‘Terminator: Genesis’ Plot Rumors: More Original Characters Returning?

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[WARNING: This article contains potential SPOILERS for Terminator: Genesis.]


We’re on the edge of the summer blockbuster season (which seems to start earlier and earlier every year), and as the big releases of 2014 start rolling into theaters, as always we look ahead to what 2015 has in store. One of biggest question marks of that tent-pole-packed year is the quasi-reboot known unofficially as Terminator: Genesis.

After a long development period, the main cast has come together in just the last few months, with Game of Thrones star Emilia Clarke set to play a young Sarah Connor, Die Hard 5′s Jai Courtney cast as Kyle Reese, and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes star Jason Clarke circling the role of John Connor. The film is set to begin production in the first quarter of 2014, with director Alan Tayor (Thor 2) at the helm.

We know the rough outline of the plot by now: the script by Laeta Kalogridis (Bionic Woman) and Patrick Lussier (Drive Angry) is said to feature Arnold Schwarzenegger, reprising his iconic role as young Sarah’s protector, and it shifts the timeline further into the past. Thanks to the time travel mechanics of the franchise’s premise, almost anything is possible… but all we have to go on are rumors.

Now, a potential SPOILER-HEAVY report from Moviehole gives us a slew of possible plot details about Terminator: Genesis. So if you’d rather not know, go back now.

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None of this information comes from an official source, and comes from a source described as “really reputable,” but as always, take all of this with several grains of salt.

According to the source, Terminator: Genesis will swing back and forth between 1984 (setting of The Terminator), 1991 (Terminator 2: Judgement Day), and “other important and influential time periods in the life of the Connor family.” Events of the new film will start with the first film:

The ‘Terminator’ from the future will arrive on earth, attack some punks (keen to see who they get to play ‘Bill Paxton’), and then slaughter his way through a bunch of Sarah Connors’ – until he finds the correct target.

Kyle Reese supposedly follows the Terminator back in time (again), but Reese and Sarah will apparently be joined by other characters from James Cameron’s original entry:

And all the characters that appeared in the Cameron original, like Detective Hal Vukovich (played by Lance Henriksen in the original), Lieutenant Ed Traxler (played by Paul Winfield way back when), Sarah’s roomie Ginger (Bess Motta in the ’84 film) and, yep, even Pugsley the Iguana, return. So, yep, we’ll likely get to see Schwarzenegger back in the leather jacket and cool sunglasses he wore in the original.

We’re warned that this time around, events will not play out exactly as they in the first Terminator film. Beyond running over the events of the original, however, key moments in the first sequel will be included as well, such as young John Connor being hunted by the liquid-metal T-1000 (played by Robert Patrick), and the T-1000 murdering John’s foster parents.

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From there, we’ll be going back even further in time, to events before the first film, “such as scenes with young Sarah and her parents.” And that’s it for details which had not been previously reported. We had already surmised that this could be the case, given a report from last year which stated Schwarzenegger’s return saw him “as a Terminator robot in a time-spanning story that sees him tasked to protect Sarah Connor as she grows up.” 

The notion of jumping around the key moments from the first two films sounds like a way to justify spinning the fifth film into a possibly trilogy, to be followed by a TV series. From the sound of these plot details – which again may amount to mere speculation – this film could end up balancing aspects of a prequel and a reboot in fairly novel way.

The “reputable” source for this information stressed to think of Terminator 5 less in the style of J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek re-launch and more along the lines of Back to the Future Part 2, revisiting original moments and either watching them or preventing them – or even changing certain things to ensure the possibility for a fresh reboot.

Expect more plot details to emerge, either confirming or denying any of this, as the film’s production begins.


The Terminator reboot is slated for a July 1st, 2015 release.

Source: Moviehole

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  1. I’m definitely interested…just curious to see how they are going to utilize the aged but still tough-looking Arnold in the film. Will he play himself, or will they freshen him up a bit via CGI makeup?

    Also hoping the film is dark and serious…not campy in the least.

    • HEAR HEAR!!! I second this! Down with the campy humor!!!!

      • I third it. Humor does not do much to enhance many films that are supposed to have serious, dark, or dramatic overtones. I will be watching this on Netflix, and hope it does well.

        • And what are some examples?

    • I’m down with anything Terminator, the last 2 sucked but there is so much material here that I think a good trilogy can still come out of this. Yay optimism!

  2. The spoiler news sounds phony. How in the world can Schwarzenneger reprise the same role?! He is way too long in the tooth for that

    • Could be the same role, but just a different look, or they could freshen him up a bit with CGI. It’s been done before with other actors, like Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy.

      • A Terminator disguised as a senior citizen… I like it.

  3. Dont get me wrong though. Schwarzenneger has akways been one of my favorite action stars. Made some great films, True Lies, 6th day
    Terminator, Conan

    • I’m really waiting for him to do Legend of Conan! I think he would make a great aged barbarian king! I’m hoping that will be his next film. With each new movie, though, it seems that one is getting pushed back and back.

  4. Arnold could play the scientist who invented the terminator

    • Maybe not a scientist, but he could play a human soldier that the terminator was modeled from.

  5. So it will be like a Terminator version of the Friday The 13th remake.

  6. just bring back the Sarah Connor chronicles. That was much more intersting than this.

    • Sadly, even with the acting and beauty of Lena Headey and Summer Glau, that show just fell entirely flat for me. I didn’t enjoy it at all, with the exception of those two, of course.

  7. It’ll be hard to think of as Back to the future 2 for the simple reason that aside from the part of Marty’s girlfriend being recast between films & Crispin Glover being avoided like the plague for the sequel(s)& even using a lawsuit generating life mask of him on another actor, BTTF 2 featured all of the same actors in all the key roles. How strange will it be (Assuming that this report is accurate of course) to see pivotal moments from the first two films replayed with entirely new actors with the sole exception of Schwarzenegger? It’s not a full on reboot, sequel, prequel, or remake while owing something to them all & while it’ll be great if they can make it work it won’t be as powerful as it would be if through the magic of special effects we were revisiting the original events with the original actors. I think that they should establish the new faces as alternate timeline Kyle Reese’s, Sarah Connor’s & John Connor’s because then there’d still be the possibility (no matter how remote) of us seeing Linda Hamilton & Michael Biehn back as older versions of their earlier characters from yet another alternate timeline. It’s a tangled web they’ve woven to be sure but time travel is tricky business.

  8. This will not be good avoiding the war as usual

  9. @Torrizos.

    Exactly right. Whilst Terminator Salvation was a terrible movie at least it tried to further the story on. So much there to tell from the future war but as usual too much risk in tell new stories so we end up with rehash of old ones.

    This project will fail for sure.

  10. Gawd. Just end this series already.

    This is nothing more than a cash grab, pure and simple.

    • What film isn’t made to make money?!

      They all are, else they wouldn’t be made.

      • Yep… cash grabbing is what we all do. :)

      • “Nothing but a cash grab.”

        “If you don’t like it, don’t watch.”

        “If you’re so smart, why don’t you write something?”

        I long for a day when I can go online and not see these phrases or some form of them 10-20 times. :)

  11. So if I’m understanding this, the other movies may or may not make it into the T continuity?

    If Kyle Reese is getting rebooted and he’s going back further in time, that could explain why he’s in love with Sarah but then this would be his first of “two” trips.

    Time travel, so fun, yet so confusing.

  12. 1. this film maybe watchable because alan traylor is directing it and if we watch it
    as reading a oneshot graphic novel it maybe good.
    2. terminator salvation ended skynet and any stories beyond that.
    3. the premise of terminator genesis goes beyond ridiculum, but if traylor helming
    it and lance,arnold and paul winfield in it along with jason clarke and jai in it, we could
    be in for one thor 2 like ride.

    • Terminator Salvation did not end Skynet. The end of the movie was John Connor about to take command of the resistance and lead the rebels to victory.

      There is plenty of room for stories to follow that film.

      • Not since the producers sold the franchise off… future war is dead (for now). Plus what was so effective of T1 and T2 was being in the present day and having a foe from the future that was impossible to handle with inferior present day technology.

  13. Sorry but the Terminator storyline is so stale predictable. How many times do we need to see this play out? The Matrix trilogy has shown us what the next step in artificial intelligence looks like. Movie watchers are far beyond this tired script.

  14. Reese was under the impression the time machine was destroyed after he was sent through. How about explaining that? There was only one machine and Skynet had it. He says so in the original film!

  15. How does James Cameron get out of his obligation of AVatar and make another movie?
    Come back to direct Terminator, that’s how…

  16. It sounds like a good time paradox plot. Im in.

  17. We’ll see if it’s real, but it definitely sounds cool!

  18. I read it twice and I don’t get the plot at all.

  19. Great Scott! It does look like a nostalgic, cash-grabbing clusterf#$%.

    I want the post- apocalyptic prequel where we get the resistance valiantly facing off against overwhelming odds and thousands of T-800s (see T2 flashback) as they sacrifice everything in the race to send Kyle Reese back in time at the end.

    Throw the twist in at the end with Skynet adjusting strategy if you want to trilogize it. Introduce the T900 “Biff” model for all I care at that point.

  20. This premise fails for me mainly because I am tired of Schwarzenegger. It was established in the first film that not all of the 800 series look the same. It would be a dumb move for infiltrators to all look like Arnie. I just wish the filmmakers would be bold enough not to use him or his Austrian accent. It pulls me out of the experience now because it has been done to death. Let’s see the future war and T-800′s, with skin and without, out in the rubble kicking arse!

  21. Only major concern for me – aside from the horrible campy humour – Arnie needs to bulk the heck up! If Sly can do it and MAINTAIN it – then surely THE Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 T-800 shouldn’t look as if he was the only unit rejected on the day he was pieced together.

  22. this is the problem with reboots. The rising of skynet and time travel in an apocalyptic future could be a backdrop of all sorts of cool stories. But apparently during the rise of the robots there were only 2 people on the entire planet doing something worth watching. Kyle reese and Sarah Conor.
    Building a robot to strike fear into the hearts of men?- better make him look like a 60 year old body builder.

    All a good terminator movie needs (what salvation lacked) is an EFFIN TERMINATOR, that’s hunting the main protagonist. If you keep using characters we already KNOW survive from a 1980′s movie it kind of ruins the suspense. They had a chance to actually include a bit of character development in Salvation, but the ditched the ending with substance for a cgi arnold and hollywood feel good ending.

    Also still waiting for explanation of the HUGE plot whole inherent in any time travel plot… “oh our mission to send a robot back in time to kill a baby failed?- heaven forbid we send another one back even further before kyle gets there”

  23. at first, they talked about reboot, and about bringing the original cast. some speculate that even Linda Hamilton will be coming back. but seriously, after seeing the story and the casting, am I the only one who’s getting the feeling that this movie at it best would be horrible?

  24. “The Terminator from the future will arrive on earth”

    Are they aliens now?

    I’m excited for a new film and this does sound interesting. Time travel movies can be a lot of fun and if these rumors are true there will be a lot of it. Hopefully it won’t confuse to much and we get a story worthy of forgetting all we’ve seen so far.

  25. Ok, Lets just say that they reboot this trilogy. 25-30 years from now will they reboot the reboot?? LOL.

  26. So they are copying ideas from hishe about terminator being like Back to the Future


  27. No reason we have to see this as a reboot. Consider the ending of the original movie (spoiler warning for a 30 year old movie here), where we learn that Kyle Reese is the father of John Connor. In the second movie we learn that sky net was built from tech taken from the original Terminator. Most people interpret this as being a closed loop paradox where in neither John nor the Terminators could have existed without creating themselves, but an alternate explanation exists: When the original John Connor and Skynet sent Kyle Reese and the Terminator into the past they didn’t end up creating themselves, but replacing themselves.

    If we accept that it happened once (and we are already accepting time travelling murderbots), then perhaps it has happened many many times; in which case every version of Terminator can coexist together as part of the same franchise because changes to the past from repeated time travel have changed the future. Any inconsistencies can be explained by time travel shenanigans and since that is the basic premise of the movies in the first place, we don’t have to call this one a reboot afterall.

  28. I’ve always wanted a stretch of a Terminator movie that show them capturing and reprogramming a cyborg. Wonder if we will get that from the reboot

  29. In one Darkhorse comic Reese didn’t die. The military got him after they saw his video and realized he could not have known about skynet unless he was telling the truth. I think this mashup as stated would be a mess. Arnie is waaay to old to play the T-800. Start fresh or make him human.