Star Trek XII will undoubtedly be another action movie, so I’m still waiting for a science fiction with some humanity to it, like the real franchise has, like Babylon 5 has, and so on.

Ya I am more familiar with the next generation, I like all of those movies but thought Nemeses fell short.

Plus it has several great scenes, the opening with Kirk climbing the mountain, and the hillarious ending ” What would God want with a starship?”

And in regards to deaths in Star trek (2009), the ships Doctor was killed, as were presumably others, when Nero attacks the Enterprise above Vulcan

Thanks man! I wont waste my time on it then…I wouldn’t mind seeing 1-4 for old time sake, I remember The Voyage home but thats about it.

It starts with Kirk and Spock as kids, jumps forward to the barfight sequence, then three years later when they are in the acedemy. Then the main story begins.

Not to mention the opening on the Kelvin!

Voyager was the worst assualt on television ever! Seriously, space indians!!!! Sorry space native americans. How it ran for seven years is, and always shall be, a mystery!

Actually one of the crew fell to his death attempting to land on the mining platform over Vulcan and the movie is somewhat over rated in my opinion. The Kobayashi Maru scene could have been ten times better. You can’t hear Corvette tires squeal on sand and dirt as if you were on blacktop, the Enterprise bridge looked like it should have had an APPLE logo emblazoned somewhere and they fell somewhat short, casting for Sulu, and Chekov, and I thought the comic prequel was as good or better than the movie just to name a few things.

Of course it would be unfair to be negative all the time the trailers for the movie were cool, especially the Enterprise going to warp. In fact I would say that some of last year and this has been ‘the year of the trailers.’

If J.J. would ask me to take lunch with Harlan I would ask Harlan how much he wanted to pitch a story and an outline together? Then I would ask him to get with his lawyer and draw up the terms of a contract to do a story with as many rewrites as it took to make it work. I’d tell him to put in the contract what ever he thought was fair. I would then tell him that the contract him and his lawyer draws up will be the basis of a negotiation for a working contract. Set a time limit for them to set an appointment with J.J.’s team for the negotiation and when he could make the pitch and report back to J.J.

If you could combine the intellect of a story from Harlan with the energy and action from Kurtzman and Orci you’d have lightning in a bottle…

Oh, yeah, if you don’t suspend belief sometimes, you’ll never like a movie. LoL Have to just go with the flow!

I still hated the latest Trek and I’m totally sober right now,,,

yip your total right! i was thinking of ST5 its been a long time since I have seen any of the originals. as for Ellison’s meeting god joke sure i get it now! oh ya it was an alien and not god in ST5, its only been 20 years since i ve seen that one. I still remember it being lame…maybe i’ll give it another view?

@790 You must have watched a different Star Trek: Voyager than I did. In the episode that you’re referring to, Captain Annorax was not seeking revenge—he was trying to resurrect his dead wife and by extension his homeworld by wiping out other civilizations from history and hopefully changing the timeline in his favor. Furthermore, while the Voyager episode took place over the course of a year, STXI took place over the course of a matter of days—during which time the Enterprise crew managed to endure no casualties whatsoever, as opposed to the Voyager crew who ended up having to sacrifice themselves to save billions. Finally, “Year of Hell” ended with a reset button, which caused the entire story to be erased from history, per se; STXI did not resort to any such cop-out, much to the irritation of Trekkies who did not want to see an alternate reality created. So there are huge differences between the two stories; to say Abrams/Orci/Kurtzman ripped off the writers of that episode is quite a stretch.

If you think Harlan is too old or doesn’t have the chops to make a serious contribution to the new ST film, you either are too young to know who he is or just plain have a bias. Racist? The guy marched in Montgomery, Alabama with MLK! He’s Jewish! How racist can the guy be? His story for “City on the edge of Forever” got ruined by episodic television AND STILL WON THE WRITERS’ GUILD AWARD. The script called for huge standing stones with runes and the secretary didn’t know what runes were so she put “ruins”.

This, where there was supposed to be a shining, ancient city, glimmering on a hill in the distance. They gutted the story because it called for a guy selling space drugs of some kind (which they ended up more or less using on TNG) because Roddenberry, who had been a cop, felt there would be no more drug use in the future.

So, instead, McCoy, who is the chief medical officer on the flagship of the fleet, slips, and shoots himself with the entire contents of a hypospray.

AND IT STILL WON AN EMMY.

No, friends, the problem ain’t with Ellison. His biggest problem was that he was a late, late adopter of the Internet and didn’t realize what he was getting into by suing Time/Warner/AOL because they illegally allowed the copying of his work onto AOL–he didn’t realize what a juggernaut they were, and spent the rest of his considerable fortune losing that suit, which he should have won (and as it is, Time/Warner took the AOL out of their name).

JJ Abrams, Orci and Kurtzmann could do a lot worse than to have Harlan Ellison either pitch an idea to them, rework “City” into ST2, or simply be in the writing room while they’re working on it.

you asked why the Romulan dude waited 20 years for Spock and didn’t just go save Romulus….the answer is red matter! which he needed to carry out his revenge and then i am assuming to save Romulus…hmmm seems “logical” also are saying that Ellison the one who pitched the idea of the enterprise meeting god is the one to put logic into Star Trek? do you really think meeting god on some planet in space makes for good logic..WTF. sorry but the first Star Trek is my least favorite, I liked it up in tell they met god and then was like “WOW thats dum”! I do think Ellison could put some good ideas in to it but don’t think he should be the lead writer.