CGI has become a crutch, and crass & camp are a lowest common denominator to attract the repeat-ticket junior high crowd.

Graham, I was impressed (and shaken) with the limited robotics of The Borg in “Q Who?” 20 years ago. But then, I cared about those characters.

I don’t see why the kid issue needs to be addressed at all. The best way to address it would be would to ignore that whole subplot completely and move on, it would be like saying “sorry, what were we thinking?” to the audience that actually came back for the “sequel”.

And as mentioned, the kid (wonderful actor), will be MUCH older by the time MOS comes out, and we don’t even know if Bosworth will return as Lois, so they may as well ignore the afformentioned incident if they’re going to have to recast anyway.

I say they should just do like Superman 3 did, bad as it was as a movie, it didn’t mention ANY of the events from Superman 2. It just went right into a new story, didn’t address the whole Lois/Superman affair or whether Lois remembered that Clark was Superman or not, and it didn’t have to. Same should be done with MOS, IMO.

Here’s why the bastard kid subplot is a dumb idea:

First of all, according to the comics, Superman, being kryptonian, is unable to reproduce with an earth person. They’re two different species. It would be like a horse and a donkey doing it.

Secondly, according to the Richard Lester cut of Superman 2, on which Superman Returns is “loosely based”, Superman was DEPOWERED, he was turned into an ordinary man, when he and Lois had their affair, therefore Jason should/would not have ANY superpowers.

Thirdly, the whole idea of Superman having an affair with Lois and then making her forget it ever happened is RIDICULOUS and COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER. What, he has sex with her, makes her forget about it, leaves, comes back, finds out she had a kid that throws pianos and then doesn’t say anything about it?? WTF? How could he even approach her about that anyway? She’d be like “when did you and I…?” and how bad would Superman look? It’s almost like rape if you think about it. Can you see this winning a pulitzer prize: “Superman scews people and then brain washes them, it could happen to YOU by Lois Lane”? The whole idea is ridiculous, and whoever concieved it needs to be FIRED or have their head examined.

That’s why the best thing to do short of a reboot would be to just MOVE ON and ignore that BS. I honestly feel sorry for Routh, I think he deserves a second chance, it wasn’t his fault the script had that crap in it. He was the best thing about SR, IMHO. If they ignore those events and move on with more action and Routh then they’ll have one helluva movie.

That’s why I don’t like ____ vs. Superman. He’s too powerful for any foe. Well, Smallville depicts a Bizarro worthy enough for full out challenge. How exciting is a story going to be, when the hero can fly around the world and turn back time, in the biggest stinkiest Reset Button ever?

Regarding the Fantastic Four, since they got their train wreck out of the way in the first movie, maybe a third will not be so bad.

790, I am not sure what spoiler you referred to. Just curious.

Damm it

TMOS will take place within a short time-table after RETURNS (i.e. weeks or months later). More likely than none, the kid will be just too big to effectively play a 5-year old.

Jamie

That sounds like something the Studio hacks would insist on.

KEL makes more sense on this issue than a room full of (high paid) Studio execs.
And there in lies the problem. The Studios allways mess up films like these…
If they had more talented people with Passion for these characters like KEL we would be talking about how kick ass the last film was and how can they possibly top the next.
Instead were musing over our favorite superhero films and how bad they suck compaired to the next guy…
How wonderfull.

On that Comicbook at the top: Superman vs Spider-man was that another way to get Lex in the story or were they out of ideas that week?
Neat cover no substance.

Same thing with the stupid Superman vs Batman series or my favorite (for being lameass) RoboCop vs Terminator.
No I’m not making that up…

I’m for everything KEL said!!!!!

That sounds like something the Studio hacks would insist on.

KEL makes more sense on this issue than a room full of (high paid) Studio execs.
And there in lies the problem. The Studios allways mess up films like these…
If they had more talented people with Passion for these characters like KEL we would be talking about how kick ass the last film was and how can they possibly top the next.
Instead were musing over our favorite superhero films and how bad they suck compaired to the next guy…
How wonderfull.

On that Comicbook at the top: Superman vs Spider-man was that another way to get Lex in the story or were they out of ideas that week?
Neat cover no substance.

Same thing with the stupid Superman vs Batman series or my favorite (for being lameass) RoboCop vs Terminator.
No I’m not making that up…

I’m for everything KEL said!!!!!

That’s so funny. Superheroes can’t be omnipotent. And speaking of potent LOL Kel:
{{I don’t have anything against the young actor or bastard children in general}}

Also, no more floating head of Marlon Brando as Jor El. He’s dead guys, lets move on. Using a dead actor for a character only limits the story telling.

And Jamie, I don’t think they should do a total reboot, I think they should just ignore the bastard kid subplot as tho it never happened.

Now…did WB consider re-booting the SUPERMAN franchise? Yes, but those plans went out the window when they (along with Legendary Pictures) inked a new deal with Singer to produce/direct TMOS.

Jamie