Does Tony Stark Create Ultron in ‘The Avengers 2′? [Updated]

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Age of Ultron Art Marvel Comicsjpg Does Tony Stark Create Ultron in The Avengers 2? [Updated]

[Update: Tony Stark is involved in the creation of Ultron. Details here.]

Loki (Tom Hiddleston) was the big bad villain of The Avengers, the motivating force between Earth’s Mightiest forming together as a superhero team to save New York from an alien invasion. By the end of the film we learned that Thanos, an even greater cosmic threat, may have been behind it all, and we’ll learn more about him next year in Guardians of the Galaxy. While Thanos is expected to finally get more screen time going forward, he’s not the antagonist of The Avengers sequel. Instead, a dangerous robot named Ultron aims to fracture the heroes in what we learned at Comic-Con to be titled The Avengers: Age of Ultron.

As for Thanos, he’s sticking around for the long-run and into Phase Three of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Kicking off that phase, oddly enough, is Ant-Man, a film that will include the character of Hank Pym who created Ultron in Marvel Comics. How exactly does Ultron feature into Age of Ultron if its creator isn’t introduced until later?

Outside of the obvious possibility that Hank Pym could be introduced in The Avengers 2 in a limited capacity before becoming Ant-Man – that would be a smart way to help increase the profile of the obscure project – we know that Joss Whedon, writer and director of The Avengers: Age of Ultron, has crafted his own origin story for the character. In the film universe, it’s not Pym who creates Ultron. The brief teaser and title card played at Comic-Con when Whedon unveiled the name of The Avengers sequel is our biggest hint.

Here’s what we wrote last week:

While elements of Marvel Comics stories over the years relating to Ultron may be used, his origin will be entirely different since his original creator, Hank Pym, won’t be in the film. From the teaser introducing Ulton as the villain of The Avengers sequel, it’s clear that Ultron is formed from Iron Man armor so it’s our belief that Tony Stark – and perhaps something to do with his AI assistant Jarvis going rogue – will be used to create the new antagonist. But that’s just speculation on our part.

Feature Film Casting seemed to have concocted their own synopsis for the film which also points to the obvious that Stark is somehow involved with the creation of Ultron.

In “The Avengers: Age of Ultron” Loki is gone and the new villain will be the evil robot Ultron, who has the ability to keep upgrading his own strength, making him extremely fearsome. Tony Stark/Iron Man becomes the unwitting creator of Ultron. The brother-and-sister team of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch become the seventh and eighth members of The Avengers. Quicksilver has extreme speed, while Scarlet Witch can cast spells and has telekinesis ability. Black Widow and Hawkeye will be key figures in the film.

Ultron Marvel Comics Annihilation Conquest 5 Does Tony Stark Create Ultron in The Avengers 2? [Updated]

The idea that Stark is responsible for a lethal and dangerous villainous artificial intelligence would provide the story a good reason for getting Stark back into the Iron Man armor after the events of Iron Man 3, and it’s clear that it is his technology involved with creating Ultron. Whether he’s wholly responsible for creating Ultron or some other force at play is partly to blame, we’ll have to wait and see.

If Whedon really wants to get geeky and maintain ties to the cosmic side of the Marvel universe, perhaps even laying seed for future plot lines to explore, he could bring in other cosmic threats like the Phalanx – an aggressive cybernetic alien species who have ties to Ultron (he leads them in the Annihilation Conquest story) and the Guardians of the Galaxy (who help stop them) during an attempted invasion of the Kree empire (who’s leader will be featured in the Guardians of the Galaxy film). 

As for Loki, while Whedon previously went on record claiming Loki isn’t a part of his script, Kevin Feige was a little more coy about the possibility at Comic-Con. We may have a better idea on that front after Thor: The Dark World hits theaters this November.


More: Ultron Getting New Origin Story


Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

Follow Rob on Twitter @rob_keyes for your Marvel movie news!

Source: Feature Film Casting

Ultron Phalanx cover art by Aleksi Briclot for Annihilation Conquest #5.

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  1. We all know the answer to this. Most definitely.

    • We all know the answer to this: who cares? Pym created it. Stark created it. Fury created it. None of that changes the fact that Ultron is an underwhelming idea for the sequel. Start with Loki, then tease Thanos… then… Ultron? Pretty meh.

      • Thanos was there as teaser for Guardians of the Galaxy…

      • @Bro


        I said this after the first Avengers movie released but Thanos in the sequel would make the third movie underwhelming considering how badass and dangerous he is.

        Yay me for correctly predicting Ultron over a year ago and yay Ultron, who is more of a threat than you even seem to know.

        • Depends on which Thanos they are using. I mean is he going to be the guy who get beats by Odin, like the beginning of his comic career, or the guy who an entire universe seeks out to destroy (Thanos Imperative).
          Hopefully they find a medium ground and then maybe in phase 5,6,7 or however far they are taking this MCU he can come back and be the character he now is in the comics.

          They’ll say that SHIELD created Ultron after Black Widow hacked into their files ;)

          • I didn’t know Odin was into hip hop…

            • lol

            • Lol I see that!!! Funny.

            • haha thank you for that

            • ROFL!!!

              • lmao guy deserves “screen rants best comment award”

      • Ultron is a great idea, even though not involving Pym is a bad idea. And here is another idea for all of you: we need to add Goliath! And another idea: we also need to add Wasp! And how about trying this one on for size: we need to get Kang in there and also some Skrulls mixing it up as well!
        And you know what? I’ll let you have Black Panther and Vision eventually, if you let me have Goliath and Wasp. And how about Whirlwind as an adversary for Quicksilver (both super-speedsters)?

  2. Stark creating Ultron (aka corrupt Jarvis) is the most logical path given the events of Iron Man 3. It would be personal for him to don the Iron Man suit again.

    • Exactly.

      • and considering Ultron created Vision, that would be Jarvis getting back on Tony’s good graces?

    • Most logical, weakest, laziest: certainly the option 90% of the internet community would put their money on knowing as precious little as they do about it so far…

      • No, the weakest and laziest way would be to do the exact same stories as the comics.

        • @Cave-ish Man

          Exactly what I’ve been saying too. Why go to a movie knowing the entire story from start to finish because you read it before the movie was made?

          If they didn’t change anything, people would complain. When they do change things, people complain.

          At this point, I’d rather follow along with what Marvel are doing than worry what Nerd #416 is complaining about because he noticed that Cap’s shield has more of a burnt sienna than a crimson shade to it.

          • Phew! thought you refering to me for a second :P

        • Oh? No, I don’t give a rat’s tail in a witch’s brew about them using Pym or any of that jazz either. I just find the whole “Stark/Jarvis” alternative to be *even* weaker/lazier than *that*. Ugh. >___>

          I mean it’s like someone said further down: “yet another storyline that circles around Tony Stark… whoopee…”. Yeah, because that’s not lazy or weak just within the MCU itself.

    • I’d love to see Tony’s machine that he would “donate to a city college” become Ultron.

  3. It’s the obvious story line but Marvel doesn’t usually do the obvious. Maybe someone else is responsible for Ultron and Stark is the only other person who has the ability to create the solution to the destruction of Ultron.

    • Exactly. It’s NOT going to be the simple and obvious story.

  4. That’s what I thought they were going for in Iron Man 3, or a variation on that. I figured the armor had/would gain sentience and go evil or something, but as we all know, they went in another direction………..a twist :(

  5. Garbage. Utter garbage. They should at least have Pym assist him in some kind of way. Between this and the Mandarin, I’m losing my faith in Marvel Studios one tiny bit at a time.

    • Same here, brother. Same here.

    • Freddy Got Fingered is garbage. This is contrary to your wishes.

      • no…daredevil was garbage…beer belly daredevil…smh

    • This is a good way to keep Stark emotionally involved in procedings. He would likely feel guilty etc.. Also, lack of Iron Man until the big reveal near the end of the film would give room for others to shine. This would be needed to gen that they have two new hero’s to introduce, explain, demonstrate and explore.

      The only tricky part for me is the sudden introduction of magic powers. Thought that would have been best left for a full motion picture to explore.

      • I could live with that, Stark and Pym working together to create Ultron. Stark has the body tech, Pym has the brain tech, imprinted on Starks J.A.R.V.I.S AI, it could be VERY plausible, I only ask that Pym is involved. As far as magic, they already established that in Thor. Magic and Science are one and the same, what appears to us as magic is just highly advanced science.

        • How about this ….Stark and Pym get together to create The Vision to combat Ultron. But the most interesting thing is how input human conscienceness to machine. A machine that uses human emotion to hatred. Interesting to see where Joss Whedon goes with this.

          • Wow. Little by little, just deviating away from canon.

            First Mandarin is a washed up actor, next Stark creates Ultron, then finally Stark and Pym create Vision.

            What’s next? Hulk is gay so as to be more inclusive in audience reach?
            No wonder he’s mad all the time.

    • So one mistake and you lose faith? Sounds like you never had any.

      • Read it again sir. I said one tiny bit at a time.

        • @Squareman357

          So…you prefer cliched plotlines that are completely predictable and boring to sit through then?

          Because if you hated the Mandarin twist, you must be one of those who needs everything spoonfed to you like a child so that it doesn’t hurt your brain when you try to think for yourself.

          • LOL its amazing how if someone doesn’t like something the insults start being tossed out. Internet Anonymity at it’s best. Do I prefer cliched plotlines? No. Do I like my Marvel heroes and villains as close to what I’ve been reading for 40 years? Yes. I hated the Mandarin twist simply because that was NOT the Mandarin. They could have modernized him so as not to be a racist caricature, and with Thor they introduced the whole science/magic angle so his rings could have a valid reason for existing. Instead they gave us a cornball interpretation. So yes, as a long time Marvel comic fan and Iron Man fan, I hated the Mandarin twist. Now, if you’d like to debate like an adult, we can continue to converse. If you’d prefer to hurl insults like a rabid 4th grader, you will do so alone.

          • @Dazz
            Just because someone wants a story to stay faithful to the source material does not mean they need information fed to them you sound ignorant making statements like that yet you call @squareman357 a child. Marvel needs to put the real fans first and stop pandering to the lowest commen denomenator just for profit.

            • Exactly Gundy. I replied to Dazz but the comment is awaiting moderation, though I didn’t use any profanity or banned words I’m aware of.

              • I agree with Dazz 100%

            • *common denominator

              And I’m a fan too. I loved the Extremis story and couldn’t wait to see it play out in IM3. At the same time, I worried that it would follow the story I’d read ages ago and I’d be disappointed.

              What happened was that the changes in plot and character happened and I walked out enjoying the movie immensely, excitedly telling Screen Rant how much I enjoyed the movie and then a week later, it opens in America and we have man-children saying “Wahh, they changed Mandarin, Marvel sucks, no faith in movies now”.

              Seriously, grow up and appreciate that we’re not getting a panel by panel recreation of something we’ve already read a thousand times before.

              Burton’s Batman changed it so that Joker killed Thomas and Martha Wayne instead of Joe Chill but nobody seemed to care and it worked well for the movie’s plot.

              I think this is one thing that a lot of my fellow comic book fans need to understand. Movies and comic books should only give elements of popular stories, not follow them to the letter. Look what happened when Zack Snyder tried that with Watchmen up until the end.

              The movie was considered too long and poorly executed by many and on the other side of the coin, people complained that there wasn’t a fake alien invasion at the end. The new ending worked in the context of the movie though so that’s one argument pretty much eradicated.

              Do you hate the fact Thor isn’t also a crippled human that needs a walking stick or did you appreciate the reference to Donald Blake in the name badge he wore because the way yourself and Squareman357 sound to me and Cave-ish Man, it’s likely you both hate that movie for not following the comics exactly.

              • Nope. Loved Thor. I don’t need the 60s incarnations of the characters to enjoy them. I didn’t have a problem with Iron Man being “born” in Afghanistan. Modern context is fine with me. What I had a problem with was the total destruction of a primary villain of Iron Man. No attempt at even getting close to the source material. As I stated somewhere else, it’s one thing to change the material in a way that assists with the flow of the narrative and modernizes the context. It’s another to totally destroy what makes the character interesting. They could have done many things with the Mandarin to modernize him and make him viable, instead they choose to waste that opportunity as well as the AWESOME portrayal of the Mandarin up until the point of the cheesy reveal. If you aren’t mature enough to carry on a debate/discussion without constantly feeling the need to insult and belittle people for having a differing opinion, you aren’t worth the keystrokes. I’m done responding to you.

              • I do wanna point out first off that this is why I love screen rant and this community if this was youtube comments people would be uselessly fighting to where we are having a actual discussion. Dazz you have many good points that I do agree with. I think my biggest problem with mandarin is they made him a joke vrs just a ” re imagining ” ( Thor/Donald Blake).

              • “Seriously, grow up”
                And here you are watching comic to film movies and commenting on them.
                Shall we share marbles young einstein?

            • “Marvel needs to put real fans first” – And your saying Dazz sounds ignorant? just because we also read the comics doesnt mean the movies should be tailored to our liking, its up to what marvel feels is best for everyone, because the movies are meant for everyone, not just comic book fans. Also profit is what allows for a sequel, so its pretty important too

            • The lowest common denominator would have expected that kind of ending, having Iron Man and Mandarin fight each other in robot suits would have been what the mainstream audience would have expected from the film.

              A message on the ideals of American Paranoia, Terrorism and the power behind symbols and icons? Not so much. Also did

              • Sorry accidentally sent before I’d finished.
                Also did you consider that Marvel didn’t hire Shane Black to do a shot for shot remake of extemeis? This is the man behind Lethal Weapon, you pick him because he’s going to make a great movie if anything Shane Black just pushed forward superhero movies but going further then the traditional super-hero/super-villain fight and instead opting to have a message in there.

                Not all changes are good but complaining just because there was a change is kind of childish.

          • Why so combative Dazz? Just because you consider being faithful to source boring and predictable doesn’t mean you have to attack those who don’t. These movies are adaptations after all. Of course people expect major aspects of the “lore” to be realized. What’s wrong with that? It sounds more like you dislike adaptations in general than anything else. Personally, I’ve never read an ant-man story in my life, but I’m rather bemused at the level of disrespect to his character that this decision reveals.

            • Nope, I like adaptions, it’s just boring as hell when something I’ve seen or read before is faithfully converted scene by scene.

              I didn’t like the Harry Potter movies compared to the books but I like that they changed or removed things to make it enjoyable and a fresh experience for those of us who read the books before seeing the movies.

              Not being combative at all, just not my fault that people can’t handle a little truth.

      • So you actually acknowledge it as a mistake then Tay?

  6. Stark builds Ultron – Ultron kills Stark – Downey Jr. gets out of the superhero biz – Captain America takes up the Iron Patriot mantle?

    • Nope, RDJ’s contracted through Avengers 3.

  7. I think Stark will help create him. They might say another scientist layed the groundwork and some stuff etc aka Ant-Man who may only be in the film or an after credits scene as just Pym. In some way Pym has to be his creator, he has to be.

  8. I’m welcoming this idea, I don’t know what the big uproar about Pym not creating Ultron is. I get that he’s a “big part of his journey for redemption”, but what does he need to be redeemed for here? I believe Edgar and Cornish’s script is going to be good without the inclusion of Ultron, and everyone needs to know that the MCU is unlike the comics.

    Things, and the characters can be shaken up.

    • +1,000,000,000

      • I’ll add some more numbers to that when I can. Maybe it will be the box office numbers for Avengers: Age Of Ultron when the masses lap it up as a great movie while the handful of complainers continue to bemoan the changes to canon, even though they make the most sense movie wise.

    • @Nick – Ultron is the reverse mirror of Pym. All that Pym is – conflicted, unstable, lacking self-esteem – Ultron isn’t.

      The strife between ambition and conflicted self-doubt, a human foible.
      Should I or shouldn’t I?

      The complete irony is that Ultron himself was completely flawed, based on the human mind (Pym’s) – Pym is an expert in cybernetics and artificial intelligence…but he had to design based on a foundation – himself – a flawed beginning. Hence, Ultron’s imperative – eliminating flawed humans ultimately meant he was to eliminate himself too.

      I could go on with this. This approach is so rich and diverse that it opens up much deeper levels of characterization – something any actor worth their salt would be willing to challenge themselves with.

  9. I think if no Pym, it should be am amalgamation of Tony Stark Armor/Tech & Chitauri Alien Technology from the Avengers it would be a good way to introduce it and keep it simple for general audiences & tie-in the events of the 1st Avengers movie.

  10. I hate this idea. Iron Man already has three movies to his name and he is going to create Ultron? Let Ant-Man shine.

    • He will shine by having the first film of Phase 3

  11. I’d wait and see if we get a Pym cameo in Cap 2 first, that is what I still suspect Armie Hammer was doing on set with Edgar Wright conveniently being there too. If there is no cameo then I guess Stark is the obvious route to go.

    At the moment though I still do not believe, even though it is “confirmed” by Joss Whedon that Pym is not in A2, that Pym will appear in some capacity. On the studios part this would be a huge mistake if it came to pass, as it is such an easy way to launch the character and guarantee good revenue for the Ant-Man film. Maybe Pym and Stark will build it together if he is introduced in A2 using Starks armour skills and Pyms brain scans, or something like that. We shall see.

  12. I still believe Pym will be involved. If not, Shield may be involved. There can be a number of different ways they go about this.

  13. I think Marvel and DC are too rush-ed in making story script.
    DC forced making “Superman vs Batman” (lol)
    Marvel forced making “Ultron made by stark” (lol)

    • DC rushed to make Batman Vs Superman by coming up with the idea and basic plot ideas during the making of MOS?

      Marvel rushed the “Ultron made by Stark” idea by considering Ultron during the making of The Avengers and Joss writing the first draft last summer?

      Ok, if you insist. I take it you have no idea how writing movies works, do you? Doesn’t just happen overnight.

  14. Stark tries to incorporate some Chitauri tech. It goes awry. Voila! Ultron is born.

    • Doubtful. Stark isn’t going to incorporate anything he doesn’t completely understand, so the idea that it would go awry as “alien tech” is doubtful. Chances are Stark knows that something could go wrong and takes the chance (benefits outweigh the negatives) only to realize just how terrible the consequences are after the fact.

      All that said…I really hope Ultron isn’t solely a Stark creation. With so many people taking the obvious jump to that assumption, I’m hoping Whedon has a take on it that’s somewhat different. He’s pretty good for that…

      • “Stark isn’t going to incorporate anything he doesn’t completely understand”-Karyyk It’s called experimentation.

  15. If you watched the animated show EMH, it was noted that Hank Pym and Tony Stark (along with Mr Fantastic) build Ultron together after they build 42. So, it’s not weird if Tony Stark is behind this one, especially when you look back at the events in Iron Man 3. It’s also not weird if he’s joining forces with Banner to do so, remember that end-credit scene in IM3 that people said was useless? It showed that Banner is still in contact with Tony, now the question would be: why did he do that? It will make a good sense if it turns out he’s working on ‘something’ with him… hence the reason why Whedon said Age of Ultron will be more ‘personal’ to the core members.

    Plus, remember that the revelations of Hank Pym as the creator in the comic itself, was not until he got his own line, which further explains why Ant-Man is the next film after The Avengers Age of Ultron. So let’s not completely ruled out Pym in a possibility. Again, Whedon only said “He(Hank)’s NOT in this film” but never said that he never created Ultron.

    Let’s not jump to conclusion way ahead of time before any official statement is out… then again, remember that thing about Talia Al’gul in Dark Knight Rises? EVERYONE in the movie denied it, but look what happened.

    • Good point, well made :)

    • I agree with you! Although I never saw Whedon actually say that Pym won’t be in the movie. He said that he won’t be “in the mix”, when he was talking about creating Ultron.

      What he meant exactly is somewhat nebulous to me. Does that mean he doesn’t create Ultron? He’s not in the movie at all? He’s not an Avenger?

      Guess we’ll know sooner or later.

    • Be gone AverageMovieGoers…. we shall have no voices of reason here…. rabid arguments only please.


      Good game well played

  16. I just hope it doesn’t somehow involve extremis.

  17. My prediction: Tony Stark is retired from the super hero business. SHIELD steals his tech to create drones contolled by an AI. Insert social commentary about drone warfare here. The AI becomes Ultron and Tony has to come out of retirement to rejoin the Avengers and stop it from taking over the world.

  18. This is creazy, i belive in Marvel story but Stark making Ultron its just not 100% right maybe some i dnt know email or twitter from Pym to Tony with plans or something heh .. fingers crossed..

    • @TonyStark You stole my creation, you jerk!

      @DrH_Pym I’m sorry, who are you again? Cause I’m Iron Man lol

      @TonyStark Surprised you make fun of me there Stark, I bet I’m still “bigger” than you even when I shrink down with my tech

      @DrH_Pym Really? Pee-pee jokes? Get out of the playground and talk to me when you can hang with the older kids

      @TonyStark Surprised you can use Twitter, it uses 139 characters more than you could ever handle #MultipleIdentitiesBiotch

      • @DrH_Pym What’s that Mr.Insecurity issues? Janet’s not here yet maybe you should build another sex bot #JOCASTASASEXBOT

        @TonyStark New York

        @DrH_Pym Now that’s just uncalled for

  19. Remember in the Avengers how SHIELD was taking HYDRA equipment to create weapons? What if SHIELD followed through with this, adding Chitari technology and invented Ultron with the plans and guidance of SHIELD enployee Hank Pym. From what I’ve read Whedon never said Pym wasn’t in the movie, he only said Pym wasn’t the creator, however movies have lied before. Whedon said the aliens in Avengers 1 wasn’t the Skrulls and they were the Chitari which is just another name for them.

  20. I’m excited to see what they do here. I’m also glad that they aren’t following the comics ideas for idea. I’ve read those, I want the same characters in a new way, that’s exciting.

    Who cares who builds Ultron, the bottom line is we get Ultron in a live action movie!!! That is awesome!!

    I wonder if A.I.M is involved? They did upgrade the Iron Patriot armor after all.

    • You mean same characters in a new way as in completely removing them? Seems a bit contradictory to me.

      Guess you’re just lucky they chose YOUR favorite character to be the star because I bet you would be pissed if they had made Pym the billionaire and created IM instead of Stark.

      • Now you’re just being silly.

      • ” same characters in a new way as in completely removing them?”

        Hmmm how can they be removing Ultron when he’s the main focus of the movie.

        No wait, YOUR on about Pym, ah, Stark was on about Ultron. DOH!

        Can’t be removed from what your not in in the first place, besides he’s got his own film (well, shared with Lang) and everything…. chill and be happy.

        Ultron one month (Yeay!!!) Ant Man couple of months later (more Yeay!!!)


        Ant-man (Yeay!!!) couple of YEARS later, or NEVER, Ultron (boo sad now) :(

        Origin in certain respects is very important but not as important as character. As long as Ultron’s character remain the same surely that’s more important.

        Plus there’s precedent for Ultron taking over an Iron Man suit (if indeed that is what happens) as that has happened in the comics.

        Who’s to say that Pym doesn’t (unseen) create the Ultron AI but it gains form by taking over a remaining Iron Man suit that wasn’t destroyed at the end of IM3.

        Tony’s guilt for not destroying ALL his tech (bet he’s kept the best most powerful one too = HARD ASS NAILS ULTRON) so he gets back in the saddle.

        Thing is we don’t know precisely what Joss has got planned, be thankful that some of your favourite CHARACTERS are coming to life.

        As I said, as long as the character is true, origin is less important. (no I didn’t like the Mandarin twist because it changed CHARACTER, however I could see the reason for it and accepted it in the context of the story being told)

    • I don’t mind “in a new way”, as long as it has the “flavor” of the characters I’ve been reading for 40 years. I just don’t want Avengers 2 turning into the “Tony Stark/Iron Man” show. They need to start emphasizing OTHER characters for the eventuality that Tony Stark, or at least the RDJ version of him, is no longer in the picture. There are other scientific genius minds in the Marvel universe, like Pym, that can start to be utilized.

      • “There are other scientific genius minds in the Marvel universe, like Pym, that can start to be utilized.”

        That’s why the Ant-Man movie has been confirmed for a while.

  21. Could like hank pym to be in the movie and create ulton? Then tease his suiting up as ant-man for the first time in the end credits scene?

    • I know it said he wouldn’t be in it, just pitching ideas!

  22. @Bob i agree

  23. So tired of superhero movies…

    • Don’t watch them?

    • Lol! Then why are you here bub? :D

  24. man this is what I hate, they keep altering things and try to revolve everything around iron man just cause they have Robert downy jr

    • Hmm, novel idea though isn’t it? Have a major star that’s immensely popular with the masses and put him front and centre at every opportunity. Think it’ll catch on in Hollywood?

      Maybe next time, we’ll see Batman as the star instead of Alfred.

      • Dazz, you are totally on one today my friend lol

        Are you working out a little angst and putting a big old smile on my face at the same time reading your various posts :)

        Two birds, one stone… never a wasted effort

  25. How about Hammer, A.I.M., Red Skull, or Hydra creating Ultron? If you have Winter Soldier in Cap2 then why couldn’t one of those bad guys create Ultron? Maybe it’s a combo between Dark Shield and all of the above?

  26. Logical sense or not, if Pym is not involved (and later becomes Ant-man, wait……Giant-Man just for Goldi) then that = LAME in my book and Whedon/Marvel get a big fat “F”.

    (remember I said “IF” so I’m leavin’ the door open)

  27. Although it might make sense to have Stark build Ultron in the MCU, both storywise and $$$-wise, I’m a bit (lot) underwhelmed. I mean, yet another storyline that circles around Tony Stark… whoopee…

    It would also have made sense to introduce Hank Pym in Avengers 2, since not a lot of people are familiar with the character (other than comic book fans). If they wanted to make some money with the OTHER movies they are putting out, maybe they should think about introducing the characters, or at least, tease them in, before their actual movie comes out.

    • You act like all these stories revolve around Tony Stark/Iron Man. There’s no argument for the Iron Man films since those are his films. In what other film has the story revolved around him? The Avengers didn’t.

      For all the talk that people do online, we forget that we’re a huge minority in the grand scheme of the movie audience. Clearly, Iron Man 3′s box office shows that people love them some Iron Man on repeat.

      • As do I +1,000,000

        I keep seeing all this crap about everything revolving around iron man? would they say the same thing about thor if it turned out he created him?

    • +1

      • I assume the +1 is for Adrian’s comment, in which case I agree.

        +1 from me too Adrian.

        • Nope. +1 To Mary Jane.

  28. who’s the leader of the Kree Empire that’s going to get featured in the Guardians of the Galaxy film?

    • Ronan The Accuser? Benicio del Toro is playing him.

      • Accuser is in the film but del Toro isn’t playing him. He’s playing the collector

        • Crap, you’re right. Lee Pace?

          • Yup

  29. While it is disappointing a bit that Hank Pym won’t be in Avengers 2 and won’t be creating Ultron,it is necessary some what that they have Tony Stark create Ultron because that not everyone who has seen and loved the movies have even read a single comic. It still would be interesting. I at least hope they let keep that Hank Pym creates Vision. I also hope they put Falcon as a possilbe 9th member for Avengers 2 and definatley a roll in Avengers 3. Avengers 3 is where they should have several members. The roster could be Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Quicksilver, Scarlett Witch, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Ant Man, Falcon, War Machine, Winter Soldier, and maybe Agent 13. Maybe it’s too much but please put Falcon and War Machine somewhere in there at least.