Star Trek Sequel Talk & Some Awesome Concept Art

This Scotty is a younger version, so maybe he becomes the Scotty we all know and love from TOS in subsequent sequels.

Yes, at least we have a few hundred hours of old programming to fall back on, even if the new movies go astray ...

@SpaceCowboy1701,
Scotty never messed up transporter coordinates? What's with making him the comic jester of the crew? (Oh yeah its Simon Pegg?)
If anything the Original Scotty was usually pretty uptight and took his job home with him.
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The ground based ship construction only acted as a plot device to get young Kirk in the same shot as the Enterprise,,,
The shot of him driving up on the motorcycle and looking up in awe of the big ship was a scene right out of Top Gun... (At least it struck me that way)

I'm not divided, I consider this version of Trek as a knock off. The first 25 minutes were great the rest was just a teenage fueled altered prequel that I just didn't care about afterwards,,,
I know other people loved the film that's cool.
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I have all of the Star Trek tv series and films on dvd, that's what I will watch when need a Star Trek fix... :-)

Yeah, 790, I actually liked the overall idea of them "missing" with a transporter beam, but that whole sequence just felt over the top and gratuitous at that place in the script. Really, the later instance where Scotty thinks he's beaming them into Engineering on the Narada and puts them somewhere else was funny without trying, and had the bonus of actually being integral to the plot. More integral humor in the next movie would be good.

The ground-based starship yard ... beautiful visual that serves the story well, but that definitely goes against the grain after 30 years of spacedock construction scenes ... and a nice new space station in this movie as well. I saw where they addressed that and essentially assumed that Starfleet's technology would make it just as practical to build on the ground and boost into space. Still trying to decide if I can buy that or not.

You can tell I've got mixed feelings about this new movie franchise ... I really wanted to like it, I enjoyed seeing "Kirk and Spock" back in action after all these years, but ...

Lol SpaceCowboy1701, I totally agree with your comment.

I knew it would look different but stupid and lame don't even begin to cover how I felt when I saw the bowels of the Enterprise for the first time, and yes that scene with Scotty beaming into the tube was completely pointless and struck me a something a child would write in for giggles.

I also didn't like that the E, was built on the ground and used as a recruiting office.
Typical with the writing style of Orci & Kurtzman. They always miss the mark in all the right places.

I've only seen Star Trek one time and its looking like that won't change when the dvd comes out.

Entertaining yet lame all wrapped in one film.

@790
To me, the Engineering set (or lack thereof) is one of the things that really struck me as out of place in a movie where the production values were largely quite high, regardless of whether you're evaluating the movie as part of existing Trek canon or strictly on its own merits as a reimagined show, where the whole look is consciously updated. If you compare it to the art above, it doesn't really match stylistically or on a technological level. They tried, but I get the impression that they just budgeted a certain amount for new sets and were counting on that brewery to deliver. I wish they'd spent the money they used on the rediculous water tube sequence on something that looks like a 23rd century warp reactor, even if it's not like the standard-setting core from the first Trek movie ... after all, the TOS engine room was nothing like that, either.

I kind of wondered how much it bothered the general audience ... I spent too many hours looking at Trek technical manuals to be objective ...

As long as the sequels are as good as this last one, I don't care who they put it in it:

Star Trek 2 - The Wrath of SpongeBob!

@SpaceCowboy1701
The Enterprise engineering section just sucked.

That was one of many things that I didn't like about the new overall direction in Star Trek.

Just hoping they can get away from this tendency to try to lift elements from "Wrath of Kahn" ... and that they redesign Engineering to something that looks 23rd Century.

I've always liked the Gorn and the Tholians as distinctive Star Trek aliens that did not get much play in follow-on episodes or even spin-offs. Now that we've got good enough SFX tech to represent these guys, I would love to see a fresh take on these classic encounters -- they would get us back to the Enterprise's exploration mission while keeping an interesting antagonist in place. Using these guys would also allow them to have both a recognizable element from the original continuity and a largely blank slate.

And I'd love to see the Mirror Universe! Goatee Spock FTW! :-P

Maybe some tribbles too...

But I like the new continuity. :)

Bring it on. I can't wait.

Guys, I didn't mind the "lens flares", personally....

@JA
That sounds like a great idea to me !!!
Really cool!!!

If they did something like that I would be blown away... :-)

Someone mentioned earlier the concept of the mirror universe. Wouldn't it be wild if this were a trilogy that eventually gets us back to the original timeline when it turns out that this event is what created the universe from Mirror Mirror. Without the logic of the Vulcans and with a paranoia developed from the Nero attacks Starfleet moves the Federation to the Empire. Movie two would end with the empire firmly established. Movie three has the mirror mirror events that get us back to the original timeline...somehow there is still a minor tweak tha allows some plot freedom the original timeline. I think it would be interesting to find out in the third movie that we've been pulling for the wrong guys all along. I know this is insane...but Lost is much stranger.

Kahless, that would become kinda laughable if everytime they ran across an old enemy Spock signals to Kirk, "echmm don't go there."

I could maybe see them find the Botany Bay and instead of transporting over they encounter another alien race that intervenes in some way but even that's kinda a cop out on doing something new...

There's a ton of ideas that they could touch upon that are written in the novels. If they absolutely can't pull anything together.

I agree with others. The next one has GOTTA be Klingons! They're the primary bad guys of orginal Trek!

And I for one, wouldn't kind seeing one of the TOS baddies show up.

I would LOVE to see a movie where the main baddie is Kor (Errand of Mercy) or Kang (Day if the Dove) or even Koloth (Tribbles)!

Of the three, Kang would probably play the best on the big screen.

If not the main baddie, I'd like to see tham at least make and appearance.

I think I may have a solution for all: Let's say in the next movie, the Enterprise is dispatched to handle an incident involving Klingons (with smooth foreheads of course, because of Augments). On the way there, Kirk and crew come in contact with the Botany Bay. Young Spock remembers a conversation he had with Spock prime about a ship of very diabolical Augments. Spock prime suggested to young Spock that it would be only logical to destroy that ship because in his timeline, these Augments die trying to destroy the Enterprise. Young Spock informs Kirk and McCoy (with some banter between Spock and Bones), and they decide to destroy the ship. Afterwards, they continue on their way to their mission. Of course, we don't get to see nor hear Kahn but I would be satisfied because of continuity.

And MORE artwork, Rob! Amazing!!

WOW, that artwork is killer!

I'm with Bill...Klingons, (or 'Cling-on's' depending on your situation) would be a great place to start.

Also, Fury2701's idea of the Doomsday Machine is great too.
I loved that episode!

...with fewer lens flares natch..

790 & OldDarth are right. Star trek needs to move a whole new territory (or quadrant) for the next (hopefully) several films.

However, if someone needs to see something familiar in the next films, may I suggest an expanded role for some of the TOS and animated series' reoccurring alien races. Let us skip the ones that have had air time in the most recent TV series though.

My vote is for the Romulins to be the new antagonist for the Federation. I have always felt they never reached their full potential in TOS. :)

Thanks for the great art work, Rob. Love it and keep it coming, please.

@OldDarth, is very wise,,,

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No reimaginings of previous original Trek episodes.

Something new and original, please!

@Job sounds like Jobe 8), Just fyi the Remastered Star Trek Original Series on Dvd or Bluray is really amazing! It looks nothing like the 60's Batman color filtration of the past. These effects are Next Gen quality...

My Point, if you want to see upgraded 2009 CGI Vfx.for the Star Trek Original Series its already here now...

Let's move forward where no man has gone before,,, or women. :-)

@790 Im going to have to agree with you, if I wanted to see old stories I would wach the old show. I am new to star trek, and I have seen the new movie and many of the old shows, they are still very good and should be left alone.
It is kinda like waching the old batman series after waching the movies "including the older movies" I much rather wach somthing old that i have never seen rather than somthing old that i have seen -_-.

Use old ideas to bring in the new fans ??? That's the best we can do???
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@Happy Skeptic, I'm not a big fan of re-boots. The concept alone is a cinematic cop out. Re boots are fast becoming a new genre. Is this what we want???

What happened to coming up with something new??? Its almost a bad word in Hollywood these days.
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Anyone remember how cool it was when Star Trek gave us the Borg for the first time. It pumped NEW life into The Next Generation and actually brought in NEW FANS and high ratings,,, it was a totally new take on aliens.

Get some fresh ideas in the new Star Trek films and the NEW FANS won't give a crap about Kahn, or Klingons. Only the old fans care about them,,,
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The overall problem that I have with Star Trek is that its a big rerun at this point. Were not going forward anymore... Re boots are not what we should be looking forward/backwards too,,,
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@790
My good sir, the whole point of this reboot was to bring new blood into a sadly dwindling fan base. I myself am from one of the last generations to actually enjoy the optimism and wanderlust that Star Trek embodies. That said, your argument that it needs to stand on its own merits is sound. But I would like put forth this argument: If this Star Trek can't use any of the old ideas that made the original great, than how can you pique the curiosities of the new fans into seeing the original source material? Granted, for the next film and maybe the one after that it should be original. But at some point they NEED to bring in some of the original stories and show another way things could've been resolved. After all, with an alternate reality the rules change. In this new playground of imagination so much more can be seen and experienced.

You sound so sad and defeated . . .

Fury2701, I don't have much faith in Abrams producing something original anyway. I'm sure he's going down that road no matter what I want...
I'm pretty much done with Star Trek professionally. :-)
I don't care anymore... Do whatever. ,,,

It doesn't have to be Khan or The Doomsday Machine.

But I believe a combination of the old and the new would work best, that's all.

And I meant to write that totally original and creative should not have been called Star Trek. Since it is a reboot there should be some sort of retread or rehash of existing material.

Wow, the concept art was really impressive. Thanks for showing these, Rob.

@Fury2701,,,
Like I mentioned before you can see all the old Series re booted with new effects already...
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I don't think I'm missing the point here, the real potential lies in Star Trek doing something new. (Sounds crazy huh?). Sure use familiar aliens, but I will not pay to see a remake of any of the other films...
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"Fury2701, you said"
("If you wanted the movie to be totally original and "creative" then it should have been called Star Trek")
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So your saying that we can't expect to see the new Kirk and Spock seek out new life and boldly go someplace else...?

Its gotta be Kahn?