There are a lot of dynamic duos on television these days: Gordon and Bullock, Glazer and Jacobson, Stonebridge and Scott, but few can match up to Specter and Ross.

Over the years, Suits has taken its star partnership and flipped it on its head more times than the law-firm has changed names (well, almost as many). Now, heading into season 5, Screen Rant got a chance to sit down with stars Gabriel Macht and Patrick J. Adams to see where things currently stand with the two New York City lawyers.

Gabriel Macht

Concerning his first reactions when learning Donna and Harvey would be splitting up in the new season, Macht said:

I think it’s great because it provides a different context for the show. I personally don’t think you should see main characters get together because as soon as they do, the mystery’s sort of gone. I like that push and pull thing. None of us are on the same page of how it all should be played out, so I think that lends really well to the material. Some people think we should be together, some people don’t think we should be together, the writers are writing that we should be together, and those are just examples. I might think we should be together but I’m playing against it, and [Sarah Rafferty] might think that we shouldn’t be together but the writers… do you see what I’m saying? It’s like a real maze, and I know that sounds very confusing, but for some reason, I think it’s actually really working for the show.

It’s played out really well, and I think what it does is shift the dynamic for season 5, [in order to give] us more space to figure out what [Harvey telling Donna he loves her] really means. It allows for Louis and Donna to work together, and it allows Harvey to explore this bigger picture thing, which is where we’re starting this season as far as his abandonment issues. I think we’ve posed this question early on about people abandoning him. He’s trying to work out some things about his past and how it works into his present.

On whether or not Macht was happy to finally be diving into the conflicted side of Harvey, the actor answered:

Yeah, that’s great because it’s really challenging. I thought it was really dynamic stuff. Harvey is a very cut and dry, says it like it is [kind of guy], and uses his confidence to cover so much of what’s really going on inside of him. So, to see that character actually go through something that doesn’t make him look like a superhero, I think, is awesome. It’s challenging for me to play as an actor. It allows me to explore some of those ideas in myself where I’m just totally insecure and trying to figure out my way, and I think it’s great to see him, sort of, break.

suits harvey ‘Suits: Gabriel Macht & Patrick J. Adams on Harvey & Mike in Season 5

But, given that, is Harvey capable of having a happy ending in his personal life despite achieving nearly everything he’s pined for in his professional one?

I think he has the potential of that. I think he needs to understand, himself, what it means to be independent, to trust someone, to know that people have faults, to know that people are going to move on, that they’re going to change their lives and to be okay with that. We’re slowly getting into the bigger picture of this abandonment issues, and I hope we explore it further in regards to Harvey’s mom. I think once he gets the full picture of how all of that went down in his past, maybe he’ll be more settled. Maybe he’ll be able to trust a little bit more that someone might be moving on with their life but not necessarily leaving him. He is a narcissist, [though], let’s be clear, so it’s going to be very hard for him to understand that.

As for the changing dynamics of the show from season to season, the actor elaborated:

I think [the writers] probably do look at it like a chess game. Some people are pawns, and some people are mating, and some people are checking on each other. I think it’s a way to keep it alive. I think it’s a way to figure out how to shift the dynamics on a show, and I think they’ve done it pretty well.

Then, finally, on the dynamic of Harvey and Mike’s relationship in the new season, Macht stated:

There are some moments where you see Harvey really torn up and completely unbalanced. He’s pretty much untethered throughout these first six episodes, and Mike definitely steps up and confronts conflict head on and in a way that’s fully capable, and you see Harvey’s trust in him get a rise. You see his support in him. Mike is sensitive to Harvey’s journey in these episodes, and I think Harvey respects that. He’s not a guy who outwardly thanks people, but he tries here and there and then quickly gets off the subject because it becomes to intimate for him, I think.

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