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Beau Ethridge says:

Touche’… the film medium IS THE ultimate medium. AND with that, it carries a heavy responsibility due to its far reaching ability to shape minds and ultimately; opinions. So the argument is not only valid but VERY INTRIGUING…

FarEEK says:

I say this, this film, nor any that come before it are responsible for how we act. When Charles Whitman climbed the UT tower in Austin, what film was to blame? The crusades? You can make the argument that religion causes more violence than any other force. Are people influenced? YES, JAWS kept me out of the water. This movie, like all before or after, is simply a look into an imaginary world where forces of good and evil meet. Sometimes a movie can be a reflection into our deepest fears and darkest behaviors, some are thought provoking and some are here for entertainment. I gather this film does a bit of both. It was interesting enough to make us write.

790 says:

I believe most of the comments reflect the posters bad taste.

I agree that other forces usually contribute to mass killings not films.
@FarEEK,,,
Case in point, Charles Whitman suffered from a brain tumor.
This was found in the autopsy…

A Rose says:

I’ve got an idea. How about the adults take on some responsibility and NOT allow their impressionable young teens access to Rated-R movies they shouldn’t be watching anyway!

SecretAffair says:

Hell yeah!!! this does look awesome!! accept it we are in sick society!!!

Aknot says:

* I was merely asking the question if this is the proper topic given our current social trends.

Just because you can tell a certain story, doesn’t always mean you should, *

You will always have people that dont’t want a particular story told. If that was followed stories would ever get told.

bidnaman says:

Can’t wait for the video game

FarEEK says:

I will watch this movie as i do all movies, to be entertained. I am not looking for the answers to life or impending spiritual questions to be answered in a theatre. The idea that some stories should not be told is ridiculous, and who gets to decide what those stories are? Let me guess, not me. Horrible events happen whether we make movies or not. Fin.

the old man says:

” I am not looking for the answers to life or impending spiritual questions to be answered in a theatre.”

That’s the danger, because it’s when were not looking is exactly when we find that we’ve been influenced. If you recognize it and work it to your long term benefit then great. Just remember their are many sides to most stones, and unless your prepared you can’t rake hot coals into your lap and not get burned…

Beau Ethridge says:

If you chose not to tell stories of hate, death, dispair, darkness, etc… then do you expect the world to change? For those things to go away? NO… you can never extinguish those by turning your head; you eradicate those by communicating about them, identifying them, and solving the problem. Too many parents pretend these issues don’t exist. BUT FACT IS: they do whether we like it or not

ogb says:

I think a lot of ppl are saying that there’s a line that was crossed with this trailer. Sure, we all want entertainment and an “entertaining” movie is a broad and subjective term in itself. However this type of media, in the minds of most, somewhat crosses the line. And I’m totally cool with that.

You ask “if stories of hate, death, racism, etc. are not told then how can we change”? I ask, if stories of senseless and glorified violence, torture, rape, child molestation are told too much, wouldn’t that exposure numb some of the stigma towards these things?

A touchy subject indeed and I don’t think the filmmakers behind this movie have thought it through at all. To me, it seems like they’re in it for money and notoriety, which is such a wrong way to approach this subject matter.

joeslankas says:

There is no justification period to go into school and murder people. I don’t care if you got wedgies, or swirlies, or people laughed at you, or girls wouldn’t go out with you. You want the best revenge? I can sum it up in one word…success. Just ask Bill Gates.

The producers of this film have just as much right to exploit this angle as anyone else with any other subject matter. Oliver Stone glorified mass-murder in ‘Natural Born Killers.’ Did that make it right? Hell no, it didn’t. Impressionable youths or no…any kid that marches into school toting a gun has a hell of a lot more problems than what’s happening on the big screen.

Beau Ethridge says:

I still am confused on the word “glorified”… we all know what trailers are made for… to expose in a small span of time what the film generally is “getting at”… thus in this context, some kids are pissed off for whatever reason and they plan to get revenge. Is this trailer glorifying? as a Natural Born Killers?

joeslankas says:

One other thing…if any film maker gets scared off by what ‘might’ happen after the movie is released, that’s complete BS as well. That’s big brother, and paranoia, and totally unacceptable.

the old man says:

Everyone censors themselves to some degree unless struck with something like a psychopathic illness or a chemical imbalance. So we as individuals abridge our own freedom. Societies abridge our freedom too. We can’t build here we can’t smoke, curse, protest, etc, etc. Society will also only tolerate so much artistic license. Look here for some material on the matter. http://www.csulb.edu/~jvancamp/freedom3.html
http://dulemba.com/2009/02/senate-nixes-nea-funding.html
http://www.heritage.org/research/budget/BG1110.cfm

Society has been arguing about it for a long, long time. Perhaps they always should. If the issues are made forbidden fruit, then their potency as attractors is increased. If you pick one of these issues and discuss it, at an appropriate time with your children, you reduce that potency. staunch the allure.

Jessi says:

Ken J says:
November 16, 2009 at 8:28 pm
“What a bunch of idiots. People like those Columbine idiots aren’t trying to “teach a lesson.” They are satisfying their own twisted fantacies. If someone wanted to “teach them a lesson” he would go in front of class one day and blow his own brains out.”

yeah i know you are talking about jeremy there
but that really happened, and the thing the kid said before he blue his brains out was “i got what i was looking for”
…. if a movie is made about this kid it will be over glorified.

me says:

>.< this movie looks really good and the only link i see to columbine is the poster
bullying is an every day thing its not like those kids of columbine are the ONLY ONES
besides that these kids did it the smart way, making the bullies go some where that is closed off and no one will know for a 'party' then torture them.
at least they wont get caught for a while
looks like a GREAT sick movie and i cant wait to see it. there are movies out there people love and people hate, does any one remember clockwork orange? all the rapes and violence … are you going to bash that work of art to? cause that was a commentary on violence in Britain.

Beau Ethridge says:

the definition of glorify is “to represent as admirable”… Thus, I would have to disagree with you in this context. I think interpretation is the real argument here. We all have different ones… and ultimately that is what makes all of these discussions interesting… thankyou.

FarEEK says:

I appreciate the fact that despite what we may feel is appropriate, this film looks as if it has taken on the task of testing that feeling.

Seriously says:

It’s a fictional movie dipicting violence. Wow what else is new? Anyway this film looks creepy and disturbing what a movie is supposed to do. And so what about the killer’s motive did I Know What You Did Last Summer make you feel bad for the fisherman when the kids ran him over. Or what about Alien were you supposed to feel sorry for the alien because he was alone on his big, lonely planet. Sorry not happening. First and LAST post on this site.

ogb says:

Seriously

lol seriously? so the fact that it’s fictional makes it okay right? So if someone made a movie about raping and killing a bunch of random women, that’d be okay?

You’re okay with this because it doesn’t directly affect you. What about all the ppl that were directly affected by the school shooting strategies? There’s a lot btw.

Draw a line, take a stance, pick a side. Sometimes you have to. The “who cares”, “it’s art” attitude gives freedom to some talented ppl and a lot of sick and messed up people.

the old man says:

Seriously says: ” First and LAST post on this site.”

LOL… I’d say only post ever read too.

What was with the “Alien” reference? The Alien was a kill or be killed contest, not I’m going to kill the Alien because it gave me a wedgie battle. Drive-by troll…

bidnaman says:

any date on the video game?

@me

No one is bashing A Clockwork Orange, which was a GREAT commentary on violence and actually supported what we are saying in this article about the possibility of media having the capability of influencing/conditioning people.

BTW, for you folks think that what we see and hear has zero influence on us, I guess advertisers are wasting BILLIONS of dollars a year and porn has NEVER caused damage to a marriage or relationship.

Vic

Kool Shiek says:

love the trailer! bring on the pain!

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