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By: John "Kahless" Taylor

John "Kahless" Taylor — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:20:16 +0000

This Scotty is a younger version, so maybe he becomes the Scotty we all know and love from TOS in subsequent sequels.

By: SpaceCowboy1701

SpaceCowboy1701 — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:59:57 +0000

Yes, at least we have a few hundred hours of old programming to fall back on, even if the new movies go astray …

By: 790

790 — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:57:07 +0000

@SpaceCowboy1701,
Scotty never messed up transporter coordinates? What’s with making him the comic jester of the crew? (Oh yeah its Simon Pegg?)
If anything the Original Scotty was usually pretty uptight and took his job home with him.
^
The ground based ship construction only acted as a plot device to get young Kirk in the same shot as the Enterprise,,,
The shot of him driving up on the motorcycle and looking up in awe of the big ship was a scene right out of Top Gun… (At least it struck me that way)

I’m not divided, I consider this version of Trek as a knock off. The first 25 minutes were great the rest was just a teenage fueled altered prequel that I just didn’t care about afterwards,,,
I know other people loved the film that’s cool.
^
I have all of the Star Trek tv series and films on dvd, that’s what I will watch when need a Star Trek fix…

By: SpaceCowboy1701

SpaceCowboy1701 — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:35:00 +0000

Yeah, 790, I actually liked the overall idea of them “missing” with a transporter beam, but that whole sequence just felt over the top and gratuitous at that place in the script. Really, the later instance where Scotty thinks he’s beaming them into Engineering on the Narada and puts them somewhere else was funny without trying, and had the bonus of actually being integral to the plot. More integral humor in the next movie would be good.

The ground-based starship yard … beautiful visual that serves the story well, but that definitely goes against the grain after 30 years of spacedock construction scenes … and a nice new space station in this movie as well. I saw where they addressed that and essentially assumed that Starfleet’s technology would make it just as practical to build on the ground and boost into space. Still trying to decide if I can buy that or not.

You can tell I’ve got mixed feelings about this new movie franchise … I really wanted to like it, I enjoyed seeing “Kirk and Spock” back in action after all these years, but …

By: 790

790 — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:56:08 +0000

Lol SpaceCowboy1701, I totally agree with your comment.

I knew it would look different but stupid and lame don’t even begin to cover how I felt when I saw the bowels of the Enterprise for the first time, and yes that scene with Scotty beaming into the tube was completely pointless and struck me a something a child would write in for giggles.

I also didn’t like that the E, was built on the ground and used as a recruiting office.
Typical with the writing style of Orci & Kurtzman. They always miss the mark in all the right places.

I’ve only seen Star Trek one time and its looking like that won’t change when the dvd comes out.

Entertaining yet lame all wrapped in one film.

By: SpaceCowboy1701

SpaceCowboy1701 — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:20:52 +0000

@790
To me, the Engineering set (or lack thereof) is one of the things that really struck me as out of place in a movie where the production values were largely quite high, regardless of whether you’re evaluating the movie as part of existing Trek canon or strictly on its own merits as a reimagined show, where the whole look is consciously updated. If you compare it to the art above, it doesn’t really match stylistically or on a technological level. They tried, but I get the impression that they just budgeted a certain amount for new sets and were counting on that brewery to deliver. I wish they’d spent the money they used on the rediculous water tube sequence on something that looks like a 23rd century warp reactor, even if it’s not like the standard-setting core from the first Trek movie … after all, the TOS engine room was nothing like that, either.

I kind of wondered how much it bothered the general audience … I spent too many hours looking at Trek technical manuals to be objective …

By: INK

INK — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:27:27 +0000

As long as the sequels are as good as this last one, I don’t care who they put it in it:

Star Trek 2 – The Wrath of SpongeBob!

By: 790

790 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:35:28 +0000

@SpaceCowboy1701
The Enterprise engineering section just sucked.

That was one of many things that I didn’t like about the new overall direction in Star Trek.

By: SpaceCowboy1701

SpaceCowboy1701 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:20:46 +0000

Just hoping they can get away from this tendency to try to lift elements from “Wrath of Kahn” … and that they redesign Engineering to something that looks 23rd Century.

I’ve always liked the Gorn and the Tholians as distinctive Star Trek aliens that did not get much play in follow-on episodes or even spin-offs. Now that we’ve got good enough SFX tech to represent these guys, I would love to see a fresh take on these classic encounters — they would get us back to the Enterprise’s exploration mission while keeping an interesting antagonist in place. Using these guys would also allow them to have both a recognizable element from the original continuity and a largely blank slate.

By: KEL

KEL — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:55:11 +0000

And I’d love to see the Mirror Universe! Goatee Spock FTW!

Maybe some tribbles too…

But I like the new continuity.

By: KEL

KEL — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:53:55 +0000

Bring it on. I can’t wait.

Guys, I didn’t mind the “lens flares”, personally….

By: 790

790 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:30:08 +0000

@JA
That sounds like a great idea to me !!!
Really cool!!!

If they did something like that I would be blown away…

By: JA

JA — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:23:58 +0000

Someone mentioned earlier the concept of the mirror universe. Wouldn’t it be wild if this were a trilogy that eventually gets us back to the original timeline when it turns out that this event is what created the universe from Mirror Mirror. Without the logic of the Vulcans and with a paranoia developed from the Nero attacks Starfleet moves the Federation to the Empire. Movie two would end with the empire firmly established. Movie three has the mirror mirror events that get us back to the original timeline…somehow there is still a minor tweak tha allows some plot freedom the original timeline. I think it would be interesting to find out in the third movie that we’ve been pulling for the wrong guys all along. I know this is insane…but Lost is much stranger.

By: 790

790 — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:35:07 +0000

Kahless, that would become kinda laughable if everytime they ran across an old enemy Spock signals to Kirk, “echmm don’t go there.”

I could maybe see them find the Botany Bay and instead of transporting over they encounter another alien race that intervenes in some way but even that’s kinda a cop out on doing something new…

There’s a ton of ideas that they could touch upon that are written in the novels. If they absolutely can’t pull anything together.

By: Hippie

Hippie — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:54:00 +0000

I agree with others. The next one has GOTTA be Klingons! They’re the primary bad guys of orginal Trek!

And I for one, wouldn’t kind seeing one of the TOS baddies show up.

I would LOVE to see a movie where the main baddie is Kor (Errand of Mercy) or Kang (Day if the Dove) or even Koloth (Tribbles)!

Of the three, Kang would probably play the best on the big screen.

If not the main baddie, I’d like to see tham at least make and appearance.

By: John "Kahless" Taylor

John "Kahless" Taylor — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:49:41 +0000

I think I may have a solution for all: Let’s say in the next movie, the Enterprise is dispatched to handle an incident involving Klingons (with smooth foreheads of course, because of Augments). On the way there, Kirk and crew come in contact with the Botany Bay. Young Spock remembers a conversation he had with Spock prime about a ship of very diabolical Augments. Spock prime suggested to young Spock that it would be only logical to destroy that ship because in his timeline, these Augments die trying to destroy the Enterprise. Young Spock informs Kirk and McCoy (with some banter between Spock and Bones), and they decide to destroy the ship. Afterwards, they continue on their way to their mission. Of course, we don’t get to see nor hear Kahn but I would be satisfied because of continuity.

By: JessSayin

JessSayin — Sun, 31 May 2009 22:32:33 +0000

And MORE artwork, Rob! Amazing!!

By: JessSayin

JessSayin — Sun, 31 May 2009 22:31:47 +0000

WOW, that artwork is killer!

I’m with Bill…Klingons, (or ‘Cling-on’s’ depending on your situation) would be a great place to start.

Also, Fury2701′s idea of the Doomsday Machine is great too.
I loved that episode!

…with fewer lens flares natch..

By: JustDavid

JustDavid — Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:28 +0000

790 & OldDarth are right. Star trek needs to move a whole new territory (or quadrant) for the next (hopefully) several films.

However, if someone needs to see something familiar in the next films, may I suggest an expanded role for some of the TOS and animated series’ reoccurring alien races. Let us skip the ones that have had air time in the most recent TV series though.

My vote is for the Romulins to be the new antagonist for the Federation. I have always felt they never reached their full potential in TOS.

Thanks for the great art work, Rob. Love it and keep it coming, please.