‘Terminator 3000′ Gets Terminated in Rights Battle

Published 4 years ago by , Updated August 14th, 2010 at 6:18 pm,

Terminator 3000 ‘Terminator 3000′ Gets Terminated in Rights Battle

I think the word “Oops” is the only thing to say with regard to the PR nightmare descending over Hannover House and Red Bear Entertainment – following the announcement they’d be producing a $70 million animated Terminator film, titled Terminator 3000.

There’s just one problem: Terminator rights holder Pacificor, LLC wasn’t contacted and wasn’t too happy to hear that a new Terminator project was announced without their approval.

Pacificor, LLC has sent a swift cease and desist letter to Hannover House and Red Bear Entertainment stating:

“We recently became aware through various online media reports that Hannover House, purportedly a division of Target Development Group, Inc. (“TDGI”), entered into a purported feature film development venture with a Vancouver based entity, Red Bear Entertainment, for “Teminator 3000” an animated feature film based upon the characters introduced in the original Terminator movie.

This knowledge came as a surprise to Pacificor. It did not license or authorize any such development or film. Indeed, it has not been contacted by Hannover House, TDGI, Red Bear Entertainment or anyone else seeking such a license or approval.

While some of the reports we have seen mention that Pacificor “retains approval and licencing authority…” over the proposed project, a reasonable inference drawn from the reports is that such approval has been obtained. Otherwise, why would the “development deal” have been entered into in the first place and why would the reports mention a proposed January 2011 start date for production?”

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So where has the confusion come from?

Hannover House CEO Eric Parkinson was once in charge of the home video division of Hemdale (who made the original Terminator) and allegedly part of his settlement (when he left the company) were certain rights to the Terminator franchise.

Parkinson told Deadline:

“The animation rights were excluded when Hemdale sold Terminator to Carolco and when I left Hemdale, part of my settlement was that I got those rights. However, the way the rest of the contractual rights are written, it would be dangerous for us to do this without Pacificor’s approval. They have certain intellectual rights. The best way to put it is, they can’t make an animated film without me, and we might not be able to make it without them. We are in discussions with WME (the agency in charge of the rights), and hope we can deal with this expeditiously.”

Parkinson also asserted that the only reason a press release was even announced was because one of the potential production partners spoke publicly about the film.

Where does this leave Terminator 3000? It leaves it in limbo until Parkinson, Hannover and Red Bear can make a deal with Pacificor. At this point it could go either way – because it would appear that Pacificor intends to continue the live action cinematic adventures of everyone’s favorite time travelling android and, according to a spokesperson, “isn’t looking for another project beyond what’s envisioned as two or more live action feature films that continue the apocalyptic adventures hatched by James Cameron.”

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Will Terminator 3000 Find Salvation?

However, Parkinson remains hopeful that a deal will be reached:

“We’ve arranged a meeting, we’ll show them our money and if the rational brain prevails, they’ll take the deal. If not, I can’t do it without them. You’ll have a follow-up next week that we are either holding hands, or not doing the film. At least we now have our meeting. I hope they will can think outside the box, because if we can make a movie that delivers a $20 million to $30 million rights payment, that is an income source they didn’t realize was possible. If not, it was a good idea anyway.”

Pacificor, may be slightly miffed that the Parkinson and Co. decided to move in on their baby which could leave Terminator 3000, and subsequently Parkinson, out in the cold.

At the very least you have to admire Parkinson for trying to put together such a deal – and even more so in raising $70 million for a 3D animated film that audiences weren’t asking for (and may or may not be interested in) – as the franchise has an untested animated brand.

Pacificor’s response might also hint at whether or not we’ll be seeing the mooted sequel to McG’s Terminator Salvation. Though, for now, it remains a mystery.

Source: Deadline

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  1. Weird. I blame Skynet.

  2. Good. This franchise needs to just die off. It had a great run with the first two films, but was turned into another brainless action flick with the last two. Yes I’m quite aware the first two were action films, but if you actually pay attention to the movie, then you’ll see there’s more to the film than that.

    • im in agreement with you matt, jsut should DIED off as soon as cammy left the franchise…but, like Jagger sang, you cant always get what you want..

      • If you want to get technical, then the series is dead. Actually, it’s like a zombie. Studios keep the series going long after it should have ended. There are few who still want to see anymore films made.

  3. I actually don’t think of the first film as an action film at all, it plays like a brilliant cat and mouse style thriller, sci fi noir.

    • i went out and made my Uncle buy me some sweet Gargoyle sunglasses after i saw The Terminator Sam, had to have em!

  4. Well.
    Take all that money and energy and give us Season 3 of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles as it was far and away the class of the franchise.

    If two live action movies are coming they ought to pick up where TSCC left off. T4 was a disaster.

    • even though i like Whedon, i blame HIm for its demise, he went crying to the network executives to keep that horrid Dollhouse show on :(

    • I agree :P

  5. Aslong as MCG doesn’t come back as director, im hoping they make a Terminator 5 & 6 and pick up where T4 left off. Id like to see the future war esculate further instead of living back with Time-Travel idea movies or series. James Cameron mentioned he liked it more than he thought he would. And Arnold gave it thumbs up,what i don’t get is people here dont. I heard little things people didnt like about it, things like No Cameron involvment again, No Arnold starring role, PG-13 rating which is dumb if they liked Live Free or Die hard when it was PG-13 aswell etc.

    • @” No Arnold starring role, PG-13 rating which is dumb if they liked Live Free or Die hard when it was PG-13 aswell etc.”

      Those things didn’t factor into my opinion at all. For one, Arnold is way *too old* to be the Terminator again (unless they CG his face in the whole movie). Two: There is no connection between movie rating and movie quality. I’ve seen many films that are rated R, and are complete crap (Freddy vs. Jason, Alien Ressurrectio, and Terminator 3 to name a few). Hech TDK had explicit violence (and themes), and it was PG 13. I don’t mind Cameron to returning, but I can’t help but notice the ones he didn’t direct were low in quality (despite me enjoying TS).

      McG wasn’t the problem in TS, it was the script. Having the same hacks who wrote Terminator 3 didn’t help at all. Even Jonathan Nolan (whos a brillirant writer)couldn’t fix their mistakes.

      • McG was a total nut job, he did not know wtf he was doing neither did the producers or writers, the whole movie was a load of garbage because all they thought about was $$$$
        had they sat down and written a better script, and thought about everything properly, then we would have seen better action scenes, gotten more info about what was occurring and had a better understanding of how kyle met john and how they became friends (no to mention how john became a proper leader)

        they could have simply made the story a continuity of 3 (with different actors etc) and made the story about john trying to gain peoples trusts, whilst coming in terms with the fact that he has to be the leader of all the remaining humans (this was not established in 3)

    • i liked the UNRATED Live Free, i never saw the PG-13 crap in the theaters, i prefer hearing john with his F-bombs, thanks :) nor have i ever, nor will ever seeing another terminator film, they screwed the pooch on that franchise

  6. “…as the franchise has an untested animated brand.”

    Not entirely. Have you forgotten so soon about the short animated Terminator Salvation: The Machinima film series? While it isn’t exactly an animated feature length film – it is an animated brand relating to Terminator.

    As for this news…?
    I am neither happy nor sad. But I can tell you I think it’s really stupid for a buyer to have the rights to a franchise and do nothing with it. Someone up there mentioned bringing SC series back, possibly for a TV film (let’s be honest folks, if it happens, which it won’t, that’s the only way it’ll happen. Don’t kid yourself) and I wouldn’t mind— but I don’t blame Fox for putting the kobbosh on the series either – Dollhouse or no Dollhouse, as much as I heart Summer Glau, as much as I thought Shirley Manson got interesting and Brain Austin Green, Richard Jones and Garrett Dillahunt were brilliant…that show jerked me around and dragged things on and on so much (come on..you mean to tell me folks that you really missed the five minute recaps and the odd commercial breaks?)

    In a way, this animated proposal was a good idea. It also was a lousy one because nobody really gives a care anymore. There’s really not much story left to tell (although the series was starting to win me over, but that’s dead and it isn’t coming back)…and sometimes it’s just best to let sleeping dogs lie.

    At least for now anyway.

    • I agree with what you said about the show. I watched a few episodes, but it got boring really quickly.

  7. 70 million to make an animated 3D Terminator film?
    That’s laughable.
    Whata group of out of touch investors. But then these idiots didn’t even have the brains to keep the deal hush until they had the rights…
    ^
    Either way this concept will fail in the long run. (Imo)
    Terminator 3000? That’s the title, ok,,, 8-)

    Cough’lame,, cough!

    • hey 790, i agree that 70 mill is too much. it aint getting my money thats for DAMN sure. :)

  8. I don’t think animation would work for Terminator. Believe it or not a good Terminator movie needs actors who are interesting to watch. Special effects and violence alone don’t cut it. Note I did not say good actors. Just actors who are interesting to watch.

    In the first movie all three main actors had screen presence and were interesting to watch. In the second Robert Patrick, Arnold and especially Linda Hamilton were interesting. The kid mot so much. In the third movie you just had Arnold the rest were just bland. And in the fourth there was no one. Even Christian Bale was bland and boring.

    So if they do another they are going to need live actors. Put boot up Bales butt and get him to stop phoning it in and get at least a couple actors with some charisma and stage presence.

  9. I am glad that they didn’t go with the T3000 movie. The Terminator for me, should be live action and live action ONLY! I’ve watched the machinama series and it didn’t have that feel that the other Terminator movies had. Besides everythings going CGI and I want to see some LIVE ACTION!

    PS: The TSCC was badass and I stand a firm belief that it will come back and when it does, I’ll hold a grudge to those who gave up on it.

    • same

  10. Thank God they aren’t going through with this movie. I think that making an animated reboot of The TERMINATOR is the worst idea i’ve heard and such a waste of time and 70 million dollars! I don’t see how anyone would actually go to the theaters to see something like this. They’re much better off canceling the franchise than anything else.
    But in my opinion, I think they definitely should continue the series of Terminator Salvation. I thought this movie showed great potential for the actual war in the future. The only thing they have to do now is stay true to the original stories and take their time to make a great sequel to save the terminator series and continue the war against the machines. Just anything instead of a 3d animated reboot gimmick

    • @ Louis

      I agree with you. Im grateful this so-called Terminator 3000 idea is being called off. Id like to see the franchise continue on from Terminator Salvation with T5 & T6 and see how the war progresses. Like see how the machines develope the laser weapons to use and how the resistance aquire them aswell.See more of Kyle Reese fight along w/ John Connor & the Resistance. Maybe see captured humans building the big machines that roll as seen in T1 & T2. Have somthing within the plot that makes the resistance have to stay outta sight during the day more and mostly be active at night as Reese tells Sarah in the original film. But, NO Time Travel. Id like to see how the whole thing started to the point where Skynet Sends back the T-800 to 1984. If they continue the franchise & make a 5th & 6th film, they should look back at flashback and dream scenes from the original film and make it darker. I felt parts T4 had that very little but realized its still only the beginning as Connor isn’t leader etc. They need to find a good director and take notes from the first two films and get ideas of the kind of war Connor is facing.

  11. I am not liking the idea of an animated series. I love the movies and I really liked the sarah conor chronicals. I was hoping they would have another story in the series. Maybe showing John’s children and a future rebuit world.

  12. Terminator 3000 debe ser una precuela de T3 explicando lo sucedido entre T2 y T3 , actores originales de T1 y T2 y la originalidad de estas , La vuelta de la misma TX saltando en el tiempo hasta momentos de la fecha 29 de agosto de 1997 junto a un T3000 mitad T850( el mismo de T3) y mitad T1000 (el mismo de T2), la trama seria explicar los sucesos en el que Marcus Wright es incriminado por responsabilidad de los TX y T3000 por programacion chip mediante y copia infiltracion como este para la copia de su hermano exterminado (interpretado por Robert Patric) en un enfrentamiento policial que esta por capturar a John Connor por delitos juveniles por iniciativa de los Terminators infiltrados en el lugar de estudios de formacion de su persona donde esta John Reese asi denominado,el prontuario que se ve en T2 ,para explicar el origen del T1000 de T2 y la trama TSalvation. Una Sarah Connor que sobrevive a el dia del juicio y viaja en el tiempo engañando a John o para buscar a Kyle Reese o porque el John Connor del Futuro la rescata del pasado mencionando la frase “ven conmigo si quieres vivir”.Un T800 nuevo que sea parte de la accion , un Arnold a sus anchas,enfrentando a la TX y al T3000 en tiempos anteriores a T3 ,conectando las historias T1 T2 T3 y TSalvation.Esta precuela para explicar la leyenda de la que habla Kyle Reese en T1 que forma parte de la Trilogia TSalvation y las dos siguientes los viajes en el tiempo y la dificultad que presentan, como las situaciones que se explican en T1 T2 y T3.Una nueva trama que conecte las historias y lo sucedido entre T2 y T3.

  13. La segunda parte de la pelicula Terminator 3000( mas parecida a las T1 y T2) y antes de terminar, ya habiendo explicado los sucesos entre T2 y T3 y haciendo una mension a las situaciones reales criticas como los del 11/9 deberia seguir hacia el año 2011/2012 nueva fecha para el dia del juicio haciendola coincidir con el final de Terminator 3 y conectando las historias T3 TSalvation y las venideras que contengan la leyenda Connor, el T800, John Connor y Sarah Connor habiendo solucionado el problema del viaje en el tiempo,y tomando diferentes rumbos ya sea de donde vinieron inicialmente 2029 2032 y/o por que la TX tiene la capacidad de saltar en el tiempo y enviar al T3000 a diferentes momentos para su mision de crear el dia del juicio final y exterminar a John Connor, dejando “huecos por donde ir” un poco motivados por una continuo enfrentamiento y desplazamiento en el tiempo como resultado de una nueva tecnologia etc, una nueva trama que haga un poco mas interesante y con contenido sobre los sucesos menos previsibles que antes dejando situaciones inconclusas para continuarlas en las historias 2029/2032 y mostrando otros actores que intervengan y diferentes aristas de la historia que una simple persecucion y la situacion de un peligro apocaliptico . Una saga en que la accion se relacione con lo moderno con una historia bien pensada e inteligente y que sea atractiva para todos, que conecte las historias T1 T2 T3 TSalvation Cronicas de Sarah Connor las novelas que se han escrito como T2 El infiltrador o Terminator Hunt etc.

  14. Terminator 3000 debe ser una precuela de T3 explicando lo sucedido entre T2 y T3 , actores originales de T1 y T2 y la originalidad de estas , La vuelta de la misma TX saltando en el tiempo hasta momentos de la fecha 29 de agosto de 1997 junto a un T3000 mitad T850( el mismo de T3) y mitad T1000 (el mismo de T2)que en el futuro se disocia del T850 y viaja a T2 ,una vez atrapado el T3000 que se infiltra con la mision de exterminar a John Connor,el T800 mismo de T2 antes de llegar a esta parte de la historia llegando en el tiempo hasta un concierto de Rock donde consigue su indumentaria anteojos oscuros y motocicleta con la mision de impedir el juicio final de 1997 actuando a pesar de no encontrar a John Connor(el de T2 interpretado por Edward Furlong) en el sentido a las ordenes de este supervivencia y hasta una asegurada preparacion del estilo de vida a los efectos de la potencialidad de las acciones de este tenga en el futuro “algo asi como todo lo que un padre quiciera para un hijo” lo que esperaria Kyle Reese a partir del John Connor del futuro (mision continuada en T2) la trama seria explicar los sucesos en el que Marcus Wright es incriminado por responsabilidad de los TX y T3000 por programacion chip mediante(chip que la TX saca de su vientre el mismo que Marcus se saca en TSalvation) y copia infiltracion como este para la copia de su hermano exterminado (interpretado por Robert Patrick) en un enfrentamiento policial que esta por capturar a John Connor por delitos juveniles,el prontuario que se ve en T2 , por iniciativa de los Terminators infiltrados en el lugar de estudios de formacion de su persona donde esta John Reese asi denominado y sus compañeros de estudio como la chica que aparece en cronicas pero esta vez siendo humana y conociendo su historia, copia de la TX a la profesora de ciencias o de biologia infiltracion en donde estudia John Connor llamado John Reese y seduccion de la TX a Marcus Wright posiblemente estudiando en el mismo lugar para averiguar el paradero de John Connor a traves de su hermano Wright(Robert Patrick),para explicar el origen del T1000 de T2 y la trama TSalvation. Una Sarah Connor que rescata a John Connor del Departamento de policia ,a partir de la destruccion de este por parte de la TX similitud escena a la de T1 en la que Kyle Reese rescata a Sarah Connor en la que el T800 extrae armamento de la armeria del departamento seguido por el T3000,Sarah explicandole algunas cosas que John desconocia (parte de la trama)y que sobrevive a el dia del juicio y viaja en el tiempo engañando a John o para buscar a Kyle Reese o porque el John Connor del Futuro junto a los amigos situacion descripta en T3 ante la ausencia de esta dando una vuelta de rosca a la trama y asemejandola a cronicas,la rescatan del pasado mencionando la frase “ven conmigo si quieres vivir”.Un T800 que sea parte de la accion , un Arnold a sus anchas,enfrentando a la TX y al T3000 en tiempos anteriores a T3 ,conectando las historias T1 T2 T3 y TSalvation.Esta precuela para explicar la leyenda de la que habla Kyle Reese en T1 que da forma a la Trilogia TSalvation y las dos siguientes los viajes en el tiempo y la dificultad que presentan, como las situaciones que se explican en T1 T2 y T3.Una nueva trama que conecte las historias y lo sucedido entre T2 y T3.
    2011/2012, nuevas escenas de accion “con toda la carne al asador” al estilo de estas peliculas,
    La Tx copia a Marcus Wright quedando en claro que Marcus Wright es la version de John connor que se le da a esta parte de la historia comparado con el John Connor de la Tercera pelicula en la que el T850 realiza las acciones que son propias a John Connor y por lo cual este no puede ser rastreado , tales acciones son las que el T800 le asegura a John Connor para su supervivencia y estilo de vida atribuciones de este en funcion a las acciones que tenga en el futuro ,la TX en cambio extermina al hermano policia y a otros dos con el aspecto de Marcus y persiguiendo a John Reese llega hasta el departamento de policia ( escena a lo Schwarzenegger en T1) ,el T 3000 copia a John Connor (Edward Furlong)aunque posiblemente la sangre de este de algun hospital ,infiltracion. El T3000 copia al T800 en un enfrentamiento como los que tuvo el T800 con el T1000 y la TX y en el que la forma del T1000 que reviste al endoesqueleto T850 se vea en contraposicion a este (esta copia en el futuro va a infiltrarse y encontrar a John Connor,con la mision de exterminarlo)
    La segunda parte de la pelicula Terminator 3000( mas parecida y con el estilo de las T1 y T2) y antes de terminar, ya habiendo explicado los sucesos entre T2 y T3 lo que se explica en esta ultima y haciendo una mension a las situaciones reales criticas como los del 11/9 deberia seguir hacia el año 2011/2012 nueva fecha para el dia del juicio haciendola coincidir con el final de Terminator 3 y conectando las historias T3 TSalvation y las venideras que contengan la leyenda Connor, el T800, John Connor y Sarah Connor habiendo solucionado el problema del viaje en el tiempo,y tomando diferentes rumbos ya sea de donde vinieron inicialmente 2029 2032 y/o por que la TX tiene la capacidad de saltar en el tiempo y enviar al T3000 a diferentes momentos para su mision de crear el dia del juicio final y exterminar a John Connor, dejando “huecos por donde ir” un poco motivados por una continuo enfrentamiento y desplazamiento en el tiempo o como resultado de una nueva tecnologia etc, una nueva trama que haga un poco mas interesante y con contenido sobre los sucesos menos previsibles que antes dejando situaciones inconclusas para continuarlas en las historias 2029/2032 y mostrando otros actores que intervengan y diferentes aristas de la historia que una simple persecucion y la situacion de un peligro apocaliptico . Una saga en que la accion se relacione con lo moderno con una historia bien pensada e inteligente y que sea atractiva para todos, que conecte las historias T1 T2 T3 TSalvation Cronicas de Sarah Connor las novelas que se han escrito como T2 El infiltrador o Terminator Hunt etc.

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