CW’s ‘The Flash’ Will Get Standalone Pilot; Costume Won’t Debut on ‘Arrow’

Published 1 year ago by , Updated November 19th, 2013 at 11:37 am,

The Flash in The Flashpoint Paradox CWs The Flash Will Get Standalone Pilot; Costume Wont Debut on Arrow

DC and Warner Bros. may not have quite caught up with their Marvel Studios counterparts, as far as creating a shared universe between its film and television projects. However, it definitely appears – between the looming 2015 release of Batman vs. Superman and the recent announcement of an Arrow spinoff centering on the Flash – that DC is hatching plans of its own.

Green Arrow is currently the only DC hero to headline a live-action series, and the CW had initially planned on introducing The Flash in three episodes of Arrow season 2. The first two episodes – set to air in December – would bring the speedy hero’s alter-ego police investigator Barry Allen (Grant Gustin) to Starling City, and he would re-appear once more late in the season in a “backdoor pilot” episode designed to serve as a springboard for the Flash spinoff. However, it appears that is no longer the case.

According to Deadline, the CW was so pleased with Gustin’s first two appearances that the network has instead decided to feature The Flash in a traditional standalone pilot. As such, the character will not appear in costume and is unlikely to acquire his superpowers on Arrow. Both series share the same creative team, as Arrow co-creators Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg and writer Geoff Johns are behind the Flash pilot. David Nutter – who directed the Arrow pilot – will also do so for the new series.

It remains to be seen if Gustin will appear or be referenced at all on Arrow season 2 following his two-episode arc, but the decision to expand the Flash origin story and loosen its ties to Arrow is a curious move on the part of the storytellers. Of course, it should allow a better opportunity to delve into the circumstances that result in the character’s super-speed. Still, it also effectively downplays the new show’s connection to Arrow and raises even more questions regarding how the CW series will be connected to the inevitable Justice League film.

Grant Gustin to play Barry Allen AKA The Flash in Arrow season 2 CWs The Flash Will Get Standalone Pilot; Costume Wont Debut on Arrow

Arrow star Stephen Amell has previously dropped hints that he may eventually join Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck onscreen, but recent developments have also indicated that the show may be casting its own version of Nightwing separate from the rumored film version, leading some to believe that the DC television universe might be entirely separate from the films.

We recently speculated that DC/WB may be shying away from committing to a shared multimedia universe in order to integrate only the properties that have proven successful.  The announcement then that the proposed Flash show will be less tied to Arrow could, in fact, be a safeguard to protect the success of Arrow in the event that Flash flops. If the new show is a hit, then Flash and Arrow could both carry over into the Justice League film; but if the Flash show flops, Arrow could still stand on its own and bring Amell to the big screen, where a new version of the Flash could be introduced, if necessary.

Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen in Arrow City of Heroes CWs The Flash Will Get Standalone Pilot; Costume Wont Debut on Arrow

That being said, DC’s road to the Justice League film (and how it hopes to integrate its growing number of television projects) is largely a mystery. We’ve already speculated on what their approach, but now it’s your turn to speak up.

Do you think that the CW’s decision to push the Flash origin story to the new show is a smart move? What do you think it means about DC’s plans for the future? Sound off in the comments section.

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Stay tuned to Screen Rant for updates on the Flash spin-off as this story develops.

Source: Deadline

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  1. I just don’t understand D.C./WB. If you do the films/characters like they should be done I don’t think they would have any problems with the fans or the critics. Problems occur I feel is when you try to deviate from the blue prints that have already been laid out before you from the comics and past shows/movies. If you don’t have the budget to do things the right way then don’t do them at all. Yet, the technology is available for proper execution, so find the right people who actually want to execute things properly and get it done. As for casting issues, if you lack the confidence in the person you casted then maybe you need to consider someone else who may have a stronger chance of doing the part more efficiently. The only reason why Marvel is killing D.C. in the silver screen movie race is because Marvel knows how to pull the trigger. D.C., pull the trigger! Zack Snyder just showed you that it can easily be done with proper execution and dedication. What more do you need D.C.?

    • The Zak Snyder Man of Steel movie was only OK. Let’s not go throwing around praise like “easily…done” and “proper execution and dedication”. Just because it was the most successful Superman property in recent years doesn’t mean much when compared with the utter s**** that’s been peddled in the name of Superman for the last decade or so. Arrow is a much tighter enterprise than Man of Steel was.

    • CW and WB’s problem isn’t “fans” or critics. It’s that their product can’t prosper with just those two constituencies. Arrow and SHIELD are both huge flops (journalist telling us they’re hits to the contrary) and there’s no reason to expect the Flash show to attract any more viewers, especially that it’s made by the same people who have proven their lack of talent at attracting audiences. I mean, really, hire a producer from Hannibal, the flop TV show…. Really… :(

  2. Part of me is glad, I’m still very skeptical about superpowers in Arrow I mean the whole miracle supersoldiers thing I can get behind as it’s got a somewhat more realistic explanation from like super steroids or whatever I don’t really know. But a super collider creating super speed feels out of place to me but it’s all about how they do it if they do stick superpowers in Arrow.

  3. They need to make a flash movie and a wonder woman movie already both of the characters are way more popular than thor or iron man ever were before their respective movies came out and now they are house hold names. Warner bros just do it already please!

  4. the arrow episode with barry was so beautifully done that it brought a tear to my eye. Cant wait for the flash pilot.

  5. DC/WB’s problem is they’re afraid. “We could do this but it might not work and we’d lose money” where Marvel is “Nobody has ever heard of Guardians Of The Galaxy? Eh, we’ll do it anyway”. And now Marvel leads the charge and DC just left the starting gate and is now confusedly trying to figure out which direction to go.

  6. When I was a kid growing up in the mid 60′s I was glued to the TV and then, the comics or a Mad Magazine. Aquaman, Superman, Batman were my favorites on Saturday mornings. Well I still love the Looney Tunes. So I ask what the heck is Warner Brothers waiting for? Take the chance and Re-Launch your strength in this. You have the library and the money. What you may lack is the ability to take a chance for long term stability and only are looking for short term profit.

  7. I agree with most of the above. Aside from hardcore fanboys, Thor and Iron Man were way down on the B list in the Marvel Universe prior to the Movies. To be honest, the Thor and Cap movies were merely decent. But Marvel is putting out a lot with many flops. Punisher, Ghost Rider, Elektra, Dare Devil almost all of the X-men franchise with the exception of First Class…the list is lengthy. The difference is that they are building a booming franchise with their few successes that will last for many years to come. I personally prefer DC comics over Marvel bc I can relate to the Characters more. I loved Smallville and Arrow so far. I thought Man of Steel had potential but s*** the bed overall. They really should build off their TV universe. They already have a fan base the TV shows. Why not build on that and have the movies create new fans that will go buy all the seasons of the shows to get the whole story. I’m really glad they did not use Justin Hartley for GA though and Arrow didn’t really follow that version of the Emerald Archer. Wonder woman will be a hard sell as a stand alone but definitely needs to have her place in the story. I mean who really read WW comics? She had roles in the comics we read but no one I knew really went out to get the latest WW comic.

    • Not to undermine your point but it is worth noting that those flops weren’t produced by Marvel Films. Ghost Rider, Elektra, Daredevil and the X-men movies are all on Fox. I -think- Punisher is too. I could be wrong.

    • Keep in mind that Box Office numbers are jacked up by the studios.

      When you look at the Marvel TV shows, where we have real numbers, you see how they’ve all flopped.

      It’s probably why they chose to go to Netflix where they can safely pretend everything is a hit without those nasty Nielsens to explain to the shareholders.

  8. I agree with most of the above. Aside from hardcore fanboys, Thor and Iron Man were way down on the B list in the Marvel Universe prior to the Movies. To be honest, the Thor and Cap movies were merely decent. But Marvel is putting out a lot with many flops. Punisher, Ghost Rider, Elektra, Dare Devil almost all of the X-men franchise with the exception of First Class…the list is lengthy. The difference is that they are building a booming franchise with their few successes that will last for many years to come. I personally prefer DC comics over Marvel bc I can relate to the Characters more. I loved Smallville and Arrow so far. I thought Man of Steel had potential but s*** the bed overall. They really should build off their TV universe. They already have a fan base the TV shows. Why not build on that and have the movies create new fans that will go buy all the seasons of the shows to get the whole story. I’m really glad they did not use Justin Hartley for GA though and Arrow didn’t really follow that version of the Emerald Archer

  9. Arrows and the Green Lantern movie take place in the same universe, look at the Farris Air plane that was almost shot down, you’ll see it has the same logo as in the movie.

  10. Hypothesis: the Justice League will be introduced in Batman vs. Superman, but would have already been operating without Superman for years; i.e., Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Nightwing, and Green Arrow would already have been working together in allegiance for some time, and the movie will revolve around how they respond to a new threat/hero: Superman. Their origin as a group, however, will be explored in the Green Arrow and Flash television series, and the Batman vs. Superman movie will take place long after the series end, so they can hire older actors to portray aged versions of Stephen Amell’s Oliver Queen and Grant Gustin’s Barry Allen.

  11. So the bad writers behind the ratings flop known as Arrow are behind The Flash.

    How exciting. I was wondering how Greg Berlanti was going to survive… but noe he gets to produce another bad TV show… Add to that sorry bunch Chris Brancato, a man of many talents, none of which are writing or producing…

  12. Metahumans………Gotta bring in Static Shock for a buddy team up!