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SK47 says:

To Dean

Correct, I understand that as well, which is why I only take in what the films are giving us and not think about the tangibles. Which is also why the use of Time-Travel in stories are great but also can be too complicated and bring about discussion from people that goes to the extreme.

Still, T3 RULES!
“Desire is irrelevant, I am a Machine!”

dean says:

To SK47

mmmm i thought T3 Was a descent action movie but had bad story and awful acting including arnolds performance didnt act like he did in T1 and T2.

Rob Keyes says:

For those curious about the Song in this trailer…

It’s called “The Day the World Went Away” by Nine Inch Nails.

One of their songs was featured in that awesome trailer for Serenity if anyone remembers that too.

SK47 says:

To Dean,
I wouldn’t say the acting was terrible, Stahl and Danes are two excellant actors out there, but I agree that they put in too many “comedic” moments for Arnolds T800 model, even though they were little but it was like a Michael Bay-type of comedy. Maybe Warner Bros. wanted it that way, who knows?
Decent action, come on dude, I suggest watching this in on a 1080p LCD screen. I just did and, WOW! That whole crane chase and the spx look amazing! Overkill!

dean says:

okay man, i agree the action was good and the chase was awsum but cannot be compared to T2 in anyway u remember the end of it i nearly cryed watchin the T800 being lowerd into the lava lol. Nick stahl and Claire danes didn not suit their parts, edward furlong was so much better. i do have a 1080 40″ TV watch transformers and The Dark Knight now thats awsum. hehe

Rob Keyes says:

I thought T3 was very poor as the third installment to the franchise. Worst villain ever in my opinion. The franchise would be better off had that not been made since the TV show and the new movies are completely ignoring it.

If all there is to cheer about are some action scenes (that have all been done before)…

dean says:

yo rob keys

hey i completly agree man T3 was terrible and only reliied on its action set pieces, to me what makes a great movie is story characters and the director james cameron was born to make the terminator movies.

SK47 says:

yeah, Transformers on 1080 is pretty sic. And yeah, I cryed too! Me being a kid at that time watching that, that was the most heart wrenching thing ever!!!!

And to Rob, to me there is more to cheer about in T3 than just the action scenes. I really liked the ideas put in the third instalment, like how Arnold’s T800 model (considered obsolete in the future timeline) was brought for one final mission to kill Connor.
They capture that model and re-program the model, by Kate Brewster, to be sent back, still keeping its previous mission objectives of killing Connor and to stop the TX from killing all of John’s Lts and Sgts, etc.

dean says:

But the t3 story line was almost exactly the same as t2 but made a whole lot worse, i didnt feel for the character like i did in T2 or T1 i didnt care bout the characters in T3 like when the T850 got crushed i just didnt feel like i did at the end of T2 coz their characters are so plain and boring.

Andy S says:

Sweeeet trailer!!! I am definitely looking forward to this movie now! Bale seems to have the golden touch on any project he comes into lately.

John "Kahless" Taylor says:

McG, your director rating has gone from totally disgusting to acceptable. If the movie is as good as the trailer, you will get elevated to Cameron-esque. :-)

dean says:

Guys be careful dont speak too soon this guy aint no James Cameron.

SK47 says:

I attribute the problem you have with a connection to the characters because of pacing of the film! T3’s pacing moves rapidly while T2’s took it’s time for us to connect with them. But, we already know that John survives right. T3, the original mission directive for the TX is to smoke out John’s lieutenants. When she tastes John’s blood, notice her face? Shock! Then the primary focus is to kill Connor and that turns into this huge thing. When Arnold says “We will meet again”, for me it was like saying latez to a work colleauge at the end of the day. You know you’ll see them tomorrow. So the way I see T3 is purely as the bridging of these characters when Skynet launches the assault.

Dude, this T3 thing has gone on far enough. Yes I agree that compared to T1 & T2, T3 is the weakest installment but that does not mean it should be left in the dust. All I have to say are two things–
1) Give T3 some slack
and
2) Real men don’t cry! Only at the end of Terminator 2: Judgement Day!

dean says:

Haha okay man i respect that you have respect for that particular film, but my mind cant be changed so we’ll end it at that, i see your a big terminator fan then?

SK47 says:

Dean, when you cry a river at the end of seeing Arnold put into the lava (even to this day), and put up gunnshat when Arnold goes postal on the LAPD station in T1, you know ur a Terminator fan!

“desire is irrelevant, i am a machine!” WHUT!

dean says:

Ha ha yeah totally!! i hope they add the theme music from T2 the bit were he pulls the iron bar from his chest, it has it throughout the film but i dont wot the themes called,just loved that music from the movie.

SK47 says:

I liked the musical cue when Sarah was shooting at the T1000 with her shotgun! It was short but great for the moment!

Matt says:

the main problem i had w/ t3 besides all of the above mentioned, is that the movie just contradicts the theme of the first two films: the future is not set,there is no fate but what you make for yourself, but t3 then states that judgement day is innevitable(misspelled) contradicting the first two

dean says:

Thats why i had a big problem with T3 it changed the vital points of T2, which got me very confused with the storyline and felt less interested in the movie.

SK47 says:

It could mean that in T1 & T2, the humans had hoped that they were in charge of fate. Fate does not determine us. Then in T3, Skynet, and Arnold just flat out states that no, you cannot make your own fate. Fate is determined.

But anyways, not to knock on Elfman but why couldn’t they use the original guy for the score? Anyone remember his name?

dean says:

Speak soon guys. “I’ll be back”

Matt says:

another problem that i just thought of w/ t3 was that the villiant, the tx, didnt seem as menacing as the t1000 or the the first terminator was.

bigDOG says:

HOLY S**T!!!!!! If this movie is as epic as the Trailers make it look, then I have a new favorite movie. Christian Bale, hot head or not, is absolutely amazing.

Adrian says:

Bravo Mister McG! Looks like he’s moving from top 10 unfavoriteable director’s list to the top 10 best action directors.

Dr Thriller says:

Applaudes McG and his team! It looks like a masterpiece on it’s trailers. I mean, it can’t be as good as the first two ones in reality, or can it?

Amazing trailer. They seem to have given it such amazing tone from my view as a hardcore fan of the first to movies

By-Tor says:

Why are John and Kate looking at Scorponok’s tail from Transformers, crossover? ;) But seriously, I’ll probably watch this and ROTF on the same day, I can’t wait!

Ken J says:

OK, a few of you know I’m kind of an ass when it comes to anything Terminator, very critical of T3, and very skeptical of this one (but always intended to watch it simply because it’s Terminator) but this trailer…

OH…MY…GOD…

Am I actually EXCITED over another Terminator movie???

Either that or they got someone who is like a genius at trailer making, but I was like “omg, holy crap” through the entire thing.

This better be good…

No kidding. Imagine sitting through that trailer in an auditorium sized movie screen. wowza!!!!

Rob Keyes says:

Ken J,

It had the same effect on me :)

dean says:

To Ken J

Hey man i dont blame you one bit, i lost all hope in the Terminator franchise after watching Terminator 3 the disaster. After watching the trailer for Salvation my hope have been risen quiet abit, but i cant help to remain causous. McG hasnt proven to be a Great film Director yet!! I dont see why they shud make another Terminator movie if your not guna improve upon T2, and i must say thats almost impossible, but you never know!!!!!

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