Terminator 5 May Go To London… If It Goes Anywhere

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Two days ago, Screen Rant reported on one of the newest TV Spots for Terminator Salvation. That commercial showed off the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger’s face appeared in the movie in a short scene as the T-800 killing machine.

Why is that significant?

Well, my thoughts were that the folks behind the movie were getting desperate to have people come see the movie in theaters now that it has been out for several weeks in North America and had not lived up even close to where they expected it to be in terms of box office numbers. What does that mean for its potential sequel?


The film had received mostly negative reviews from critics everywhere, the worst out of the franchise. Its opening weekend was weak, coming second to the Night at the Museum sequel and not even coming close to other May openers such as Star Trek, Wolverine and Pixar’s Up. Since then, it dropped off significantly and it continues to do so with big movies opening weekly during the busy summer season. This is especially bad since they went for the PG-13 rating on the film to open it up to the younger movie-going audiences.

With poor reception and poor numbers, the $200 million production budget no longer seems like a good investment. Worse, the franchise is no longer as strong as once thought. Is it the brand name that’s not selling as much? Or could it be that Terminator needs the Governator as the lead?

McG’s Terminator Salvation was supposed to be one of the biggest movies of the year and more than that, it was supposed to be the start of a whole new trilogy of films. Leading up to the release of this fourth installment, there was plenty of talk of ideas for the sequel to Salvation, including having Robert Patrick back for a role in it and everything looked great.

Now, not so much. Will there even be a sequel to Salvation? If there is, will the same creative team be there to make it? Will they pay Christian Bale a ton of money to do it and will McG again direct?

Continue to Page 2 for more on this and and where the sequel will take place…

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terminator 5 christian bale as john connor Terminator 5 May Go To London… If It Goes Anywhere
Will Christian Bale play John Connor in Terminator 5?

For the production of this film, Bale’s demands to alter the script to give him much more screen time could have been the downfall of the movie. He didn’t exactly sell this movie either by just looking at the numbers so far. In the movie, his character was one-dimensional and we all know about the on-set tirade. The altered script took away from what could have been an interesting plot with the Marcus Wright and Kyle Reese characters.

Hindsight is 20/20 and we don’t know definitively what the reason was for the movie’s poor performance. So, let’s look forward instead.

About a month ago, prior to the release of Terminator Salvation, Screen Rant reported on McG’s thoughts of where the sequel would likely go. This is what was said:

“I strongly suspect the next movie is going to take place in a [pre-Judgment Day] 2011… John Connor is going to travel back in time and he’s going to have to galvanize the [sic] militaries of the world for an impending Skynet invasion. They’ve figured out time travel to the degree where they can send more than one naked entity. So you’re going to have hunter killers and transports and harvesters and everything arriving in our time and Connor fighting back with conventional military warfare, which I think is going to be f***ing awesome. I also think he’s going to meet a scientist that’s going to look a lot like present-day Robert Patrick [who famously played the T-1000 in Terminator 2], talking about stem-cell research and how we can all live as idealized, younger versions of ourselves.”

So, the plan is to return to the classic Terminator go back in time plot device and bring what we saw in the future to present day. I can see why they want to do this as it worked for the first three films and it’s interesting to see what futuristic science fiction elements are like when thrown into the modern present day.

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Hunter Killers will probably destroy this beautiful scene…

Well, early this morning we heard more on that front. According the Bleeding Cool, their “industry sources” have informed them that the next Terminator installment will in fact see John Connor and the resistance travel back time to London, England. This falls in line with what we heard in the past but we’ll need to wait to see if the next project is greenlit before getting deep into it.

If this happens, expect many tourist attractions to explode.

What do you think of a Terminator 5 and another time travel story?

Source: Bleeding Cool

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  1. @ Mike.
    Sorry about your confusion but model 101 is the T-101. In T2 arnold mentioned himself cyberdyne systems 101. It seems to me you’re mixing whatever i say up still. dont tell me it has somthing to do with James Cameron not directing T3 or Salvation. Cause thats all i hear from whiners is a terminator movie is no movie unless its directed by James Cameron. Im thru argueing with ya. this conversation is over.

  2. WOW chris, the model number is the look of the exterior skin, the T-### is the type of endoskeleton. T-800 is Arnold’s endoskeleton type, model 101 is what makes him appear like Arnold. So technically there should be a Cyberdyne Systems Model 100 that would be technically identical since it’s still a T-800, but would have a different face. Then there could be a Model 99, Model 102, Model 55, all T-800′s… Not really so difficult to understand really, T3 made a mistake, also a simple concept. It happens all the time, movie makers make mistakes…

  3. @ Ken
    LMFAO . tell me when a terminator refers itself as a T-800. If you can that is. I find it pathetic people hate T3 and Salvation mainly because they werent directed by James Cameron and dont admit it. Maybe i should even follow Terminator: TSCC timeline instead since Judgement day doesnt happen or does it. i wouldnt know since i dont watch it.

  4. Chris, in T2 after Arnold saves John, when they go into the alley on the bike, he refers to himself as a T-800 explaining what he is to John.

    In T3, he mistakenly refers to himself as a T-101.

  5. Man, this is hilarious. The FACT is, James Cameron INVENTED this Terminator universe. So anything to do with the Terminator franchise is DETERMINED by him. It doesn’t matter if YOU think T-101 makes sense or not, the only thing that matters is if James Cameron referred to them as that, and he didn’t, and never intended it. What I explained is the way Cameron explained it, so sorry, if T3 didn’t follow this, then they are wrong.

    And before you cop-out and simply call me a “hater” I didn’t “hate” T4, I found that the plot was pretty sloppy and there were a lot of plot holes, but the action scenes by themselves were pretty entertaining so overall I enjoyed watching it.

    But a fact is a fact, it has nothing to do with T3 not being directed by Cameron, someone else could direct it, as long as they stick to what’s already set to be true, then it’s ok. Speaking of Cameron, here’s an example, Aliens. The first was done by Ridley Scott, the sequel was done by Cameron. Do we “hate” Aliens because it wasn’t directed by the same person? No, because Cameron kept it true to what was set by the ORIGINAL.

    These are not comic books, you cannot “ret-con” the information from T3 to be true for the original T1 and T2. What they have set as fact needs to be followed, if not, then it’s wrong, simple as that.

    If you enjoyed T3, great, nothing wrong with that, but stop being unrealistic and defending things that cannot be defended. T3 got several things wrong, that’s it, you can still like the movie despite these mistakes, I liked many movies that made mistakes, the only difference is I don’t fool myself into believing that these mistakes didn’t happen. Don’t take it personally like you are married to the person in charge of the movie or something, geez.

  6. Chris, why do you keep posting about James Cameron? We’re just letting you know how T3 and T4 were inconsistent with the first two movies. Count the number of times we’ve mentioned Cameron and count the number of times you have.

    T3 & 4 are inconsistent with the first two films. Keep defending or attacking Cameron if you want, I think the blame actually lies with Ferris and Brancato.

  7. @ Ken
    Ken if Cameron stayed true to the original alien movie, then why did he change the alien’s look on their head? find a excuse for that.

  8. anyone else notice in t3 when hes under the bomb door at the end he develops a third arm, one arm grabs the tx, one opens his chest up, whats holding the door up??

    lol i guess you could throw different ideas out there, but that door was coming down quick, maybe it broke.
    woulnt the radiation get in der.. lol

  9. Forget it mike, according to him, T3 is a perfect movie and it’s impossible that the movie makers made a mistake. John Connor wasn’t 10 like the computer monitor on T2 said he was, he’s 13 because the makers of T3 said so, and the T-800 model 101 is now a T-101 Model 101 aka T-800 or something, whatever, because T3 said so… Anyone who thinks otherwise is just “hating” on the movies for no reason at all, regardless of the reasons we state. So who cares…

  10. @rich

    Actually, that’s exactly what I thought too the first time I saw it. But apparently the camera is on him, he’s holding the door up, the camera moves away and back on him and now magically he’s on his side so his arms are free, lol. Not exactly sure how he’s able to move his arms so freely and with so much dexterity and power when his shoulders are being crushed by a huge ass blast door, but whatever, don’t want to seem like a “hater” rich…

  11. ya i thought shoulder too, but i figured he being a machine and all and as much effort as to took him to hold up the door with his arms, dont think his chassi/ shoulder be able to support it. and i definantly dont think hed be able to move to easy.

    i dont think thats hating, has nothing to do with the terminator verse. just an oversight the director must have made on purpose to better capture the drama in the scene.
    like spielburg did in jurassic park.

  12. @ ken
    c,mon Ken, dont shy away from the question. why didnt Cameron stay true to Scott’s alien’s look? make up somthing. and i didnt say T3 was a perfect movie. T1 will always be my favorite outta the franchise. John’s age wasnt that big of a deal. have some high sight about corny of what a 10 yr can do that a adult can. cry me a river. made more since for john to be 13 so he can be older in the new films. Again Ken or Mike, why doesnt arnold simply emply hes a T-800 instead of a T-101 as he mentioned he was in T2 and T3. As for the T3 ending with the blast door, didnt it ever occur that maybe it jammed? Anyways, im thru with people who are in such denial of facts. Consider the conversation over with.

  13. @ Mike, Ken , Rich
    I apoligize for what i was saying, i forgot i was i said earlier about how Arnold being a T-800. It was one my friends confusing me on the subject cause of what he both heard on T2 and T3. You guys can go back to page 5 on here, and read my comment about the T-800. Date was 6-21-09

  14. Uuhh, chris, I’m not shying away from anything, I thought you were just trying to be rhetorical. Something called technology changes, they are able to put more detail, like they do in EVERY sequel… the practical dummies looked different from T1 to T2 as well… The future war sequence also had a few differences between those two, probably also attributed to advances in technology and filming techniques…

    He stayed true to Alien because they reproduced the same way, they killed in the same manner, Ripley didn’t magically change age, etc…

  15. I been watch all film, as i love all terminator film expect T3 is not bad….

    I just wonder why Kate Brewster not on T4 as T3, Terminator say John Conor is DEAD, KATE brewster is charged.

    How you can explain this one?

  16. McLaney,

    The backstory of T3 hasn’t happened yet. When the Arnold model kills John Connor and Kate takes over, it’s either in the year 2032 or after, as described in T3. T4 took place in 2018. They still got a lot of continuity wrong. Hopefully they’ll throw out the last two films and just start over.

  17. It’s funny in T3 how Arnold’s Terminator treats Kate Brewster like crap all through the beginning, then when he explains that Connor is dead and that she had sent him, then ALL OF A SUDDEN he’s taking orders from her, lol. That’s like those cheesy commercials for pain medications where the person is aching, then just mentioning the pain medication, magically the person is pain free, lol.

  18. Well yeah, T3 is a very poorly written script. They couldn’t even get the Terminator’s series model right. He’s a T-800, not a T-850

  19. Still John Connor and Kate Brewster in the love….

    They should be in T4….

    Mean i will understand and i noticed that john connor got new girlfriends and she pregnanet,

    Recall called her Sarah Connor or Jane Connor?

    Somehow i read the end of story< JANE CONNOR SAVE THE WORLD and beat Skynet.

    Mclaney

  20. @mike

    Worse, he called himself a T-101… But whatever, that’s the least of its problems… I think T3 and T4 both could have been semi-ok movies if they were stand-alone standard fare brainless action movies not related to the existing Terminator franchise. I think Cameron’s Terminator is simply too high of a standard to meet…

  21. The Terminator franchise is a case of, just leave it alone! Like The Matrix and Pirates Of The Carribean, sometimes making sequels just for the sake of making money is a bad idea.
    Oh wait, hang on, that is the only reason they make sequels.

    T3 wasnt as bad as T4. I believed that Nick Stahl was John Connor, in T4, all I could think of was how come Batman was in the future fighting Skynet!

  22. Nick Stahl, for real? You mean you thought Johon Connor was some p***y that can’t even run straight without tripping and falling and crying for help? I’m sorry, but I thought John Connor was a bad-ass, not the little pansy he was in T3, I wanted to kick his ass in like every scene…

    Bale was horribly miscast as Connor as well, but at least he wasn’t a p***y like the John Connor of T3…

  23. Oh, and BTW, movies in general, not just sequals, all movies, are pretty much produced and made for money. But that’s not a bad thing. The money is the incentive for creative people to keep trying to be creative. As long as they are actually earning that money and not trying to trick that money out of us I’m happy. Terminator 2 was a sequel, it was made for money, but dammit, James Cameron EARNED that money. I paid a lot of money toward T2 and T2 related stuff, but it is money well spent in my opinion.

  24. I’m Sure T5, is Silver bad ass terminator and Arnold will be there…. Batman (Bale) vs Terminator (Arnold)…

    Interested….

    I like Bale as John Connor, they pick right guy

  25. Terminator 2 is and always has been a rare example of a truly great sequel, but is is a completely different to T1. Making sequels solely for money is never a good idea, if there is a story to be told, something interesting for the characters to do, then it is justifiable. But most of the time sequel are poor in quality, not all I admit.

  26. I think the London idea is a real case of shark jumping. I hope the other rumor is true (http://notasoul.t35.com/shh) as it seems to repair the continuity and set up for a great connor vs t-connor 3rd movie.

  27. May 12, 1984
    T-800 sent back to kill Sarah
    Sarah is protected by Kyle Reese
    Sarah becomes pregnant
    1984
    A second T-800 arrives to kill the “fourth” Sarah Connor
    Intercepted by another human from the future
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: One Shot’
    February 28th, 1985
    John Connor is born
    1995-1997
    Miles Dyson creates a neural net processor using the first Terminators CPU
    Cyberdyne becomes the world largest supplier of military computers
    Work on Skynet begins
    August 4, 1997
    Skynet goes online
    It begins to learn at a geometric rate
    August 29, 1997
    Skynet becomes self aware
    Innitiates nuclear war
    2029
    Advanced model T-800 with upgraded cloned skin made to look like specific people are introduced
    They can not be detected by dogs
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: Hunters and Killers’
    Late 2029
    Skynets defence grid is smashed
    Both T-800s sent back
    Prototype T-1000 also sent back to 1995
    The Resistance sends a reprogrammed T-800 back to protect young John

    ——————————————————————————–

    ««« | Timeline 2:

    May 12, 1984
    T-800 sent back to kill Sarah
    Sarah is protected by Kyle Reese
    Sarah becomes pregnant
    1984
    A second T-800 arrives to kill the “fourth” Sarah Connor
    Intercepted by another human from the future
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: One Shot’
    February 28th, 1985
    John Connor is born
    1985-1995
    John and Sarah go into hiding
    May 12, 1995
    A T-1000 is sent back to kill John Connor
    A T-800 protects him
    The Terminator artifacts are destroyed
    They also destroy Cyberdynes back-ups
    May 13, 1995
    Another 2 T-800s and a T-1000 are sent back
    Trying to kill John and Sarah
    Trying to ensure Skynets creation
    They fail
    2001
    An I-950 attempts to ensure Skynet’s creation
    Cited from:
    - ‘T2: Infiltrator’
    2001 to March, 2003
    2 more I-950s try and complete the work of the first
    Skynet reaches sentience
    Cited from:
    - ‘T2: Rising Storm’
    2029
    Advanced model T-800 with upgraded cloned skin made to look like specific people are introduced
    They can not be detected by dogs
    Late 2029
    Skynets defence grid is smashed
    All Terminators sent back in time from this point
    Skynet rises again
    2 T-800 are sent back to 1992
    A third is sent to 2000

    ——————————————————————————–

    ««« | Timeline 3:

    May 12, 1984
    T-800 sent back to kill Sarah
    Sarah is protected by Kyle Reese
    Sarah becomes pregnant
    1984
    A second T-800 arrives to kill the “fourth” Sarah Connor
    Intercepted by another human from the future
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: One Shot’
    February 28th, 1985
    John Connor is born
    1992
    2 Terminators show up in Death Valley, California
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: Death Valley’
    1992-1995
    Sarah tries to blow up a computer factory
    She is arrested and John is placed in a foster home
    May 12, 1995
    A T-1000 is sent back to kill John Connor
    A T-800 protects him
    Sarah is broken out of prison
    The Terminator artifacts are destroyed
    They do not destroy the back-ups
    1997
    Sarah dies of Leukemia
    John starts living “off the grid”
    The Skynet project is taken over by CRS
    January 1st, 2000
    Another T-800 attempts to kill John, and fails
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: The Dark Years’
    July 24, 2004
    Brewster turns Skynet on
    Skynet starts the nuclear war
    Somehow, John and Kate survive
    2029
    Skynets defence grid is smashed
    All Terminators sent back in time from this point
    Skynet rises again
    2030
    Brainwashed humans are implemented by Skynet
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: The Dark Years’
    2031
    An advanced T-X model is sent back to kill John lietenants
    T-800 chassis gets another upgrade
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator 3: Eyes of the Rise’
    - ‘Terminator’ series, NOW comics
    2032
    The Resistance is asked to capture a T-850 to protect John
    They fail
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator 3: Before the Rise’
    July 4, 2032
    John is assasinated by a T-850
    It is captured and Kate reprograms it
    October 18, 2033
    The T-850 is sent back to 2004

    ——————————————————————————–

    ««« | Timeline 4:

    May 12, 1984
    T-800 sent back to kill Sarah
    Sarah is protected by Kyle Reese
    Sarah becomes pregnant
    1984
    A second T-800 arrives to kill the “fourth” Sarah Connor
    Intercepted by another human from the future
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: One Shot’
    February 28th, 1985
    John Connor is born
    1992
    2 Terminators show up in Death Valley, California
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: Death Valley’
    1992-1995
    Sarah tries to blow up a computer factory
    She is arrested and John is placed in a foster home
    May 12, 1995
    A T-1000 is sent back to kill John Connor
    A T-800 protects him
    Sarah is broken out of prison
    The Terminator artifacts are destroyed
    1997
    Sarah dies of Leukemia
    John starts living “off the grid”
    The Skynet project is taken over by CRS
    June 2004- July 2004
    Danny Avila begins to hear voices from the Resitance in the future
    Telling him to make Skynet blind to Continuum Transporter
    He does
    He and Linda are hunted by Scowl, a prototype T-800
    They survive, but Danny is left amnesiac
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator 3: Terminator Dreams’
    July 24, 2004
    A t-x attempts to kill John
    T-850 sent to protect
    Brewster turns Skynet on
    John and kate survive in Crystal Peak
    2029
    All Terminators sent back from this point
    The Resistasnce sends the protectors using their Continuum Transporter
    2031
    T-800 chassis gets another upgrade
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator’ series, NOW Comics
    2041
    Skynet resorts to nukes again to wipe out humanity
    Skynet ends up losing the war
    A T-950 is sent to kill John in 2004
    The Resistance sends back a second T-950 to protect him
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: The Burning Earth’
    - ‘Terminator 3: Fragmented’

    ——————————————————————————–

    ««« | Timeline 5:

    May 12, 1984
    T-800 sent back to kill Sarah
    Sarah is protected by Kyle Reese
    Sarah becomes pregnant
    1984
    A second T-800 arrives to kill the “fourth” Sarah Connor
    Intercepted by another human from the future
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: One Shot’
    February 28th, 1985
    John Connor is born
    19
    2 Terminators show up in Death Valley, California
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: Death Valley’
    1992-1995
    Sarah tries to blow up a computer factory
    She is arrested and John is placed in a foster home
    May 12, 1995
    A T-1000 is sent back to kill John Connor
    A T-800 protects him
    Sarah is broken out of prison
    The Terminator artifacts are destroyed
    They do not destroy the back-ups
    1997
    Sarah dies of Leukemia
    John starts living “off the grid”
    The Skynet project is taken over by CRS
    2004
    A T-950 arrives to kill John, but is damaged and actually starts to protect him
    It eventually remembers its true mission
    The second T-950 destroys it
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator 3: Fragmented’
    July 24, 2004
    John and Kate manage to survive
    The fate of the T-950, T-850, and T-X are unclear
    2029
    All Terminators sent back from this point
    A group of humans travel back to 1984 to prevent Skynets creation
    Several Terminators follow them through

    ——————————————————————————–

    ««« | Timeline 6:

    May 12, 1984
    T-800 sent back to kill Sarah
    Sarah is protected by Kyle Reese
    Sarah becomes pregnant
    1984
    A second T-800 arrives to kill the “fourth” Sarah Connor
    Intercepted by another human from the future
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: One Shot’
    Mid 1984- Early 1985
    The group of humans are pursued by the Terminators and all but one is killed
    Dudley, a half human-half Terminator sides with the humans
    Dr. Hollister, the man who first directed Cyberdynes research, is killed
    The Terminators are defeated
    One Terminators remains are collected by the FBI
    The remains, along with the agent, are destroyed by the humans
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: Tempest’,
    - ‘Terminator: Secondary Objectives’,
    - ‘Terminator: The Enemy Within’, and
    - ‘Terminator: Endgame’
    February 28th, 1985
    John Connor is born
    1985-2004
    The Skynet project eventually is able to move on
    But the machines rise happens much more slowly than before
    As a result, humans start fighting back long before than previoulsy
    The war never even reaches the South-West
    Much of it is left standing
    2029
    As John Connor leads his final assault, Skynent realizes something
    The computer in Odessa Hospital, the place of John birth, is still intact
    Skynet knows the time and place of its enemies birth
    2 T-800s are dispatched back to 1984
    A third is sent to Terminate him the day of his birth
    Skynet falls
    Reese is sent back to protect Sarah

    ——————————————————————————–

    ««« | Timeline 7:

    May 12, 1984
    T-800 sent back to kill Sarah
    Sarah is protected by Kyle Reese
    Sarah becomes pregnant, but because of the altered future, the way Reese conceives is different
    1984
    A second T-800 arrives to kill the “fourth” Sarah Connor
    Intercepted by another human from the future
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: One Shot’
    Mid 1984- Early 1985
    The group of humans are pursued by the Terminators and all but one is killed
    Dudley, a half human-half Terminator sides with the humans
    Dr. Hollister, the man who first directed Cyberdynes research, is killed
    The Terminators are defeated
    One Terminators remains are collected by the FBI
    The remains, along with the agent, are destroyed by the humans
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: Tempest’,
    - ‘Terminator: Secondary Objectives’,
    - ‘Terminator: The Enemy Within’, and
    - ‘Terminator: Endgame’
    February 28th, 1985
    The T-800 masacres his way to Odessa Hospital
    The surviving human, Mary Randall, and Detective Sloane follow him
    The Terminator dissapears as the future is changed again
    Sarah gives birth to a girl, Jane Connor
    Cited from:
    - ‘Terminator: Endgame’
    2029
    Jane leads the Resistance to victory
    Only the first 2 Terminators manage to go back
    Skynet falls, forever
    Original compilation by Damon Dellamarggio (T-800 205, T3 forum)
    Recompiled by Skynet-Man! (from the same boards)

  28. they should get old arnold to fight young arnold in T5.

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