NOT FOLLOWING THE COMIC BOOKS….

    So for all the people that have read the books and want to compare it to the show and or expect it to be like the books….just stop.

    You will find stuff similar and some stuff straight from the books. What you wont find is a page by page transfer of the book to the TV show. You wont find all the plot elements and story lines exactly as they were in the books.

    It is amazing people still think this and call themselves fans of the show/books. If you were a fan you would already know this and stop asking for it.

    Stop expecting what was in the books to be conveyed exactly as such in the TV show.

    • I agree, I am of the thinking that if your a huge fan of the comics thats great, but why would you want the exact same story line on the TV, its like reading all the spoilers before you go and see a movie

      • I’m not interested in a word by word copy of the comic myself, but I’d really like to see some decent pacing and plot development.

      • you follow the comic at least somewhat beause that is where it came from. Same with everything else. What if Lord of the Rings just killed off the elf at the end of the first movie. People would hate it because it changed so much and it would suck. What if Silence of the Lambs went way off script, or one flew over the cuckoo nest? American psycho? The God father? Shawshank redemption, Girl with the dragon tattoo? Children of Men? Shindler’s list? Fight Club, Apocalypse now? The Help? Trainspotting? All were not completely based on but followed the literal material quite closely.

        Seems to me the only difference in deviating from the print is GREATNESS as most of those movies that follow the printed works tend to be much more successful in general.

        OMG WHAT A COINCIDENCE. But hey I would rather jeopardize the potential of the show so it can appeal to more people and keep ya guessing with lame plot twists and half assed resolutions, not to mention character degredation. Just the difference between something being legitimatley awesome and just “Ok” or “good” which is all The Walking Dead has become.

    • put it this way, they are losing fans of the comic book because they are butchering The Walking Dead. Those are suppose to be your constant viewers…your base. The more they go off track with stupid delaying drama the more people will get sick of it. Shame too could be a lot better. At this rate the show won’t exist long enough to tell the best parts of the story. That is why it matters to keep a close connection to the base material. Just a matter of potential. At this rate I would say we would be lucky to see the prison fall from the govenor. Lot of potential that isn’t being filled. The fact that Kirkman is greatly involved with the show also warrants comparison with the comic. Every batman show doesn’t get criticized because Bob Kane is long gone, it is someone else’s take and interpretation. Kirkman being the creator takes a lot more risk by changing things up than the average comic to film adaptation. Whatever though if jepeordizing their fan base at its heart is what they want to do in favour of upping the drama that’s their business I guess. Disappointment though at the end of the day in my books.

      • “put it this way, they are losing fans of the comic book because they are butchering The Walking Dead.”

        You are dead wrong…. :D

        You have The Walking Dead – The comic.
        You have The Walking Dead – TV show.

        One is one and one is the other. They both do what they intend to do. What is wrong with reading the comic and enjoying that ‘world’ and also watching the TV show and enjoying that ‘world’?

        I will never get to see some of the best comic story lines ever as they were originally told. Does that mean I should stop watching the movies?

        • sub in STORIES for LINES….. oops

  10. [Yawn] Did anything interesting happen in the mid-season premiere, or are they all still on the farm doing nothing but compaining about each other behind each others’ backs?

  11. Wow can we put in GIANT letters that even the guy who WROTE the comics said it’s not going to follow the comics!! What would be the point in them doing that?! Then everyone would know where the show is going!

    Don’t forget too, the guy who WROTE the comic books is part of this series so I HIGHLY doubt he’ll let something pass that he doesn’t support.

    I, for one, like the pace. If you want zombies all the time go watch one of the million movies that are out there. This show is different from everything else because it has the time to draw out storylines, introduce characters, give those characters meaning. I believe, if I’m not mistaken, that we all knew from the get go what this show would be. If I’m not mistaken, I think I remember reading that it would revolve more about the survival of the characters rather than the zombies.

    If you don’t like it, just stick to the comics and the 100 zombie movies/year that get released on Direct-to-DVD. Otherwise, open up your minds guys.

    • Well said!

      • I agree. Why are all the comic fan bois so eager to rush the story along?

        Then they will complain about it being too rush or didn’t spend enough time here or there..

        The truth that every director and producer in Hollywood has realised is… you can never please comic book fans, period.

        I have purposely not read these comics just because I want to enjoy the show. Nobody complains about other shows staying on a plot point for a whole season, so stop whining.

        Walking Dead is a great television that builds at its own pace and delivers nice tight endings based off this pace and tension. It is called the Walking Dead, not the Running Dead.

        If this show had never been a comic book, then all the fan bois would be screaming how wonderful it is and would be dancing in the street in Rick Grime costumes.

        We should be glad that a show like this exists.

        Also, for you fanbois, remember its is the boy that kills Shane and we, as a viewer, have to see that tension coming and make it believable. I have a feeling that this will happen at the end of the season and lead into Season 3.

        As much as I love Shane, I feel you will get your wish.

        • Well, if you don’t read the comics, then you will never understand what it is you are missing. All I can say is that the story from the comics is an order of magnitude better. This show is good, but only that “good”. It’s far from the best show on TV. It’s writing is plodding and cliched, and this isn’t coming just from me, a fan of the comic. I have several friends who agree and love watching other dramas that have far more plot development in a one hour piece. Just watch a single episode of House. More development in one show than six WD shows. There is no reason for this show plot plodding. If you analyze it you will see that the majority of the plot is people standing around doing almost nothing, or just arguing back and forth about something they already know the answer to. You should stop cursing the comic fan boys and listen to them because they are telling you the truth, this show is like a dead turtle.

          • And House isn’t standing around?? Hell, one of the characters needs a cane to help him stand around for a full episode…

            What a crappy comparison..let’s see… House…unknown disease, discuss, diagnoisis..wrong…ok, discuss, new diagnosis, wrong…ok,last minute diagnosis saves the day…

            House is on such a fast forward pace that when they begun the season with House in jail, he stayed there…one episode..one frigging episode for a dynamic and interesting plot point that could have brought a new dimension to the show…House is like most shows..too afraid to explore diverging plot point for the sake of characters..

            If you had mentioned Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, or even Dexter, I might have agreed but House..really??

          • Did you say “cliche”?????????????????? What have you been watching?

        • whatever man remember there wouldn’t be a show without the comic. Not the other way around. also most Hollywood renditions don’t have the creator on staff being as involved as Kirkman is. The show is completely different than the comic. I think he should have just called it something else if he was just going to abandone the comic.

      • Couldnt agree with you more there!! Everyday life is one big soap opera, there has to be drama in this show, there cannot be constant zombie killing all the time, I think that would really be boring and predictable, if this were a real situation there would DEFINITELY be drama!! How boring would it be to constantly be killing zombies!?! “so..what happened on The Walking Dead last night!?!” “oh you know, they killed a bunch of zombies” “oh…..” pretty sure that’s what it’d be like. I like what’s going on so far, but hate hearing people complain so much about the drama, this is one of THE best shows I’ve watched in a while besides Dexter lol

    • you follow the comic at least somewhat beause that is where it came from. And without it the latter would not exist Same with everything else. What if Lord of the Rings just killed off the elf at the end of the first movie? People would hate it because it changed so much and it would suck. What if Silence of the Lambs went way off script? or one flew over the cuckoo nest? American psycho? The Godfather? Shawshank redemption? Girl with the dragon tattoo? Children of Men? Shindler’s list? Fight Club, Apocalypse now? The Help? Trainspotting? All were not completely based on but followed the literal material quite closely. Sure it could be SHOCK VALUE when they don’t but that is flash in the pan stuff that doesn’t say much about the quality of the material. CHEAP THRILLS get old fast.

      Seems to me the only difference in deviating from the print is GREATNESS as most of those movies that follow the printed works tend to be much more successful in general.

      OMG WHAT A COINCIDENCE.

      But hey I would rather jeopardize the potential of the show so it can appeal to more people and keep ya guessing with lame plot twists and half assed resolutions, not to mention character degredation. Just the difference between something being legitimatley awesome and just “Ok” or “good” which is all The Walking Dead has become.

      It’s like it totally just ripped off the comic like a bad Batman adaptation. GOOD WORK KIRKMAN. Should not have lost Frank Durabont. Show has been downhill all season.

  12. I havent started season 2 yet, but am curious if they retouched on what the CDC Doctor whispered in Rick’s ear as everyone left the building before it blew in the season 1 finale?

    • negative. comes out after they get to the prison, once they are finally done on the farm……if that ever happens.

      • Or maybe they never do… which would be pretty humorous watching people rant over it.

        • yeah they can change it all they want the CDC episode was totally added in. There is one thing it could be in the source material but who knows how they would work it in. That would be when Rick and the gang find out that everyone is infected. Doesn’t matter if you die from a bite, or a gunshot, or a heart attack, you will still come back. This has a major affect on the mentality of the group knowing that no matter what they will not only die one day but also become a walker.

  13. This episode was a 180 type of episode for the season, definitely turning the show in the right direction. This second half looks like it is going to get very interesting and i think that this season will ultimately wind up with the group leaving the farm and starting the third season on the road again.
    I like the fact that Hershel is broken right now and is a man divided and torn in what he believes in. I feel that this character (if kept on alive) will get a lot grittier and darker. As for the other old man, the one that has problems with Shane, I think that killing him off would be a good move for the show, especially if Shane is involved.

  14. The ending made up for the whole episode man rick was totally bad ass and lori is just plain stupid seriously gezeez

  15. The premier episode was great and the events at the very end left me wanting more I don’t wanna spoil anything for someone who hasn’t seen the premier episode so I won’t go into details but imo its a good episode glad the walking dead is finally back.

  16. Aside from Lori’s boneheaded antics, I liked this episode.

  17. I thought it was fantastic. A slow-burner that builds to a riveting, ultimately violent confrontation with strangers. It did tend to suggest that the ultimate threat will not come from the ‘walkers’. To quote Pogo: “We have met the enemy, and his is us.” I did have a problem with Laurie’s accident, I thought “Why does she need to go after them?” She’s never felt the need before, it seemed contrived and unnecessary, but I’m hopeful it will be justified in future episodes. Still, all in all, another classic in the best show on TV right now, maybe one of the greatest ever.

  18. The episode was definelty a slow start but picked up quick when they went into th town. I was definelty suprised by loris accident. And I like Shanes character. I understan he dies in the comics but I like his character on the show thoug I don’t see him lasting much longer. I’m happy Rick is finally taking care of things. About damn time.

    Next week clips look really good. I can’t wait. It always leaves me wanting more.

  19. Most of us couldn’t give a **** about what happens in the comics, and don’t want to know because they could end up being spoilers if the show chooses to feature them in the future. If you’ve got a problem, don’t watch, but mostly don’t post. People who are used to a story in a certain medium should not experience it in another medium; they are never satisfied, but different media are like different language, something is always lost in translation. The fact is details don’t matter in an adaptation from one medium to the other. What matters is are they true to the SPIRIT of the source, not the LETTER of it.

    • How about you stop posting? The fact is that you seem to have no appreciation for good TV, no matter where the source material comes from.

      • Wow, that’s telling me! Well done!

        • Hey guys no need to be harsh about it. Remember play nice.

    • It isn’t “true to the spirit of the source” not at all. I am done watching but will continue to post all I want, despite your objection.

  20. I’m definitely in the camp that believes the show is still far too slow. It’s not just that there’s too little zombie action, which there is, but it’s also how long and plodding each scene becomes, with constant bickering and repetitive conversation. Think of the overview of what happened in this episode. They argued about killing the barn-full of zombies, they buried/burned the dead, Hershel ran off to get drunk and Rick and Glen followed only to meet up with two jerks from Jersey whom Rick then killed. That’s it. The bar scene after the Jersey boys showed up was awesome and full of the sort of stuff that makes the comic so great, although this scene wasn’t in the comics. The rest of the show was essentially filler, boring and dull.

    The scene where Lori runs after Rick and hits a zombie and crashes was classic cliche TV from the 1950′s, very poorly done. Now I’m sure a long and boring search for Lori will begin. I just can’t understand why the writers keep making up boring scenarios when there are actual good ones within the pages of the comics.

    Let’s not even discuss the fact that there was a nearly impossibly small window of opportunity for Otis to have found and stowed away the zombie Sophia. We’re talking maybe a window of maybe 8 hours, assuming she was bitten almost immediately after getting lost. Does Otis fetch zombies around the clock?

    • Right on Mark. I think similarily. A lot of bullsh*t cheesy filler drama with senseless plot development. This whole show had two good episodes (1&2) since then it has been downhill. Severely disappointed (especially as a huge fan of the comic) and will not be tuning in for the rest of this season for certain. Having fun teeny boppers with all the shallow slow moving drama going down.

    • I would have to challenge you on the too little zombie action and the bickering and repetitive conversations…..

      Sorry the book was not all zombie action and non bickering etc.

      Of course I haven’t kept current my last ish was when Michonne hung up her blade.

      However the book didn’t really have that much zombie interaction. It was all about the people. The zombies were just the backdrop and happened to be there.

      There is a lot of stuff in issues they were just filler leading up to the last page or so. Its how they got people to buy the next issue.

      Uh….. Sophia was gone for at least 1 day I believe before they found the farm/Otis. Quite simple for Otis to find her wandering, barn her then go Hunting….. She could have been bitten when she left Ricks care.

      Well its obvious you and a few others do not like how/where the show is going.

      However there are quite a few that do.

      • @ Aknot I hear what you are saying about the zombie action but it isn’t exactly quality zombie action either. Single file massacre as a “mid season finale” ……meh. Man wait till she takes that sword back down, best finales in the whole series.

  21. OK for all the idiots who think I am advocating for a page by page rendition of the comic….I AM NOT. I understand that Kirkman has said he isn’t following it. I GET THIS! I JUST THINK IT SUCKS! THAT IS MY OPINION. I am disappointed because it could be awesome. It has so much potential and I don’t see it fulfilling it. I am disappointed because I don’t think it will last long enough to even tell the best parts of the story. I understand, probably more than most, the change that comes with adapting stories to different mediums… I get this. I JUST THINK THEY ARE DOING IT TERRIBLY. I think it is double stupid when you have awesome material that you can pick and choose from to prevent the show from sucking as it is now and has been this whole second season. I will voice my disappointment before I stop watching the show and point out what I think is stupid and just rediculous drama appeal. and yeah I will point out it could be awesome, not by what I think but by what the whole thing was created from. If people can’t see the relevance between the comic and the show then I don’t know what to tell ya. Right now it seems like a batman comic that was jacked and made into a stupid movie. The fact that Kirkman is so involved also matters. It isn’t like Bob Kane gets to be involved in Batman interpretations. Therefore I am disappointed in Kirkman. Especially for someone who held out making the walking dead for years because he didn’t want to taint it (HBO wanted to do it) only to what???? Undertake the project with AMC? please…….. they can’t even swear for crying out loud. He seemed to always be against selling out and spin offs and now you have a “talking dead” show about the walking dead (WEAK!). On top of that my biggest worry is that it will translate to his writing of the comic (still ongoing). Which definitely just had the worst volume of the whole series released. And what a coincidence it is the only one written after the show started.

    For all those who think I need to open my mind……Please. without the comic backing this show……well I hate to say it but it isn’t all that great. Something for all the DRAMA QUEENS out there I suppose.

    For those who think I just want to see zombie killing and should watch any one of 100 zombie movies. Obviously you don’t know what your talking about. The human interactions and stories in the walking dead is what makes it wicked. Unfortunately the show is by passing most of the actually edgy storyline all together.

    Like honestly, whose sleeping with who? whose got secrets? who knew she was in the barn? are they dead or alive? you offended me…….give me a break! what is this the O.C? I thought it was a hardcore apocalyptic epic. Instead I all I see is bullsh*t contribed drama sequences that have no real purpose, basis, and are nearing boredom. Glenn and his high school drama, Sophia in the woods??? the zombie in the well?? I thought Breaking Bad had the title for making NOTHING seem important and taking forever to get there but looks like the walking dead is right behind it.

    I got no problem with the show not being exactly like the comic (like I said I get this)….But I would like it to be a little bit like the comic. Otherwise it isn’t much.

    Let me know when this show grows up from this melodramatic rendition of the zombie apocalypse for high school students into a mature version of the adult comic series like the first two episodes. Until then I am out. One lost viewer, but hey you still get my buck for the comic.

    • Poor Paul

  22. Haven’t read the comics, but Shane, Lori and Andrea should be left on the side of the road for various reasons. Shane is just the classic Iago character and his desire to be Rick and still have his family as his own will blow (sooner hopefully then later). Lori is just dishonest to herself more then anyone else and is going to end up getting someone else killed covering her BS. Andrea is the same way. Her need to prove how tough she is despite already trying to punch her own ticket makes her irrational and dangerous, kind of like how she shot Daryl trying to prove what a bad ass she is.

    As I said not having read the source material yet (and with this type of show I am kind of holding off for obvious reasons), I don’t know how far along this is supposed to be story-wise, but they might be making some creative choices to ensure they have enough material to run the show and not just have them wandering aimlessly with no place to go, both literally and figuratively. The nature of this kind of story is that they will either have to keep moving to try and find somewhere safe to hold up, or when they do settle down they will be forced to leave do to zombies showing up, or like what was teased in this episode, other hostile living people.

    • dude thank you for proving my point. Your calling out of the characters is completely accurate. It also shows just how much the deviation from the source material has tainted teh character development. Just some noted differences off the top of my head. Andrea never has that breakdown (she is hardcore throughout the comic), Shane is used as the plot development tool that his character should be used for and is used in a timely fashion (in comic). There is plenty of material. Enough for at least 4 solid seasons of 12 episodes (one hour each) and it would be nonstop action and crazieness with one turn after the next. I would suggest checking out the comic as it will set a lot of things right. Especially Lori…you would love what happend to Lori.

      • Hmmm, maybe I will pick the comic up sooner than later. I just won’t try to apply anything from it to the show, I know I get enough practice with everything else they adapt these days.

  23. Wow, a Hollywood adaptation differs from the source material? I certainly hope this doesn’t happen again….

  24. WARNING UNSPOILER ALERT (what I put down in unlikely to happen anyway so it really isn’t a spoiler)

    here is why the comic is important and relevant to the validity, potential, and overall standard of the show.

    STRUCTURE- Why are they still on the farm? the comic is ongoing and in its 16th volume. The farm is a very small part in the grand scheme and should have been 4 episodes 5 maximum (could’ve been done pretty wickedly with 3). Otherwise they will saturate the storyline by jamming all the wicked parts into pretext. This will prove detrimental to the plot development as we are seeing.

    Also we are seeing the omission of wicked plot and action scenes with Wilshire estates being left out. I mean common. Zombies thawing out from being frozen and ambushing the gang after they think they’ve hit the jackpot…..main characters get killed off, it’s awesome. Really shows the unforgiving and unpredictable nature of the world they live in and how little they know about it. better off without it I guess.

    Characters- The character development has been hugely compromised to the point where some of these characters are unrecognizable. Not to mention the untimely deaths of Otis and Sophia who contribitute long past the farm. In fact Sophia is still one of the few original surviving members in the comic. Huge complications for Carl’s character development. Dale is this pansy, manipulative father detective figure……where is that from? Andrea is getting there but still had the whole suicide thing (Andrea is way to tough for that). Shane is where he needed to be 9 episodes ago. Rick is getting weak because all we are seeing is this dramatic reflection and questioning all the time because nothing is really happening. The comic spaces it out with worthwhile events and moves on before Rick can ever really get his footing. That is the whole point of Rick’s struggle as a leader, continously trying to figure out his mistakes all the while having an even worse situation come down on him. That is what makes Rick Grimes the best character in comics. Raw human will and desire to survive increasinlg dangerous scenarios coupled with the massive tragedies he experiences as consequence for his mistakes and indecisiveness. There is a time in the comic when Rick tries to step down but that comes way later.

    Standard- The comic lets puts the time line in perspective. Right now we are stuck in this small part for a long period of time for some reason. They need to find the prison, deal with the inmates there, go back get Hershel, find Woodbury, go to war with the govenor, lose everyone (major kill off of main characters), find survivors, deal with the Hunters, find the Alexandria Safe Zone, take that over and defend it. WE DON’T HAVE TIME TO DICK AROUND ON THE FARM. this show would have to run over a decade.

    • Why are they still on the farm?

      It is a safe haven. If common Joe is watching the show and they were hurriedly trying to leave the farm Joe would want to know WHY they were in such a hurry to leave. I mean it is a SAFE place.

      Also we are seeing the omission of wicked plot-etc

      Who says we are not going to see that? Common Joe does not know about that so how can they miss something they know nothing about? Yes Virginia there are more people watching it that have no clue about the comics then do.

      main characters get killed off -

      This I do miss. It would give a lot however on the same vein some people like to have anchors. You also have “Hwood” backing it and if you start dropping actors left and right its just seen as bad business. Its not a model conducive of a TV series.

      The character development has been hugely compromised to the point where some of these characters are unrecognizable.

      Again unrecognizable by whom? Me, Mark, you, etc? Of course but guess what? My wife is fine with them. So are other people I know that have not read the books….which are still a lot more then I know that have read the books.

      The comic lets puts the time line in perspective.

      Again you bring the books timeline up against the shows timeline after already saying you know the show does not follow the book….. eh? Look you have more viewers that have no idea what you are talking about. Those people pay the bills. If it was just ‘us’ the show would not stay on the air.

      This is just like every other Superhero movie/adaptation etc out there. They have to keep everyone happy not just us nerds.

      • I get it. I know why they do it. I know nothing will change. I am just simply venting my frustration through my opinion. And your totally right, it is the same old story. Not to mention the show got me into the comic which got me out of the show…..I was foolishly hoping that I could handle the T.V adaptation and put my biases aside like any of us do with any book. Guess it’s just my fav book so I’m more stubborn than usual. At first I couldn’t watch it on AMC with all the ads and commercials blowing it up into something it isn’t. Now it’s time for me to take a hiatus from this show. like you said though no different than any many other disappointing comic adaptation.

        And without the comic standard backing this show I just don’t think it is very good. I think they have been on the farm way too long even for the common joe. People can watch Little House on the Zombie Prairie but I’m gonna have to pass on the rest. They could come up with good plot….but I haven’t seen any good plot outside of what they have followed from the comic. Doesn’t matter to the common joe but again I think I am gonna pass. And since the common joe doesn’t know anything about the source stories then why bother wasting the time changing them so drastically in the first place. The time line may be irrelavant, to me it is just what could have been that probably won’t and if it is, it will be so different that it won’t be worth watching. The show does have connections to the comic as well that should warrant some level of adhesion. Basically they value that all mighty dollar over a more valid representation of the work. Just because I haven’t read it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or isn’t relevant.

        All and all i just thought it would have been done better. It hasn’t been in my opinion so now I am gonna stop watching it. I gave it a lot more of a chance than most shows and it hasn’t delivered so I’m done. I am sure it will continue to be successful and popular and I just won’t get it like so many other things I don’t get.

        • Now get this….

          I would LOVE to see an exact transition of the book with the actors they have (I think they did that well also).

          Sadly though I know it will never happen so I take what I can get.

          Again though I could say the same thing about…

          Spiderman
          Batman
          Superman
          Fantastic Four
          Daredevil
          Transformers
          The Avengers
          etc.

          I at least think we are at the level with movies and TV that we can have our cake and eat it too. :D

          • I can agree with you there. However the difference between all those other comics is the amount of material. You can make 100 Batman and Superman movies and not one would have to share a storyline. They are so expansive. Also they would not have their original creators on set. So I do blame KIRKMAN for this.

            The difference (and what I hoped..again foolishly) was that because there is only one version of the walking dead. It isn’t like spiderman, superman or batman. One series, one version of Characters, one story. there is not 25 different versions of Rick Grimes like there is with Superman, Batman, ect. There is no wealth of storylines to mish, mash or pick and choose. Therefore I had hoped for it to be a little more structured to the original. My point being is that I would judge the walking dead harder than a new adaptation of superman. Because there is so much information over so much time and I understand the challenge of filmamkers to find something that fits for a broad audience. However walking dead is not at the same level as all these other comic characters, they don’t have as many options (in my opinion) without jeopardizing the validity of the work.

            I do agree the at the Casting for the Walking Dead is bang on. I mean BANG BANG on, like Sin City by Frank Miller bang on. Whoever casted the walking dead deserves some credit there.

            It is few and far between good comic adaptations. I judge harshly about the ones I know about to maintain a my own personal standard. Not many pass. Sin City, Batman Dark knight, Spiderman 2, X men 2, are a few that I would actually spend money on. Iron man, Hulk, Spiderman 3, X-men first class, thor, ect all just “ok”. entertaining to watch like one time in my life and probably never again

            • I was just comparing it to mainstream character arcs/beliefs. In theory there is only one Spiderman (to the general masses) and he never had organic web shooters.

              In mainstream there is only one type of Zombie. Romero Zombie. What makes this Zombie show different is it is not reliant on the Zombie. The Zombies could easily be replaced with Aliens, Ghosts, etc.

              So when it is boiled down the show is just a soap opera (as is the comic) about people.

              The story lines overall do not matter as long as the drama is present.

              I mean if the show portrayed the people of Alexandria (just as well as they are doing the show now with the drama etc.) would it be any less popular?

              I mean my wife wouldn’t know the difference nor would the bigger chunk of the viewing audience.

              So its just a different ‘world’ with similar characters. It is still The Walking Dead though. Just like it is not our world.

              Anyho… I hope you continue to watch it. It is still good TV IMO, one of the best out there, zombie or not.

              • I would have to question your broad definition of a “Soap Opera” in particular how in bridges the gap from television to literary works.

                It is funny you keep mentioning your wife, because I have the exact opposite thing going on with my girl. She liked it for the first bit but definitely is not too keen on the second season and can take it or leave it. She seen the wire, sopranos and other good shows and just wasn’t impressed by where it went. I tried to make excuses for it and basically couldn’t even convince myself any further. She never read the comic either. Interesting comparison is all.

                It would definitely continue to be popular for sure. Just like most other literary work to movie or television. Just wouldn’t do justice to the original source material in the opinion of a few people who don’t really matter in relation to the shows success or popularity.

                • I use soap opera very liberally. :D

                  If it is not a definitive Comedy, Horror, Superhero or SciFi it is a soap opera….. ;)

                  More or less replace drama with Soap Opera. Take away everything and if you look at it TWD is a soap opera with the power struggles, forbidden love and love triangles.

                  I mention my wife because she is always asking me well what about this and what about that…. Im like I don’t know… I can tell you what happens in the books but I got no clue here. :D

                  • Ya I can understand the show being a soap opera (one reason I am done with it)But you think the comic book would be better described as a “soap opera” rather than a Horror……?????? Your on your own there buddy.

                    • To me the biggest ‘horror’ factor in the books is the people.

                      How the event (no not the crappy TV show) changed people and society in general.

                      Again if you take away the zombies and make them something else (even if there were no bad things – Think The Stand) the people will change.

                      So yes I believe it is more soap opera than horror.

  25. The fact that random zombies are walking around, how come the farm has none? The people go out and about as if there were some kind of force field protecting the place. I don’t get that.

    And yes, last night’s episode was sooo slow after waiting for promised action. I also hope it gets moving again as in the survivors. I hated that they found some sanctuary first season only to have it blow up, then to spend an entire season in one spot, please…..road trip!

  26. I am willing to make a bet there are way more people watching and loving the show that never read the comics than there are people that did. I don’t know why people think the comic book fan base is so important. I would even go so far as to say only 10% of the viewership ever read the comics. This is a show that my wife loves as well and that’s cool in my book.

    • Yeah but I saw the show, got interested, bought all the comics, realized how much the show is lacking, and quit watching the show. Since the show started The Walking Dead comic has been a consistent top seller. So hopefully more people don’t come to the same conclusion as me. Otherwise you would have an interesting market plan there. Whatever though, doesn’t really matter. Just as observation.

      • Did you really quit watching the show? Really?

      • Or they may understand why the TV show is different and just accept two presentations of a story enjoying them both for what they are…..

        That’s a concept.

        • @ Aknot Oh I understand the differences in presentations and concepts all too well. I am just taking a stand for one I believe in and endorse over the others. Nothing wrong with that. I take stands on a lot of things I don’t endorse that other people do happily. Doesn’t mean I’m wrong or your wrong, just opinion and a stance. If they make a movie or another show down in the future I will give it the same shot I gave this one.

          @ Couchtater- After seeing the mid season premier…yep done, maybe come back at a much later date, but highly unlikely. I found myself thinking the only way it could get me back on board is if they killed off Shane for the mid season premier. Instead I saw the same crap as all season. I don’t usually write comments on this stuff, I just am today because I won’t ever be again. I also feel stupid as sh*t for talking it up to people after the first few episodes of the 1st season.

  27. I do have a question for those that watched last night….

    Did Tony have the Shotgun in hand? It always looked like he was going for a handgun in the small of his back.

    I guess he could have had it/grabbed it when Rick shot Dave it just seemed like sloppy editing.

    • what about the Glen? The whole scene was rediculous. Rick is sitting there in between two guys with guns, clearly showing aggression. Glenn sitting there with one of the biggest guns he’s held yet and……does nothing…..????…Rick ends up pulling a cowboy move while Glen watches……??? I didn’t get why it went to a showdown but whatever. Toony did have a shotgun that he did pull to try and shoot Rick. However in the shot before Tony did seem to be reaching for a gun behind his back.

      • Well shooting a Zombie and shooting a person is two different things. There are people that just cant do it.

        If you have never fired a weapon at a human it is quite a difficult thing to do.

        You have to realize that while sped up that was probably over before Glenn even figured out what was going on.

        I think Rick had already decided he may have to shoot one or both earlier on. Glenn was clueless to the fact it was going to go that far. Herschel probably knew but didn’t care at that point.

        • Complete Hypothetical here: If I was Rick I would’ve popped Glen afterwards. I would’ve been like “thanks for all your help. That the same kind of fast action we can expect when everyone is depending on us. The Zombie apocalypse is not a spectator sport, those who sit on the side lines will end up dead or at least a danger to the whole group.

          This is a consistent problem in the comic, especially where Glen and his pussiness almost loses the Alexandria Safe Zone for the group. I think he leaves the group soon after. Basically they leave Glen to hold it down and he gets b**** slapped by one of the random characters. Then the Rick and the Gang come back to an insurrection, and all the hardcores (Michone, Rick, Abraham, Andrea) have to take care of things.

          • Yeah but Glenn has his uses. Rick brought a knife (Glenn) to a gun fight.

            Everyone has a place and a service.

            Rick also owes Glenn. So one might say they are even now as it was Glenn that helped Rick out of the tank.

            Remind me if there’s a Zombie apocalypse not to mess up around you…. :D

            • lol Don’t worry Aknot I’m the loner type.

  28. One big difference between comics and television: budget.
    I imagine it’s a lot cheaper to shoot on a farm than… other places.

    • Yeah, they did make a big deal about the budget and not wanting to do as many outdoor shoots with big numbers of Walkers. So that might be a factor too.

  29. KI have a live album where people are shouting requests, and the singer says, “What? Did you come here to hear some old albums?” Although I’ve never read the comics….Maybe it’s not such a bad idea that the show doesn’t follow the comics verbatum. That way it keeps those who think they know what’s going to happen next surprised when something new happens…..As long as the general underline theme is followed…Let the games continue…

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