they use a lot of clever “real footage” forge techniques, many of them previously used in Blair Witch and others, but some of them were new.

the ending made it ambiguous if indeed the ones performing the abductions were aliens or paranormal entities. The astronaut-ancient god realtion has got a lovercraftian touch, and also reminded me of an old Erik Von Danniken book.

if its real or not, some of it is of course real.. aliens exist, ufos exist.. and yes i believe abductions exist.

if its real or not, some of it is of course real.. aliens exist, ufos exist.. and yes i believe abductions exist.

you have no common sence when you watch movies, clearly.

2nd Thessalonians 2:9-12 9 “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.”

Dave,

I’m not one to answer a question with a question, unless the questions will help me find an answer. At this point if you have to make me imagine, which I tried to do during this movie, your not answering my question.

But I will humor you. If I was the FBI looking at the situation I would think that she was crazy and needed physiatric help that does NOT involve hypnosis. And saving lives would have involved stopping her from practicing. There are a lot of other ways to figure out if aliens were messing with these people other than hypnosis which would have taken this movie to another level in my opinion.

After watching the film I left with these questions;
1.) If hypnosis works so well why was she not able to see that her husband committed suicide?
(Aliens implanting a false memory doesn’t work in this situation because they did the same thing when they abducted people and yet via hypnosis they saw what happened to them.)
2.) If her husband did commit suicide wouldn’t that discredit this whole movie based on hypnosis?
3.) What if aliens were truly messing with the hypnosis tapes, wouldn’t all of them have the same distortion?
4.) If the tapes had that level of distortion wouldn’t the audio have the same type of distortion, almost making none of the audio recognizable?
5.) Why did everyone involved in that ordeal give up on that “crazy” woman and want nothing to do with this film?
6.) Why would an alien say its god? (Felt that an extraterrestrial would more or less say that there is no god.)

Now these are some questions that were going through my head during the film. All of which lead me to think that nothing presented was believable, other than the history lesson, which almost every civilization has including ours. Also at the end I felt that it was a “supernatural power” and not an alien.

The only thing that helps this movie in supporting an alien abduction theory is the daughter going missing. But even then the film makers didn’t do their homework to find a city that actually has a missing child. If you try to do a search for missing children in Nome, Alaska within the last 20 years you will come up with no results.

But overall to me, this movie had lazy written all over it but had potential to be better. While somewhat entertaining I left the theater disappointed. Not that I thought via a movie I was going to be taught something but the fact that they screwed up their own story so badly. If your going to make a movie like this then you need to make sure your story supports itself instead of dismantling what you tried to create. I’ve seen a lot of extraterrestrial documentaries and movies that are better than this joke of one.

The same is true for ETs….If they exist and visit us, and have been for some time, without making any contact, and in fact doing everything possible to keep their existence hidden, it would make sense that they were sinister or had motives that we would find sinister.

Ohm, no…because Sumarian was a language Isolate. It is not related to Akkadian (which Assyrian is related to). It is also NOT the oldest know, it is just the first one that had a writing system we know of, and even that may be in dispute.
Unfortunately, records were destroyed by the tribe of Conan (thanks a lot )

“I’m curious, what other FACTS are presented in this movie other than the whole Sumerian language/history issue?”

Imagine you are involved at any level with what is claimed to have occurred in the film. Would you really keep pushing it? Really? Even if you are FBI you are not stupid, screw saving lives and doing your job when you are up against something like this, ever see The Entity?

Everyone involved in that ordeal gave up on that poor woman and wants nothing to do with a supernatural power that can KILL you at will.

How is this for a fact, who cares what it is doing this or why or finding out any evidence, screw that. the He!! with Nome, Alaska.

Whether or not it really happened no one who came against this thing will EVER want to talk about it and that is not the issue. The issue is that this was a damn good movie. If you are into the “alien thing” then…

James made Adrian’s point by the way, all languages came from somewhere and Sumerian is the oldest known. Assyrian, Akkadian- whatever.

Disclaimer:

I am descended from the middle-eastern tribe of Conan who is responsible for the destruction of Assyrians, and subsequent enslavement therefore I cannot really be on Adrian’s side due to the whole family member killing your ancestors thing.

And no, no matter how much you want to wish it so Assyrian does not have roots with Sumarian, it shares roots with Akkadian, which was a completely different language with completely different roots. They both adopted cuneiform from the Sumarians because that was dominant system of writing in the area (and that does not make them anymore related than Polish and Malay, which both currently use the Latin Alphabet). However, Aramaic had its own alphabet based on the Phoenician script (you do know that that language came from the Fertile Crescent area, not Mesopotamia, right?).

I’ll give you the simple version, because I dont feel like writing term papers on screen rants. There were Sumarians, they spoke a language which was what is known as a language isolate. They were NOT a Semitic and spoke a non Semitic language. They were later conquered by the Akkadians, who were a semitic people who spoke a semitic language, and Akkadian became the lingua franca of the region (replacing Sumarian). Assyrian and Babylonian have their roots in Akkadian. Aramaic is also a semitic language and shares that with Akkadian and Assyrian. Which all has NOTHING to do with Sumarian. The fact that Akkad conquered Sumar, does not make Akkadian the same thing or even related to Sumarian. I think this is where your confusion is from. Maybe You are confusing Akkadian and Sumarian. Who knows? Maybe your obsession over some genealogical mythology is clouding your thinking.

“thousands of years of assyrian heritage”…means nothing. My great great great grandpappy was a Turk, so what, doesnt make me an expert on Troy. Personally, Its kind of sad that people have to wrap themselves up in some ancestral mythology (5000 years ago there was a civilization there, and you act like you had something to do with it…lol, in reality its as much your actual heritage as it is mine). I never got that…does believing you may have a Sumarian ancestor from 5000 years ago actually make you feel special? Ah, whatever.

Anyway, I’ve actually been to Ur several times (near modern Nasiriyah), and would have loved to discuss this stuff with you in a nicer way in a different forum… But you want to get all undeservably pompous with your ‘uneducated American’ stuff…I’ll knock you back to the Gutian period.

I believe that an educated person never underestimates a group of people. Neither would an educated individual think that his bloodline dictates his level of knowledge.

But back to the main subject at hand, The Fourth Kind.

You stated this;
“anyways fake or not, this film was very interesting if you know your history facts right…this movie had alot of them!”

I’m curious, what other FACTS are presented in this movie other than the whole Sumerian language/history issue?