Will Ms. Marvel Be Introduced In ‘The Avengers 2′ or Phase 3?

Published 9 months ago by , Updated February 11th, 2014 at 8:39 am,

Ms Marvel 31 Marvel Comics Will Ms. Marvel Be Introduced In The Avengers 2 or Phase 3?

More female characters! That’s something superhero films genuinely need more of. While Scarlett Johansson’s Black Widow stole a few scenes in The Avengers, she did so as the team’s only non-white-male combatant. Her screen time even helped push out the only other female teammate Wasp, a founding member of the team in Marvel Comics, who was in earlier drafts of The Avengers screenplay.

For next year’s sequel, The Avengers: Age of Ultron, Elizabeth Olsen suits up as Scarlet Witch and will join the team as one of its new members, alongside Aaron Taylor-Johnson who will play her brother Quicksilver. We found out today that Vision will enlist in Earth’s Mightiest in the fight against Ultron as well, to be played by Paul Bettany. Still, with the growing Avengers roster and new characters being introduced before and after with Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man, respectively, there’s a significant gender imbalance, and a female character has yet to headline a Marvel Studios feature film.

Captain America: The First Avenger fan-fave Hayley Atwell, one half of Marvel Studios’ best love story to date, got a chance to shine in the Marvel One-Shot Agent Carter and the positive response helped Marvel greenlight a TV series based on it on ABC. Also on TV, Jessica Jones will be one of four characters getting their own series on Netflix, so it’s clear the studio is taking strides to bring more powerful female characters to life. In theaters however, this has yet to translate.

Ms Marvel Carol Danvers Marvel Comics Will Ms. Marvel Be Introduced In The Avengers 2 or Phase 3?

Thor and Thor: The Dark World star Natalie Portman hinted months ago that Marvel is planning a female superhero movie and the most talked about candidate for who could lead their own feature one day is Ms. Marvel. With Vision joining The Avengers sequel, there’s another long-running rumor we’re revisiting that Ms. Marvel could also be introduced. She’s been namedropped by Marvel co-president Louis D’Esposito as a character of interest for a Marvel One-Shot and Hollywood talent ranging from Yvonne Strahovski and Katee Sackhoff to Emily Blunt and Ruth Wilson have all at one point talked about or been rumored for the role. There’s even been rumors of Black Panther showing up in The Avengers sequel in some small way – all of these things potentially laying the foundation for larger roles for them in the future.

Add to this the report that Marvel Studios may be planning a quick release for the Guardians of the Galaxy sequel with it taking the tentative May 6, 2016 slot claimed by Disney last summer and that leaves either a third Captain America/Thor movie for May 2017, and two unannounced titles we’re told will likely be new franchises coming later in each of those two years. Doctor Strange is the unofficially confirmed title potentially taking one of the two and the other has remained quite a mystery. For a while it seemed The Inhumans might be the obvious choice, but as we learn more and more about properties and characters the studio is interested in, Hulk, Black Panther and Ms. Marvel are all candidates too, albeit less likely ones.

If Ms. Marvel gets her introduction in The Avengers 2 next year – and we don’t know how her origin story will fit with so much focus being placed on Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and new villain Ultron (James Spader) – it could be a late addition by writer and director Joss Whedon to quickly setup her own solo film. At the same time, Marvel could also be attempting to beat competitor Warner Bros and DC Entertainment to the punch in getting a female-led feature greenlit (i.e. Ms. Marvel before Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman). Coincidentally, Warner Bros. turned down Joss Whedon’s Wonder Woman script years ago – a good motivator to launch Ms. Marvel first.

Kamala Khan Ms Marvel Comics Will Ms. Marvel Be Introduced In The Avengers 2 or Phase 3?

What could also lend credence to the idea of Ms. Marvel getting a big screen debut is in how the character is getting a big push in the comics. Marvel uses all of their entertainment mediums to help promote the films – just look at how Guardians of the Galaxy exploded in the comics front and how it’s getting an animated series (reportedly airing next fall). Carol Danvers has traditionally taken up the Ms. Marvel alias in the comics but new character Kamala Khan, Marvel’s first Muslim character to headline a book, has taken up the mantel for the third volume of the Ms. Marvel series which debuted to critical acclaim this week. Danvers meanwhile, lives on as Captain Marvel.

If Marvel Studios wants to boost the diversity of The Avengers, bringing in not only a super-powered female, but a Muslim character (i.e. Khan instead of Danvers) would be a very smart way to go. Could even have them both in a Ms. Marvel film. And yes, we all want Black Panther to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe soon too! Did I mention that Khan is an Inhuman? Let the obvious speculative connections to an Inhumans movie and the source of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver’s powers begin!

For comparison sake, Carol Danvers is a little overpowered for the film universe. She can fly, move super fast, has super strength and can absorb and fire energy blasts. Kamala Khan on the other hand, is a little more grounded and can almost be compared to Mr. Fantastic in that she can stretch her limbs and change her shape.

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Captain America: The Winter Soldier hits theaters April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on July 17, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

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  1. Its seems kind of odd that after spending a little over a year pushing Carol as Captain Marvel they would put her in a movie as Ms Marvel. Maybe she’ll just be introduced as air force officer or Shield agent without get her powers yet.

  2. I would love a ms. marvel movie, I would personally rather a carol danvers movie than Kamala Khan, but seeing as they’ve just introduced her in the comics its more likely. Hopefully its not a comedy like thor and iron man, and not a rom com like that elektra and cat woman b*******, but really good narrative and gritty like the cap movies. *wishing this to be true, with joss whedon at the writers desk*

  3. With Ms marvel that makes about 11 to 12 heroes and 2 villains. I don’t know I think they will need more villains to fight Unless Ultron makes an army of robots.

    I guess Avengers 2 will be 4 hours long.

    • So far for villains we have:

      Villain 1
      Ultron

      (Rumored:)
      Quicksilver
      Scarlet Witch

      Heroes:

      Iron Man
      Cap
      Thor
      Black Widow
      Hawkeye
      Hulk
      War Machine
      Vision

      (Later:)
      Quicksilver
      Scarlet Witch

      It’s likely villain will be the focus of the first half, quicksilver and scarlet witch will help him, and ultron will be used to help the Avengers beat him. The second half of the film will be Ultron’s turn, and the Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch additions to the hero side. It’s still unclear who will die, how vision comes into play, or who the first villain will even be. It’s not really unbalanced at this point.

      • The ONE thing that worries me is TOO MANY CHARACTERS. Yes, The Avengers are supposed to have many characters… but hear me out.

        We have the core 6. Iron Man, Captain, Hulk, Thor, Black Widow and Hawkeye.

        + Nick Fury, Coulson, Pepper Potts?

        + War Machine, Vision, Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver (the later two who will also be appearing in XMen DOFP).

        + Don’t forget that we will have ANT-MAN coming along next year as well to bind into Avengers 3 Phase.

        Character overload… unless there are some casualties.

        ***Months back, when asked what his general philosophy is for the sequel, without getting into details, Whedon followed up with a dark voice: “Death, death and death.”

        Potential casualties on the list: War Machine (there will be no more feature Iron Man films) and Hawkeye (even though he’s rumored to have big screen time). Black Widow may get her own film so most likely, she’s safe. Captain is safe in this one as Chris Evans still has 3 more contractual promises to Marvel.

        Will Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch be one and done? Will J.A.R.V.I.S. be Ultron? Will he be Vision?

  4. It’s so funny to me when people say, “Where the heck were all these characters when New York was under attack??” These are movies, not comics and not your imagination. You can’t just throw every character that exists into the first movie because then you’d have too many characters and isn’t that what everyone is always complaining about with these movies? Movies are a totally different process; they cost a lot of money and they are not easy to make.

    Also, this vitriol about not having a Black Panther movie yet: just give it time! They want to make it, they just want to do it right! They had a lot of other stuff on the front burners that they needed to get to first.

    Now, the Ms. Marvel character. I’m all for diversity and these movies sorely need it, but I do think Carol Danvers is the appropriate choice. I’m not sold on Margot Robbie because her Wolf of Wall Street role was, let’s say, not too wholesome, and that’s how most people know her now. These are Disney movies now. I think Katee Sackhoff or Tricia Helfer (BSG geek, I admit) would be the better choice. Yvonne Strahovski would be fine, too, I guess.

    Since the Kree is being introduced in GOTG, maybe that would be a good time to introduce her? Maybe in a post-credits scene?

    • @Tofu: You said:

      “Also, this vitriol about not having a Black Panther movie yet: just give it time! They want to make it, they just want to do it right! They had a lot of other stuff on the front burners that they needed to get to first.”

      Could it be that this supposed ‘vitriol’ about the timing of a BP movie comes from the FACT that we have been waiting ever since we heard this

      “We have a wide-open field for comic book characters on the big screen and we’ve yet to have a major black comic book hero on the screen. Especially the Black Panther, which is such a rich, interesting life. It’s a dream come true to originate something that nobody’s ever seen before.” -Wesley Snipes, August 1993

      Perhaps now you know how long we have been waiting.

    • I don’t think people are too worried about what prior films characters have been in leading up to their new roles…Anne Hathaway was in ‘Havoc’ long before she was Catwoman, and that film was no ‘Princess Diaries’.

      I personally think Charlize would fit the bill, but shes 38 now…by the time a Ms. Marvel feature could realistically be released, she’d be 42+…but if she stays fit, it’d work.

  5. 100% behind both Captain Marvel (Carol) and the new Ms Marvel in the MCU. The franchise is a bit of a sausage-fest at the moment. Not that I’m not loving these heroes, I do. They are great! But we could really need more than just white men, because after a while it gets jarring (not boring, but you get the feeling that something’s missing), IMHO.

    I think Carol would be a great addition to Avengers 3, because they’re gonna need the extra “firepower” if they’re really going up against Thanos, and Carol is incredibly powerful. I actually don’t know the powers of the new Ms Marvel (I did not look into it yet), but I would be happy with her too, but she’s not yet as established or “tried and tested” like Carol. The first issue of her solo comic only came out this week, so we don’t know her that well yet.

    Actually, i’m still hoping for a Captain Marvel solo movie in Phase 3, but I’m pretty sure we’re getting Doctor Strange, because of the infinity storyline.

    BUT, Guardians of the Galaxy could lead towards the Kree, so Mar-vell and then Carol, so yeah, I can see how she can be included soon if Marvel decides so.

  6. KHAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • +1! I was waiting for someone to do that.

      • Hey, Marvel could do that and I would find it much less upsetting than Star Trek into Darkness.

  7. I’m just worried if they go with Khan, the web will be replete with “Ms. Muslim” and crap like that and I’m sure the conservative right will have a collective heat attack tat ends up in boycotts and crap like that.

    • Also, not to mention how the Muslim crown will react to a Muslim woman sans burka or hijab. I think you’ll piss of everyone on both sides.

      • The majority of Muslim women living in the U.S. don’t wear burkas or hijabs just so you know. And most Muslim Americans don’t care one way or the other.

      • ermm, most women in the uk who wear headscarves (under the age of 30) are generally skanks who wear it as a fashion statement (there are some traditionalists but majority are defo skanks, like the girl from the british sitcom citizen khan)

  8. My safest bet for Ms. Marvel in Age of Ultron would be brief cameo, before she gets her power. Her inclusion for Avengers 3 is kinda obvious, especially if they are really going for Thanos as in galactic battle, they will definitely need someone with space power.

    Kinda think Emily VanCamp would make a perfect Carol Danvers as well, but she’s already in the cast as Sharon Carter… or is she? Remember how Miranda Tate is actually Talia AlGhul in TDKR? It is said that Winter Soldier is basically the bridge between the two Avengers movie, and the cast is going to be reoccuring, and the fact that VanCamp is said to only have a short cameo makes it a possibility. Well, the answer is in The Winter Soldier of course (though it’s probably highly unlikely haha)

    • I was thinking the exact same thing, Emily VanCamp would be great as Carol if she wasn’t already playing Agent Carter.

  9. I always get a kick out of folks who say that Black Panther fans should “be patient…Marvel just wants to get it right.”

    Marvel Studios has ZERO interest in making a Black Panther movie. I mean, Jack Kirby and Stan Lee gift wrapped T’Challa’s origin for them, created a great villain in Ulysses Klaw, and created one badass concept that has waited nearly fifty years to be mined.

    • @ Xmasevebaby: I agree it is funny when people say that. Like Marvel isn’t trying to “get right” all their other properties. Besides we have been promised a BP film now for over 12 plus years. There is nothing wrong with having some healthy doubt about it ever happening.

  10. “Warner Bros. turned down Josh Whedon’s Wonder Woman script years ago”

    That was the best bit from the article. Your loss DC.

  11. Yvonne Strahovski for Ms. Marvel if not Emily Blunt is fine she’s married to John Krasinski who was Jim on the office (if you were on the US Office you automatically score an extra 20 points in all forms of scrutiny) who was originally in the running for Cap I don’t think Emily Blunt would be bad at all but Yvonne Strahovski definetly fits a little better i’d say/ Oh and no I don’t care about proper grammer or spelling corrections because I am not being payed or graded on this anyone that wants to take the time to comment should go outside experience life it’s beautiful lol.

    • BJ Novak in The Amazing Spider-Man 2
      Amy Adams (US Office recurring character, season 2) in Man of Steel
      John Krasinski was considered for Captain America (also, that guy from Chuck reminds me of Jim Halpert)

      I do think that Yvonne Strahovski would be a great choice for Carol Danvers.
      Mindy Kaling for Kamala Kahn? Joking, but not b/c I don’t love Mindy.

      Finally, how awesome and perfect would it be for Rainn Wilson to be cast in some role in a comic book film? Something, anything.

      Also Jenna Fischer.

  12. I hope they introduce Carol Danvers as CAPTAIN Marvel. I prefer the gender neutral name. I also love what Kelly Sue DeConnick did with the character in the Captain Marvel issues.

  13. Yes, Marvel, yes Bi*ch!

  14. Look, Kamala is probably going to win my heart over (I found her absolutely adorable in her appearances so far), but when I think epic ass-kicking I think Carol Danvers. The woman resisted torture in the hands of terrorists and became the director of NASA security, after retiring as a Colonel of Air Force. AND THAT’S BEFORE SHE GOT HER POWERS. The woman is a badass who could shoulder a movie easily, end of story.

  15. Howda ya NOT want to see Carol Danvers brought to life on the big screen as Ms. Marvel? As to who best to portray her, let’s not be hasty..looks like a while yet before things get real, and that uniform needs filling by an actress “born” to play the role. A tall, blonde, curvy warrior woman who can act.

  16. My cast for a ‘New Avengers’ movie:
    Dr Strange: Johnny Depp
    Ms Marvel: Yvonne Strahovski
    Black Panther: Djomon Honsou
    Ant-Man: Ewan McGregor
    Wasp: Olivia Thirlby
    Luke Cage: Terry Crews
    Iron Fist: Jake Gyllenhaal
    Let me know what you think!

    • @ Vulcan: Not bad, I would make two changes

      1) no Johnny Depp for Dr. Strange sub in Eric Bana

      2) no Djimon Honsou for BP Djimon is too old he 50 yrs old! sub in Chadwick Boseman

  17. I think it’s a risk. Not many people know her. I would definitely love to see Weldon do a female superhero though. I don’t have high hopes for Wonder Woman but I hope I am wrong as I love her character and story.

  18. I’m not really knowledgeable on Ms. Marvel . Only thing I know about her is that Rogue absorbs her powers and that’s how she got super strength and flight. But I would love for the MCU to get more diverse. I mean you can’ argue that the most popular character in most comic books are white men. But it’s good to get diverse. We need more women and more ethnic diversity.

    • I agree. There should be more diversity. Here’s my idea for a character for a stand alone film: Moondragon. As a young girl she gets abducted by aliens and taken to their world where she learns the martial arts and telepathy. I wouldn’t necessarily keep her white, like in the comic books. I might cast a Black or Asian or Native American actress for the part.

  19. LMAO…boost the “diversity” of the all white super hero cast by adding a “white” woman. That is why the racial purists for these comic book movies make me want to hurl. Can you imagine what it would be like to have all of the super hero movies with all black and brown casts? Of course not, your heads would explode. But now put yourself in the place of black and brown people who go to these movies and all of the heroes are white, with a few ancillary minority characters. What a joke.

    How about minimally, when these movies are made, have them reflect the diversity of America. White males make up about 37% of this country. Why the hell are they 99% of the superheroes in these movies? That’s lazy, pathetic, & sickening.

    • Aw come on Virtuouswing don’t you know, people will pay to see white faces on the big screen but not necessarily for any black or brown faces on the silver screen. Look at the top 100 movies of all time none of them have a predominately black or brown cast. Man if it wasn’t for Will Smith there wouldn’t be any black lead characters in the top 100 films. Hey Marvel, just put Will Smith in all of your minority roles as a lead and you can make some money. LOL Sarcasm off.

  20. So should Sony in the name of diversity kill off Peter Parker in TASM 2 and introduce Miles Morales?

  21. Well, as female heroes (heroines) go, first and foremost I want Wasp (and of course Goliath/Hank Pym). After that we have several decent candidates: Carol Danvers as Ms. Marvel, Spider-Woman, Dazzler (oops…she might belong to the X-Men studio), and Captain Marvel Monica Rambeau. Any of them would be welcome additions to the Avengers team, I am sure.

  22. I hope, skye(agents of shields) will be ms marvel, since they are saying that she is not from earth, i don’t know the story of ms marvel, but minimizing the tons of characters that marvel is throwing to us, i wish they could simply introduce such possible heroes in agents of shields, so that they could tease us in the tv shows, although we all know, agents of shields are for shield members and not a major part in the avengers. it is also good that marvels are making one shot films, this could be used to introduced such characters

  23. I was a big fan of Captain Mar-Vell, Kree warrior, but Marvel had to kill him off. Since GotG (which I’ve not watched yet) is introducing a Kree – Ronan – maybe Marvel can have a cameo of Mar-Vell in one of the movies and show how his powers were passed on to Carol Danvers.