Stargate Universe Premiere Overnight Rating Numbers

I loved both SG1 and SGA, however SGA became sooo corny sometimes. Reminded me of, gasp, Eureka at times! I did enjoy it though. Even bought the DVD's for all SG1 and SGA. I think the show has drifted since it first started. What was once a very imaginable setting, has turned into a corny joke. Some of Atlantis was Amazing but then there was the Filler episodes that were completely stupid. None the less, I think its BS they had to cancel it to have a "budget" to create SGU. They have the money! The viewers would have ensured that. I don't see how these two separate series (considering SGU's situation) would have conflicted story wise. I think they killed SGA because they are moving forward with a different approach, which I have to admit I like.

SGU is great!! Freakin LOVE IT, can't wait till April 2010 when its back on. Its dark, gritty, stuff DOESNT magically go right, characters that you come to know actually die, unlike John Smith the soldier, and some people are actually unhappy because there is no magical McKay to rewire the ships computer. Thats realistic! Yes I wish there was a little bit more action in the first few episodes but I am having faith they are gaining momentum. I feel as though the show has matured and I don't really give a crap about the 18yr old audience. They were born around the time the SG movie started it all lol. I'm 28 btw not that it matters.

I consider it this way: SG1=Batman1, Atlantis=Batman2, SGU=Batman Begins. Think about it, happy ever after stories and cars driving on the side of buildings was nicely replaced by bridge jumpers and real ninjas... hello! lol

Its a nice fresh restart of a great story that started to get a little cheesy don't you think? Do you? Do...you? But anyways I also can't wait for the SGA Extinction movie, hope IMDB isnt lying to me ;)

Long Live SGU!!!!!!!!!

I agree with you Sam, but the rumor is that with the next SG1 & Atlantis movies they will be tieing in SGU into the plot and story line in a big way, in an attempt to force feed the old fans, the producers seem to think that if they put crap out there and keep it out there, that the fans will eventually eat it up.

I will watch witch ever movie come out first, and if they tie in SGU I will be quiting the franchise completely!

I wish they would cancel SGU already and just make the Atlantis Extinction movie.

To be honest, I don't think that is ever going to happen.

Hey guys,

i'm really sad what they did with the sg-franchise.
i can assure everyone that millions of sg fans worldwide are furious over this crappy turn syfy has called for.

please come over to http://www.sgusucks.com and express your doubts and your anger. sign our petition, it's worth it.

thx for reading!!

I've stop watching this soft porn soap opera. I am a sucker for science fiction, but this one is so non-sci-fi and boring (boring even as a soap) that I have to give up watching.

I'm liking the series so far. I stopped watching Atlantis because they just made everything too easy-let the genius save everybody. It actually became a parody of itself in my opinion. This series is being more realistic-I refuse to believe that one can simply gate to a ship & figure out how to operate it instantly. Figuring out the shuttle was really pushing it.

That being said, I don't think they can continue the frentic intense tone indefinitely. BSG couldn't. I don't see the series lasting beyond 3 seasons without a change in pace.

But regarding the time loop show, is it just me or did they screw up by having the team find anything other than the orb? As I understand the plot, the orb is the only thing that should've done the time loop, so there shouldn't have been a skull or bodies (seen in the video). Of course, I was well into a bottle of wine when I was watching this, so perhaps I'm wrong.

This is an bad project, bad story line..For one thing it should be called destiny because it is more about that old gloomy ship and they hardly use the stargate..The characters are whinny with no real substance..The characters don't clilck together and sex and shower scenes and watching people exercise does not equal a good series and under scores the achievements of the first two SG series.. Hope they make a series true to the Stargate name...

I will never watch the scifi channel again until SGA or SG1 is brought back PERIOD!!!

This show is amazingly boring. Star Gate is going down the drain.

I did not watch last week, I have quit, as I was not entertained by the show, SG1 and Atlantis were very adventurous and fun, I miss that in the franchise.

I'm going to give this show a little more time. They need to get rid of this BSG feel, IMHO, and have Eli do more genius stuff. Maybe they can have some episodes about other ships that have malfunctioned and had some type of identity crisis or something. This soap-opera crap is going to loose me if they keep it up.

If they brought Sg1 back we wouldn't like it (at least not at first) because it wouldn't be the show we know and love. I'm not sure about Atlantis but if the actors changed drastically it would be the same story. WE can't help comparing that which is with what was and since we loved those shows they are hard act to follow. So we have one most of us agree misses the mark. It's boring us to death. But could it be good? Could the mad Doctor get over himself and start teaching others what he knows of the ancients and maybe let others have a little input on things.
The kid is obviously a lazy genius. Could he be sparked to actually do more. Although I must say he has done the most so far. He hasn't learned yet the balls are probalbly the intellegence gatherers for the ship and once they have gathered all their intellegence the ship will start doing what it needs to make the inhabitants comfortable and find places for them to explore. WE can hope they put the personal drama as secondary to the action that we know is going to happen when they start finding places to explore. SG1 had lots of personal drama it just didn't dominate the story lines. Maybe they could find on one of their stops a person to bring life to the party. Claudia Black helped a lot After Richard Dean Anderson left. While the other actors were really great they just didn't have that spark and she helped revive that. Cut the drama and start the action. We're bored out here in viewer land. Save our Gate World.

Yes, this show is realy boring. I have also watched all SG1 and Atlantis and I don't like this Stargate release. I wish to watch SG:Atlantis (Stargate: Extinction) movie instead. They should cancel Universe series and do continue Atlantis or do some more actionfull series in Stargate world.

I suspect that the ship has an AI that learns. How much they allow it to learn will set the adventure value of the show. They could have went for some short term attention by leaving the shuttle behind. Perhaps upping the drama as the star ship crew tried to make it go back. But they've chose to leave the audience in the dark a little longer as to how much control these people have over the ship and their lives. As you say Brenda the story is getting soapy. They risk one sector of the audience to try to interest another. Keeping people waiting for this show to payoff is kind of selfish. Maybe it would be better to let it go and watch it on rerun? Bruce will keep everyone clued in as long as we keep coming to ScreenRant right??

Yah, just watched the latest episode, just as dumb as the rest of them so far... Should I bother to keep watching? Oh, decisions decisions...

I watched last night at 12pm I set the recorder for it, with SG1 and Atlantis I couldnt wait and always watched it live first run,

I only watched to see if I guessed the show from the 30 second preview from last week, the ship headed for a star, disater was billed, but I immeadatly thought no just a solar recharge, yep I was spot on, the acting continues as weak and lame, lack of adventure. I cant even remember the preview for next week, so it must have been lame, I have deleted the weekly record command from my DVR. I think I am done with this show.

If I understand Anonymous Exec we can look forward to more character drama and development and the adventure can be found in this aspect of the story line. Sounds like a soap opera in space to me and except for the run in with the star we were still watching character angst of the type found on soap operas and frankly they are the most boring things on tv. I do keep watching but it reminds me of a movie I watched when I was young. I didn't like the movie but no one spoke in it. I kept watching it to see if any one ever said anything. I keep watching this to see if it might possibly have something good in it. If it is planned as a space opera especially one as dark as BSG I think I will have to give up.. By the way The star encounter was totally predictable. It was the outcome I figured would happen. I mean what else? It was an ancient's ship and had been flying for thousands of years. Of course it would know how to regenerate itself. Someone said the science was what is missing from this show. Well, in part, yes, but where oh where is the wit and humour of sgl and to a lesser degree sga. There is no wit, no humour and not a lot of intellegence in this series. Ho hum. Hope it gets better before I forget where it is on my tv.

Oops, I meant episode 5. Hey David James why didn't you catch that? ;)

I loved all the Star Trek series, then along came the Stargate movie. I was so happy as were many others that they made a series SG-1. Ten seasons and was stronger than ever to me but along came Atlantis and I was slow to receive. Once I got used to it and the characters I began to enjoy it. Right when I am most into it bam, it's gone and now SGU which like with Atlantis I will give a chance for a while. There is nothing else and I don't want the whole thing going down a dark hole. jim

Well tonight was episode four. Does the show strike out? No big deal how it ended. I think it was funny how the cast basically rated their own episode at the end! :) :)

All press releases billed sg1 going out on top, and the same for atlantis!

Thats why the majority of fans were outraged at both cancelations, Atlantis was doing very well, and was cancelled to make room for the pet project Universe, Aug 20th 2009 Atlantis cancellation, Aug21st 2008 Universe green lit.

Either show could come back, but when Universe dies, I think MGM will let the franchise die.

Sg1 had a contract for season 10 and 11, both years were renewed at the same time at the end of season 9, but SG1 was cancelled after 10th season, a huge fan campaign insued, after a few weeks we were promised 2 to 3 direct to dvd movies a year, with the first 2 to come out summer & fall 2007, we did not get either one till 2008, and none since, by now we should have had 6 to 9 at the promised rate of 2 to 3 a year, 2007, 2008, 2009, and now 2010 looks empty as well, MGM just lied to the fans in an attempt to shut us up, inspite of how we have been treated, we would become loyal viewers again if either series was to return, otherwise the franchise is headed for death.

SG1 really can not be resurected. The Ark of Truth completed the Ori story arc and Continuum completed the Goa'uld story arc with the death of the System Lord Ba'al. Continuum's ending kept the Stargate story continuing which is why the movie was titled Continuum but not with SG1.

Stargate Atlantis had many problems with their character drama stories which led to viewer rejection of the series. The first critical change was making the origins of the Wraiths, Alterans, bitten by a bug with their DNA changed where the Alterans were changed into Wraiths. This directly conflicted with what the female Alteran in the holo room gave the SGA team the history of what happened to them. This was done to give the character Dr. Becket a major role in the stories and was done for the Michael story arc. As the Alteran said in the holoroom, they came to Pegasus Galaxy and encountered the Wraith, a race that rivaled them.

From there the series stories suffered from a lack of credibility with the viewers. Franchise fans, used to SG1 not using ancient technology, baffling even the countries top scientists, rejected SGA seemingly easy use of it. An aspect the writers felt viewers would overlook in favor of character drama. This resulted in viewer backlash against the character Rodney McKay and later the resurrected Dr. Beckett. All resulting in the series being cancelled after the 5th season.

The return of Atlantis to Earth is where the storyline for SGU is derived from. It is the study of Atlantis and the information in the Atlantis database, by the scientists that the knowledge of a 9th chevron, the seeder ships and "Destiny" as well as what these ships are for is learned. The Alterans quest for Ascension and how they studied the evolutionary path of life towards Ascension.

This is where the Stargate Franchise sits right now. SGU is really about a scientist's quest for answers to the fundamental questions of life that brought them to the Destiny ship with a unwittingly and reluctant group. The writers had hoped that the character stories about the individuals on Destiny with the series story arc backdrop of the Alterans of quest of Ascension through the understanding the evolutionary path of life. Character drama of the conflicts between a diverse group of people who stand on the deck of a ship which seeks the answers to fundamental question of life and though that Ascension [which is supposed to be the same conflicts encountered in earths many and varied religions beliefs of what path if the right path to Enlightenment and Ascension].

SGU imo, failed to make clear to viewers, that this is what SGU is all about thus the viewers can watch that story unfold through character drama and want to watch where the writers take us as that story unfolds.

Anonymous Exec

Thanks for the reply, SG1 could continue with Ben Bowder & Claudia Black, and only 1 or 2 origanal members the first year.

If cast members are not interested in returning, then the present Universe will kill the franchise on TV, may be best to let the gate franchise die, I hate to say that as much as I love SG1 and Atlantis, but Universe sucks, and I have no desire to watch it anymore.

Rumors are begining to fly about Trek returning to TV, If this happens that may satisfy our needs for a Good weekly scifi series!

Amanda Tapping, Richard Dean Anderson, Michael Shanks and Christopher Judge are, from my understanding, not available for any commitment to an extended series. Trying to bring back SG1 or SGA is similar to trying to bring back Firefly. As Nathon Fallon said, "Ain't ever going to happen".

Since the second season hasn't been shot yet nor has MGM, SyFy execs given the go ahead to shot a second season, changes in format for the second season can be made. While there will be less empahsis on character drama, I expect that there will be more "action" and more mythology/history as well that was the success of SG1 and in the first 1 1/2 seasons of SGA still with the "gritty" character drama SyFy hopes will attract critical acclaim and non franchise viewers.

What Stargate Universe should have been!
Exploring the Gate Universe!

To put it simple “Gate of the week”
Made up of 12 episodes of SG1 and 12 Episodes of Atlantis. Rotate every other week.
With one spin off attempt each year to test the waters for a replacement series when needed, and when needed 4 or 6 episodes of a replacement show in a given year, and mix it in with the rotation of SG1 and Atlantis, when time for a replacement.

Some Episodes for year one of SGC Unless otherwise noted episodes are 1 hour.

1. SG1: (2 hour) Old Asgard out post discovered with an underground base, a ship building Facility with 2 partially built ships!

2. Atlantis: (2 hour) Takes up where series left off at earth, with 2,000 people mostly scientists,occuping the,city. It becomes a fully functional with the discovery of how to build ZPMs in the citys data base, back to Pegasas to establish a base there, which will continue to utilize the chain of stargates.

3. SG1: One of the Asgard ships is near completion, when a single replicator is discovered, is it alive? Are there More?

4. Atlantis: Revisits the rouge Replicator’s Friend Or Foe? (more human than replicator, due to the virus Roddeny uploaded to them, with Dr Wier, Will they become allies in establishing a perminate base in pegasas?

5. SG1: An Old Enemy thought to be gone forever returns........ A Clone or the real Mcoy? Not Ball But _________?, Baal had him cloned, to double the pain!

6. Atlantis: The planet that had the sister city ship to Atlantis is re-visited, and found that the wrath had wiped out all inhabitants of the planet, no survivors, the city is found to be in better condition that previously thought, and becomes the main base for earths presence in this galaxy, after eleminating the wrath outpost.

7. Spin off attempt #1 (2hr) Alternate Possibilities, Premise#1. each week past episodes of SG1 and or Atlantis are retold, in a parallel universe. Premise #2. Using the mirror device SG7 exploers a different alternate reality each week.

These are just a few ideas off the cuff, there are still a lot of new stories to tell, also a lot of stories touched on in past episodes that could be expanded on, Meeting the Furlings, Getting to know the Nox better, over 300 past episodes to tap and enlarge on!

Just a Gate Fans 2 cents worth!

Anonymous Exec

It would not surprise me if they pull it before the 10th episode airs, it will be no loss.

I did watch the first 2 weeks, and cannot bear anymore.

If MGM & SyFy want to fix this mess, all they have to do is bring either SG1 or Atlantis back, and stick to what works, the old saying goes if it an't broke dont fix it.

There is still a huge amount of story left in either SG1 or Atlantis, the city was huge and still has much exploration, and it rarely had 3 ZPMs the knowledge to build more is in the cities data base, They could make them power the star drive up and move the city several times a year, each time a new adventure.

The Asgard knowledge also is a vast area for discovery and exploration.

The possibilities for either Sg1 or Atlantis are endless!

As the article indicates, many franchise fans and some new fans tuned in to watch SGU. Over on the Gateworld web site, there are heated debates on the longevity of SGU based upon the 3 part pilot and 1st episode titled Darkness.

While the actors of SGU and the publicity agents for SGU all say that SGU is totally different from previous franchise series, that SGU a character drama, chock full of intellectual intrigue that requires thinking, and give it a chance, the negative reaction to SGU as boring, slow, lacking an understandable plot from franchise fans indicates that SGU will reflect in a continuing drop in viewers over the coming weeks and months.

I don't see MGM and SyFy renewing SGU for another season based upon the negative reaction from franchise fans and some BSG/Lost/Heros viewers.

Hey Copenhagen What did you think about "Enterprise's" ways of addressing technology that's prior to TOS? Didn't it seem a little strange they were using pushbutton doors for example, while we're using auto open doors all over the place today? I think their were a lot of missed opportunities to tell stories that would have made the whole "Enterprise" series much better and at the core of these are the way things got bas akwards on technology issues? They could have made up a whole line of thinking about the idea of duotronics, for example, and how it was slow to come to fruition and how deep space travel for humanity was problematic, because cosmic radiation ate away at stuff. They explored some of that with the expanse stories but they were reluctant or unable to make the right choices in writing good Science Fiction in these veins. Doing that is considered in some circles, a dead or dieing art. Don't know how you feel about such issues, but I thought it detracted from "Enterprise as much as it was a mistake to take so much of the cowboy out of the Captain's role.

I'm trying not to look like a big defender of this new series. I see a-lot that's not up to scratch. This fourth episode though did leave me with some impressions that weren't as apparent in the first three. I don't think this Scientist, Dr. Rush is evil or bad just misunderstood. He seems to be coming across as a double analytical, unlike McKay, Jackson, or Carter, even Baltar all who had expressive sides to their characters. This guy has more in common with Mr. Spock or a Dr. Oppenheimer with perhaps as the other science character said at the end a Mozart like arrogance/madness.

One of the things this Stargate series might do is make you work. Your not going to be able to strip mine this series you going to have to dig!

After watching the first three episodes, I have to say I am really not impressed. The show is soooooo slow, lacks direction, and the quality of acting really leaves something to be desired. I was excited by the hype, and now it's time to let the stargate franchise die. Welcome to Star Trek Voyager, a la Stargate.

SGU=BSG. And since I refused to watch BSG as I generally prefer a minimum of overblown Drama (capital 'D') in my life I will cheerfully take a pass at this crap too. I WILL be turning the channel and the PVR will not be set. (Yes I watched the damn premier.)

As for "Why the hate?" They killed SGA so they could attract a "younger, hipper audience". All they did was allienate a loyal audience for an inferior knockoff.

I am also bitter that the SGA movie we were promised is being shuffled off to limbo land as the producers try valiantly to convince the Stargate fans who (like myself) have watched and enjoyed SG1 and SGA for fifteen years to embrace this sh*t.