Star Trek Review
May 6, 2009 by Vic HoltremanWill you like the new Star Trek movie even if you’re not a geek?
Short version: While hard core Trekkies may have some problems with it, this long time classic Star Trek fan found this reboot fun, fresh & exciting.
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Where to start? (This is going to be a long one, folks. If you want to skip the preamble and get right to the review itself click here.)
Some people are Star Wars fanatics, others go nuts over Transformers or X-Men. While I’m a huge Iron Man fan, Star Trek is my true love going back well over 30 years. My favorite of all the shows? The Original Series (aka TOS). You may look at it now and think it looks cheesy (however I highly recommend you check out the digitally remastered version with brand new visual effects on DVD or Blu-ray), but remember the original Star Trek is over 40 years old.
At the time the other big Sci-Fi TV show was the cheese-fest called Lost in Space – so keep that in mind as a comparison. 
I have Star Trek prop replicas on my bookshelves (some pretty damned nice ones) along with a copy of the original Star Fleet Technical Manual by Franz Joseph and a set of blueprints of the original U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 (which shows the location of a bowling alley on the ship!). I’ve memorized every episode of the original series – I can tell you which one each one is within seconds of any of them starting. And I’ve seen every movie.
Yes, I’m into Trek “canon” – tracking all the little details that tie the whole Star Trek universe together, however I’m also aware (though some fans seem to be in denial about this) that over the course of hundreds of episodes across five different series, Star Trek itself has violated its own canon many times.
Why am I telling you all this? So you have some context for my review of J.J. Abrams’, Roberto Orci’s and Alex Kurtzman’s reboot of the Star Trek universe. However this is not a review just for “Trekkies,” and that’s appropriate because neither is this film just for that group of die hard fans (among which I include myself).
Also, I did read the four part prequel comic that tells the story which leads to the events that take place in the film. If you have a chance I recommend you find it and pick it up at your local comic book store as it really fleshes out the “villain” in the film, Nero.
Some fans may disagree, but this franchise was in desperate need of a reboot, re-imagination, fresh “take” or whatever you’d like to call it. Star Trek, as a brand, was whithering on the vine and was in danger of being put on the shelf for who knows how long – until Paramount might decide enough time had gone by to give it another go. This was due to a number of factors, among which included the subsequent series being taken in directions by Rick Berman (and to some exent, Brannon Braga) that the fans did not agree with. Essentially it was a case of “the fans don’t know what’s good for them – we’ll tell them what they want.”
From this we gained the ignoble death of Captain Kirk in a transition movie with a stupidly weak plot device, Star Trek: Voyager, the Lost in Space of Trek, progressively crappier movies and finally Enterprise: At least an attempt at something fresh in Trek, which unfortunately went off in some half-assed direction – and Manny Coto’s efforts to bring the show back to what it should have been in season 4 were too little, too late.
So… when it was announced that the new film would go back to before the original series crew had met I was both excited at the prospect and terrified of how it might turn out. I mean we’re talking about recasting iconic roles. Bill Shatner? Leonard Nimoy? DeForest Kelly and James Doohan?
Sacrilege!
But I tried to be cautiously optimistic over the course of very early news, pre-production and through the production. I listed this film as my most anticipated of the year…
And I was NOT disappointed.
So finally – the review…
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Correct! Now pick a TNG quote or something so I can’t possibly get it!
@ All:
Hmmm, okay, whatever Doc wants, Doc gets.
I picked one from the TNG series, first season. it even has a title that tips the hat to TOS.
“Captain’s Logg, [stardate]: Where ARE we?”
~Johnny
“Hmmm, okay, whatever Doc wants, Doc gets.”
LL – if only. Incidentally, I don’t believe there are two “g”s in “log.”
Ingénue – you still with us?
~Doc
@ Steve:
Well, that’s the Scottish spelling of log, like the name Pegg, get it? Haahahahahahaha!
Okay, you caught me! I thought I proofread that, hoping no one would notice; guess you guys are just too sharp for me.
Btw, ‘LL’? Don’t you mean ‘LOL’? You should talk, hahahahaha! Typos are a bee-yotch, ain’t they? Remember what it used to be like back in the day, with typewriters & White-Out? Correction ribbons?
Anyways, that’s my quote. Tough enough for ya, Doc?
And I agree, where IS Ingenue? I should leave a ST/DS-9 quote just for her, come to think of it:
“Well, we could always paint it…”
That’s for anybody who watched DS-9, but Kath liked it the most.
~Johnny
What are these things of which you speak: “typewriters” and “white-out” and “correction ribbons?” I can only find references to them in the Library Computer under “ancient history.”
So now there are two quotes to which I have absolutely no guesses. I like this game!
~Doc
@ Doc:
Hahahaha! Look under ‘Stone knives and bearskins’, lol!
That keyboard you are accessing right now was originally intended to slow the typist’s hands down, so as to not tangle the rods of the original ‘tower’ type typewriters – and they just never updated it, although there have been attempts to do so, but this has never caught on, despite some very innovative ideas – all the vowels on the middle row, the split keyboard, the ‘bent’ keyboard, with all the number keys & the spacebar in a triangle in the middle (my favorite), but the ‘qwerty’ type keyboard is still the favorite, I suppose because people just hate change.
Sometimes I wonder how much we have to ‘un-learn’ to adapt to new things – look at texting, people type with their thumbs. I could never type with my thumbs!
~Johnny
Well check Hell for snowballs . . .
I just got an Iphone today.
What is the world coming to?
@ All:
Okay, obviously that first one was too obtuse, here’s another hint:
“Do you have any facts to support this?”
Same character, to the person responsible – even though it was his assistant who was really responsible, and only Wesley understood that…
And as for the second one, that DS-9 episode also involved 100 gross of ‘self-sealing stem bolts’, which the station would be stuck with for quite a while…
Here they both are again:
“Captain’s Log, [stardate]. Where ARE we?” – TNG, first season, and
“Well, we could always paint it…” – DS-9, late in the series’ run.
Did I go too far? Hahahaha!
~Johnny
“Captain’s Log, [stardate]. Where ARE we?” – TNG
I guess that was Picard in “Where No One Has Gone Before”
“Well, we could always paint it…” – DS-9
Maybe Nog to Jake about Sisko’s baseball?
Let me run a little “Koboyashi Maru” scenario by you.
Suppose you are a lifelong Star Trek fan with a particular affinity for the original series. You see the movie the day it comes out, even knowing that it will be less than perfect. Parts of it are goofy and implausible, but other elements are downright brilliant and they almost make up for the bad stuff, in other words; typical Star Trek.
A few days later you wake up in the morning with a sudden realization; “OMG! PONN FARR! The Vulcans must return to their homeworld to spawn and now they havn’t got one! Earth didn’t get 10,000 scientists and scholars, it just got 10,000 walking time bombs with seven-year fuses!” Pieces start to fall together, characters come to life in your head, and a script begins to write itself and you CAN’T TURN IT OFF. You can see a story that flows naturally out of the events of the movie, is canonicly bulletproof, and is packed with potential for drama, action, humor, sex, moral conflicts and social commentary, in other words; EXCEPTIONAL Star Trek. A premise that, if handled properly, could even dethrone the mighty Khan for the title of “Best Trek Film Ever.”
But you find yourself in the Kobayashi scenario, you have no agent or Writers Guild membership, and even if you did, your chances of penetrating the insular and incestuous world of the Hollywood elite is pretty much nil.
Is it a no-win scenario or is there an outside-the-box solution? Do you just keep to yourself an idea that clearly needs to see the light of day?
I decided to post it on this forum for peer review “run it up the flagpole and see who salutes”, so to speak. Some of you have asked; “What is there to stop them from stealing your idea?” To borrow a quote from “A Taste of Armageddon” (one of my all time faves;)
“Stop it?..I’m COUNTING on it!”
There is a saying; “The internet is forever” If my treatment makes it to the screen without credit or compensation, Paramount will receive a letter from my lawyer pointing to a certain forum on a certain website that points to a certain E-mail address, namely mine. More than enough evidence to implicate them for intellectual property theft, leading to a nice, fat, out of court settlement to buy my silence.
There are however, other ways to silence me, and the Hollywood crowd aren’t exactly paragons of moral virtue. I wouldn’t put anything past them, especially with a property worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
That is where you come in. If the screenplay is co-written by half a dozen guys, most of whom have their identities “cloaked” by the anonymity of the web, then bumping me off becomes a much dicier proposition.
What I offer you is a chance to share in the rewards of my….”enterprise” in exchange for assuming a portion of the risk, which would be diminished exponentially by your participation. We all know the characters, we all know the universe, and we all know what a good Star Trek episode is all about. Together we could craft a script that they simply could not refuse.
Having it out on the web for all too see is not an insurmountable problem. Hollywood is very familiar with Ridgeway’s world of disinformation and subtrefuge. Creating one or more equally plausable “Decoy” stories and giving them a greater exposure than the real one will throw 99% of the public off track, a much greater percentage than the portion of the population that knows what a brewery looks like.
There are what..six of us left here? If we divide the pie between us we should all never have to go hungry again.
Is anyone in? To quote Gamesters of Triskellion “I THINK you’ll find it a MUCH more INteresting game than the one you’ve BEEN playing.”
To quote Admiral Ridgeway of Fleet Intel “Slice, anyone?”
@BE
As much as I like your idea, these guys have lawyers that would probably put Johnny Cochrane’s firm to shame. Also, as we all know, Tuvok overcame pon farr and he was almost 70,000 lightyears from Vulcan, and so was the Vulcan ensign. Of course, that happens over 80 years from this timeline but it does show they really don’t need to go back to Vulcan. Your story could still work, with Vulcans going crazy and then McCoy finding a similar cure to what the holographic doctor found; but McCoy wouldn’t have a holodeck to work with, he would have to use other means.
Not as up on “Voyager” as I am on TOS. Janeway always struck me as the anti-Kirk, always screwing her crew out of a ride home to uphold the Federation’s ideals.
Finding and synthesizing a cure is one venue they would explore, as well as finding a world with that certain “something” that Vulcans need, but if those things were easy, the Vulcans would have done it themselves by now.
Paramount has their lawyers, I have weblog forum entries with a time stamp. I am busy working on the next scene, but it needs polish and fact checking, that’s where you guys come in.
Thanks for the info on Voyager Kahless, I didn’t know that the “no homeworld” plot device had been done before. I still say that it holds up. I haven’t answered every objection and pecadillo, but it it is not due to a lack of answers, but rather a lack of time. All questions will be answered in due time, but I’ve got a story to write. Even if it goes nowhere, it is tale that must be told.
-Till next, BE
@ Kahless:
““Captain’s Log, [stardate]. Where ARE we?” – TNG
I guess that was Picard in “Where No One Has Gone Before”
BINGO! Very good, John, the back-up hint was to Kosinski, who was supposeed to be the Federation’s fair-haired boy but it was really The Traveler, who was seeking out young geniuses like Wesley Crusher. SO glad someone finally got that one.
And, you’re up for tha next quote.
[“Well, we could always paint it…” - DS-9]
“Maybe Nog to Jake about Sisko’s baseball?”
You’re in the right family, I guess, Kahless – actually, I just dropped that in there to flush out our young friend Katherine, our Ingenue, haven’t heard from her lately.
It was Chief O’Brien to Kira, in command of the Station in Sisko’s abscence, explaining that the different, smaller desk that they (Jake & Nogg) had got from the starship captain they had traded with over the ton of Yamok Sauce, the 100 gross of self-sealing stem bolts, and the alien dirt that was considered sacred by the Bajorans, was all part of “Faith, Luck, and the Great River” – a sort of Ferengi philosophy, as well as the name of that episode – I think the first one was titled ‘Progress’, where Nogg proved he had the chops for Ferengi commerce by getting a great barter on 100 gross of self-sealing stem bolts, of which no one to this day can determine what the damn things do or what they are for. It was all based on a M*A*S*H episode where Radar O’Reilly did the same thing with Henry Blake’s desk, on a “three phone call finagle”.
Like Blake, Sisko got his desk back. His baseball was never even displaced. Ingenue, y’out there, little one?
@ Brighteyes:
You know, you should contact Sylvester Stallone, good ol’ Sly. I read decades ago about his story:
Stallone came to Hollywood as a nobody. He had a script (‘Rocky’), a burning desire to see it onscreen, and the firm conviction that he, and only he, could play Rocky Balboa.
He was not quite penniless, but he had “one beautiful wife” (whom he has since divorced), a couple of kids, and a dream, and he managed to get his foot in the door in Hollywood. he actually became a pretty good actor, if you ask me.
Anyway, give it a shot, what the hell, it’s worth a shot, right?
I must agree with Kahless that there seem to be get-arounds for Vulcans “returning to their homeworld like salmon swimming upstream” as McCoy put it in ‘Amok Time’, but don’t let that limit you, there could be, say, a virus or something involved, possibly of Romulan origin.
After all, who knows what Nero was doing after he got released from Rure Penthe, right? He probably went to the Romulans himself; my point is, there are all kinds of different plot variations possible.
Good luck, I’m in if you want me. It’s hard to chop back a burning inspiration and if you ask me, you shouldn’t have to!
~Johnny
As a physician, I of all people know of the danger of reopening old wounds. It’s true, and let me tell you, in college (prior to Medical School) I wanted nothing more than to write a Star Trek novel and get it published from Pocket Books. They do not accept unsolicited scripts, and Paramount owns all legal rights to everything Star Trek. They own merchandising rights, licensing rights, copyrights, _____rights. To win a case against them, or even entertain a settlement, you would need to prove that they stole your original work, which cannot contain anything Star Trek related. Period. Now, I’m an optimist, not a pessimist, so I’m not necessarily saying this is an insurmountable obstacle. As an English graduate, I know a hell of a lot about editing. But the worst way to do this is on a public forum where anyone can see your script. Anyone who wants to entertain this idea is going to have to somehow get in contact with one another via email. From there, a script needs to be drafted, edited, re-written, revised, and then written all over again. Since writing has already begun on the sequel by the same crew who brought us the last movie, it is unrealistic to expect to change the outcome of the next movie. Instead, you write a kick-ass plot, you join the screenwriter’s guild, and probably get an agent. Then, with all of that under your belt, Paramount will likely be more than happy to read and consider the script. And then comes the hardest part, and it must be remembered – if Paramount bought your story, they own it. They hire a director and an executive producer. They change your story, they edit your story, and you’re powerless to do anything about it. You may be advised or hired in a consulting role, but stories are often not told in the manner originally penned. Nicholas Meyer literally cried – wept actually – when they put in the scene with Spock’s tube on Genesis at the end of Star Trek II, because it completely changed his story. He was the director but Paramount wanted the option of a sequel. So, having said all of that, I’m used to betting on long shots; it’s what medicine is all about. If someone wants to coordinate getting something set up, I’m happy to partake as my schedule allows. Since said schedule has me seeing patients in under 8 hours, I need to get some sleep.
You are forewarned: I am a doctor and a wicked editor.
~Doc
@Johnny
No, 4th July isn’t a holiday here; I was in Sydney for the past 10 days for a school music tour for the International Music Festival!
~Ingenue
@ Johnny and Steve
Don’t worry, I’m here! Lol. And Johnny, sorry to dissapoint but I don’t remember DS9 well enough to remember that quote – I haven’t watched and DS9 in years.
~Ingenue
@ Ingenue:
Good to have you back with us, hnn; how was Sydney? Did you spend any time in that wonderful Opera house? I love that building!
~Johnny
PS: I almost forgot – FROA # “157. You are surrounded by opportunities; you just have to know where to look.”
PPS: Hey, Vic, why did I just now have to re-register?
@ Johnny
It’s nice to be back, but I have to go back to school in two days!
As a matter of fact, I performed in the Opera House! It was amazing.
My FROA:
#208. Give someone a fish, you feed him for one day. Teach him how to fish, and you lose a steady customer.
~Ingenue
You have a point there, Steve. I have never been a fan of fan fiction, it is usually unimaginative and derivative wish fulfillment fantasy, and you are generally “playing with somebody else’s toys.”
I know that the script for the next movie is already in the works, and that if it involves Ponn Farr it will not be because they stole my idea, but because I correctly guessed where they were going with the story arc (I seem to have a gift for that)
I still know that my treatment is full of win and unlike ST2, has a very upbeat ending with no impediments to a sequel of any kind.
Those of you that think that just because I created one hawkish character, that it will be about the Federation’s “dark side” fail to understand where I intend to go with this. By the time you read the next scene I think you will though.
I would have thought that by the time of Next Gen that the Holodecks would have a “Vulcan Wedding” subroutine complete with synthesized atmosphere and elements, the fact that it presented a problem for the Voyager crew indicates how little was still known about Vulcan physiology.
As with the cloaking device, the plot is not based on the entire length and breadth of the Star Trek franchise, but rather what was known at that particular time period in Trek history. I’ll have to be sure to watch that Voyager ep though, just to make sure nothing gets by me. Title?
I envisioned this as being not the next Movie, but the one after that. At this point few, if any, Vulcans have been away from home long enough for any symptoms to kick in.
I may run the story past a few agents and try to get recommended to the Guild, but whatever my approach, the first step is to, as Steve put it “write a kick-ass plot”
It will still be a couple of days before you read the next scene, after that, I may take it underground, as per your rec. You will still be invited to join me in a private room to help me work it out, in exchange for credit as co-writers.
The next scene includes a visual element, and I have some drawing to do.
–Later, all; BE
@BE
The episode was Body and Soul. I had to…(hangs head low)…look that up on IMDB. Woe is me.
“Spock! Help me Spock!” TOS episode
That would be one of your quotes Kahless, from “The Savage Curtain.” You rally do have a talent for voice-over work.
Thanks for the quick reply
—BE
And Bright Eyes has won the prize for today….A fabulous trip to the realm of Nageleb. If he asks for experimentation, I would say NO if I were you.
Writing is something I thought I had a talent for, until I tried writing a book. It’s not as easy as people think it is. I still have the basic premise but I need to start work on an outline. BE, do you have a degree in journalism or the like? Maybe I could give you the outline and we could collaborate? It could also be a great Trek movie, dealing with destruction of the universe and all.
@ Kahless:
“…destruction of the universe and all.”
DESTRUCTION OF THE UNIVERSE???
Jeez, Cmdr Riker was right in ‘Insurrection’, wasn’t he – You Klingons really don’t do anything small, do you?
Hahahahaha, I hope the Universe makes it, in your story! I might have plans for the weekend, lol!
@ BE:
Good luck, m’man, I really hope you make some inroads into the whole Paramount monolith structure. And you too, Kahless!
@ Kahless & BE, both:
I wouldn’t mind writing a story myself, set in the next generation after – say, about the early 25th Century or so, centered around a new ship design I stumbled across – non-canon, of course – called the ‘Cosmos’ class. Cosmos and her sisters (one of which is called the ‘Titan’, the same name of Captain Riker’s new command at the end of ‘Nemesis’) are 931 meters long and instanly identifiable by their long, catamaran-like double-dorsal interconnecting hulls, and of course absolutely armed to the teeth. It would be interesting to see what may come after the beautiful Sovereign class, what ship design would indeed succeed the gi-normous Galaxy from TNG – and not in an alternative timeline or some parallell universe, but in the current timeline. So to speak…
Hey, John, maybe everyone from our universe could escape to another one? Maybe? That would be interesting.
Btw, have either of you two aspiring geniuses ever seen the ST/VOY episode ‘Author, Author’? It had to do with a holonovel (after everyone else of the other Voyager regulars took a crack at it), written by The Doctor, called ‘Photons Be Free’. Very amusing – and telling. Well, not very amusing to the thosands of duplicate EMH’s all across the Alpha Quadrant, now put to work in dilitium mines. Their near-universal unpopularity, combined with the schematics of Jacob Starling’s mobile EMH emitter (which allowed the Doctor to go anywhere), made them ideal holo-slaves for the dangerous work in the mines. Makes one think, doesn’t it?
~Johnny
Hey, I don’t have to re-register this time, lol!
One thing, BE, you’re operating on a false assumption. Seven years needn’t elapse before there are problems with Vulcans, per se. They aren’t all on the same schedule. Based on statistics, there are about 2 male Vulcans entering Pon Farr daily, unless you presume an over-abudance of the escapees were children. So, don’t let that be a deterrent to your storywriting.
Cheers,
~Doc
Steve, Yes,I should have said seven year MAXIMUM fuse on those pointy-eared hob-goblins.
As for Pike and the Talosians, as I recall he extricated himself from The Cage without much help from Spock.
In this timeline, for reasons still unexplained, the birth of Spock and the launch of Enterprise got delayed by a couple of decades. My theory is that Pike still encountered the Talosians as a young man, but with a different ship and crew (probably similar to the Kelvin)
Pike’s adventure in the Menagerie would have doubtless remained one of the most memorable episodes of his life. I am sure that when he finally met and befriended Spock, that he would have told him the tale.
@ Brighteyes:
“Not as up on “Voyager” as I am on TOS. Janeway always struck me as the anti-Kirk, always screwing her crew out of a ride home to uphold the Federation’s ideals.” (Italics mine).
Look, BE, not to be chewing you out, but this comment reminds me of a conversation I & three other students at college had once, long ago, about ‘The Law of The Land’, i.e., what we all know protects us from descending into utter chaos. One of us was a judge, twenty or thirty years older than the rest of us, who pointed out that “some technicalities” that bad guys usually get off on, when “everybody knows they’re guilty”, are the safeguards that they really are – honestly!
Those technicalities, he pointed out (with the authority of someone who knew, and which he dealt with on a daily basis) were in fact the Bill of Rights, those laws that protect us from the abuses of ‘The Law’.
If Captain Janeway, as you so sanguinely put it, was willing to “[screw] her crew out of a ride home to uphold the Federation’s ideals…” it was only because she was trying to uphold Federation ideals (Federation LAW) which she believed – correctly, in my opinion – to be absolutely universal, not just confined to our own galaxy, let alone to our own Alpha Quadrant!
In other words, “either we’re all goin’ to Heaven, or we ain’t!”
Janeway knew very well, and understood with crystal clarity, what Captain Kirk also knew very well but often chose to ignore: That the Prime Directive, which was there for a good reason, was there to be respected, not re-sected. The fact that Kirk was able to so flagrantly disregard General Order Number One (Prime Directive) and get away with it through ‘technicalities’ (such as on Eminiar VII, where he “merely restored the natural course of their evolution, which included real war“) is a testament to his luck, NOT his wisdom, any more than his adherence to Starfleet regulations.
In fact, if you’ve been paying attetion, BE, the final 2-part Voyager Series Finale ‘Endgame’ was all about a much older, sadder, wiser Admiral Janeway, 25 years or so later, having witnessed her friends’ deaths (Seven of Nine died from a strange Borg-related disease that could easily have been cured if detected back in the Alpha Quadrant, and her then-lover, Chakotay, utterly disconsolate in his grief, later took his own life as a result), and blaming herself for letting 15 years go by instead of just 7, actually went back in time with a stolen starbase shuttlecraft, some revolutionary new replicative armor, and an anti-Borg virus – which she injected herself with – to thereby change the past and bring her people home early. Well, her younger, less gray counterpart, Captain Janeway, did…
You could say, Admiral Janeway pulled a ‘Captain Kirk’! Lol!
~Johnny
I always thought that Janeway was the most moral of the Captains. Picard upheld the Prime Directive pretty well too, but his situation was far less desperate. Sisko knew how to play dirty when he had to.
I thought Janeway went a little to far in her morality when she turned down Q’s propositon, Hadn’t she ever heard of “Taking one for the team”? If I were Janeway’s husband, I’d rather get her back a little worse for the wear than twenty years later when she was old and gray.
Of course “Q”, being the prick that he is, might have had his fun and then stiffed her for the ride home.
I wonder if Janeway’s last thoughts before her shuttle exploded were “Kirk was right all along.”
Of course if Kirk hadn’t broken the rules to save the Enterprise, there would be no Enterprise to save the Earth, and there would never have been a Picard, Sisko, or Janeway, a point that my own creation, Ridgeway points out, without even knowing it himself, much to Spock Prime’s annoyance.
@ Bright Eyes:
Exactly! This is what I was trying to say, in the end Janeway, who had so much more to lose, made the right decision for everyone’s sake, including her own (in a vicarious way, anyway), at least as ‘Admiral Janeway’.
You remind me of Sisko in that episode if DS-9′s where he faced down his own demons and resolved that he “would find a way to live with it”, with what he had done.
Also, Admiral Ross’ reminder (lesson in Latin, whatever) to Dr Bashir, in the episode of the same name, ‘Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges’ (DS-9) – “In time of war, the laws stand silent…”, the immortal words of the ancient Roman sage, Cicero.
Altho’, I needn’t reiterate, my preference is far & away for ‘Sic vis pacem, para bellum’.
Something a tool like Stanley Ridgeway would no doubt appreciate…after all, we are talking about Romulans, let’s not forget, lol!
~Johnny
what happened to this thread??? I finally saw the flick this thread has gone absolutely bonkers talking about Janeway and Tuvok!! That’s what I get for waiting so long to see it