• Rhys Paul Hovey
    Ben "The Ratt" Daglish (and Antony "Ratt" Crowther) may be an undercover FBI agent, or in a lot of trouble, for having taken a "bait trail" that leads to ESI, Paul Allen, Rob Hubbard, and L Ron Hubbard,.. making a song called "footballer of the year",. as this is a linguistic "puzzle piece" of a very large operations against "thought control" technology, and their victims, children, in many cases, because of the home computer and it's toylike nature, and now vast criminal empire. Look up the RADIO CONTROLLED MEGA PIRATE,. and RHYS PAUL HOVEY, for the "trail" that is being send from england, through ROGER WATERS: about thought control technology,. JAMES CAMERON, STEVEN SPIELBERG,BILL GATES,. many people "implicated" in this "trail" either way this trail leads,. it stems from "mind control" and "thought control" technology, and artists that would hide it from children, in order to be exploited by signals attack. They apparently worked with Mirrorsoft, and GREMLIN graphics a lot, Paul Allen, on BASIC.
  • Rhys Paul Hovey
    Please go look at the history for JAMES CAMERON,. Kile Reese character,. he is LOADED to the max with the trail,. project 880,. the T-800,. CYBERDYNE systems, in my hometown of FREDERICTON,. Rhys Paul Hovey,.
  • Rhys Paul Hovey
    you can get it all from GE now,. they have pig power problems:

    http://www.gereports.com/got-pigs-ge-has-power-...
  • Rhys Paul Hovey
    Hi,.. Rhys Paul Hovey here,. former EA employee and expert in several areas mentioned,. I just sent my complaint to the federal trade commission about NATAL,.. and it just so happens that I live on NATAL street too! Just a rocks throw away from DON MATRIX's old stomping grounds,. EA Burnaby,. this device is the most filthy attempt at a cover up or something that I have ever seen,. it has been announced that this device will be under SOFTWARE control, now,. which will leave no evidence behind , as if it would have been hardware chip controlled,. with the vast ARRAY of sensors on this device, it is not only capable of determining which kids are fat, ugly, and the specific flaws on their faces, noses, ears, chins, eyebrows,. with the right programming,. (and yes SOFTWARE programming) this device is able to perform BRAIN COMPUTER INTERFACE without wires, and do SUBVOCAL SPEECH RECOGNITION,. where it is able to get phonetic information from your larynx nerves without the need to have our mouth moving,. (see www.theaudeo.com for more info),. this device WILL leak your children biometrics to marketers,. ADVERTISING, ADVERTISING ADVERTISING,. is what Steve Balmer, former CEO of MAKEUP company PROCTOR AND GAMBLE,. had to say,. do not trust this device, unless you COMPLETELY remove the xbox360's WIFI connector, and ETHERNET,. it can buffer the image of your child, and wait until it is logged in,. remember xbox supports facebook, so then they will know your identity and your flaws,. not to mention your inner insecurities,. for more information on 'thought control" see ROGER WATERS:RADIO KAOS,. and "live8",.. something much worse is going on with DON MATRIX and PROJECT NATAL,. I would not let my kid anywhere near this thing,. please contact the FBI,. microsoft is ready to GIVE this thing to your kids,. they just want them to use it ONCE even,. marketed directly at Children,. they want to get caught even.
  • Richard
    I like the PS3 version better, they have a motion controller they are working on that the PS3 EYE can see and react to, like if your holding it, in game your holding a sword or gun or whatever, I like the idea of having a controller in my hand with buttons I can press, etc. Just jumping around is too gimmicky for me, here is a link to the E3 of the demo for the PS3 version which I think has more real actual fun applications then project Natal.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgLN7uOj8Jg&...
  • Sock Monkey
    @ Daniel

    Lol, I get it, man, and yes it was getting a little repetitive.
  • Daniel F
    Don't worry about the long gaps. Not everyone is as sad and pathetic as me with no life what so ever lol. It's not that there were personal attacks or anything and the debate was fun, but lets face it we were going no where at all with it. It was turning in to "It could work" "NO it can't" "It could work" "No it Can't" and then followed by a simultaneous "MOM" lol.
  • 1984
    Microsoft will watch you in your home with Project Natal. 1984 has come to pass.
  • Sock Monkey
    @Daniel

    I'm kind of sorry you feel that way Dan, I kind of enjoyed our three day long discussion/debate. (Incidentally, I apologize for the twelve-hour gaps between my posts.) In the sense that it was a debate about facts, not an arena of personal attacks some internet blogs can become. And I'm afraid you're right, I suppose I will be stuck in this mindset until I see for a fact that Natal can work with anything. So in conclusion, thanks for the debate. :)
  • Dante
    Look guys its very simple. this is probably a type of thing that does give you a lot of games that are are interactive but its not like all the games will be. so for hardcore gaming like Halo or COD you would still most likely use the controller, or they will at least let you decide between the two. if they didn't then most people would never buy this.
  • Daniel F
    Anyway it's clear that we are just going in circles you just seem to be stuck in your mind set and it's getting pointless. So we should probably just end it.
  • Daniel F
    Andy just gave the absolute perfect solution. "Run" "Stop" it's fairly easy and you wouldn't need to jog in place at all. It works just fine for hardcore games. I'm sorry, but I consider my self a hardcore player and I think this will work excellent. I don't play first person, but I play a lot of third person shooters, RPGs, Sports games and various action adventure things and I find that just about every game I've ever played could work with this.
  • Sock Monkey
    @ Andy and Daniel

    Those are both good ideas to counter the jogging in place, but my point is that neither of those could be incorporated into a hardcore game. When playing Halo I need to have a split second response time, and not be tired from all that jogging in order to; shall we say, defeat the enemy. The whole "jogging in place" thing, though it would work, for people who 'really' get into FPS, something else would have to be done.
    So, though it is extremely innovative, it will still have issues with hardcore games.
  • Daniel F
    Another good point Andy.
  • Andy S
    Wasn't the person in the vid using voice controls? So in a FPS the person could say "walk" or "jog" and the character would move while the person playing can control other things such as direction and pointing the weapon.
  • Daniel F
    So after and hour switch to a controller and sit for a spell. It's not really that complicated of an issue. Not to mention the incorporate a simple two button controller to make you run if you wanted so you can still control the movements, but the controller controls the running so all you have to do is turns or side step/walk. There are a million things that could be done to counter any problem that you run in to.
  • 790
    @Sock Monkey, lol, that's the day I stop playing video games. Running in place ??? No thanks.

    There's nothing wrong with the controllers. Here we go again with improving something that doesn't need improving.

    Maybe Natal comes with optional treadmill,,,
    No thanks!!! Lame!!
  • Sock Monkey
    @Daniel

    But how would you move in FPS? That's the biggest problem I have with Natal, is that moving would require you to actually walk or job in place. Though it is exercising, I must reiterate the point that people can play FPSs more than an hour at a time. After an hour of that I just don't see how you'd be able to continue. The only other option with Natal is using your second hand to maneuver, causing you to give up more control over your character.
  • Daniel F
    I disagree I think any game could be kept hardcore with Natal. In fact it would open up some games for people. Personally like I said before I hate First person shooters for multiple reasons, but the number one reason is the controls I hate moving the character around in first person. This will open up genres to people who didn't like them before because controlling is better for that person. I will actually play a first person game with Natal. I don't see any game that this wouldn't work with. Think over all the over complicated controls for these games just to take cover or turn really fast. Now all you gotta do is duck or turn your own body. I agree that there are days you just want to sit back and relax and that's why I said there should be an option to go either way, but most of the time I'd rather be using Natal given the option. There really is no genre that it can't work with that I can think of.
  • Sock Monkey
    @Daniel

    And I agree with most of that, however, there are certain games that are just physically impossible to keep hardcore with the Natal.
  • Daniel F
    Sock Monkey not every one is like you. I can honestly say I would play a lot of my games with this thing rather than traditional control and I'm sure they will give the option to turn it up and just use a controller on those days your just terribly tired. I can honestly me and my friends all plan on using this thing for just about every game it will let us. If it were just a party device I wouldn't at all be excited I think party games are retarded and I don't play them.
  • Phil G
    I can appreciate that 790.

    However the idea of possibly walking through a virtual fantasy world is pretty appealing. And it IS exercise. It's better than sitting on the computer all the time and growing fat.

    This is especially good for children that they're starting to have more interactive technology like this.
  • 790
    Not only the world Phil G, but the military as well.
    This new technology is old hat, the military has had this type of interface for years. ^
    Personally I'm in no mood to physically articulate more than my thumbs when I play games at home.
    I'll stick with my controller thanks.
  • Phil G
    If the millions of people everywhere standing still and frozen due to their cell phones are any indication, machines have ALREADY started ruling the world.

    Jokes aside, this certainly looks impressive. Heh, and the Wii thought they had beaten out the competition. Not so fast, my friends--!!!

    The future is here, gentlemen and ladies.
  • Manowar
    Natal means Christmas in Portuguese. I wonder if that was intentional...
  • Sock Monkey
    @ Daniel & Ross

    I'm not saying that games like Halo, or Unreal wouldn't be cool with it; being able to twist your body and having the game react almost exactly what your doing would help tremendously. But the fact is that would you really want to play games like Halo, where I'd think the only way to walk around in the game without giving up other controls would be jogging in place? I can usually play a stretch of FPS for at least a couple hours. Now it may just be me, but I wouldn't want to be jogging for that long, or doing something extraneous. The sad fact is that some times what I want to do after getting home from work is sit on the couch and veg. This is why I can only see it being an addition rather than a next gen device.
  • Awesome Fool
    If you're looking forward to Project Natal, check out http://www.project-natal.com for the latest news around the web.
  • Daniel F
    Well the fact of the matter is Ross they have already showed people playing a game with sword fights that could of been an RPG or an action adventure game. Either way it's not just a simple party tool it's already been made for games that people play alone at home. They have also showed people using it on a skate board game. I mean the guy puts his personal board up to the computer it scans it lets him use it in the game and then he does all the tricks and jumps on his own. I'm a total Playstation fan boy. I mean I own both the systems, but I prefer PS3 however with this Xbox just won some major points. All that Sony has managed to develop is a better Wii controller. They developed something that is very similar to the Wii controller only it works better. Not really able to compare that to what Microsoft just announced. My point is they have already showed people playing non party games with Natel so it's already not just a simple party thing. Maybe shooting games are a bit off, but they can easily incorporate RPGs and other action adventure type games. They have also shows sports games like Skating and Race car driving.
  • @Daniel f & Sock Monkey,

    I agree with Sock Monkey (there's a statement I never thought I'd say, because of the name :P ) that it would be BETTER for party games for what it's being showcased as at the moment, but also agree with Daniel f that the basic principle of what Project Natal is has virtually endless possibilities. Like you say, Daniel, imagine playing Halo or Unreal Tournament and you're the one actually moving and turning, holding your arms up like you're holding a gun... wait, isn't that the plot for the Gerard Butler film 'Gamer'? :P Maybe that Gamer world will become a reality in ten years thanks to Project Natal he he :P
  • EnglishGavz
    So can you do any, well, real games with it. As much as kicking and painting will be a kick at first I can imagine the amusement whereing thin very quickly. Can you play more main stream stuff with games that involve shooting and stuff?
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