Michael Dorn Confirms He’s Working on a ‘Star Trek: Captain Worf’ TV Series

Published 2 years ago by , Updated October 22nd, 2013 at 5:49 pm,

star trek worf tv show Michael Dorn Confirms Hes Working on a Star Trek: Captain Worf TV Series

Geek favorites Bryan Fuller and Bryan Singer have been forthcoming about their hopes for bringing Star Trek back to the small screen, after the release of J.J. Abrams’ elusive sequel to his Trek movie reboot next summer. However, it turns out those two aren’t the only ones with big dreams about a new TV series set in that sci-fi universe – Michael Dorn is also taking steps to reprise his signature Trek role on a spinoff, tentatively titled Star Trek: Captain Worf.

Worf, Son of Mogh, of course, is the first Klingon main character on a Star Trek TV series. He appeared on The Next Generation throughout its seven-season run, then became a Deep Space Nine regular for its last four seasons. Dorn portrayed Worf in all four Next Generation films; in addition, he played Worf’s grandfather, Colonel Worf, in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.

Rumors and reports about a prospective Worf spinoff began circulating earlier this year – which, perhaps not-so-coincidentally, marks the 25th anniversary of The Next Generation. Trek News caught up with recently with Dorn, who gave them the following exclusive “scoop” on the project:

“I had come up with the idea because I love [Worf] and I think he’s a character that hasn’t been fully developed and hasn’t been fully realized. Once I started thinking about it, it became obvious to me that I wanted to at least put it out there, which I have, and the response has been pretty amazing. We’ve been contacted by different individuals–I can’t say who and all that–about wanting to come on board and be part of this. “

Deep Space Nine concluded with Worf being made Federation ambassador to the Klingon homeworld, Qo’noS. An official prequel comic book to Abrams’ Trek reboot featured Worf as a Klingon Empire General, who battles the Romulan Captain Nero (Eric Bana, in Abrams’ film). Worf sustained life-threatening injuries during the encounter, but it was indicated he was still alive by the story’s conclusion.

However, the overlap between events on DS9 and the Star Trek film continuity has always been kind of fuzzy; hence, it stands to reason that could also hold true for a Worf spinoff and the post-reboot movies. Dorn’s in the same boat of uncertainty as Fuller and Singer, when it comes to how his plans are affected by Abrams’ films – as he put it, “there’s all the political stuff going on with the new movies with J.J. Abrams and Paramount and all that stuff, which I have no clue about and what it all entails, but that’s where it is right now.”

star trek worf Michael Dorn Confirms Hes Working on a Star Trek: Captain Worf TV Series

The in-progress subtitle Captain Worf is open to interpretation, as far as indications for when, exactly, the TV series could take place. Such a Star Trek spinoff would, for certain, retain the ensemble format of its predecessors to some degree – with a focus on the adventures of Worf and a new group of space explorers. Morever, Dorn says the show isn’t so much a pipe dream as one might think (at first):

“Interestingly enough it has gotten traction. I was very surprised, I was on a movie not too long ago, where one of the producers was basically lobbying to be part of it. He was like “Michael, I’d love to write it, if you haven’t.” So at this point, my agents and my manager are looking at all the avenues and trying to figure out which is the best one. My agent and manager have been in the business for awhile, so they’re very savvy about where to start and how to get it going. Like I said, in this business you never know and I’ve been through pitching things and I never want to do that again [laughs]. It’s pretty brutal, but definitely I think once again, if Paramount or CBS or anybody thinks this is a viable thing, they’ll jump on it.”

Worf’s Klingon manner and instincts often put him at odds with his fellow officers on The Next Generation, as hilariously highlighted in this 15-minute compilation video; still, there were a few episodes on DS9 that explored Worf’s personal sense of duty and honor beyond the surface level. Nonetheless, there does remain room for further development of the character – even given the substantial amount of backstory already in place for Worf.

However, as Dorn mentions above, the Star Trek: Captain Worf television series is far from getting an official greenlight right now. Nevertheless, we will keep you up-to-date on the situation as more information is released (or Dorn continues to talk about it).

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Source: Trek News [via Moviehole]

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  1. While I personally would love to see this come about… Michael Dorn pitched this four or 5 years ago to the studio execs. At that time he was told to come up with a script. I read a couple months ago that Michael had an interview, at a Con or somewhere, last year where he said that the show was dead and was not being pursued any longer.

    I wish websites as well as news channels did more research and substantiate claims before posting or broadcasting like you were taught in college . It’s no a wonder why Americans are getting dumber, everyone believes the first thing they read or hear and doesn’t get the information from multiple reliable sources to confirm anything!

    • Thank you for the information. Kind of a disappointment.

    • THIS.

      And, why haven’t we heard from anybody else (at CBS and Paramount)about this for months now?

      • Maybe because as several of the posters have noted on this thread, the project died two years ago?

  2. There’s no such thing as a subspace supernova that moves faster than light and gains energy — nor is it part of any theory. Anywhere. Inventing a b******* backstory for a comic doesn’t make it science either (they’ve done the same thing in the comics to explain why Khan isn’t Indian — or Ricardo Montalban), It’s fine, if it works, but it’s not science. Sure, Orci mentions QM in chatter with fans — that still doesn’t mean that anything in the movie fits actual theories. It’s a story device. They needed a parallel universe so they got one.

    Berman-Trek used science-y words, like tachyon, all then time to make plots work.

    People who understand science better than me (ex. Phil Plait) called b******* on Star Trek’s supernova. And a bit of technobabble in comic retcon doesn’t change it (it was released before the movie but written long after Star Trek’s script). I’m not saying it invalidates the movie (most of Trek science, like other scifi space science, is make-believe with, at best, a few actual-science words as frosting) — but if you think Orci-Trek adheres to actual science any more than previous incarnations, well, you’re wrong. Orci himself has said as much about the supernova (although he also joked that anything could be possible with string theory).

    Like I said, it doesn’t wreck the movie, but it ain’t science, It’s not even Fourth grade science. And it certainly takes one out of the movie for that few seconds — “wait a minute, a supernova doesn’t travel faster than light, so why the urgency and why didn’t they pick something else? oh yeah, because story.”

    There were a couple other lines that would have required just a trip to wikipedia or lunch with a physicist to fix — the source of magnetic interference at Titan, for example. Does it matter at the end of the day? Not really, but it would be nice for the actual physics in Trek to be accurate if there’s no story reason for it not to be.

    And come on, rampant speculation about superblood and genetic engineering isn’t science either. The argument that “it makes sense that (people will have healing powers, will turn into potatoes on command, will shoot rainbows out of their eyes” what have you)” still doesn’t make magic resurrection blood possible. You know that. It’s not real — and that’s totally fine. But it still ain’t science. It’s an invention for the story — and it also sucks the drama out of Kirk’s death.

    Is there a reason, scientific or otherwise, why you’re so demeaning and defensive to anyone who disagrees with your points?

    Pulling words out of the dictionary isn’t going to change how science views how supernova works. And it’s not going to make Trek scientifically accurate.

    It’s not science. That puts them on a level playing field with nearly all other Trek. You can still enjoy them — I do — but don’t pull out “they’re better because of science!” argument because it’s just entirely incorrect.

    • And……………..AGAIN Ladies and Gentlemen, the subject confuses a STORY ELEMENT with the CORNERSTONE of the story which was the Quantum Event that was the destruction of the USS Kelvin. It’s cute how you are terrified of the TRUTH.

      Quantum Mechanics is the basis for the creation of this new Parallel Universe. Orci said so BEFORE the film was released. Anyone paying attention knew this. But I suppose its easier to pretend THAT basis for the creation of the new Parallel Universe isn’t what science DEMANDS that it is (as Quantum Mechanics shows why stories like that in “ST IV: The Voyage Home” is NONSENSE.

      It’s also frankly hilarious how the Star Trek Countdown story is a “Retcon”……..even though it came out MONTHS before the movie did. Wait, don’t tell me: “Precon”????

      Funnier still, the bit about Khan. Tell us, oh wise one, was Malik an Arab in ST:Enterprise? He was one of Khan’s Augment brothers. His name is Arabic. Yet he was………….a WHITE guy. Even better is that people like you ignore the FACT that Ricardo Montalban was ALSO a WHITE GUY who Roddenberry and Company put in BROWN FACE for Space Seed. So Into Darkness skips the Brown Face, but now that’s somehow a “bad thing”?

      You again demonstrate you don’t really understand the Augments very well. I suggest you go back and rewatch the Augments episodes from ST:Enterprise and then tell me that it is somehow “Crazy Town” to believe that when designing a SUPER HUMAN from scratch, you’d need to design his blood to rapidly attack damaged cellular tissue and repair it even beyond what we know Platelet Rich Plasma Therapy does today.

      It’s common sense, but when one doesn’t like the answer, it’s easier to pretend it doesn’t exist.

      Just any FYI: I’m a Medic. Been one for 20 years. So if you think I’m pulling words out of a dictionary, you demonstrating even more foolishness than you previously have.

      How this works is: You post nonsense, I reply.

      So you keep doubling/tripling down on clumsily trying to make a never before seen type of supernova being the foundation/cornerstone of the story while ignoring the fact it was a story element, while QUANTUM MECHANICS and it’s QUANTUM EVENT is what made these stories different than previous Trek story numbskullery.

      This isn’t my first rodeo, we can play this game as long as you like.

      • Ricardo Montalban was not even close to “white…” He was Mexican, and well known in his early career for playing a wide range of ethnic groups. Please stay away from any injectable medications. Retcon, indeed…

        • Uh, I think you need to do some research kid. Ricardo Montalban was the child of two SPANIARD CAUCASIANS. One being born in Mexico doesn’t change one’s DNA. Perhaps it was his jazzy accent that got you confused? He was the son of Spanish immigrants Ricarda Merino and Jenaro Montalbán. Please don’t try commenting on things of which you are tragically misinformed.

          “Retcon” Indeed.

        • Perhaps a quick google of “Castilian Spaniards” (of which BOTH of Montalban’s parents were) would help you achieve an education on the subject?

        • Um maybe you didnt know, Mexicans are white. They are listed as white in every single legal form there is. Hence why black people hate George Zimmerman so much, he is a mexican, and he is white!

  3. …during each episode, Worf will say, at least once, “Maybe today is a good day to die!” And, after a season of that, viewers will yell at their TV’s, “Please! Just DIE already!” :-)

    • I’m thinking drinking every time the word honor gets uttered would be a decent way to get blotto fast.

  4. I would love to watch a TV series where Worf is the captain. I think he is a super character.

  5. Have there ever been any re-runs of Deep Space 9? I thought that show was pretty good.

    • Well you know there are completed DVD boxsets of Star Trek Enterprise, Star Trek Voyager, Star Trek TNG, Star Trek TOS, and Star Trek The Animated Series. No need to wait for reruns that also play the episodes in random order. They also include extra features such as interviews, behind the scenes etc. I have them all!

    • The new Blurays of ST:TNG with the new special effects, 7.1 Surround Sound and 1080p picture are absolutely amazing. Waiting for them to start a new Bluray edition of ST:DS9, with what they were able to do with redoing ST:TNG, the Dominion War on DS9 will look and sound unbelievably good.

      Till then, you can watch ST:TOS, ST:TAS, ST:TNG original edition, ST:DS9, ST:V and ST:E on Netflix and Amazon Instant Video (if you’re an Amazon Prime Member)for free over and over again as much as you want to. I’m currently on my 4th pass of ST:E on Netflix (rewatching Stargate:SG1 on Amazon Instant Video). I like working my way thru those old episodes between New Who episodes, they’re better than most tv shows these days with few exceptions.

      • I wanted to get the blue ray edition but was not sure. I got the original ST:TNG DVD when they got out, the pace was killing my budget as they start rolling out like two within a month or so, but if you say it is worth it I might consider it.

        The one I will wait for Blu Ray edition is DS9 as I never got to see the whole series due to air times and work/school. I missed the whole Dominion War part.

        • I’m telling ya, from the crystal clear 1080p (since the show was shot on Film, they were able to convert it to the 1080p digital format with relative ease, which is awesome if you’ve seen shows were they upconvert a program that was shot on video and the poor product it produces) to the brand new Special Effects and 7.1 Surround, it is LITERALLY like watching a new show. I’ve bought them religiously since they started releasing them and I’ve been pleased every time. The little specials and extras that they’re adding to set are nice as well. However, if you have a decent Home Theater, watching the new ST:TNG Blurays is like going from black and white to color. It’s fantastic.

          If you’ve never seen DS9′s Dominion War, Netflix Streaming is like $10 a month. If you have a bluray player hooked to the internet, game system like the PS3 or an Internet Ready tv, those episodes are right there, waiting for you to watch and rewatch (as I have done several dozen times over the years) whenver you select the episode and hit play. Netflix Streaming doesn’t have the redone ST:TNG, but you can watch DS9 to your heart’s content as much as you want, while only paying $10.

    • I have not seen any reruns of DS9 only Voyager which I saw entirely when it first aired.

      • That’s why I say Netflix Streaming is the way to go. I buy the Bluray sets for my collection, something to enjoy watching when I’m 80 years old and don’t have a life, but to get Star Trek whenever I want, I go to the Netflix Streaming. You can watch as much as you want and it only costs you a measly $10 a month.

  6. I could care less. The “Next Generation” is old, dated. It smells like the 80′s. It’s time to more on and do something else. Create a new Star Trek series that’s up to date with the 21st century, not a rehashed Next Generation spin-off with washed out actors who haven’t done much in the last two decades.

  7. Star Trek TV shows should be kept in the original Roddenberry universe. The Abrams Universe shouldn’t even influence it. The Abrams movies should be looked upon as a temporary aberration.

    • ABsolutely!!!!!

  8. this was a april fools joke

  9. I met Micheal Dorn at ECCC last year, and he told me that there was no plan for a Worf show.

  10. I hope they do this!!

  11. i think weather Michael Dorn aka Worf gets his own star trek series or not would not only be up to him but more importantly up to paramount whom seem to own all the copyrights to the gene roddenberry series and films. i personally love Michael Dorn’s acting and Worf character from the star trek next generation series and films, which i turned my family onto back in 1987 when i saw it in tv guide when it was still pocket sized(remember that? i do!) because his character proved to me even an old enemy class of aliens turned ally can be a very good thing. i have not heard a peep about this anywhere in the media, short of here, period. i would love it if Michael Dorn got his own star trek series, because i would definitely watch it, considering i am not much into science fiction tv/films. the only 2 films from the 1990′s i liked are the undiscovered country and nemesis. aside from parts 2, 3, 4, i quit watching when the 2 series merged with generations which i hated due to capt. kirks attitude. but if this is D.I.T.W. then so be it and oh well?!

  12. Bleh. Worf was the second most boring character on TNG. Pushing past Wesley ‘The Boy’ Crusher and only surpassed by his own son, Alexander, as the most boring thing going on that show.

    I’d watch a Captain Riker show. I’d watch a Captain Geordi show. Hell, I’d even watch a Captain Spot show. Captain Worf? No. He was and always will be a side character. It would be like giving Michael Richards or Joey from Friends their own shows… oh.. that happened. And look what happened..

    So ya, don’t bother with this one please.

    • Johnathan Frakes getting his own show? i would most definitely watch it! need to bring in mirina sirtis whom portayed Deanna troi to make it more authentic. Star Trek: Capt. William Riker? bring it on!

      • Frakes??? I’ve watched every Star Trek series and movie ever made, but I wouldn’t watch a Captain Riker series if you paid me.

        • Same, I love ST, but I cringe every time Frakes gives a line.

          • why people loathe johnathan frakes aka Lt. William T. Riker i doubt i’ll ever understand. at this point weather it be a Capt. Worf or Capt. Riker Star Trek series i am already there.

  13. If the show works out, why not havw=e some of the crew members of Voyagerm and, the
    Enterprise–NCC-1701-D(I think that this is the one where Picard was the Captain, that got destroyed, in the last film ever made where, Capt. Kirk is killed.

    As A bonified trekkie, I’d like to see the series take off, for another 10 years @ least. Who knows? It might even tie W/the original series!

  14. “Captain Worf” . . . HeII yes, bring it on!

  15. JJ Abrams ruined the star trek universe.

    Blowing up Vulcan was very uncool.

    We need to mark his movies as a parallel universe and go back to the original universe as far as a tv series. While I would love to see Micheal Dorn play Worf again, I want to see it where we all know the history and see what happens in the original universe. I want to see Janeway, Picard and even Wesley again. But I want to see them in the proper context. Essentially Abrams turned ST into Star Wars. More action based then tech and people based. If TOS had never existed and created Kirk Spock etc and given such a rich history, Abrams Spock and Kirk would just be fast action stars with no real depth. While I think His movies are decent action movies they are definitely not Star Trek!

    • someone seem to have NOT read the memo because (IF you watched the movie) Spock EXPLAINS that because of the Kelvin and Nero coming through that wormhole ..that one event cause everything to change..and it’s been said again and again that JJ Abrahms Star Trek is a Alternative Universe..just like in TOS “Mirror Mirror” where one single event change the course of history..the same thing happen when Nero appear during that point in time and destroy the Kelvin thereby forcing Kirk dad to sacrifice himself to give time for the shuttle to escape..*ugh* ..this is getting rather tiresome to be honest

      • Sorry HT

        I completely understand everything you said. And yes back in the day in TOS and later in DS9 I did enjoy those jumps into the alternate universe where Kirk and Spock were evil. BUT even if Abrams universe is an alternate one it seems to be where Paramount wants to play and the original timeline be damned. I and many other die hard fans want to make sure hte original timeline is preserved and explored even further. Let Abrams make his money with these blockbusters of his and I will likely watch them. But I want to make sure Paramount doesn’t forget its roots. I would like to see what happens after the last TNG movie and Voyager ended. Does B4 become Data? Or perhaps his frame ages like a real human to make Brent Spiner able to at least reprise the role? Even briefly? That universe needs to continue and not be forgotten. I have heard someone had an idea to do exactly that but some time far in the future where the Romulans have fallen and the Federation is falling apart. NOW THAT sounds cool. Use the original timeline history for a new show say 100 years in the future. Rikers and trois kids, Janeway’s and Picards family members, Worf’s family. All the rich history Roddenberry created should be continued. Many many ways to make that work.

        • ht…
          So, you’re saying alternate parallel) universe (like the Mirror Mirror episode, and others) AND going back in time.
          So, in the alternate universe, would it make sense Kirk goes through the Kobayashi Maru exactly how he described he did in STII: Wrath of Khan?
          Is the Federation in the recent movies as hostile as they were depicted in the Mirror, Mirror episode?
          When Spock Prime mindmelds with Kirk in ST:2009, do you recall Kirk asking if ‘he knew his father in the other timeline’ and not talking about any parallel universe? Or did you just disapprove of JJ Abrams’ involvement that you never watched it again?

          • I just think the recreation of Roddenberry’s Trek into something more akin to Star Wars was a mistake. It really was all about shaking things up so much to appease the action loving younger crowd to make money. Nothing wrong with that, but us ‘old fogeys’ love what we had. Ripping it away and replacing the entire universe with another in the franchise id not what I want to see. Even LeVar Burton(Jordi) was in an ET interview stating although he enjoyed the movie he also disliked that Abrams ‘erased’ TNG essentially. I dont realy remember seeing anything saying this was ‘officially’ an alternate universe. Technically it would be or we would have never seen the previous shows. But noone has ever said the original universe would ever be produced again. As a mid fortys fan I hopo to see that again in my lifetime. That is all I am really saying. Abrams vision is fine for what it is, but I will state again it really is not Star Trek in the way Roddenberry created it. Pure hard action is awesome, but it is not the same.

            • Perhaps you missed it, but prior to “Star Trek” (2009), the Star Trek franchise was…..—D-E-A-D—

              After the ST:Enterprise series and the wretched “ST:Nemesis” film, the average fans didn’t care anymore, so Trek was in it’s coffin. What Abrams, Orci and Kurtzmann did was make Star Trek interesting for for a target audience that had never SEEN a Star Trek show or movie (including bringing in the largest international audience Star Trek had ever seen), thereby bringing the franchise back from the DEAD. We can sit here and wax poetic on how going back to Roddenberry Trek is the way to go………but Roddenberry’s way failed. Us “Old Fogeys” who have been watching Trek for 50 years can see that plainly enough if we care to pay attention. What Abrams and Co. did was make Star Trek a SUCCESSFUL franchise again, thereby ensuring we will get a 50th Anniversary film for Star Trek, something we never, ever would have gotten otherwise.

              Speaking of not paying attention, time and time again in “Star Trek” (2009) it said that the Quantum Event that was the destruction of the USS Kelvin by Nero’s 24th Century Romulan/Borg Tech Enhanced ship, the Narada created an —-Alternate Timeline—- (i.e. Parallel Universe ala String Theory/Many Worlds Theory). So perhaps LeVar Burton wasn’t paying attention either. The events in this new Universe didn’t erase the TNG adventures anymore than the events in the “Mirror, Mirror” Parallel Universe did. As everyone knows, ST:TNG “Parallels” showed millions of Enterprise-D’s from millions of Parallel Universes. Universes where the Borg had conquered the Alpha Quadrant, Universes where Worf married Deana, Universes where Riker was Captain of the Enterprise. One of those Enterprises could have very well been from the future of this new Parallel Universe….ALL while the Trek Prime Universe keeps ticking along. Star Trek hasn’t been consistent with it’s Time Travel/Parallel Universe stories, it’s just that this story decides that rather than going with the silly “Back to the Future”/”STIV:TVH” brand of Time Travel stories, these films go with the —Science— which is VERY “Star Trek”.

              It’s absurd to think that anyone beyond hardcore fans would pay to go see a film that chronicles the story of Kirk Prime’s time starting out in Starfleet. That story has been told, there would be no suprises in a story that everyone knows how it ends. So there is no where compelling to go with that story that is going to put even people in the theater to make it worth the investment of the Studio. Hence, telling stories in a Parallel Universe (for the first time showing where said Parallel Universe diverges from the Trek Prime Universe) makes for compelling stories where people don’t know what it going to happen. Are there similarities? Quantum Mechanics (i.e. Physics) demands that there are, but there are things that evolve radically differently. The Kirk and Spock in this Universe embody that concept. If you don’t want the New Parallel Universe, Star Trek Online, the current home of the Trek Prime Universe, is there whenever you want experience it again.

              Not sure how developing a new parallel universe is all about hard action. Yet putting in action while telling a good Science Fiction story worked. It’s absurd to say that Star Trek isn’t about action. One can’t watch the DS9 Dominion War storyline and say that the foundation of that story wasn’t action i.e. WAR while telling a compelling Science Fiction story….just like this film (except this film just has better special effects).

              I’ll leave you with a quote from one of Star Trek’s Founding Fathers: “I think the alternate universe was necessary. I think it was a very solid idea and necessary because, although it broke canon in a certain kind of way, if they didn’t do the alternate universe, they would have broken canon in other ways. It was constricting. There was so much history to be dealt with that if they did not do the alternate universe it would have been so constricting and it would have been very, very difficult to tell an exciting story without stepping on some toes somewhere. So, by doing it this way, I think they gave themselves a new canvass to work with. I think it was a very wise idea.” – Leonard Nimoy, StarTrek.com March 25, 2011

              Nuff said.

              • @ TheRentschmeister

                I agree 100% with your,however,I think at this point that argument is a lost cause for some people because it’s very difficult for some people to accept that change and they have a dislike for JJ “lens-flare” Abrahms (probably steam from LOST) but I digress. My first foray with Star Trek was actually TNG when it debuted back in ’87 and i try to keep up with the series while growing up..when DS9 premier i wasn’t so keen on DS9 so i skip that show and then Voyager premier and it kept me watching. As for the movie i had a friend who always teased me about Star Trek and then JJ Abrahms Star Trek came out and he loved it. You know what happen after that? he took to watching TOS on Netflix. You know what happen after that? HE actually started to watch TNG..after he watch TOS he finally understood why i loved Star Trek so much..and this is a guy who is a fanatic of all Star Wars. I’m not disputing your argument but i wholeheartedly agree with it; they just don’t want to accept THAT(2009 Star Trek) put Star Trek back on the map and the BO receipt proves it. The less said about Into Darkness the better because we all know that was a rehash of TWOK albeit with a twist here and there…IF nothing else people need to give credit where is do to Abrahms because – again – he revitalized Star Trek from the dumps after Nemesis. J/S

                • In defense of “ST:Into Darkness”, the story wasn’t really a rehash of ST:TWOK. It was their universe’s “Space Seed” coupled with several other elements from previous stories. The 24th Century Narada that cut through Starfleet and Klingon ships like a hot knife thru butter was a game changer. Khan was always out there in the Botany Bay when the Kelvin was destroyed. The fear that came from the aftermath of the Narada led to Admiral Marcus searching for a game changer. In the genetically engineered supermind of the Ubermensch that is Khan, he found that game changer. That is what the USS Vengeance embodied. Was there a sacrifice similar to ST:TWOK at the end? Sure. But Quantum Mechanics demands that there would be similarity/commonality involving these people at some point in their lives. Just as the parallel universe versions speak the same language, the clothes are a similar color, etc.

                  Many Worlds Theory dictates that (as Lt Commander Data discusses in ST:TNG “Parallels”) “all possibilities that can happen do happen” in a parallel universe. According to theory, there are going to be a much larger number of universes in which events are very closely related, because those are the most probable configurations of things. Some things will evolve differently in many of these universes, random events that don’t reflect the sister universes that are closest to them. They are the exception, not the rule. But for the vast majority, as the basic energy that makes up each universe is manipulated and the ripples from said manipulation spread thru the Multiverse, commonality/similarity IS the rule. So having events in one universe evolve like another universe even after a quantum event is merely the quantum energy guiding the universe back into the stream alongside it’s sister universes. Hence the people of the Alpha Quadrant in the new Parallel Universe didn’t all evolve a second head (though Many Worlds dictates that there is indeed a universe where that happened, just it’s much farther away from the Trek Prime Universe than this universe is in the Multiverse).

                  When you look at the way ST:ID performed overseas, the story worked. Looking at scores like that on Rotten Tomatoes where Critics gave it a 87% Fresh Score and the General Audience gives it a 90% Fresh Score, it achieved it’s goal of making a well received story. Probably as close to “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” style story that Star Trek is likely to get any time soon.

                  I was sold on the new story as soon as I read Orci and Kurtzmann’s “Star Trek Countdown” graphic novel several months before the first film was released. It wove Picard, Data, LaForge & Co. after “ST:Nemesis” into the story of the film. From Spock’s Jellyfish ship being designed by Geordi to Captain Data and his Enterprise-E trying to assist Romulus prior to the singularity incident, it was top notch.

                  That gave me high hopes that an Orci helmed 3rd film (from a guy who waxes poetic about the V’ger story from ST:TMP) painting for us the deep space exploration of this Universe’s Alpha Quadrant would bring the great effects while weaving a deeper story about what it is to be human. We’ll have to see what happens and hope for the best. If the 2016 50th Anniversary Film is as good as the Doctor Who 50th Anniversary episode was last year, I’ll be happy.

  16. All good points here. I realize ST prime universe had plenty of action. And as I mentioned I enjoy action. Another poster mentioned TOS and TNG were mostly about exploration and I guess I miss that. I love seeing a cross section of the trek universe when there is some plot at star fleet or an alien race that wants to conquer us, but I liked that original feel. That said I enjoyed every single bit of the prime trek in all shows..including Enterprise, because it drew a really great history/timeline. I also enjoyed all the time travel scenarios but they all returned to the prime universe after. Each show did a good job building a family feel in the crew and that coupled with the future tech is what made me watch the show. I actually cared about the characters and want to see more. Abrams universe was so fast paced that if you didn’t already know the characters you would not have even known them. Example I actually enjoyed seeing Kirk meet Bones for the first time and Bones ranting. Even though younger and a different actor As soon as I saw him I knew who it was and that was really cool. Again though if I didn’t already know who he was I dont think I would have cared about him or anyone else because Abrams didn’t really need to do much character building. I still have to say in my opinion I would have preferred a different approach to the reboot. Seeing the ‘prequel’ when Kirk was young is pretty cool, but I am done with it. Time to fast forward in the prime universe and come up with something new.

    And I am not really meaning to hate on Abrams. I totally enjoyed Lost (except maybe the end) and Alias. I mean is there anything better than a hot female spy? Jennifer Garner had it in spades. Cancelling that show was a major mistake.

  17. with the success of abrams star trek , the expected success of star wars, of films like Gravity, of guardians of the galaxy – still no first run space based tv series ? too expensive or isnt there the public appetite for a weekly series set away from earth .

    Anyway glad to see this thread still has legs – if this ‘Michasl Dorn confirms..etc’ thread was a Trek series we’d be into the third season by now