Schwarzenegger Compares ‘Terminator: Genesis’ to ‘T2′; Promises ‘Hardcore’ Action

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James Cameron’s Terminator 2: Judgement Day was a $102 million sequel to the director’s semi-cult 1984 sci-fi/horror film; it proved to be an unabashed success, drawing critical raves for its mix of intelligence, popcorn entertainment and cutting-edge CGI effects – with a half-billion dollar worldwide gross and four Oscars to show for its efforts. T2 set a benchmark for the franchise that subsequent installments have simply been unable to reach (financially and/or critically), though in 2015 the series will be rebooted – in the hope of either bucking that trend or, at the very least, revitalizing the brand.

Filming on the Terminator reboot – currently known by the placeholder title Terminator: Genesis – begins in New Orleans next month, with a cast that is composed primarily of newcomers to the series. That is, with the obvious exception of Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is back reprising his career-defining role as an unstoppable killing machine (over ten years after his last time in the saddle, on Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines).

Schwarzenegger’s next starring vehicle, Sabotage, opens in theaters at the end of this month, so at that film’s press day he addressed some questions about Genesis. Concrete plot details – crafted by Laeta Kalogridis (Shutter Island) and Patrick Lussier (Drive Angry) – are still being kept under lock and key. However, the addition of fan-favorite character actor J.K. Simmons (Spider-Man) to the Terminator reboot’s cast may’ve shed more light on the film’s story – including, how the movie accounts for Schwarzenegger’s robotic character being significantly older-looking now.

Arnold, for his money, is just happy to still be playing his Terminator role some 30 years after the original installment was released, judging by comments he made while being interviewed by Collider (at the press day for Sabotage):

“I think that it’s just so wild to have a franchise that has been around for that long, and then after 30 years, to get asked again to be the only character in a movie that is the same character is unheard of, in movie history.  You always switch out, like with James Bond and Batman.  They have new characters there.  But, not here.  That, to me, is an extraordinary situation and a great opportunity.  Of course, I was honored when I was asked to come back and play the character with Sarah Connor…”

A lot has changed in the pop culture landscape since Arnold’s heyday in the 1980s and first half of the ’90s, though – as he reminded ColliderTerminator is just one of three popular intellectual properties from that time period that he’s lined up to revisit in the new few years. That’s in addition to the developing Twins sequel Triplets and the long-awaited third Conan installment, The Legend of Conan. (Assuming you don’t count the 2011 Conan the Barbarian reboot – because, really, why would you?)

terminator 5 official title Schwarzenegger Compares Terminator: Genesis to T2; Promises Hardcore Action

Nowadays, expensive tentpole installments tend to veer away from the grisly violence that pervaded in action movies during the 1980s and early ’90s – whether we’re talking about Indiana Jones‘ PG-13 Rated antics or Arnold’s tendency for killing baddies in an R-Rated fashion, back then. Hence, Schwarzenegger couldn’t promise Collider that Genesis will be Rated R, nor that it will be released under its current title (you may recall that Sabotage was originally titled Ten, then Breacher during pre-production).

That said, Arnold did promise that the Terminator reboot will feel like a chip off the same block as T2:

“…But [the Terminator reboot] is going to have the exact same feel.  The way it reads, it has the same feel of Terminator 2.  It’s big.  There’s hardcore action and it has some really great visual effects in there, but not over the top.  It’s not a Thor type of movie, even though it’s the same director.  It has good special effects, but just enough to say, “Wow, where did that come from?  How did they do that?”

Indeed, as Arnold pointed out, Genesis director Alan Taylor made his name in the world of blockbusters last year by directing Thor: The Dark World, which is very much a big and shiny adventure that’s geared more towards general audiences. The hope is that with the Terminator reboot, Taylor will combine his newly-gained understanding of large-budget moviemaking with the more adult tone of his past TV directorial work – on HBO shows like Deadwood, The Sopranos, and Game of Thrones – in order to craft a genre tentpole/reboot that falls closer to being a T2 kind of beast.

What’s your outlook for Terminator: Genesis, at this stage? Are you hopeful that this reboot could, in fact, be a return to form for the franchise?


Terminator: Genesis opens in U.S. theaters on July 1st, 2015.

Source: Collider

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  1. Well, if this movie is as good as T2 like Arnold says it is , then it will worth checking it out in a cinema. But it craps horribly like Terminator 3, then this franchise is over.

    • Agreed 1000+ I’ve been waiting for soo long to have a terminator movie the caliber of T2, I want that seem feeling I got with watching T2 in theatres.

    • I highly doubt we will see anything that would be on par with Terminator 2… ever… That movie pretty much got EVERY aspect of movie making right, it’s probably as close to perfect as we can get in my opinion. The only other movie that comes close in my opinion is Aliens…

  2. The main problem I have with his comments aren’t about the action, but the lack of any mention about the emotional aspects of T2 that might be in this new film. That was really what lifted T2 up above the standard action film, aside from the spectacular action and SFX.

    • @Mike

      Absolutely. Anyone who refers to T2 as simply an “Action movie” doesn’t truly appreciate it for what it is. It is so much more than just action. There’s probably more symbolism through-out that movie than most art-house flicks, the characterizations of everyone is more well-done than many academy award winning dramas, there’s more attention to detail in that movie than in any other movie I’ve seen, and it just had such a great lasting effect on people, I’ve seen a whole lot of movies, and I can honestly say not a single movie have stayed with me the way Terminator 2 has. I’ve LITERALLY (and yes, I’m using that word correctly, I actually mean literally) seen T2 at least 25 times, and I never get sick of it. If someone came to my house and was like “Man, I’m bored, let’s watch a movie” and he/she has not seen T2 yet, I will grab the Blu-ray in a heartbeat and watch it one more time, GLADLY.

      I honestly think the only reason T2 didn’t win Best Picture is simply the academy’s reluctance to give that to something labeled as an “action movie.” It’s almost like a movie has to be classified as a drama in order to win that, and sometimes I think that limits their scope quite a bit…

      And I know I can’t be the only one who feels this way, I still remember watching this movie in the movie theaters. Even though that was what, 23 years ago? I cannot get it out of my head how the audience cheered and gasped at times during the movie as if they were watching a real event unfold in front of them. I don’t think I’ve experienced that in any other movie yet. Literally the entire theater erupted in applause and cheer when the T-800 woke back up and pulled the metal rod out of his chest. Some of you might think you would be annoyed at this, but it really did bring out a lot of emotion to see him come back from that.

      • Ken J.

        You’re absolutelly right!
        I saw it at least as many times as you. Shown it to my kids as a lesson of life!
        It has it all!
        The only one that compares is Conan the barbarian!

  3. I call B.S. on that one. Arnold will say anything to save the franchise it wouldn’t surprise me if he was paid to do so.

  4. How will they explain an aging Terminator?

    • Its a new model, the T-Old-800.

    • Living (and aging) tissue over a metal endoskeleton. ;)

    • Going from the lore just from the movies, it’s an infiltration unit…

      Sometimes it takes a while to infiltrate LOL

      Taking lore from the series, “Long con” or placement missions could take any number of years until they are required to act, so you wouldn’t want to draw unwanted attention to the massive dude big Jonnie working in the nuclear facility for 20 years and hasnt aged a day.

      Although given the number of forums I’ve seen where this question is asked, I wouldn’t be surprised if that was just a troll, seeing as be a science fiction movie, they can come up with millions of reasons for it.

  5. I’ll give the new terminator flick a watch on Netflix.

  6. I wouldn’t believe anything that Arnold says about new movie project. So far he hasn’t panned out on any of his post-governor films. But he keeps getting stuff because he’s Arnold. I respect the hell out of his bodybuilding stuff and that he keeps involved in it. But I’m not so sure that anyone really is clamoring for any of his legendary films to be rebooted/remade like Terminator and Conan.

  7. I’ll wait to rent it on dvd.

  8. What the hell happened to the salvation set? I think those should have been finished first.

    • Agreed.

      That was supposed to be a new trilogy showing the future and the rise of John Connor against the machines but after one movie, they gave up and I have no idea why.

      If they were going the “lets visit the first two movies and slightly change things” route, they could’ve at least finished the second trilogy first, had John die at the end and then explain this soft reboot by saying “we need to change the future by revisiting the events that still gave us John’s death and hoping that will save humanity”.

    • Cool and have terminators invade Pandora!!!

  9. So looking forward to yet another terminator movie, being a big Arnie fan all my life and just hoping the big guy can pull of the impossible off and give his fans a movie they will never.
    I’ll Be Back

  10. Terminator Salvation was my last hope. Finally we took Terminator into new territory, and what happens? The Charlie Angel’s director directed a pretty average action movie that hardly elaborated the concept and ideas that James Cameron created. I was also disappointed by the lack of memorable characters, and considering the story just got bigger I expected there to be a lot of them. But McG is obviously no Joss Whedon, so I’m probably asking for too much. Unlike Salvation, T3 at least had some awesome action sequences, but like Salvation the heart was gone also.

    • You say McG is no Joss Whedon but lets be honest, Whedon isn’t that great either.

      I’d say if I compared the things they’ve created/directed, I haven’t liked anything Whedon’s done but I have liked Terminator Salvation.

  11. how does he know it has good visuals when they (probably) just started filming ?

    this just seems like he got paid to promote the movie (like all actors), after all, he isn’t going to bad mouth a movie he stars in =.=

  12. Dont believe the guy anymore. He has given some bad movies since T3 and his so called comeback. He is still trying to comeback. Respect him for his bodybuilding days and his time under the sun in the early 90s but will wait for the trailer to make up my mind on this one. Not excited or even curious right now.

  13. Stallone did Rocky for thirty years and Rambo going on 26. It’s certainly been done before, but the question is always why? There was nothing more that needed to be said after the definitive T2.

  14. Two things:

    1. Arnie said the same crap about T3.

    2. We DON’T NEED Arnie for a successful, believable Terminator film. There are other T-800′s from the assembly line that do NOT look like Arnie or have an Austrian accent. Let’s increase the believability here!

  15. You’ve gotta love Ahnold tho, and his penchant for self-promotion. I just read his quotes above out loud in as severe an Ahnold accent as I can make it, and it reads hysterically. All that was missing was for him to say it’s going to be “fantaaastic!”

  16. I’ve heard through someone who should know that they have a good script and it has more of a James Cameron feel to it than T3 or T:Salvation. Plus, the more Game of Thrones I watch the more I believe Emilia Clarke will make a good Sarah Connor, no matter which way this timeline goes with the character.

  17. I want the Terminater to fight a villain like the one in T2 movie.I want Terminater action figure toys for the movie.

  18. Suddenly finding myself more interested in the King Conan reboot than whatever is happening with this movie. A simple retelling of events which is what Terminator is famous for but the little details like the detective are kind of confusing and really unnecessary. Why are they trying to make this like an X-Men movie?

  19. Is Hollywood really this stuck for material, and ideas? Rebooting another 80′s classic when they haven’t even concluded the original storyline? Terminator Salvation basically sets up a final battle between Humans, and Skynet. When is that movie coming out? It’s just like what Lester from GTA V said. “Movies today are nothing but remakes, superheros, or dumb romantic comedies”.

    • I think you’ll find that’s how storytelling has always worked – building upon existing ideas/stories. Terminator 1 is almost a carbon copy of SOLDIER (1964) by Harlan Ellison which you can watch on YouTube for free.

  20. It wouldn’t surprise me if they tie in Predator to Terminator to explain how they harvest the outer skins for the endoskeletons.