What Did You Think Of Star Trek? (Spoiler Discussion)
May 8, 2009 by Vic HoltremanNeed a place to talk about the Star Trek movie, including spoilers? Come on in…
Regular Screen Rant reader “790″ suggested I set up a discussion post for the Star Trek movie, where people can feel free to talk about all aspects of the film without having to worry about spoiling it for others. I had meant to set one of these up for Wolverine but just never got around to it.
Considering how popular I think Star Trek will be (moreso than Wolvie), I thought it might be a good idea to get this set up ASAP. 
So discuss the film below to your heart’s content!
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@ Steve:
Whoops! I think I made a mistake.
The TOS episode about Janet Leslie was called ‘Turnabout Intruder’…not sure what ‘The Man Trap’ was, have to look that one up.
But I am dead sure the one about Bones’ old GF Nancy was ‘The Unreal McCoy’, I’ll never forget that one…
Later, gotta go Google that last one,
JOHN
@ Steve
About HIV/AIDS, I know this statement will irk a lot of people, you included, and I know that this statement doesn’t apply to ALL of the people with HIV/AIDS, but I have a bit less sympathy toward a disease or condition that was a result of somebody’s action. Meaning they had to DO something to get it, such as intravenous drugs or unprotected sex. I have more sympathy toward conditions where the person has no control over it such as cancer, MS, Huntingtons, etc. I’ve done Cancer walks, donated a lot of my hard earned money to charities for these things. Never a cent to HIV/AIDS.
Yes I know there are some unfortunate children born with it from their parents, or some who contracted it from tainted blood, etc. etc. but these are more exceptions to the rule than anything else, and it’s not like I can specify when I’m donating my money that I want it to only go to them…
Ok, I can smell the flames coming, lol.
@ All:
Y’all know the sad thing, people? I just looked at the clock, and I’ve been at this for EIGHT HOURS on a Saturday night…
How pathetic is THAT?
Hahahahaha, can’t speak for your, Katherine, our ‘enjenue’, don’t know what it is on the other side of the International Dateline!
I think I’ll go see JJ-Trek again tomorrow, a matinee…
JOHN
@Johnny
LOL, yah man, go out and party. I’m stuck at work on a saturday night while my girlfriend is out partying, lol. She’s Nigerian (yes, I’m Chinese, she’s Nigerian, lol) and she’s partying however Nigerians party… And I’m stuck here, talking Star Trek and politics with guys online, pretty sad… It’s 3:30am here where I am…
@ Ken:
I’m glad yu said what you said, you should feel free to –
But not being a doctor (I think ‘old Doc’ has given up the ghost for bed, bless his heart), all I can say is what he said a few posts back – Remember the Hippocratic Oath. What would Bones do?
Okay, none of my business, but that’s my two cents.
Oh, and I almost forgot –
@ Steve (whenever you see this):
Did I see that you typed that James Doohan was from Canada???
Was he at least ethnically Scottish? AT ALL???
BLASPHEMY!!!
Hahahaha, I just have to believe he was a Scot! HOOT, Mon!
Wow, that’s like saying Jim Kirk had troubel gettin’ girls…
JOHN
@Johnny
Oh, don’t get me wrong, even though I disagree with almost everything Steve has said, I’m glad we have someone like him as a doctor. It sounds like he really cares about everyone, some doctors are clearly just in it for the money. While personally, I feel that regardless of motivation, as long as they get the job done, whatever works in motivating someone to do a job well, it’s fine with me. But it’s still nice to have someone who actually cares…
I am trying to be a cop. Where I live, cops get paid pretty “comfortable” salaries. I mean, you won’t get rich doing it, but you won’t starve either. But while my main motivation for wanting to be a cop is to serve my community, if the salary was so horrible that I’ll be suffering, I probably wouldn’t be very motivated to put myself at risk if they’re not even going to reward me for it.
Ah, I go do my biology homework and now I have so much to catch up on here.
@ Steve
I’m jealous of your season-ticket holderness! I wish I lived in a city big enough to show big musicals ); But I LOVE Rent! Omg I love the music, I love the story, I cry every time, I often listen to “Will I” on repeat for several hours. That movie gives me goosebumps, it’s like my lifes ambition to see it live!
As for acting, I love acting too, I do drama and if music doesn’t work out for me, acting would be my second choice, lol. Go me for loving careers that are near impossible to sucessfully break into. Oh and pretty sure I would consider myself the luckiest person alive to be able to be in a ST movie.
@ Ken J
You comment about Rent creates a great deal of outrage and sadness in me, and I think I would get too upset arguing about it, so I shall simply say that I disagree with you, A LOT.
@ Steve again
Whilst I love musicals I haven’t actually got that much knowledge about a lot of them… Sometimes I feel ashamed to call myself a musical lover. Have you seen Wicked? So far I think it’s only being shown in one city in all of Australia and unfortunately I don’t live there and don’t have the funds to get there -.- However my brother has seen it and his descriptions have made me desperate to see it.
@ John
Unfortunately I haven’t seen Le Mis! It was in my city like two years ago before I realised how much I love musicals so I missed it *cries in a corner* So I can’t comment on it…
@ John again
Well it’s 5.46pm on Sunday here and I’ve been on here pretty much the whole time since about midday…
ps; yay, I have a nic-name ;D I feel special! Lol
@ Ken:
You’ve got the planet Earth by the ass, my young friend.
I am a white man who adores black women, whether from here or from Africa or anywhere – nuthin’ against white or Asian or Latino ladies, they are all fine (well, maybe not all, but you know what I mean), but only a black girl can make my heart flutter! Or anything else (hahahaha)!
Why do you think I fell in love with Uhura (old or new) in the first place?
Yeah, you’ve got a deep appreciation for what so many of us take for granted (freedom & responsibility);
a pretty, round-bottomed little black girlfriend;
and, YOU’RE A DOCTOR!
Like I say, you’ve got the world by the ass, you’ll do fine.
And no matter what happens to the global economy, you’ll make it, and God knows, you have a lot more to offer the world than most of us. People like you and Steve, just being doctors, are what comprises the best of Humanity, if you ask me.
JOHN
@ Ken:
Whoops, you said you worked in a hospital, I just assumed, sorry!
For what it’s worth, I admire anybody who wants to be a cop, too – they don’t pay enough for me to wanna BE one, though, lol!
Especially when the bullets start flyin’!
@ Katherine:
Nickname? You mean ‘Engenue’? Yeah, I like that too, our little Enjenue. Not bad. And, very appropriate.
JOHN
@katherine
Well, that’s just my opinion, so try not to take my opinion on a piece of entertainment so personally. I am the biggest Terminator fan, but if someone says they thought T1 and T2 sucked, I’m not going to get angry over it, that’s their opinion, oh well, I’ll deal with it, haha.
@Johnny
I spend so much time at the gunrange, it should be the other guy you feel sorry for when the bullets start flying, lol. Hopefully that doesn’t happen though, but constant training gives you confidence at least. But I’d rather just have a nice calm career in the police department helping people, arresting bad guys, without people shooting at me, lol.
@ Ken J
I don’t really take it personally, I guess I just love it so much I can’t imagine how someone could hate it.
But you’re right, it’s your opinion. I’m sorry for seeming like I was going to bite your head off.
@ Ken:
No shit, GI! Well spoken, well said.
And, for what it is worth: I would be all for gun control (just to let you know where my head is at), but for one inescapable, undeniable fact -
If the good, law-abiding folks have no guns, all that means is that the bad guys & criminals do!
Personally, I’d feel a whole lot better having cops who shoot straight, I’ll tell ya that for sure!
Just sayin’, I’m idealistic as hell, but there is such a thing as living in a fantasy world, and, sad as it may be to say, an America with no gun rights would be even MORE dangerous!
Yet another arguement for Star Trek: Stun phasers. Lol!
Don’t you agree?
JOHN
ps; I just realised how dependent I’ve become on this forum. I keep refreshing my inbox to see if there’s any more comments. Wow, that’s sad *shakes head*
I just don’t like all of the anti-”virtues” that it teaches. It’s like against people who earn a living honestly.
@ Katherine & Ken J:
I know just what you mean, Enjenue, I feel just that same way about the Enterprise D! Hahahaha!
Okay, not the same thing, but you captured my chagrin, hon, it really is the way I feel when I see slams against the Galaxy class I grew to know & love, lol!
And Ken, you shoulda heard Dave Letterman joke about ‘Rent’ when it first came out, it would crack you up.
Katherine, you, not so much…lol, good thing we all have a right to our opinions, RIGHT, KEN? Lol, see, I know you can get next to that!
JOHN
Yeah, I guess so… I don’t really see it like that; to me I guess it’s more showing the life of the less fortunate and how terrible the effects (or should it be affects, I have no idea) of HIV/AIDS and substance abuse are. But I guess everyone gets a different message from it (omg I just felt like I was in english talking about invited readings for a seconds there).
@ Katherine:
I know what you mean, like I was sayin’, NINE HOURS, now!
It’s a sickness, I tell ya, a sickness…
BUT I LIKE IT!
Kinda like smoking, except it won’t give ya lung cancer…
JOHN
@Johnny
what did letterman say?
@ John
Best sickness EVER.
~Ingenue
Just curious, but how exactly are they “less fortunate?” I’m working at 4am in the morning to be able to afford the place I live. They don’t work, they do drugs all day, drink booze, and they live for free. Sounds EASIER to me…
NM, don’t answer that, don’t want to start an argument, haha, my mistake Katherine, sorry for asking it like that.
@ Ken J
Yeah but society generally views them as less fortunately because they have no job, crappy living standards, diseases, practically no hope, etc. Don’t worry about the fact that it’s probably their own fault
So yeah when you put it like that, Rent does seem kind of dodgy, but regardless I love the movie.
~Ingenue
Self-correction: I love the musical*
@ Ken:
I can’t remember exactly, it’s like the old saying, “You had to be there”; he just mocked it a lot, singing “RENNNT, what’re we gonna do about the RENNNNT…”
Like that. I believe it’s safe to say, he had a take on the musical much closer to yours than, say, Enjenue’s, lol (sorry, Kath!).
Not havingseen it m’self, I cannot really judge, but from what I gather, it sounds a bit heavy on the social engineering/AIDS walk/preachy side, I guess.
Preachiness is all a matter of artfulness anyway, isn’t it?
Isn’t that what made Roddenberry’s ‘morality tales’ on ST so great? Or Rod Serling’s ‘Zone’?
Hell, even ‘The X-Files’ did a good job in that department, I think.
JOHN
@ John
There’s no need to apologise, lol.
I guess I can see how it could be those things, but I personally don’t find it any of them. I find it touching, entertaining and tear-worthy, with great music. I’m listening to the sound track right now!
~Ingenue
I was DRAGGED into seeing that. Man, I wanted to throw things at the screen.
Sorry Kath, I think my experiences in life has left me very cynical of people…
@ Ken & Enjenue:
Okay, I’m an old man, I’m tired & I’m goin’t to bed, now, sorry. I’ve leave you two kids to slug it out with each other, hahaha…but I leave you both with this, from Rudyard Kipling’s ‘If…’:
“If you can keep your head, when all about you are losing theirs, and blaming YOU for it,
“If you can walk with kings and still be humble,
“If you can risk it all, on one game of Pitch & Toss, and still start over, without complaint,
“Then you will be a MAN, my son.”
Isn’t that the lesson of George Samuel Kirk?
Isn’t that what James Tiberius Kirk was all about?
This is what Star Trek meant to me, a civilization which, as Picard said to Q, turned its greatest weakness into its greatest strength.
We WILL get there, and I don’t mean warp drive – that’s easy!
Fare the well, kids, see you on the Morrow.
‘Night,
JOHN
@ Ken
Well I can’t hold that against you, so I think we should just agree to disagree.
@ John
I agree, that is totally what he was about and what Star Trek is about. Makes me hopeful for the future
Nighty night, sleep tight, don’t let the bed bugs bite!
~Ingenue