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		<title>By: Marvel Worldwide, Inc. et al v. Kirby et al Court Depositions - Comic Book Critic &#124; Helping the reader make informed decisions. One issue at a time.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvel Worldwide, Inc. et al v. Kirby et al Court Depositions - Comic Book Critic &#124; Helping the reader make informed decisions. One issue at a time.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hired lawyer Marc Toberoff to represent them. Toberoff was recently successful in obtaining the full rights to Superman’s origins for Siegel and Schuster, the creators of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Trojan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 05:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wrong when I said WB brothers Superman can be released into public domain since the courts determine that WB Brothers/DC does not own Superman anymore.

As you know Superman copyright will change ownership in 2013.

Anyways Superman can become public domain in 2013 if DC Comics can convince Congress in 2011 to amend the Sonny Bono Copyright Protection to Act to harmonize it with Albania Copyright Law.

Albania Copyright Law
Life + 70 years

70 years from publication (anonymous or pseudonymous work)

70 years from publication; 70 years from creation if unpublished (photographic or audiovisual work of joint authorship

25 years from production (works of applied art)

U.S. Copyright Law

Life + 70 years (works published since 1978 or unpublished works)

95 years from publication or 120 years from creation whichever is shorter(anonymous works, pseudonymous works, or works made for hire, published since 1978

95 years from publication for works published 1964–1977; 28 (if copyright not renewed) or 95 years from publication for works published 1923–1963 (Copyrights prior to 1923 have expired.)

Amending U.S. Copyright Law to make Superman public domain in 2012 or 2013 instead of 2033 would be awesome.

WB Brothers/D.C. Comics will have to only pay Siegel&#039;s and  Shuster&#039;s money.

Shuster may not own Superman because Joe Shuster nephew 
Mark Peary because he missed the missed the deadline to file for 1994&#039;s window, and so must wait until Superman&#039;s 75th anniversary in 2013 so 
WB/DC could still own have of Superman starting in 2013. 

http://www.planetslade.com/superheroes2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wrong when I said WB brothers Superman can be released into public domain since the courts determine that WB Brothers/DC does not own Superman anymore.</p>
<p>As you know Superman copyright will change ownership in 2013.</p>
<p>Anyways Superman can become public domain in 2013 if DC Comics can convince Congress in 2011 to amend the Sonny Bono Copyright Protection to Act to harmonize it with Albania Copyright Law.</p>
<p>Albania Copyright Law<br />
Life + 70 years</p>
<p>70 years from publication (anonymous or pseudonymous work)</p>
<p>70 years from publication; 70 years from creation if unpublished (photographic or audiovisual work of joint authorship</p>
<p>25 years from production (works of applied art)</p>
<p>U.S. Copyright Law</p>
<p>Life + 70 years (works published since 1978 or unpublished works)</p>
<p>95 years from publication or 120 years from creation whichever is shorter(anonymous works, pseudonymous works, or works made for hire, published since 1978</p>
<p>95 years from publication for works published 1964–1977; 28 (if copyright not renewed) or 95 years from publication for works published 1923–1963 (Copyrights prior to 1923 have expired.)</p>
<p>Amending U.S. Copyright Law to make Superman public domain in 2012 or 2013 instead of 2033 would be awesome.</p>
<p>WB Brothers/D.C. Comics will have to only pay Siegel&#8217;s and  Shuster&#8217;s money.</p>
<p>Shuster may not own Superman because Joe Shuster nephew<br />
Mark Peary because he missed the missed the deadline to file for 1994&#8242;s window, and so must wait until Superman&#8217;s 75th anniversary in 2013 so<br />
WB/DC could still own have of Superman starting in 2013. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.planetslade.com/superheroes2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.planetslade.com/superheroes2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trojan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 19:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WB brothers will not have to pay Siegel family and Shuster family for the Superman Trademark and image because WB brothers could put Superman in public domain before 2013.

WB brothers will be only ones to own the Superman trademark and Superman will copyright free.

WB brothers would have to go to The U.S. Copyright Office and give a note to them saying,  &quot;WB Brothers grants Superman to the Public Domain

The most the  Siegel family and Shuster family did was to force WB brothers to put Superman into public domain so they can keep the Superman trademark and everybody can own the Superman Copyright.

WB brothers might not being putting Superman into public domain before 2013 because they may not know how to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WB brothers will not have to pay Siegel family and Shuster family for the Superman Trademark and image because WB brothers could put Superman in public domain before 2013.</p>
<p>WB brothers will be only ones to own the Superman trademark and Superman will copyright free.</p>
<p>WB brothers would have to go to The U.S. Copyright Office and give a note to them saying,  &#8220;WB Brothers grants Superman to the Public Domain</p>
<p>The most the  Siegel family and Shuster family did was to force WB brothers to put Superman into public domain so they can keep the Superman trademark and everybody can own the Superman Copyright.</p>
<p>WB brothers might not being putting Superman into public domain before 2013 because they may not know how to.</p>
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		<title>By: What Should Warner Bros. Do About Superman? - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Should Warner Bros. Do About Superman? - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rights to the character are still being fought over by DC Comics/Warner Bros. and the heirs of Superman creators Jerry Siegel and Joe [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Superman/Batman fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superman/Batman fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;HO NO DC/WB LOST RIGHTS SUPERMAN&#039;S ORIGIN?! GOD HELP THEM THEY ARE SO SCREWED!&quot;-snicker- Oh thank God they can&#039;t do another origin story or as long and as drawn out but will never be as good as the first one. Haha. Looks like time to get creative you &quot;genious&quot; movie scripters you.
 
I may be a little late to weigh in on this but it&#039;s news to me. I enjoyed the original movie with Reeve as Superman. That will be my all time favorite adaptation of Big Blue. Like you don&#039;t mess with Texas, You shouldn&#039;t mess with the &quot;S&quot; either. Especially not in the way Singer&#039;d done. Yes I think Routh shouldn&#039;t be canned totally cast him as an extra maybe? -Lol, jk- However, I think the kid who played the infant Kal-El in Superman 1, should be given a shot at playing Superman/Clark. He&#039;s actually got blue eyes and looks the type. All they&#039;d need do is let his hair grow some, style it with a right way S curl and dye it black. (Superman having brown hair doesn&#039;t work, not for me at least and I have brown hair) 
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.supermansupersite.com/aaron.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.supermansupersite.com/portrayers.html&amp;h=548&amp;w=399&amp;sz=20&amp;tbnid=mbh3Qsokiguv1M:&amp;tbnh=133&amp;tbnw=97&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3DAaron%2BSmolinski&amp;usg=__cgIfbwzp2wCQNf9M_r7K8Vlu6k0=&amp;ei=ug3iSongEtmy8QaK2_STAQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=image_result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ct=image&amp;ved=0CAsQ9QEwAA

(hopefully you remember his more chubby cheeked face from when he played lil Kal saved Pa Kent from being smushed after they discovered him.) Another reason I&#039;d pick him is because he LOOKS age appropriate for the part! Now a second choice to Aaron Smolinski is Tom Welling. My choices for either of them is that they both with natural blue eyes. (I am NOT a fan of contacts being used to achieve blue eyes especially when they look so dark and brown in bad lighting. It just looks like a massive &quot;load&quot; like that Batman and Robin movie from the late 1990&#039;s) I&#039;m aiming for quality guys. 

With that said and if Luthor which I&#039;d dread,is cast as the main bad guy I think someone with more beef than brains should play him like... Vin Disle anyone? Not a meat head but someone who could be smart and tough. More than just a guy behind the science but actually thug-like but intimidating. However, I want someone who can give Superman a run for his money or his tights at least. Yeah Luthor can do that but he has been over done and No Gene &quot;Hack&quot;man did not perfect Luthor. Kevin Spacey did that thank you very much. Villains other than Mr. L. Toyman I think would be too timid but maybe as a secondary in tag team effort. I&#039;d probably cast Robin Williams or Jim Carry if they&#039;d sign up or need the money bad enough. -gut busts from intense side splitting laughter-
But seriously, Brainiac, Mongul, DARKSIED, and any other major big bad villains should be considered by filmmakers. 

To love interest, GET RID OF KATE BOSWORTH, AS LOIS LANE!!! SHE PRACTICALLY BENT OVER FOR LUTHOR AND EVERYONE ELSE. There was nothing resembling other incarnations of the Daiy PLanet&#039;s star hard nosed spunky reporter in high heels. They had the high heels right at least. I agree with most people on the kid too. No way unhh unhh. Made Lois too wimpy. Bosworth was better in Blue Crush than as Lois Lane. If Margot Kidder wasn&#039;t so damn old or Terri Hatcher was interested they should have gone with either of them. Oh Erica Durance. The chick playing Lois on Smallville. I think the guy who played Olson did alright though. He wasn&#039;t all bad but there&#039;s gotta be someone better off the top of my head I really can&#039;t think of any. Maybe the guy playing him Smallville, X-Men&#039;s former Iceman actor. Too bad the guy who played Perry White on Lois and Clark isn&#039;t around any more. I thought he did a great job. A much better one than Frank Langella in SR. Or hey maybe give Steve Martin a chance to play a serious role and cast him as White? 

Moving on, you know what would be great? Is if they figure out how like in current Marvel Movies (Before Marvel Sold out to Micky Mouse that is. God I see Spidy and Micky fighting together and it makes me wanna hurl.) I digress but, if DC/WB could do in there movies like in the Marvel movies forming the Avengers deal. They could start laying the bedrock for a JLA movie. Like at the end of this Movie show Supes Heading to Gotham at the end of his flick after taking out his villains and saving Lois etc. Maybe set the movie up into 3 chapters or something. Possibly 3 seperate movies. I donno but it would be just fantastic if they did something new and exciting to reinvigorate the franchise. To resurrect it from the dead. It&#039;s been 30 years since a decent film for the Big Blue Boyscout. He&#039;s long over due. And to those who think DC should abandon the Superman Film Franchise, think about what Comics or Comic Inspired movies would be if Superman: The Movie had never come about. Most likely there&#039;d be no Batman, or Spider-man, etc. Yes I&#039;d kill to see a good Flash, Green Lantern, or W.W. movie. But like in the beginning of DC Comics I think A retooled Superman movie should be the flagship paving the way! 

Have a great and blessed weekend y&#039;all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;HO NO DC/WB LOST RIGHTS SUPERMAN&#8217;S ORIGIN?! GOD HELP THEM THEY ARE SO SCREWED!&#8221;-snicker- Oh thank God they can&#8217;t do another origin story or as long and as drawn out but will never be as good as the first one. Haha. Looks like time to get creative you &#8220;genious&#8221; movie scripters you.</p>
<p>I may be a little late to weigh in on this but it&#8217;s news to me. I enjoyed the original movie with Reeve as Superman. That will be my all time favorite adaptation of Big Blue. Like you don&#8217;t mess with Texas, You shouldn&#8217;t mess with the &#8220;S&#8221; either. Especially not in the way Singer&#8217;d done. Yes I think Routh shouldn&#8217;t be canned totally cast him as an extra maybe? -Lol, jk- However, I think the kid who played the infant Kal-El in Superman 1, should be given a shot at playing Superman/Clark. He&#8217;s actually got blue eyes and looks the type. All they&#8217;d need do is let his hair grow some, style it with a right way S curl and dye it black. (Superman having brown hair doesn&#8217;t work, not for me at least and I have brown hair)<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.supermansupersite.com/aaron.jpg&#038;imgrefurl=http://www.supermansupersite.com/portrayers.html&#038;h=548&#038;w=399&#038;sz=20&#038;tbnid=mbh3Qsokiguv1M:&#038;tbnh=133&#038;tbnw=97&#038;prev=/images%3Fq%3DAaron%2BSmolinski&#038;usg=__cgIfbwzp2wCQNf9M_r7K8Vlu6k0=&#038;ei=ug3iSongEtmy8QaK2_STAQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=image_result&#038;resnum=1&#038;ct=image&#038;ved=0CAsQ9QEwAA" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.supermansupersite.com/aaron.jpg&#038;imgrefurl=http://www.supermansupersite.com/portrayers.html&#038;h=548&#038;w=399&#038;sz=20&#038;tbnid=mbh3Qsokiguv1M:&#038;tbnh=133&#038;tbnw=97&#038;prev=/images%3Fq%3DAaron%2BSmolinski&#038;usg=__cgIfbwzp2wCQNf9M_r7K8Vlu6k0=&#038;ei=ug3iSongEtmy8QaK2_STAQ&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=image_result&#038;resnum=1&#038;ct=image&#038;ved=0CAsQ9QEwAA</a></p>
<p>(hopefully you remember his more chubby cheeked face from when he played lil Kal saved Pa Kent from being smushed after they discovered him.) Another reason I&#8217;d pick him is because he LOOKS age appropriate for the part! Now a second choice to Aaron Smolinski is Tom Welling. My choices for either of them is that they both with natural blue eyes. (I am NOT a fan of contacts being used to achieve blue eyes especially when they look so dark and brown in bad lighting. It just looks like a massive &#8220;load&#8221; like that Batman and Robin movie from the late 1990&#8242;s) I&#8217;m aiming for quality guys. </p>
<p>With that said and if Luthor which I&#8217;d dread,is cast as the main bad guy I think someone with more beef than brains should play him like&#8230; Vin Disle anyone? Not a meat head but someone who could be smart and tough. More than just a guy behind the science but actually thug-like but intimidating. However, I want someone who can give Superman a run for his money or his tights at least. Yeah Luthor can do that but he has been over done and No Gene &#8220;Hack&#8221;man did not perfect Luthor. Kevin Spacey did that thank you very much. Villains other than Mr. L. Toyman I think would be too timid but maybe as a secondary in tag team effort. I&#8217;d probably cast Robin Williams or Jim Carry if they&#8217;d sign up or need the money bad enough. -gut busts from intense side splitting laughter-<br />
But seriously, Brainiac, Mongul, DARKSIED, and any other major big bad villains should be considered by filmmakers. </p>
<p>To love interest, GET RID OF KATE BOSWORTH, AS LOIS LANE!!! SHE PRACTICALLY BENT OVER FOR LUTHOR AND EVERYONE ELSE. There was nothing resembling other incarnations of the Daiy PLanet&#8217;s star hard nosed spunky reporter in high heels. They had the high heels right at least. I agree with most people on the kid too. No way unhh unhh. Made Lois too wimpy. Bosworth was better in Blue Crush than as Lois Lane. If Margot Kidder wasn&#8217;t so damn old or Terri Hatcher was interested they should have gone with either of them. Oh Erica Durance. The chick playing Lois on Smallville. I think the guy who played Olson did alright though. He wasn&#8217;t all bad but there&#8217;s gotta be someone better off the top of my head I really can&#8217;t think of any. Maybe the guy playing him Smallville, X-Men&#8217;s former Iceman actor. Too bad the guy who played Perry White on Lois and Clark isn&#8217;t around any more. I thought he did a great job. A much better one than Frank Langella in SR. Or hey maybe give Steve Martin a chance to play a serious role and cast him as White? </p>
<p>Moving on, you know what would be great? Is if they figure out how like in current Marvel Movies (Before Marvel Sold out to Micky Mouse that is. God I see Spidy and Micky fighting together and it makes me wanna hurl.) I digress but, if DC/WB could do in there movies like in the Marvel movies forming the Avengers deal. They could start laying the bedrock for a JLA movie. Like at the end of this Movie show Supes Heading to Gotham at the end of his flick after taking out his villains and saving Lois etc. Maybe set the movie up into 3 chapters or something. Possibly 3 seperate movies. I donno but it would be just fantastic if they did something new and exciting to reinvigorate the franchise. To resurrect it from the dead. It&#8217;s been 30 years since a decent film for the Big Blue Boyscout. He&#8217;s long over due. And to those who think DC should abandon the Superman Film Franchise, think about what Comics or Comic Inspired movies would be if Superman: The Movie had never come about. Most likely there&#8217;d be no Batman, or Spider-man, etc. Yes I&#8217;d kill to see a good Flash, Green Lantern, or W.W. movie. But like in the beginning of DC Comics I think A retooled Superman movie should be the flagship paving the way! </p>
<p>Have a great and blessed weekend y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Kirby’s Estate Sues Disney/Marvel - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Kirby’s Estate Sues Disney/Marvel - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Siegel/Shuster heirs have been successful in their legal pursuit to some degree; they now have full access to Superman&#8217;s origins with many thanks going to their superstar lawyer (you guessed it) Marc Toberoff. What they are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Siegel/Shuster heirs have been successful in their legal pursuit to some degree; they now have full access to Superman&#8217;s origins with many thanks going to their superstar lawyer (you guessed it) Marc Toberoff. What they are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If Disney-Marvel Buys Superman? - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If Disney-Marvel Buys Superman? - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] legal dispute with the heirs of Superman creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. Recently WB lost the rights to use Superman&#8217;s origin story in any films or shows, and a judge has already ruled that in 2013, the rights to the character [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jock123</title>
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		<dc:creator>jock123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven’t a clue why anyone would see this as the basis for a campaign of hate against the families of Siegel and Shuster - they are only finally getting their due, after all, and about time. It will surely also establish precedents for other creators to be able to pursue a similar path, and that can only be good - if the talent can be sure that they will benefit from good work, then that lets them concentrate on telling the stories and making the pictures we love.

As Rix says, it will now just be a question of WB getting permissions to use whatever elements of the character they need  -they could license them, or even buy out the rights to get them back in house (a bit like the Bond people buying up the Thunderball/ Never Say Never/ Warhead2000 James Bond stuff).

As to a new movie - either spin it out of “Smallville”, which they should have done instead of the abysmal “Supes Returns”, or make a period-y movie in a streamline-art deco world, sort of like the Batman TAS/ Superman cartoon adventures world, and move away from the Christopher Reeve legacy…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven’t a clue why anyone would see this as the basis for a campaign of hate against the families of Siegel and Shuster &#8211; they are only finally getting their due, after all, and about time. It will surely also establish precedents for other creators to be able to pursue a similar path, and that can only be good &#8211; if the talent can be sure that they will benefit from good work, then that lets them concentrate on telling the stories and making the pictures we love.</p>
<p>As Rix says, it will now just be a question of WB getting permissions to use whatever elements of the character they need  -they could license them, or even buy out the rights to get them back in house (a bit like the Bond people buying up the Thunderball/ Never Say Never/ Warhead2000 James Bond stuff).</p>
<p>As to a new movie &#8211; either spin it out of “Smallville”, which they should have done instead of the abysmal “Supes Returns”, or make a period-y movie in a streamline-art deco world, sort of like the Batman TAS/ Superman cartoon adventures world, and move away from the Christopher Reeve legacy…</p>
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		<title>By: James McTeigue Reveals His Superman Reboot Idea - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>James McTeigue Reveals His Superman Reboot Idea - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, Screen Rant Editor Kofi reported on the major Superman news where Warner Brothers lost possession of the rights to the Man of Steel’s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye! A origin story would be meaningless, mostly because it was perfected in the first Supe-movie, and it&#039;s still being done in Smallville. 

What was so perfect about Superman 2, imho, was that it had everything. You had 3 super-villains with the same strenght as Superman, which was a good excuse for a lot of action, but you also had the very essense of rotten human selfishness, greed and evilness in form of Lex Luthor, which shows how that it&#039;s not just muscles Superman has to fight to bring justice to the world.

And we also also had the very down to earth and fun love-story between Lois and Clark, which almost could have been a movie on it&#039;s own. It&#039;s the only movie that really shows how much Superman was in love with Lois, and how much he was willing to give up.

I know most people like no.1 more, but I honestly think the best thing they could do is to do something in the same vein as no. 2 (&#039;cause no. 1 was mostly about the beginning, which only can be done once). Also, I think it&#039;s better for the Superman movies to take more of a Spider-Man approach than Batman Begins, &#039;cause both the original Superman and Spider-Man had a lot more humour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye! A origin story would be meaningless, mostly because it was perfected in the first Supe-movie, and it&#8217;s still being done in Smallville. </p>
<p>What was so perfect about Superman 2, imho, was that it had everything. You had 3 super-villains with the same strenght as Superman, which was a good excuse for a lot of action, but you also had the very essense of rotten human selfishness, greed and evilness in form of Lex Luthor, which shows how that it&#8217;s not just muscles Superman has to fight to bring justice to the world.</p>
<p>And we also also had the very down to earth and fun love-story between Lois and Clark, which almost could have been a movie on it&#8217;s own. It&#8217;s the only movie that really shows how much Superman was in love with Lois, and how much he was willing to give up.</p>
<p>I know most people like no.1 more, but I honestly think the best thing they could do is to do something in the same vein as no. 2 (&#8217;cause no. 1 was mostly about the beginning, which only can be done once). Also, I think it&#8217;s better for the Superman movies to take more of a Spider-Man approach than Batman Begins, &#8217;cause both the original Superman and Spider-Man had a lot more humour.</p>
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		<title>By: KEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. Some reflection came my way, and you know, I was thinking, maybe they don&#039;t HAVE to do the whole origin thing in the next film to get people ON BOARD with Superman. I wuldn&#039;t do a sequel to Returns, but I&#039;d have Supes at the beginning of his career, like maybe it&#039;s his second month in Metropolis and go from there. Just tell a great, action packed story about corrupttion in Metropolois and Supes figuring out how things work and that Luthor (SUPPORTING CHARACTER!!!) runs everything. Throw Brainiace in as the big bad, focus on the reporter dynamic (very real world like, have the filmakers figure out what an actual reporter does, like have the Daily Planet be the only honest, non Luthor owned paper and have the reporters being bribed/threatened to not print/follow certain stories, that could be very interesting) and you got a movie. :-)

Because the first Batman film didn&#039;t do much of an &quot;origin&quot; at all, in fact, we didn&#039;t get a &quot;full origin treatment&quot; for Batman until Begins, and several of the Batman films were very successful, people really liked the first film despite being mostly familiar with only the Batman tv show (i e knowing nothing about Batman). I&#039;m speaking of course about the non comic book fans.

Anyone else agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. Some reflection came my way, and you know, I was thinking, maybe they don&#8217;t HAVE to do the whole origin thing in the next film to get people ON BOARD with Superman. I wuldn&#8217;t do a sequel to Returns, but I&#8217;d have Supes at the beginning of his career, like maybe it&#8217;s his second month in Metropolis and go from there. Just tell a great, action packed story about corrupttion in Metropolois and Supes figuring out how things work and that Luthor (SUPPORTING CHARACTER!!!) runs everything. Throw Brainiace in as the big bad, focus on the reporter dynamic (very real world like, have the filmakers figure out what an actual reporter does, like have the Daily Planet be the only honest, non Luthor owned paper and have the reporters being bribed/threatened to not print/follow certain stories, that could be very interesting) and you got a movie. <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Because the first Batman film didn&#8217;t do much of an &#8220;origin&#8221; at all, in fact, we didn&#8217;t get a &#8220;full origin treatment&#8221; for Batman until Begins, and several of the Batman films were very successful, people really liked the first film despite being mostly familiar with only the Batman tv show (i e knowing nothing about Batman). I&#8217;m speaking of course about the non comic book fans.</p>
<p>Anyone else agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the problem. All WB have to do is pay good money to use whatever ideas they want. If the family are happy with it they&#039;ll just accept a payment and &#039;license&#039; the origins (or whatever ideas they own).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the problem. All WB have to do is pay good money to use whatever ideas they want. If the family are happy with it they&#8217;ll just accept a payment and &#8216;license&#8217; the origins (or whatever ideas they own).</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/superman-legal-battle-origins-kofi-21703/comment-page-1/#comment-121861</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJ, you make a lot of great points.  I think the Superman/Lois piece is so very essential in keeping us women interested.  The butt kicking is a bonus!  

Honestly, I love how he is always so conflicted about her and how to live his life and how he is never able to tell her who he really is, it&#039;s such a great love story.  They need to give Routh another shot and either get a new Lois, or make her performance much better this time, I think she has it in her and maybe being a bit older now would help her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ, you make a lot of great points.  I think the Superman/Lois piece is so very essential in keeping us women interested.  The butt kicking is a bonus!  </p>
<p>Honestly, I love how he is always so conflicted about her and how to live his life and how he is never able to tell her who he really is, it&#8217;s such a great love story.  They need to give Routh another shot and either get a new Lois, or make her performance much better this time, I think she has it in her and maybe being a bit older now would help her.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/superman-legal-battle-origins-kofi-21703/comment-page-1/#comment-121110</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superman returns wasn&#039;t the return of Superman at all! It was a boring movie and a sad story about a sissy loser with super-powers. 

Christopher Reeves&#039; Superman was a gentleman, but also knew how to kick butt. And even after 30 years, it&#039;s still incredibly satisfying to see Superman 2, when he gets all his powers back and gets his and Earth&#039;s revenge. 

That&#039;s the kind of Superman I want to see. Someone kicking butt in the name of justice! Not an endless mess about how he has screwed up his life. The endless love between Superman and Lois is an interesting side story, and makes room for both romance and comedy, but let&#039;s face it; it&#039;s the butt-kicking we love.

A good Superman film is easy to make: Clark Kent is funny and clumsy, and madly in love with Lois. Lois is madly in love with Superman, and thinks Clark is a goofball. Superman is the tough-guy that everybody is amazed about and love, and deals with injustice and crime. And there just needs to be some sort of a main bad guy, and it would be a good idea to put Lex Luthor to rest, since he was perfected by Gene Hackman.

Maybe the best thing about the original two were the way they managed to build up expectations and excitement between the scenes. And how incredibly satisfying it was each time Superman arrived to save the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superman returns wasn&#8217;t the return of Superman at all! It was a boring movie and a sad story about a sissy loser with super-powers. </p>
<p>Christopher Reeves&#8217; Superman was a gentleman, but also knew how to kick butt. And even after 30 years, it&#8217;s still incredibly satisfying to see Superman 2, when he gets all his powers back and gets his and Earth&#8217;s revenge. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the kind of Superman I want to see. Someone kicking butt in the name of justice! Not an endless mess about how he has screwed up his life. The endless love between Superman and Lois is an interesting side story, and makes room for both romance and comedy, but let&#8217;s face it; it&#8217;s the butt-kicking we love.</p>
<p>A good Superman film is easy to make: Clark Kent is funny and clumsy, and madly in love with Lois. Lois is madly in love with Superman, and thinks Clark is a goofball. Superman is the tough-guy that everybody is amazed about and love, and deals with injustice and crime. And there just needs to be some sort of a main bad guy, and it would be a good idea to put Lex Luthor to rest, since he was perfected by Gene Hackman.</p>
<p>Maybe the best thing about the original two were the way they managed to build up expectations and excitement between the scenes. And how incredibly satisfying it was each time Superman arrived to save the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Knight</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/superman-legal-battle-origins-kofi-21703/comment-page-1/#comment-120989</link>
		<dc:creator>Iron Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully this will get Warner moving on to other popular DC comics characters... I couldn`t care less about Superman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully this will get Warner moving on to other popular DC comics characters&#8230; I couldn`t care less about Superman.</p>
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		<title>By: vantheman77</title>
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		<dc:creator>vantheman77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 05:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siegel and Shuster will have the copyrights to Superman as he originally appeared in Action Comics #1, not the iconic one we know.</description>
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		<title>By: stuntmanJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuntmanJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this may cause Warner to leave their superman &quot;comfort zone&quot; of referring to the first two films, which they did in &quot;returns.&quot; And light the creative fire to turn out something great. On the other hand, the possiblity of Marvel having a chance at landing the rights to Superman is amazing, but nearly impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this may cause Warner to leave their superman &#8220;comfort zone&#8221; of referring to the first two films, which they did in &#8220;returns.&#8221; And light the creative fire to turn out something great. On the other hand, the possiblity of Marvel having a chance at landing the rights to Superman is amazing, but nearly impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: KEL</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/superman-legal-battle-origins-kofi-21703/comment-page-1/#comment-120679</link>
		<dc:creator>KEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pissed off. What the next movie NEEDS is a 21st century telling of Superman, origin and all. Similar to the Byrne version/Superman: TAS. And they could have Brainiac as the villain. This is ridiculous....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pissed off. What the next movie NEEDS is a 21st century telling of Superman, origin and all. Similar to the Byrne version/Superman: TAS. And they could have Brainiac as the villain. This is ridiculous&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: LoisLaneROCKS</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/superman-legal-battle-origins-kofi-21703/comment-page-1/#comment-120583</link>
		<dc:creator>LoisLaneROCKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This freaking sucks!!!!  I hope the family causing all this crap starts to get hate mail from Superman fans!

As for the movies, I utterly HATED Superman Returns, that darn kid, and above all, that GOD awful lifeless performance from Bosworth as Lois Lane!!!  

I&#039;d give anything to see a reboot with a better cast and some freaking villains for crying out loud!  Besides Zod &amp; Co. why has it been so dang hard to bring in well known villains to these Superman movies???  ENOUGH with Lex and the whole real estate thing, what about Brainiac, Bizarro, even Livewire?  It just seems hopeless anymore!  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This freaking sucks!!!!  I hope the family causing all this crap starts to get hate mail from Superman fans!</p>
<p>As for the movies, I utterly HATED Superman Returns, that darn kid, and above all, that GOD awful lifeless performance from Bosworth as Lois Lane!!!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d give anything to see a reboot with a better cast and some freaking villains for crying out loud!  Besides Zod &amp; Co. why has it been so dang hard to bring in well known villains to these Superman movies???  ENOUGH with Lex and the whole real estate thing, what about Brainiac, Bizarro, even Livewire?  It just seems hopeless anymore!  <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mandarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see an alternate universe Superman on the horizon.</description>
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