Joss Whedon Hints At Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch in ‘The Avengers 2′?

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Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Feige is the man behind the curtain of the entire film franchise. Joss Whedon is helping oversee Phase Two to ensure it builds towards The Avengers 2, but it’s Feige who’s in charge of the master plan of the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe. He knew Guardians of the Galaxy was going to happen a long time before The Avengers hit the big screen, and even before last summer’s record-breaking team-up film, Feige went on record talking about characters for its sequel.

We always knew the core team of Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man and Thor would return for The Avengers 2, but the more interesting question is what new characters will join them. Joss Whedon may have just let slip who the newcomers may be.

Seven months before The Avengers hit theaters, Kevin Feige said the following about new characters in the next big team-up:

“Absolutely. That’s the fun of it — introducing new characters. Seeing: ‘How will things change after Iron Man goes through his next adventure? After Thor goes through his next adventure? If we do another Cap adventure, how will things change? The dynamic between them? Their own worlds? So that the dynamic in Avengers 2 is actually quite different than it is in the first one.”

Almost a  year later, after The Avengers completed its run in theaters, Marvel co-chairman Louis D’Esposito got a little more specific:

“We’re currently working on Phase 2 and we have ‘Iron Man 3,’ ‘Thor: The Dark World’ and ‘Captain America: The Winter Soldier,’ so we returned to those franchises to enlarge them, but I think in ‘The Avengers 2′ will see one or two new characters.”

Immediate speculation goes to the obvious choices of Wasp – who was originally in the script of The Avengers 1 - and Ant-Man, who’s now getting his origin story told later that year after The Avengers 2 hit theaters. Doctor Strange is also confirmed for a Phase Three solo film introduction (no release date yet) so counting him and Ant-Man out, Wasp is the only safe bet when it comes to new characters. There’s of course chat of Phase Two characters helping support the main team, with Falcon and War Machine potentially joining the roster like Black Widow and Hawkeye did the first time around. Who else?

Ant Man Wasp Movie Tease Joss Whedon Hints At Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch in The Avengers 2?

Cue the world premiere of Iron Man 3 in Los Angeles last night where Yahoo! Movies chatted with Joss Whedon. Whedon says that he’s not only locked in the story, but the first draft of the script is done. In talking about how he’s going to “top” The Avengers and the other Phase Two films, he revealed something very interesting.

“I try to think of this as its own movie. Sometimes, ya, I feel pressure, how do you not? And by the way, Shane [Black] not helping! Iron Man 3 not helping! Because I saw this and said, ‘Aw, man, he really got it right!’ The pressure continues! But you put that aside, when you’re in the story, when you’re dealing with these characters that you love, that everybody loves, when you got the new characters sliding in next to them, it’s very exciting. Then I don’t feel pressure. Then it’s like I’m reading my favorite comic.”

But which characters? Later in the interview in talking about script drafts, he revealed:

“I’ve done enough shows and movies to be comfortable with that. You do come to a point where we all agree. ‘Okay. Oh, I’ve got these two characters, two of my favorite characters from the comic book; a brother-sister act. They’re in the movie. That’s exciting.’ You know, you lock certain things in”

Quicksilver Scarlet Witch Ultimates Avengers Joss Whedon Hints At Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch in The Avengers 2?

The only brother-sister act from “the comic book” that makes sense for The Avengers 2 would be Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, two classic members of The Avengers team who are also in the Ultimate version of The Avengers for which the films draw much of its inspiration for story arcs and and costume/character designs. But wait, they’re mutant characters so only Twentieth Century Fox – the studio holding the X-Men rights – can use them, right? Not so. Kevin Feige:

“It’s a little complicated, but if they [Fox, which holds the X-Men rights] want to use them in the X-Men movie they could, [but] if we want to use them in The Avengers movie, we could.”

By legal technicality, since the pair are both mutants and early members of The Avengers, both studios could in theory, use the characters. The bigger issue are the story and character arc implications of including the pair because the Marvel Cinematic Universe – as created by Marvel Studios – doesn’t include mutants (yet) and as fans know, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are children of Magneto.

Will they rewrite their origins, family ties and sources of superpowers for The Avengers 2? Is Whedon even referring to them in The Avengers 2. Has Mark Millar (Fox’s comic book movie consultant) and Fox worked with Marvel to – like Millar publicly spoke about – make sure the film universes don’t contradict each other?

Throw in Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine by some fanboy miracle and we get:

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The Avengers 2 Scarlet Witch Quicksilver 570x357 Joss Whedon Hints At Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch in The Avengers 2?

Quicksilver’s real name is Pietro Maximoff and his mutant power gives him superhuman speed. Think of him as Marvel’s Flash. Scarlet Witch’s real name is Wanda Maximoff and her abilities are a little more complex. She can essentially change reality by altering probabilities and at times, she’s completely changed the Marvel universe, even de-powering most of mutantkind.

Another possibility is that the brother-sister act could be taken figuratively, and that Whedon could simply be referring to a type of partnership involving a new character. Remember Tony Stark’s reference to Agent Coulson dating a “cellist” in The Avengers? Whedon had a very specific reason for including that line and it could be referring to Kate Bishop, the other Hawkeye who happens to play the cello. Her and Clint Barton (played by Jeremy Renner) act as siblings in the books, but having two archers in The Avengers 2 is a stretch.

Whedon will undoubtedly be asked to clarify the next time media catches hold of him, but for now, let the speculation begin!

Iron Man 3 releases May 3, 2013, Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers 2 on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and Doctor Strange sometime after that.

Let me know on Twitter @rob_keyes what Avengers you want to see in the sequel!

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  1. Use Pietro and Wanda to bridge the gap between the X-men and Avengers. I think its only a matter of time before both studios realize there is far more money to be made if they collaborated and created one big universe rather than trying to just make money on their own. Fox would stand to gain a lot considering the highest grossing marvel movie they’ve made on their own made $459 million worldwide. The Avengers made 1.5 billion, over 3 times as much. Even if Fox took 40% cut of the total gross they would still come out way ahead.

    Thinking about it from a comics standpoint, all the major books have standalone stories and crossover stories. Let the studios who own the rights to the characters do their standalone movies, and then collaborate for the big bucks with a crossover every couple of years. How awesome would it be to see Wolverine and Spiderman in an Avengers movie? It just seems like a no-brainer

    • You just shot your logic in the foot there…….Seems Marvel is doing just fine on their own and the only one that would possibly gain is Fox. Why would Marvel help Fox, a studio who owns the rights to characters they WANT back? It makes no sense.

  2. Ms. Marvel PLEASE. Played by the girl from Chuck, Yvonne [dontknowhowtospellherlastname]

    • Yvonne Strahovski :P and i agree , would be a good character and casting choice.

    • Totally would love to see Ms. Marvel.
      Casting: I’d rather see Alice Eve in thigh highs and a sash.
      I wouldn’t scoff at Yvonne though either.

    • hell yeah Yvone for ms marvel

      • Agreed.

  3. I guess it would be a matter of what version of SW you are talking about. She also has a difficult power to convey in any format, which is why what she has gone through changes so much.

    She has to be low power version, or at least not able to alter reality (yet?).

    How much is given to explain how her powers work? Is it just going to be hex balls and improbable things happening around her? How do you make the connection. What about all of her mental issues? How do you show rather than tell this?

    I don’t like characters with such open-ended, potentially unlimited powers, or way too many abilities in general. I think it gives the writers too much leeway in making up powers like Superman towing a bunch of planets.

    SW can essentially do anything, but her own mental failings keep her from controlling her abilities fully.

    So how would she fit in a team, when she’s super-powerful, unreliable, and mentally unstable?

    If she is on the team, I would imagine it would be something like Hulk from Av1. The uncontrollable, powerful, and dangerous ally.

    • “…or at least not able to alter reality.”

      But that´s her actual power, everything else is magic.

      • i thought her mutation was probability manipulation and her magic was augmented by her mutation.

        • Her power is to alter reality. It is called “Chaos Magic” and is unknown by even the most skilled sorcerers like Dr. Strange. This is what makes her so interesting. The power messes with her head, and then her power alters reality. Anyone who is unfamiliar, look up M-Day and also about the time she had children with the Vision, which would be impossible and everyone thought she was crazy when she conjured children.

          I think she will bring Coulson back to life. They already said he was dating her and that would be perfect. Can’t wait for the Witch, she is the best female hero in my opinion. Possibly the most interesting of all the super heroes.

  4. Why is everyone hating on the x-men movies? I for one love them, yes last stand and wolverine origins were not great (i enjoyed parts of each just not as whole films) but x2 and first class were well made, commercially and critically successful! I do wish fox would give up the rights to the xmen, it’s weird that avengers and iron man are the most successful movies of the MCU. Since the xmen comics are still to this day the best selling comics for marvel. I for one love quicksilver and scarlet witch in both, they played a huge part in x-men comics they both made their first appearance in xmen #4 so it would make more sense for them to first appear in the xmen movies and they as a rebellion of magneto they join the avengers. I would love to see them in a house of m movie! Stop the hating on mutants! Please don’t change their origins!

    • I love the X-Men but I hate Fox’s version.

    • yeah! DONT CHANGE THEYRE ORIGINS. YOURE GOING TO RUIN IT ALL.. DONT DO IT!!!!!!! marvel will never be the same……. a gain…

  5. Maybe they will have the Maximoff’s as the children of the Whizzer!

  6. This could be setting up a line of things. Like M-Day, Civil War and World War Hulk… Just saying. with Scarlet Witch, it could happen. Maybe we could see Vision in this?

  7. Anyone else wondering why it couldn’t be the Storms? We’ve already heard that the Fantastic Four are trying to reboot, so why couldn’t it be Johnny and Sue Storm? Especially if marvel can use some of these characters, despite other companies having the rights…

    • Nope. Fox still owns the rights to FF unfortunately.

  8. They should only as Ms Marvel (Yvonne Strahovski)to Avengers 2, otherwise it is just to crowded.
    Right now they have
    Hawkeye
    Black Widow
    Hulk
    Falcon
    Capt America
    Iron Man
    Iron Patriot/ War Machine
    Star Lord
    Rocket Raccoon
    Gamora
    Yondu
    Drax
    Groot

    And then rumored:
    Nova
    Wasp
    Ant Man

    Its too many

    They should work a Marvel Team up in to Phase 3 that includes Hawkeye, War Machine, Falcon and Bruce Banner going to Wakanda and meeting up with Black Panther

    Phase 3 would then be
    Ant Man
    Dr Strange
    Capt America 3
    Thor 3
    Marvel Team Up
    Avengers 3

    And then a Guardians of the Galaxy 2 that is not connected to Avengers 3.

    • Oh, I forgot Thor and possibly Loki on that list as well

    • There is nothing anywhere that says all the GotG are going to show up in Avengers 2. Your list is preposterous. Writers know better than to put too many characters into a single plot. Writers all over remember what happened with Spiderman 3.

      • *cough*Days Of Future Past*cough*

        • Haha the new studio logic is now the following post avengers :

          1) Add as many superheroes to a movie as possible.
          2) ???
          3) Profit!!

    • No Guardians in Avengers 2. Already confirmed. The Guardians movie is basically a Thanos origins movie. The Avengers are looking more like:

      Iron Man
      Captain America
      Thor
      Hulk
      Hawkeye
      Black Widow
      War Machine
      Falcon
      Dr. Strange (possibly? we’ll have to see Thor 2)
      Ant-Man
      Wasp
      Quicksilver
      Scarlet Witch
      Black Panther (there are rumors)

      With Black Panther and Dr. Strange as maybes, we’ve also heard the movie’s roster will be 15 Avengers strong, which (if that 15 includes Nick Fury as one of the names) bodes well for Strange and Panther. However, I’m liking the Ms. Marvel ideas too, I’d just like to see a Captain Marvel movie to introduce her first.

    • We need Wasp,Hank Pym,Quicksilver,Scarlet Witch and Black Panther.I would also add Vision but theres to much history there that needs to be built up.Pack em in and make the movie 4 hours long!!!!

  9. Cloak and Dagger?

    • That seems like it could happen. They are very much a brother and sister thing. It would also be nice to see them because they are not A-list people, but they are very interesting

      • Aren´t they mutants? Can Marvel use them?

  10. I think, as several people have already said, that perhaps it was not intended to be taken literally. He never said “In Avengers 2, we will have a couple of characters who are brother and sister” He said “brother-sister act”, which means either two people of opposite sex who have a very close but platonic relationship OR are always arguing and bickering with each other. Now, as I don’t know each and every character in the MU, I can’t come up with examples, although I did think maybe it means the introduction of She-Hulk (cousin to Bruce Banner). Maybe not.

    My first thought was to think that they could not add other heroes to the roster of the Avengers before they introduce Wasp and Ant-Man/Giant-Man, since they were founding members and the fans have been almost begging for them ever since before the first movie. But then I realized that Hawkeye and more so Blackwidow, were not around when the Avengers were formed, and yet are still in the first movie.

    So all in all, I would be disappointed if QS and SW were in A2 while Wasp and Ant-Man were still tossed aside, and since I’m not a fan of either one of the twins, this news is actually leaving me un-astounded.

    • How they are potentially handling Ant-man is also very disappointing.

      • We still don’t know how he will be handled. Keep faith, my friend!

      • +1 I Agree.

        Keep the faith that Edgar with do Ant-Man (W)right (see where i went with that….)

  11. Introducing Quicksilver would be a double kick in the pants to both DC and Fox:

    Fox – beating them to the punch and utilizing a character that both have rights to…….Fox trying to introduce their version after the fact just wouldn’t work for audiences.

    DC – Doing a speedster first would sure take the wind out of introducing the Flash in JL. Everyone will be thinking of Quicksilver when the Flash makes his debut, making him feel like a lame ripoff (to the unwashed masses who don’t know any better)

    • Actually, Fox already “introduced” Quicksilver in Origins: Wolverine.

      • Were not talking about that ;)

        His role was so trivial though (and unforgettable) and the movie pretty much disavowed by the comic community in general, so we are gonna pretend it’s a clean slate.

        This would be Marvel’s chance to do the character justice and give him a more worthy part to play.

      • That scene was crap, Scapegoat.

        Quicksilver held by Weapon X? Are you Kidding me? How did they catch him? Why hadn’t Magneto or Wanda showed up yet to rescue him? Too many plot loopholes in that scene, and over a ‘background’ character.

      • Guess I’d better go back and rewatch my copy. Somehow I just can’t recall it. he must have been moving too fast. Was he called Quicksilver in that?

    • When people think of super-speedsters, i think they will still always think of The flash first, he is just too well-known by comparison. I would like to see flash from DC and Quicksilver from marvel. By the way, did you know there was an early villain (Marvel) who was a super-speedster named The Human Top (later, Whirlwind became his name)? And Dc had a villain named Professor Zoom, who was one of Flash’s biggest arch-nemesis’, a futuristic villain in a yellow/red suit with colors the opposite of Barry Allen’s. This reverse Flash should be the villain in the proposed Flash movie. In fact, I would fantasize about a team-up between Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) and Flash (Barry Allen) against Sinestro and Professor Zoom. Now that would be a great tag-team match-up fight!

  12. I don’t care if its an Avengers movie or not, Marvel has to introduce Moon Knight! I want a crazy Moon Knight on film beating the crap out people.

    • Yeah moon knight is really cool he would rock in the marvel movies

  13. Quicksilver and scarlet witch are both awesome and cool I can imagine Whedon nailing the into the story wonderfully

  14. Some of you ppl are STONED there is NO WAY they put 20 characters in A2!
    Chances are that Rhodie and Falcon MAY show up and MAY NOT but they will not be main players!
    THERE IS NO ANTMAN in A2 we may see a button scene or Hank Pym at some point but he will not play a huge role either
    so your basically looking at the same crew +2
    MAYBE with appearences from a cpl of the other side players like Rhodes or Falcon, but other than that there are NO NEW players that we know of coming in to play?
    NO GOTG maybe RR or StarLord MAYBE
    NO ANTMAN, NO Dr. Strange (except button scenes or a cameo) TO GET US ALL GOING.
    NO WASP (unless reports are false Stephanie Stozstak is NOT playing Janet Van Dyne)
    NO Black Panther (Newcommers Will HAVE NO CLUE WHO HE IS)
    WE MIGHT BE LUCKY TO SEE HAWKEYE… I think he ruffeled feathers when he cried about his role in the first avengers, WE hear NOTHING about him showing up in ANY phase 2 movies thus far!!
    so without him that is 8 by my count (including BW) she is at least showing up in CA!
    BUT NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT FALCON OR IRON PATRIOT being in A2!
    we may see 10 or 11 TOTAL any more than that the movie will need to be 3.5 hrs long to fit everything in and I dont see that happening

    • I’d like Cap, Iron man, Goliath, Wasp, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch. Possibly Thor. If I had to leave someone out, it would be Hulk, Black Widow, Nick Fury, and Hawkeye. Not ready for vision or Black panther yet, but maybe later. need to get some villains in there also besides Loki and whoever else. How about Kang, Ultron, Skrulls, Diablo, Whirlwind…any winners there yet? Oh yes, and a real Mandarin like in the comics, rings zapping away and everything, would be OK.
      On the subject of villains, by the way, good as they are, I hope the movie-makers remember there are other villains available for use in the various movies besides Magneto, Loki, and Dr. Doom. And other heroes besides Wolverine.

  15. I hope not.

  16. This comment just gave me a nerd stiffie.

    • The news of SW & QS, not any comment. Although I’m sure all of you are lovely too. Just pitching tents is my point.

  17. Without Spider-Man…naaah. It won’t ne the same. Buy back the Spidey from Sony! Marvel movie is not Marvel movie without our Wall Crawler. :)

  18. I would say it’s easy to include them, while leaving their origins a mystery (for now). Simply don’t mention their father by name (possibly just hint that he has a “Magnetic” personality). Eventually, if the movie Gods allow, you can make them the bridge for Phase 3. A Marvel/Disney reboot of the X-Men franchise. Marvel’s Avengers 3, A vs X.

  19. Why does everyone think the Avengers2 cast is gonna be so huge….its just not.

    Captain America
    Iron Man
    Thor
    Hulk
    Black Widow
    Hawkeye
    Falcon
    War Machine

    Thats it. Maybe Ant-Man and Wasp or just Ant-Man by himself.

    Now for Avengers 3…thats gonna be a huge cast for sure.

    Captain America
    Iron Man
    Thor
    Hulk
    Black Widow
    Hawkeye
    Falcon
    War Machine
    Ant-Man
    Wasp
    Doctor Strange
    Black Panther(I hope)
    Vision(possibly)

  20. I like the idea of using the female archer and giving more depth for Hawkeye I guess I’m just fine either way whether it’s that ir Quicksilver and Scarlet witch I love me both

  21. You guys are not thinking out of the box. I bet the brother sister act will actually be Ant Man and Wasp.

    Don’t get too attached to the source material… this is Disney and we can’t have a couple where the husband slaps the wive, but we can have a brother and sister than argue (didn’t they just “infantilise” The Mandarin in Iron Man 3?).

    Think about it for a moment:

    - The Avengers 2 will not have time to deal with the origin stories of Wanda and Pietro
    - Ant Man is coming right after The Avengers 2 which makes the introduction worth it
    - Ant Man and Wasp are actually founding members and more important than Pietro and Wanda

    • Most definately I wanted Ant Man and Wasp in the first one but putting Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch in the Avengers would to me ruin it they are more involved with the x men and that’s where they should stay

      • They really have been much more involved with the Avengers since the 60′s. Just because Magneto was their father doesn’t mean they were primarily in the X-Men books. The Avengers are all about giving criminals a chance to rehabilitate.