Robert Downey Jr. & Jon Favreau Talk ‘The Avengers’ & ‘Iron Man 3′

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iron man 3 Robert Downey Jr. & Jon Favreau Talk The Avengers & Iron Man 3

Jon Favreau appeared at the Hero Complex Film Festival on Sunday for a Q&A session after a screening of Iron Man and Iron Man 2. As he reminisced about the lighting in a bottle quality of the first film, he was joined on stage by a surprise guest – Tony Stark himself, Robert Downey Jr.

Taking a break from the New Mexico set of The Avengers, Downey Jr. weighed in on how shooting with the other giants in the Marvel movie universe is going so far. He and Favreau also discussed Shane Black inheriting directorial duties on Iron Man 3 – and the inevitable challenges that lay ahead of him.

Last year, Favreau rather diplomatically asserted that the reason he opted out of directing Iron Man 3 was that he had chosen to make Magic Kingdom for Disney instead. Still, rumors persist that tensions ran high between Favreau and Marvel Studios during the production of Iron Man 2 – and that their bruised relationship was a significant factor in Favreau’s decision to jump ship.

Even after Black was chosen as his replacement, Favreau indicated that he was still willing to reprise his role as Tony Stark’s bodyguard Happy Hogan in Iron Man 3. He re-iterated this again on Sunday, but joked that his involvement is contingent on a particular list of demands (thanks to /Film for the transcript):

Favreau: If The Freak isn’t in it, I’m not doing it. If Happy Hogan doesn’t turn into The Freak, I’m not doing it. Here’s what happens to Happy Hogan, he marries Pepper Potts-

Downey Jr: Wait a minute, you want both?

Favreau: I want a love scene with Pepper Potts with my shirt on and I want to transform into The Freak.

All kidding aside, Favreau admits that he’s tremendously supportive of Black – and that in addition to playing a supporting role in front of the camera, he might be playing one behind the scenes as well. Downey Jr. revealed that he and Favreau consulted Black for some ideas during pre-production on one of the earlier films – and now that Black is calling the shots, he’s determined to keep Favreau in the fold:

The negotiations have begun and so far I’m in agreement on every point. Well Shane, interestingly enough, there was a point when Jon and I were stuck on an idea [with a previous film]. We were just in an exploratory phase. So I said, ‘We should talk to Shane.’ And I was like, ‘Shane, we can’t really pay.’ And he was like, ‘Bring me some salmon and some blueberries.’ And we went to Yoda’s house in Miracle Mile and it wound up coming in handy, particularly for a couple scenes. So what I can say about this kind of circle of life thing is Shane, as he’s getting into the process [to direct Iron Man 3] and getting his sea legs and stuff, he goes, ‘When can we talk to Jon?’ So there’s going to be this kind of conglomerate of efforts.

jon favreau and robert downey jr Robert Downey Jr. & Jon Favreau Talk The Avengers & Iron Man 3

Jon Favreau and Robert Downey Jr. on the set of 'Iron Man 2'.

Favreau is excited to see what Black brings to the franchise, but he also recognizes one of the major challenge that Iron Man 3 faces – telling a solo Tony Stark story after audiences have seen the character’s epic team-up with Captain America, The Hulk, and Thor in The Avengers:

I love the franchise and I’m a big fan of Shane’s as well so hopefully I can be helpful because I want to see this thing grow and transform. And actually, when it finally landed on Shane, it was like, ‘All right, that’s gonna be something interesting.’ Especially because it’s gonna be so difficult for whoever does that one because although it’s Iron Man 3, the whole Avengers thing…I guess in comics you can say that it’s an individual storyline and you can break it off into a group. But in movies, it’s hard not to take into consideration what just happened. What are you gonna say? ‘They all just lost their cell phones and you can’t get help?’ So it’s going to take a lot of ingenuity to make it make sense to a mainstream film audience as well as a comic book audience.

Black is co-writing Iron Man 3‘s script with Drew Pearce and a few of his previous comments suggest that rather than attempt to one-up The Avengers, his film will instead boast a noticeably different tone and approach. The intention is to have Stark face off against “real world villains” in a story that’s evocative of a Tom Clancy thriller. So while Favreau makes a good point, it seems like everyone is in agreement that if anyone can pull this off, it’s Shane Black.

The Avengers

Speaking of The Avengers, Downey Jr. got surprisingly candid about his initial skepticism towards the project – an attitude that evidently prevailed even as cameras started rolling. He admits that there was a point where he feared that the film was overstuffed and derivative, but that director Joss Whedon somehow managed to instill order amidst all that chaos:

Well, I hate everybody. [Audience laughs] I’m not talking about the cast, I’m not talking about Joss. What I mean is I tend to look at a scene and say ‘This is absolutely impossible, we can’t shoot this, it’s horrible. I can tell you 10 other movies its been in, I refuse.’ I usually start off the morning by refusing to do what I’ve signed on to do. So I brought that attitude, happily. I just thought ‘How are you gonna put all of us clowns together? He’s wearing a suit, he’s all jacked up, he’s so and so and poor Mark Ruffalo, he’s gonna out do us’. And we’re about six weeks in and I have to say Joss Whedon is nailing it. He’s so smart and so good. And it’s gonna be great. I can’t believe I just said it, I never could’ve believed this but it’s gonna be great.

Someone is bound to point out that actors will very rarely criticize a film they’re still in the middle of making, but Downey Jr.’s response seemed more genuine than a go-to positive comment. Then again, he once called Due Date the second greatest movie he’d ever made – so I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see.

Iron Man 3 is already shaping up to be a unique and interesting addition to the series and the fact that Black wants Favreau involved (even if it’s just in a minor consulting capacity) indicates that he respects the franchise’s origins and reaffirms that Marvel probably made the right choice bringing him on board.

The Avengers hits theaters May 4, 2012 and Iron Man 3 is currently scheduled for release May 3rd, 2013.

Source: /Film.

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  1. still think a JL movie would be so much more epic.

    • WRONG.

    • Correct.

      • Sorry…That should be CORRECT.

        :)

        • Do you mean I’m correct or do you think “KanTstandYa” is correct?

          • KanTstandYa is CORRECT

            • Bzzzt. Incorrect. But thanks for playing.

              • Too bad a JL movie won’t have Bale, Havill, or Reynolds reprising their roles. And it definitely won’t be canon with what Nolan, Zack, or whatever the hell DC is doing with the green lantern franchise. DC is acting stupid and the only way for them to correct themselves is to revamp their comic series and hopefully get more fans over to DC and take them on a journey with the JL movie.

                But, other than that, Marvel is where it’s at in terms of making $$$ at the movies and being smart by having the actors all go into one HUGE movie.

          • Definitely, KanTstandYa is correct.

            • Huh… well, you’re wrong as well ;).

              • Justice League Moive would be alot more epic if they used all the original actors. But since Marvel is using the originals (except hulk) its gonna take the crown. I cant even believe its being made!

    • Survey says, Brrrrpt “X”.

    • DC’s JLC more epic? I just don’t see it.

    • Well…..considering that one of the two is actually IN production, while the other is trapped in development hell there really isn’t much to discuss. Kind of hard for something to be “epic” when it doesn’t even exist ;)

      • Exactly.

        • Touche’ JLA’ers. But let’s not get into a back and forth game here. But the Avengers are gonna rock this.

    • negative.. they’re best route to take would be the way marvel’s been doing it for the avengers (but introduce the characters and tie them in all together the correct way) and for them to do that, it’d take years. plus, not as many fans attentions are grabbed towards someone like the flash as they are to .. the hulk for example. marvel just carries more familiar names. plus, with everything Warner Bros has going on with The lantern, superman and batman films.. it’s best that they just stay occupied with that at the time. something great has been built around batman and his entire universe that nolan has created.. so it’d be stupid to tarnish that. at least for now. maybe sometime in the future it could be a smart idea.

    • sorry but you are wrong not one of the actors who plays the heros right now are going to be in it new batman new superman says to me new sucks

    • Does it matter? I think both will be epic, how’s that?

      6 Avengers + 7 JL’ers + millions of dollars = tons of EPIC!!!!

      Bring them both on and Comic Book fans rejoice! Wait, did we joice in the first place? Well, if not, then Comic Book fans JOICE!!!

    • dude they haven’t even been able to make a decent Superman movie for over twenty years, never mind an entire team of super heroes plus Supes

  2. with favreau in the mix I hope we get the mandrin

    • It would be difficult to do the Mandrin without all the politically correct types yelling racial stereotype and the movie being banned in China or something.

      • Who cares? The Chinese are #1 at pirating movies anyway… who cares if they are “offended”?

        People shouldn’t NOT make movies just because they are scared that someone will get “offended”. What’s so wrong with being “offended” anyway? It’s better than being shot in the foot! People now a-days are way too touchy.

        • Movies are made to make money, which is why film makers, do not, want to offend potential viewers.

          • Fair point…

  3. Encouraging to hear Robert Downey excited and optimistic about the filming of the Avengers, and he’s absolute right…managing all those ‘egos’ on the same stage is a tough task and if anyone could pull it off its whedon, so kudos to Josh. Here’s to hoping for a good solid Avengers film next year!

  4. Also hoping for the Mandarin (granted – it will be difficult to pull of). I am just so glad that Favreau still has some pull… I mean he shaped this movie and it wouldn’t be right if he just disappears from the franchise.

    As for the Avengers: I am so glad that the cast have only good things to say about the production (I know most of them are probably sugar coting it but I’ pretty sure RDJ wouldn’t lie about it.)

    P.S. @screenrant: Due Date was awesome! Although… I don’t think it was the second best movie RDJ was in: the first would be Iron Man (obviously) and the second would be Sherlock Holmes (he was just great in that), third best was Tropic Thunder (no one else could pull off what he managed to do) and in fourth place IM2 (even though the movie wasn’t that good RDJ still did an awesome job)… I guess Due Date was RDJ’s worst work from recent times (the movie was still epic anyway).

    • “IM2 (even though the movie wasn’t that good”

      I disagree. Accept for the lame final battle with “Crimson”, I liked IM2 a lot.

      • It was a nice movie for the fans (such as myself) but IMO I think the general public didn’t get it… there were too many easter eggs and references to the MCU. From a fanboy point of view I would give IM2 4 and a half out of 5, but from a critical point of view only 3 and a half.

        • 3 and a half is not exactly bad.

          • Okay… 3 out of 5

            • What. So I say 3 and a half isn’t bad and you change your score? Kinda pathetic, IMO.

              • Avenger, how old are you? 13?

                • 16… actually B)

                  But like I said… my inner FANBOY is affecting my score… when it comes to these types of movies I can’t give a score less than 3 (with the exception of X-men and Spider-Man)

                  Also… in my book 3 and a half is a bad score (speaking as a perfectionist).

  5. I does need to show waaaay more firepower than we’ve seen in the past. 4 to 5 fights would be just about right…. – Stark

    • And you need to get working on that Hulkbusting armor pronto. And why did you take credit for creating Vibranium when it was already in Wakanda? :-D

  6. It is time for Marvel to face it’s biggest challenge yet: bringing 5 major superheroes in one film called The Avengers if they manage to do it right then they maybe better than DC Comics.

    I hope The Avengers will be great because it’s fan’s dream for this team up to happen.

    • Thanks for stating the obvious ;)

      • It is Monday. 8-)

  7. How can a JL movie be better when they are going to cast all new actors as the superheros? Lol can you say LAME

    • Quality is still the standard…the actors chosen will be secondary if the script and story and production are excellent…all of which DC and WB can EASILY do.

      Nice try…thank you for playing. :)

    • I second that. Justice League is a better superhero team than The Avenegers but the way warner bros. have been handling it makes me very pesimistic sbout the movie. Marvel has got the perfect set up on how a superhero team should assemble with the crossovers. I believe Justice League would be a fail with a whole new cast of actors that is just stupid and unimaginative,creating a second universe of hereos.

      • Just because a Justice League film would not be restricted by any continuity concerns of so many individual hero films (as some, for example, have complained about IM2 and, to a lesser extent, “Thor”) I think a new cast unique to a Justice League series could work very effectively.

        The simple facts are that no one is 100% certain a JL film will be produced any time soon, and NO ONE is 100% certain that “The Avengers” will succeed.

        A JL film could come out in two or three years OR six or seven years…or never. “The Avengers” could become an epic classic of modern cinema, OR it could bomb at the depths of “Ishtar”.

        For my part, I hope “Avengers” does well, because I enjoy comic book movies. By the same token, I hope A JL film is made and also succeeds, whether with a new cast OR with audience-tested veterans…both being viable options.

  8. As for Favs … I loved his work on IM1, but honestly, I don’t believe he was overly instrumental in Iron Man’s success. The plot was pretty generic, the dialogue of the last scene was wincingly corny.

    I’m not terribly upset to see another director on set. I’m glad they consult, because I think Favs wants IM to continue … but I don’t think he needs to remain at the helm.

    • I strongly disagree that Favs wasn’t overly instrumental in Iron Man’s success. For one thing, if it hadn’t been Favreau’s determination and insistence, Robert Downey Jr. would NEVER have been Iron Man. Marvel didn’t want him. They wanted somebody younger.

      I believe that Jon Favreau’s genuine enthusiasm about the Iron Man comics helped tremendously.

      Favreau’s weaknesses as a director probably did get exposed in Iron Man 2, in some part exacerbated by the forced crossover with Avengers, but he was still “overly instrumental” in Iron Man’s success.

      • Agreed.

      • @Phil: you are one smart cookie ;)

      • Phil,

        I think the aspect of getting RDJ was great, but it was Shane Black who recommended him to Favs (if I recall correctly).

        I think his enthusiasm was great, but he didn’t really give us a “canon” Tony Stark. He allowed RDJ to be a zany billionaire with the name Stark. Not saying the formula didn’t work, it worked wonderfully, but it wasn’t truly anything from adherence to the source material.

        He also wouldn’t compromise on the suit design.

        At the end of the day, I am talking about his success as a director. He did very little to enhance the story and simply allowed RDJ to ad lib.

        But, I agree, the movie – with that script – would have struggled mightily with the wrong person.

        I think he was a great person for the film. Not a great director. He’ll be perfect in the backup role.

        • Hm, well, even if he did not give us a “canon” Tony Stark (and that’s debatable – the character IS a bit eccentric and sure loves women – and he WAS based on Howard Hughes in the comics, too) many directors could have refused to let RDJ do his “thing” but Favreau allowed him to be a zany billionaire with the name Stark, in your own words, and that was still a reason for the movie and character’s success. ;)

          All right, if we’re talking about his skills as a director, I’ll admit it fell a little short in IM2, but it still worked in the first movie, and thus Iron Man became widely known to the public.

  9. I like the part where he says IM3 after Avengers how will it work.Shared universe in my opinion are for comics.

  10. Real world villains? IM 1 & 2 used real world villains, except that they had super-powered armor. Perhaps if they remove the mysticism from Mandarin and the rings are primarily technological advancements. After dealing with Loki and Skrulls in Avengers, Mandarin certainly seems like a “real world villain”.

    I like the “China rising as an industrial superpower” angle. Regarding Mandarin, with good writing it doesn’t have to be offensive to anyone… including the chinese. The Mandarin’s greed and lust for power is unmatched, and he’d be a danger to all, even the Chinese. Iron Man could save China from that madman who would reap all the orient’s wealth and resources for his own gain. The Mandarin, using new super-technology, could even try to lead China into a war with the U.S.A.!

    • I think that angle has legs Pitt Man. I hope they do some exploring at the very least. Their’s got to be way to bring Mandarin to the screen…

    • Does anyone watch “Iron Man Armored Adventures” The Mandarin in that series is largely technologically based as opposed to mysticism, he even has a ring which gives him a suit of armor.

      The problem with Iron Man is he has too many disposable villains in his rougue gallery, which lack development and are not a real challenge. The whiplash/crimson hybrid was kind of weak, especially against ironman AND war machine.
      IMO The Mandarin represents the only real threat…. Unless thye want to use AIM, but could MODOK really work on screen?

    • From what I understand of the rings’ origins, they ARE technological,not mystical. I believe Mandarin found a crashed starship and taught himself to manipulate the tech, condensing much of it into the rings.

  11. my picks on who to play the mandrin if he is the villain is either chow yun-fat or choi min-sik even though min-sik is south korean

    • chow yun fat? you MUST be joking

      • no I’am not joking chow yun fat is a great asian actor look at the Killer,Hard boiled,and Crouching Tiger,Hidden dragon.Ken watanabe would be a great choice for the mandarin also.

  12. I’ve got big hopes for these films. Besides Spidey, Iron Man’s my Favorite Superhero. And he’s got such an awesome, gifted, charismatic actor, it’s crazy. Hopefully, there’s a Comic Con panel next month, since I’m going.

  13. I am reading a lot of JLA vs Avengers comments up there and truth be known I want to see both films made and multiple sequels..bottom line for me..I collect and read both Marvel & DC comics and have for 35 years..to be honest I think if you look at the characters on both ORIGINAL teams then DC beats Marvel hands down

    Superman
    Batman
    Flash
    Green Lantern
    Wonder Woman
    Aquaman
    The Martian Manhunter

    vs

    Captain America
    Thor
    Hulk
    Giantman
    Wasp
    Iron Man

    • ibid

      nuff said :)

      • Since I am a Marvel comics guy (or at least was when I collected) I tend to lean towards them. However, with those two lineups fighting each other Marvel would be toast. Hulk would be last man standing and Green Lantern could just take him into space and leave him there.

        • But that’s also a problem DC will face in the JLA movie. Who in creation can fight that team and stand a chance? An alien race possible, but if Avengers goes that route is it feasible for them to follow suit? No likely. Should be interesting.

          • Thor with some Kryptonite would destro JLA all by himself.

            • No…He’d temporarily weaken Superman who would retreat and armor himself in lead and jump back into battle. That would not lessen the effectiveness of the others.

              Also, to use your own idea, Batman would acquire the Ultimate Nullifier OR a cosmic cube OR any number of other devices/objects of power and wield it (or make it available for someone else to do so). There is also the vague possibility that Batman is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir.

              :P

              • “Superman who would retreat” – that kinda tells you how lame he is ;)

                THOR SHAN’T EVER RETREAT! HE WILL FIGHT TILL THE END!

                • Looking at that lineup above…..holy crap do I feel bad for Marvel. I hate to say that but geez. Thor and Hulk would do fine, but Giant Man? Wasp? Ugh….no chance against anyone on that DC lineup at all….AT ALL!!! Supes would be the last man standing in my opinion. Say all you want about him, but the guy beats Darkseid, who would wipe the floor with everyone on that Marvel side.

                  Cap vs. Batman would never end. Ever. That has been shown in the marvel vs. DC story. Both sides conceeded that the other could fight their guy perfectly. Its like a Brett Hart vs. Shawn Michaels wrestling match. Blow for blow, counter for counter, until they both just pass out 3 weeks later.

                  Flash could very well be the 2nd to last guy standing in this. I am not a fan of the character whatsoever, but that guy gets the bum wrap when it comes to recognition. He can vibrate through your freaking body if he tries hard enough and rupture your insides.

                  I see the power levels of those guys in this order……

                  Superman
                  Hulk
                  Thor
                  Flash
                  Green Lantern
                  Wonder Woman
                  Martian Manhunter
                  Iron Man
                  Aquaman (he doesnt just talk to fish, just so you know lol)
                  Batman/Captain America
                  Giant Man
                  Wasp

                  This by no means is how they would end up dropping. thats just power levels. How they would drop (In my opinion) would be…..

                  Giant Man
                  Wasp
                  Aquaman
                  Iron Man
                  Batman/Captain America
                  Martian Manhunter
                  (now it gets tough)
                  Wonder Woman
                  Green Lantern
                  Thor
                  Flash
                  Hulk
                  Superman

                  • The thing is… Superman has one giant weakness. Hulk can heal from almost anything and Thor is immortal (grated he can die and isn’t as strong).

                    I think things will be pretty even between these heroes (Giant-Man and Wasp will get their asses handed to them though).

                    Iron Man or Cap vs. Bats: Iron Man might win (doubtful) but Cap will definitely win.
                    But when it comes to Hulk or Thor vs Superman it will be REALLY even.

                    • Superman does indeed have a giant weakness, problem is, the only person in this fight that would have access to that is on his side.

                      Are we giving the teams time to prepare for this battle, or is it a spur of the moment fight? If given time to prepare, then DC wins again, just in a different order ;-)

                      This is why I do not like DC as much as Marvel. Their heroes are too Overpowered. I have stated before my thought on this, so I wont do it again (dont want to get Archaeon all riled up again lol).

                    • One quick note: Batman would not necessarily lose in combat against Captain America. He could, BUT he would be just as likely to beat Cap. Both are practically unmatched hand-to-hand fighters, brilliant strategists AND tacticians, and dedicated & imaginative leaders. Once, I would have said Batman would be the only one of the two to fight dirty, but I strongly suspect that Cap, of late, has learned the benefits of being underhanded from time to time. They would be VERY evenly matched.

                    • Doom3524…

                      No harm, no foul. Yes, I can be rather passionate (sometimes, overzealous) in my responses, but I can also be quite rational. You make a fair point about the DC heros’ power levels, but I simply do not agree that this makes them uninteresting…After all, they have PLENTY of villains who can (and have) matched AND overwhelmed them.

                      :)

                • A strategic retreat is certainly NOT lame; it’s quite smart because it allows Superman (and his teammates) time to reassess the situation and plan accordingly. Staying in the midst of a battle while at a disadvantage IS lame…and stupid. Thor, being an experienced warrior, would eventually come to the same conclusion were he to think about it (Thor tends to be impulsive, but he’s NOT a moron).

                  ;)

                  • Completely disagree. (But whatever…)

                    • TheAvenger…

                      You’re welcome to disagree, but the idea of a strategic retreat is a basic conceptual premise in warfare, from Sun Tzu all the way up to modern U.S. military strategy ( I think now we use terms like “temporary disengagemnt” or some such wording…verbal obfuscation for the soothing of the public consciousness).

                  • @Archaeon: “One quick note: Batman would not necessarily lose in combat against Captain America.”
                    - I am talking about Steve Rodgers (Captain America) the guy with the super soldier serum… how do you suggest Bats could beat him?

                    (If you were in fact talking about Bucky Barnes’ Cap then it is POSSIBLE for Bats to beat him)

                    • Seriously? So, now just because you are stronger means you beat the weaker person? Tell that to Cap himself. He has beaten many men who are stronger than him as well as very good fighters.

                      Look, I am a Marvel fan over a DC fan by a LONG shot, but you have to give respect where it is due. Batman is possibly the best hand to hand fighter in comic books. That includes Cap, Wolverine, Sabretooth, Iron Fist, Nightwing, Deathstroke etc…. I really do not like Batman, but there is no taking away what he can do. The fact that Cap has the SS Serum is what makes this fight an even match from beginning to end. The added reflexes and strength counter the slightly better skill of Batman. This fight has no winner, ever. Nobody can say one would beat the other, not even the publishers themselves could decide.

                    • sigh…..I hate defending DC heroes. Makes me ill.

                    • TheAvenger…

                      No. I meant Steve Rogers. Batman has often (and easily) beaten opponents who are MUCH bigger and stronger than he was. When one has reached the level of martial artistry that both Batman and Cap have, strength becomes negligible…sometimes even becoming a DISadvantage.

                    • Look… Bats is on my list of top 5 super heroes, but I think a lot of people will agree that Cap is the better man, grated the fight will be extremely even and Cap will probably struggle to gain victory.

                      But please know this: everyone has their own opinion – I am just stating mine… I am not saying that anyone is correct or incorrect. For all I know Bats could very likely win… I am saying that if i were to to write a Bats vs. Cap comic: I would have Cap win – not because I favor him (I like Bats more than Cap) but because taking all the pro’s and con’s of each hero in account I would come to the conclusion that Cap is just a little bit better.

          • INK I see Darkseid and the New Gods being a great challenge for the Justice League(Final Crisis did an excellent job of putting a real world spin on Darkseid)..I can see the OMACs working if they incorporate how their AI is able to assimilate humans giving the collective hive an army of 6 billion strong (great way to introduce Dr. Midnight, Mr Terrific and Red Tornado too)..Nice angle also from the point of view of Batman’s mistrust of those with super powers..creating the OMACS to spy and it ultimately blows up in his face and he needs to rely on the others to help fight the OMACS..or it could be Blackest Night spinning out of the GreenLantern Sinestro Corps War as well..that would be epic on so many levels..

            Cheers

            I LOVE Marvel characters for the record..Especially Spiderman, Moon Knight, Thor , Hulk, Captain AMerica and all things cosmic in the Marvel Universe (yeah Thanos and Silver Surfer)

  14. With the whole real world villains comment by Black. Does that mean we won’t get the Madarin (srry if I misspelled that) for the third film?

  15. Not only do we need The Mandarin fighting Iron Man, we also need Ultron fighting The Avengers at some point in history. And maybe Kang in there as well. And definitely Skrulls vs The Avengers. And also The Frightful Four against The Fantastic Four! And Mr. Fear against Daredevil! And Spiderman against The Scorpion, Mysterio, Electro, Lizard, and maybe Morbius (but not all at once unless Spidey has a couple heroes helping him too). And how about The X-Men against The Sentinels, and The Avengers team having Quicksilver, Wasp, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Goliath (Hank Pym), and Cap as the team, and…..{{Oooohhhh, now I’m gonna be up fantasizing all night!!}}

    • “{{Oooohhhh, now I’m gonna be up fantasizing all night!!}}”

      So not cool….

      :)

      • @Tim: Why do you have to bum everybody out? Just let the guy enjoy himself.

  16. The subtleties that they speak of in Iron Man III reek of a Superman IV addressing the UN and getting rid of all nuclear bombs. I hate subtleties in operatic Super Hero movies . . . it rarely pans out.

  17. (stomps in to room)…. ALLRIGHT KIDS!!! DID SOMEONE START A MARVEL VS. DC THREAD IN HERE? ITS TIME FOR ALL OF YOU TO GO TO BED!! And it kind of depends on who writes the story, doesn’t it? AAAnd dont forget ” Hulk is the strongest one there is ” Only he’s not my favorite. HHHmmmm…. O.K., heres what happens. They mix it up, Batgirl is the last man standing.:)

  18. I’m with Favreau on this one, (was wondering the same thing myself before I read this.) how are they going to explain where the Avengers are during Ironman III. Thor, I suppose is a no brainer, he’s guarding Assgard while Odin has his rest. Hmmm, perhaps Marvel has told us to much. Maybe it has to do with the ending of The Avengers. Maybe right after they join they’ll disperse. Personally if I was doing Ironman III I would have it take place just before The Avengers film. Apparently Marvel continuity can be that way i.e. The Incredible HULK takes place mostly after Ironman II. The only saving grace (imo) which could explain it might be Stark’s reputation as a loaner. I’ve always wondered if Howard & Maria Stark’s death was an ‘accident’… perhaps revenge could be served up, the kind action that would not be accepted by the rest of the team. Personally I love that idea. (Thought of that right after I saw Ironman II in theatre)
    A major relief for me either way is that Downey will bring his A game, no matter what, so even if it won’t make sense at least it’ll be entertaining.

  19. I personally think they should bring in the Mandarin but they should also tie in the Avengers and refer back to the previous films to create continuity.

    I would have the Mandarin, not necessarily Chinese, but Mongolian (as there are Mongolians as members in the ‘Ten Rings’ organization according to Favreau in Iron Man I.) I think that the Mandarin should have been observing Tony Stark since the end of Iron Man I to the Avengers. He then tries to recruit Tony Stark into his services by sending Tony some memorabilia (perhaps something from Yinsen to tie back to the first film.) Against the orders of Nick Fury and the counsel of the Avengers, Tony decides to handle this mysterious ‘gift’ by himself.

    He meets the Mandarin who then tries to recruit Tony to help him conquer the world through technology. Tony refuses and fights, but is defeated.

    The Mandarin mocks Stark (perhaps his father and/or Yinsen too) and leaves. Tony is frustrated and refuses to listen to his Avenger comrades. Tony goes on a mad search for the Mandarin who plans to assemble the full might of the Ten Rings Terrorist Organization to dominate the Earth (the how and why should be left to the writers and director.)

    The whole story should have Tony learning to let go of his solo hero nature (this is subject to change depending on the story of the Avengers movie) and accept the help of the other Avengers to protect Earth.

    The Mandarin should survive and/or escape if they plan to extend the Iron Man film series or even bring him in as a villain in the Avengers film series.

    As for the Ten Rings, it is not exactly magic if the Director ties in the mythos from the Thor film. Maybe the rings are relics of Asgardian technology that were left on Earth thousands of years ago (like the Tesseract Cube) or weapons left behind by other aliens that the Asgardians have long since driven away. (This all depends on how true the Director wants to be to the original Mandarin origin story). With the Avengers and the bringing in of so many different stories, heroes, and villains, it is not all impossible for the Mandarin’s ten rings to exist in this story arc.

    As for who should play the Mandarin, I personally think Ken Watanabe is the ideal choice. He has played a somewhat similar role in Batman Begins as Ra’s Al Ghul (later turned out to be his decoy). He also is recognizable in America for his involvement in The Last Samurai and Inception.

    But these are only ideas.

    • That’s a cool idea. Better than the “real world villains” BS. Although I would just change the Asgardian tech thing. I was never really liked them being techy in the movies. Since (for ex.) in the Avengers show Thor always complains about “mortal’s technology and science” But other than that pretty cool.

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