The Epic Superhero Movie Showdown of Summer 2010

Published 6 years ago by , Updated July 18th, 2013 at 9:36 am,

superman vs spider man The Epic Superhero Movie Showdown of Summer 2010Yes, I know that 2010 is still two years off, but that summer already has a few blockbuster tentpoles lined up (i.e. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, Shrek Goes Fourth and Toy Story 3). And things could get pretty heated between the two comic-book tentpoles currently aiming for that summer as well: Sony’s Spider-Man 4 and Warner Brothers’ Superman: The Man of Steel.

In the case of Webhead, it’s still a mystery as to whether or not Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi return. But my shrinking gut (thanks to my diet) says they’re done. To be fair, I could see Raimi having some involvement (i.e. an “executive producer” title isn’t out of the question). However, Maguire showing back up sounds unlikely at this point. I don’t see Sony forking over the kind of paycheck he’ll demand unless he agrees to another multi-film deal and that’s what makes it even more unlikely.

So… an unknown actor could be the way to go. But I’m betting that supporting players like J.K. Simmons, Rosemary Harris and Dylan Baker will definitely return (i.e. cheap and for the sake of the movie franchise’s continuty!)


Yes, Spider-Man 3 made $900 million. But there was a lot of hatred and/or disappointment coming out of the theater from most film-goers. God knows I was one of them.

So whoever ends up helming Spider-Man 4 better seriously listen to the audience and deliver the goods. Vic said it best:

“We’ve seen ‘Peter goes through a change in his life’ for three films now. It wouldn’t hurt if this installment was more geared towards ‘A day in the life of our friendly-neighborhood Spider-Man!”

Meanwhile, Warner Brothers will give Bryan Singer’s Superman series another shot with the sequel: Man of Steel. Despite not living up to the studio’s box-office expectations, Superman Returns still managed to churn out $400 million even with the complaints of few action sequences, lack of a super-villain and heavy melodrama. And then there’s the issue of what to do with Supes and Lois’ 5 year-old kid (who will likely be recast being that the actor will probably be too old).

Singer and Warner Brothers have sworn up and down they’ll deliver an action-packed, no holds barred Superman sequel. Let’s see that they do.

If Man of Steel doesn’t match up to snuff at the box-office, Brandon Routh becomes the Timothy Dalton of Superman (a good or bad thing depending on how you see it!)

It’s also safe to assume that either Spider-Man 4 or Superman: The Man of Steel will likely aim for the July 4th weekend. Having said all of that, this is just speculation on the part of one film nerd. Both films are in the early scripting stages, and things can change.

Regardless, this should be one interesting face-off come Summer 2010.

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  1. 2010 seems as far away as May 2nd. …sigh…

    Honestly, neither Spiderman4 or Man of Steel appeal to me right now. I was equally let down by both of their predecessors. Saw Spiderman3 in the theater and never bothered to get it on DVD. Got Superman Returns on DVD and promptly wished it would return itself to the store. Too much mellow-drama (intentional spelling) in both of them. Reading about them in the same post makes me queasy… :*

    Seriously, between the two of them I would expect Man of Steel to do way better. Singer had an excellent vision but the final product was weighed down by the its-the-first-one-in-years nostalgia trip.

    Spiderman3 should not have been made. Goes to prove that comic book franchises only have a 2 movie life span.

  2. Well at least Singer KNOWS the last one was too mushy and didn’t have enough action.

    If they would leave Lex Luthor out of it and actually select a villain at Superman’s strength level (like they’re doing for the new Hulk movie) then it might stand a chance at being decent.

    Spiderman’s gotten to morose for my taste. Where’s the damned fun of the first half of the first one?

    Vic

  3. I learned a new word today! In case anyone else wondered:

    Tentpole: A major motion picture, generally released in the summer or Christmas season, which is the primary focus of a studio’s marketing attention. The term comes from this analogy: If the tentpole fails, everything will collapse around it.
    johnaugust.com/glossary
    :-)

  4. I have to agree with Zipper for the most part. It DOES seem as though most comic franchises put out 2 good movies and then try to do WAY too much with the third instead of just continuing the storyline. The first 2 X-Men movies were phenomenal and the 3rd had nice eye candy but storywise was weak. Superman 1 & 2 were 2 of the best comic book movies ever made, but even the studio has disavowed knowledge of those horrible sequels (Richard Pryor in a Supes movie, REALLY?). As for Batman, the only decent ones of the originals were the ones with Keaton as Batman. Spidey’s already been discussed…
    So based on that track record, IF there is a Fantastic Four 3, it is going to be a train wreck. The FF series can be saved ONLY if they’re part of an Avengers movie.

    With all that being said, I have hope for Singer and Man of Steel. I thought he did a GREAT job with the first 2 X-Men films and if he goes crazy like he did in X2, we’re in for one helluva Superman film!!! Too bad he couldn’t direct Spidey 4, too…maybe Jon Jon Favreau could re-boot Spidey! :)

    Oh yeah, one more thing. I love that comic cover at the top of the article. I never saw that comic, but c’mon! Unless Spidey’s webs were made of kryptonite, Supes would smash Spidey into bug juice!!!

  5. I am looking forward to these movies. Because the last few comic-book sequels were disappointments, I believe that the sequel “model” will change by 2010 and it will be more action focused. There is only so much character development you can do in a movie series :-)

  6. I think you must have character development otherwise the audience won’t give a damn about the characters (cough “Jumper” cough “10,000 BC” cough).

    But you can also have too much of it IMHO, which can kill an action movie, as it did with all the God-awful MJ/Peter stuff especially in the third Spidey film.

    Vic

  7. I thought the Fantastic Four films were pretty weak and what was with that crappy version of Galactus?
    I don’t see how a 3rd film could be any worse. Actually with the droll humor Surfer has maybe we won’t get so much slap-stick from the Thing and Torch. (Those two are like a bad Abbott and Costello).

    Andy, next time throw up some spolier warnings eh?
    Kryptonite webbing that’s awesome.

  8. I wouldn’t say that Ron.

    I was kinda surprised they didn’t cover Peters grief over loosing his scooter for the 3rd time in Spider-Man 3. They could start the next film out with buying yet another scooter…maybe MJ could walk by and they could have a similar conversation about love and what not… ?

  9. Yea Vic they could have totally cut about 15 min+ (Mary Jane) in each of the films and it would have been alot better.
    One thing that kinda annoyed me was why did Parker allways seem to have dinner with his enemies ??

  10. If its Spiderman 4 and Superman: Man of Steel show up the same weekend. I’m going to see Superman. UNLESS…. Spiderman 4 involves Mary Jane getting shot in the face within the first 3 minutes. Then if that happens I’ll go and see Spiderman…

    Actually I’d probably see Superman either way, because I’m kinda getting sick of Spiderman. Spiderman 3 really ruined it for me which is too bad.

  11. I really enjoyed Superman Returns. I thought that it was a good continuation of the franchise, considering that we live in a world of remakes and reboots. In fact his sequel was one of the most original ideas Hollywood has had in a long time!

    A bit more action and Singer will have nailed it.

    Niall

  12. ^Agreed, Niall!

    If we’re talking box-office here, then both SPIDER-MAN 4 and SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL will do solid business (i.e. $250-300 million+). No doubt about that.

    But the winner between them will be determined through their ad campaigns and word-of-mouth after the subsequent opening weekend(s).

    An action-filled SUPERMAN sequel could easily do $300 million domestically. On the other hand, SPIDER-MAN is going to have to win back its audiences with a really good sequel; more so than SUPES.

    Unless, Sony has MAJOR plans in store for Webhead, my gut says TMOS dominates.

    Jamie

  13. “UNLESS…. Spiderman 4 involves Mary Jane getting shot in the face within the first 3 minutes. Then if that happens I’ll go and see Spiderman…”

    Oh man! ROFLMAO!!! :-D

    And Niall, sorry, but “Superman Returns” is probably one of the few movies where we’ll disagree…

    I gave it as high of a rating as I did for three reasons:

    1. IMAX

    2. 3D

    3. Pent up anticipation for finally getting another Superman movie.

    I retrospect I would have given it a much lower rating.

    Vic

  14. In all fairness guys, Hollywood has lost it’s sense of creativity. I love superhero movies (especially with the VFX we can create now). Tell me, though, there isn’t a writer out there with an original idea? Where’s the next Lucas?! Where’s the next epic?! Of course, if the public accepts mediocrity with sequels and remakes, then I guess that’s what we’ll see for awhile.

  15. I think Singer is hugely overated. Usual Suspects was a great movie, but damn, everything of his since has been lackluster at best. X1 and X2 get alot of love on the net and with comic fans, but I really don’t undertand why. Thy weren’t that good. Alot of pontificating,powered down superheroes, and Wolverine getting slapped around at every turn. X3 actually had decent action for a change and took some major risks storywise. While it was no masterpiece, it was more than serviceable. Superman Returns was just weak. It looked nice, but had no real substance or even a half decent plot. Lex as a real estate tycoon again? Then again, I don’t think Singer can be blamed entirely for the lukewarm results of the flick. Superman just may not stand out as a character as much as he used to. There are newer characters that may just entertain people more than the age old Superman character. Captain america, Iron man, and the Green Lantern all come to mind.

  16. My hopes for the new Superman movie:

    Don’t reboot completely with a new origin, just ignore the events of SR and move on, tell another story with NO continuation of SR, like the James Bond movies.

    No more bastard kid.

    No more Jesus analogies.

    No more Luthor as the main baddie.

    No more of this Superman the “wimp” who gets his ass kicked by everyone “I like pink very much” crap. I want to see Superman cut loose and fight something! I want to see Routh play the Justice League Unlimited style Superman. Tough Superman, like the comix.

    And no more continuation of other Superman series.

    Much more ACTION!!!

    A villain we haven’t seen before (Brainiac!!!).

    I want Routh to return as Superman, he was the best thing about SR and has a lot of potential, IMO.

    I want them to use the Williams/Ottman Superman score again.

    And I’d prefer that they used the costume from SR.

    ^That’s my hopes for the new Superman movie. And if Singer can’t deliver that, then get rid of him. :-)

  17. For those interested, the comic above (Superman vs. Spider-Man) had Superman being bombarded with a kryptonite beam from Lex. Before Lex hit him with the beam, Supes and Spidey were fighting because of the bad press that Spidey gets. While Spidey was pounding on Supes to no avail, Supes decides to hit back but realized he would kill Spidey with one blow and drew his fist back. Unfortunately, the wind from his blow hit Spidey into a building. Eventually, the two decide to call a truce and bring Lex to justice.

    While I thought the action sequences in Spidey 3 and Supes Returns was great, there weren’t enought to make them great action films. As many of you said, too much mellodrama. I think they should get the guy who directed Shoot Em’ Up to do both films.

    Also as T. mentioned, there are many other superheroes that can be put on the silver screen. They are working on Shazam, Thor, Green Lantern, and others, so I say let Supes, Spidey, and Batman rest for a while.

  18. Guys- I just don’t get Spider-Man. The films just lack so much, and don’t even get me started on how bad the CGI is!!!

    I have to agree on Superman- Kill Super-Bastard and the next film will fly high.

    Niall

  19. One thing I can assure you of; THE MAN OF STEEL will NOT be a re-boot like some have suggested. My understanding is that Singer & Co. plan to jump right into the plot/action like they did for X2: X-MEN UNITED (i.e. no recaps!)

    Now…did WB consider re-booting the SUPERMAN franchise? Yes, but those plans went out the window when they (along with Legendary Pictures) inked a new deal with Singer to produce/direct TMOS.

    Jamie

  20. Guys, I don’t have anything against the young actor or bastard children in general, I just think that the idea of giving Superman a bastard kid SUCKS. What were they thinking anyway??? Did Jon Peters come up with that?? It is just such of a HORRIBLE idea.

    Also, no more floating head of Marlon Brando as Jor El. He’s dead guys, lets move on. Using a dead actor for a character only limits the story telling.

    And Jamie, I don’t think they should do a total reboot, I think they should just ignore the bastard kid subplot as tho it never happened.

  21. BTW, I have that comic. And Superman was weakened severely right before the fight by a K ray. We all know Spidey doesn’t stand a chance against Superman in a fight anyway so it was only fair……

  22. Kahless wrote:
    {{Supes decides to hit back but realized he would kill Spidey with one blow and drew his fist back. Unfortunately, the wind from his blow hit Spidey into a building.}}

    That’s so funny. Superheroes can’t be omnipotent. And speaking of potent LOL Kel:
    {{I don’t have anything against the young actor or bastard children in general}}

  23. I think they put Superboy in the last film to start a new character that would interact with Superman in the future. (Old formula) echem” Indiana Jones eceehm ” not that it won’t work,, eecchum. Yeah right ecchemm. ”

    That sounds like something the Studio hacks would insist on.

    KEL makes more sense on this issue than a room full of (high paid) Studio execs.
    And there in lies the problem. The Studios allways mess up films like these…
    If they had more talented people with Passion for these characters like KEL we would be talking about how kick ass the last film was and how can they possibly top the next.
    Instead were musing over our favorite superhero films and how bad they suck compaired to the next guy…
    How wonderfull.

    On that Comicbook at the top: Superman vs Spider-man was that another way to get Lex in the story or were they out of ideas that week?
    Neat cover no substance.

    Same thing with the stupid Superman vs Batman series or my favorite (for being lameass) RoboCop vs Terminator.
    No I’m not making that up…

    I’m for everything KEL said!!!!!

  24. They’re going to have to address the kid. No way around it. Regardless of how it’s resolved, the child-actor from SUPERMAN RETURNS will probably get re-cast if I was betting man.

    TMOS will take place within a short time-table after RETURNS (i.e. weeks or months later). More likely than none, the kid will be just too big to effectively play a 5-year old.

    Jamie

  25. I think they put Superboy in the last film to start a new character that would interact with Superman in the future. (Old formula) echem” Indiana Jones eceehm ” not that it won’t work,, eecchum. Yeah right ecchemm. ”

    That sounds like something the Studio hacks would insist on.

    KEL makes more sense on this issue than a room full of (high paid) Studio execs.
    And there in lies the problem. The Studios allways mess up films like these…
    If they had more talented people with Passion for these characters like KEL we would be talking about how kick ass the last film was and how can they possibly top the next.
    Instead were musing over our favorite superhero films and how bad they suck compaired to the next guy…
    How wonderfull.

    On that Comicbook at the top: Superman vs Spider-man was that another way to get Lex in the story or were they out of ideas that week?
    Neat cover no substance.

    Same thing with the stupid Superman vs Batman series or my favorite (for being lameass) RoboCop vs Terminator.
    No I’m not making that up…

    I’m for everything KEL said!!!!!

  26. Sorry for that double post.
    I’m having blackberry issues.

  27. Put the kid in daycare.
    Problem sovled.

  28. Put the kid in daycare.
    Problem solved.

    Damm it

  29. Andy,
    That Spidey-Superman was an oversize publication (maybe 14″ x 10″?), I think they called them Treasury Editions. They had Marvel-DC battles (which always ended in team-ups, if memory serves). I think there was Superman vs. Hulk, can’t remember the others.

    That’s why I don’t like ____ vs. Superman. He’s too powerful for any foe. Well, Smallville depicts a Bizarro worthy enough for full out challenge. How exciting is a story going to be, when the hero can fly around the world and turn back time, in the biggest stinkiest Reset Button ever?

    Regarding the Fantastic Four, since they got their train wreck out of the way in the first movie, maybe a third will not be so bad.

    790, I am not sure what spoiler you referred to. Just curious.

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