Took two years for someone to notice that! Thanks, I’ve corrected it.

Vic

Enterprise was set before the Federation was formed and in several of the episodes where they talk about the future/are in the future, it says that the Federation is going to be formed and Archer plays a big part in forming it.

I agree that they could maybe do a series set in between Enterprise and well the new movie.

Enterprise, however, could have done well if they had gone all out and just removed it from the franchise altogether. Give them a different ship, and a different captain (or, at least, a different lead actor) and it might have done well as a stand-alone series rather than a Star Trek spin-off. It was too dark for a federation star ship and it had nothing to do with the federation anyway.

I think if they re-think the beginnings, and pay attention to continuity, they could come up with with a Star Trek: Federation or Star Trek: Beginnings that could be set both on terra firma as well as in a cold vacuum. In fact, I personally think that if they really wanted to do things right, they could have a series set in pre-federation months (or years of development) as well as a post Voyager (which appears to be the latest chronological installment) series running simultaneously. I think this would draw back long time loyal fans and non-fans alike.

If they really wanted to, I think they could make Star Trek come back to life; and, if it were possible, I (as an actor) would love to be a part of it. In fact, I would consider it an honor to count myself in the company of the myriad of faces that have had such a privilege.

It uses “where no ONE has been before” instead of “where no man has been before” which annoys the crap outta me. But I think that’s the only thing.

No, I wouldn’t say there’s anything like that in there – they just portrayed Uhura as a strong woman.

Vic

Actually we have quite a discussion going on here:

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-spoilers-vic-7732/

If you poked around the site a bit you would have found it.

Vic

So tNG, they fixed the role of interpreter with Diana Troy, a person who can read people’s thoughts, which gave the series an edge over the original in that every new species that was encountered who had never seen a human before did not automatically speak English. Picard gave the role of captian/commander and later admiral a feel that gave him a feel of true autonomy to command a star ship and ‘boldly go,’ truly. Riker and Beverly and Wesley and Gana and Warf and their interpersonal relationshiops brought a feeling of family and an iconicism to their characters that has only ever been matched by the original series.

Deep Space Nine and Voyager for me are the black sheep, but the concept for DS9 was one of the coolest ideas ever, it just didn’t have characters I could care about, and I stopped watching it consistently after season 2. Voyager had the same problem as the end of tNG, it got too clean and too regulated and too rosy, and I’ve never watched more than 20 episodes of that series, smattered all throughout the series, but I’d like to catch more episodes of that before I really comment on that series.

So now the movie… It was… amazing. Sorry, but while all the misgivings about the potential flop it could have been were valid and while I agree with most all of them, the potential for a bomb of a movie never turned kinetic. It’s an alternate reality, an alternate universe where the crew comes together in a whole new way, and the original seven are thrown together in whole new way that no one would ever expect because reality itself has shifted. Time shifts always have the potential to bomb, I’m a proponent of that more than anyone, but again, JJ Abrams took models that have worked and bombed in the past and they all worked in this film. The cinimetography throughout and the use of sound and the use of no sound while in the vacuum of space gives the impression exactly that these people are thriving with only their own technology walling them off from a cold death in space. The conveyed reality of the dangers of space combined with the very real feeling of a ‘Nato esque’ future air and space military organization gives this movie a grit that puts it solidly in the sci fi genre as a movie that makes you feel like you know what it would be like to be in the federation academy in 200 years.

This movie couldn’t cater better to older audiences, nor to newer. It delivers exactly what the people want, it wont please every fan but nothing ever will. I don’t think they could have done better.

So first off, I’m nearly 30, which means that knowing of Star Trek the original series for me puts most of the crew in their late thirties/early forties about the time of Wrath of Kahn, when Shatner is (going towards being) more the venerable diplomatic admiral than the swashbuckling athletic love crazed (like seriously, he falls in love nearly every third episode) captain that he was in the original series.

That being said, I feel I’m just old enough to have had a smattering of each culture in the Star Trek saga as it has come and gone, without being of the audience of the original series who might be past the point of being able to fully enjoy some of the newer titles. For me Enterprise took more of what they were lacking by the end of tNG that they had from the original series; bringing back the swashbuckling young(er) captain that doesn’t have a rule book and directive to follow step by step every time he meets a new alien species, who might make mistakes, but whom his crew trusts to the very end. It fixed exactly my problem with tNG towards the end, and for that it was one of my favorite series. I love all of the firsts in that series that are just given elements of the Star Trek universe; red alert, teleporting and their lack of diplomatic niceties with races that will later carry a stable alliance with the federation.

Next I choose to talk specifically about tNG, for me r

The Borg Collective has just succeeded in assimilating the Hierogen Empire, thus Borg drones are fast and unstoppable.

The United Federation of Planets are facing the reality of a Borg Galaxy, when one of their brightest sparks goes through Enterprise logs (circa Captain Kirk) and realise that they have access to an alternative universe. One where the Federation is more Piratical.

Think of The Vicious Federation from The Enemy Within.
The Captain of this ‘alternative’ federation is a complete buccaneer and a product of the same eugenics programme that created Khan (Space Seed)

This Captain is convinced to aid the Federation in its climactic space battle. A new Enterprise (souped up war machine) and they face the new Borg Queen (A reassimilated and vengeful Seven of Nine) over a colony world that hold’s the key to the whole strategy (The Former’s Homeworld?)

Sounds good?