Does Spider-Man 4′s Next Rewrite Mean We Should Be Worried?

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News has surfaced that Gary Ross, writer of such films including Seabiscuit, The Tale of Despereaux, Dave and Lassie in the past and writer/director of some others (that we’ll discuss later), is being brought in to re-write the script of Spider-Man 4.

What does this mean for the movie?

On one side, Ross was likely chosen because of his growing relationship with Sony which includes his directing of a Lance Armstrong cycling film and his work on the in-development Tokyo Suckerpunch.

On the other side, Spider-Man 4’s script is getting yet another rewrite meaning there are major issues with it (probably due to what happened in Spider-Man 3). This leaves me wondering what direction the film will take after the last movie and how, or if, it will lead at all into the Venom spinoff movie we’ve heard a lot about.

If you were expecting to hear any official updates as to who the villain(s) may be in the next installment, expect to wait a little longer with this news.

With these rewrites, I hope we get a solid and polished story for the movie. I highly disliked Spidey 3 and this needs return to the form of the first two. However, the difference is that I would like to see more of a real villain this time. We’ve seen far too much of the same formula of “I’m not really a bad guy, science did this to me” villains who redeem themselves at the end.

I wonder what Sam Raimi’s involvement with the script and story is this time around…

Interestingly, the only two movies Ross has directed, Tobey Maguire has starred in: Pleasantville and Seabiscuit which were both good movies. On top of that, they have two in-development films coming up in Tokyo Suckerpunch and The Crusaders. That gives me some hope at least.

What do you think of this fourth installment getting another re-write? Are they just ensuring the quality or is it a big mess?

Spider-Man 4 is scheduled to begin production next year and open May 6, 2011, sharing the summer with other heroes including Thor, Green Lantern and Captain America.

Source: Variety

TAGS: spider-man 3, spider-man 4, tokyo superpunch, venom

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  1. Does anyone remember Kraven’s last hunt? Kraven hunting spiderman, burying him alive, impersonating him, framing him… meanwhile, Spidey’s friends have no clue why he’s now a villian (Ah Kraven!) Also Vermin could be replaced with The Lizard!!!!

  2. I liked how Kraven was first fighting with The Punisher over the life of Spider-man while he was the Man-Spider in the 90′s animated series. Then later the two worked together to bring the Man-Spider down long enough to get his shot to be human again. If they used the Lizard, i could see how easy Kraven can be used as a 2nd villain for Spidey to fight with while at the same time dealing with the Lizard and protecting him from Kraven.

  3. I can envision Lizard on the loose in NYC, and spidey having trouble capturing the slimy curt conners. Then Kraven, an old school british-empire era hunter from south african safari type of schooling being the only one who can capture him. So, Lizard would kind of be the 2nd villian and Kraven the primary. (my girlfriend thinks Tom Cruise would be a good choice for Kraven, I’m partial to Bruce Campbell, LOL)

  4. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON HERE, RAIMI DIDN`T LIKE VENOM BUT THEY FORCED HIM TO DO IT AND NOW THEY`RE ALL HAPPY THAT THEY KILLED HIM OFF THIS EARLY??? HOW COULD THEY BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THIS INFO COMES OUT OF NOWHERE LIKE HALF-SETS OF NOODLES, COME ON STUDIO, JUST USE THE RETURN OF VENOM AND CARNG IN S5, PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THINGS CAN`T SEEM TO BE ANY MORE MEANDERING FROM WHAT I READ IN THESE COMMENTARIES, PEOPLE JUST KEEP SAYING TO KEEP VENOM AND CARNAG OUT OF THIS, DON`T THEY SEE WHAT THEY`RE SAYING, I AGREE WITH 404, THEY`RE ACTING COMPLETELY AWKWARD WHEN THEY THINK THAT, I LISTEN TO PEOPLE`S COMMENTS ALL THE TIME,COME ON, YOU`RE PROCRASTINATING THE TRUE FACTS, IN S5 I DON`T WANT TO SEE SHOCKER, RHINO, OR ELECTRO, THEY`RE ALL INTERESTING BUT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD CARNAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND PLEASE WORK AS HARD AS YOU CAN TO MAKE IT WORK IN 5 PLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. i want to see the lizard,more dock ock,carnage,and scorpion those are the only four i really want to see as for side villains to make the stories more interesting i would like to see kraven hunting the lizard,and maybe mysterio,and more venom. no other villains would work these are the ones that should make the next cuts in spider-man 4,5,and 6.

  6. wow I never thought of that Tom Cruise would be good as Kraven o.O. They need to introduce The Black cat. That character is sexy. I love the comics where peter shows love for her even though hes married to mj :P

  7. @ Trust no 1

    Id like to see Felicia Hardy be introduced instead of them thinkin of bringing back Glen Stacy in a sequel. And then have Felicia become the Black Cat. Question is how, because wasnt it the same kind of serum or somthin that gave Captain America his powers? I know i seen it on the 90′s animated series.

  8. I forgot to say if they do have Felicia Hardy/Blackcat, they should hire Laura Vandervoort. She’s hot, perfect shape to be in those tight costume,lol.

  9. Spider man 4, 5, etc.? I think of Batman & Robin and what a piece of crap it was, but I have to admit… Arnold was an awesome Dr. Freeze. Raimi and his score of screenwriters needs to focus on developing Parker and 1 villain. And take a page from the Avengers plan at Marvel studios. A few films that build to a massive final one! LIKE… Kraven, then maybe scorpion, or electro but then a last movie with the sinister six, where you could bring back Doc Ock, Gobby, Sandman, etc. The multiple villain thing should be the finale. And again… Tom Cruise for Kraven? Tom needs to take himself a little less serious and this would give him a whole new fanbase. As far as Parker goes, he must at times feel very seperate from the new yorkers that he saves. He broods on building tops after all! If he saw a normal man (Kraven) one-upping him, that would be shaky for his ego. It doesn’t matter how good you think you are, there’s always someone out there BETTER!

  10. For me, it`s kind of hard to choose what the villains should be because Spiderman already took on a whole triangle of 3 very challenging villains on each vertice. It didn`t work well, but i kind of figured in each sequel the villain(s) get more challenging to take the series a bigger amount of steps up the ladder. The fact is, they`ve rushed in lots of the villains too early where it`s not proper for Spiderman to already go through that threat. I wish they would have just been aware not to use some of the best villains too early because then how would that carry on a proper chain throughout the entire franchise where the final movie(s) will have the heaviest showdown? It`s supposed to go in order from easiest to hardest, maybe this is what was meant for the series.
    * Start off with Doc Ock as the first villain, and make more sense out of him not making him too powerful and tone him down to be one of the weaker villains, that way he would have fit perfectly for the first movie.
    * Then have the next movie with, probably Scorpion.
    * Put Green Goblin and Lizard and probably Kraven as the next set of villains.
    * Save Sandman for SM4 along with another villain like Rhino or Shocker with Venom getting tied in some how in the last 20 minutes. Or maybe even set Venom up for S5 and replace him with another villain.
    * Pull SM5 off with a royal fight of Spiderman and New Green Goblin going up against Venom and Carnage at the end.
    I doubt they would`ve gotten the idea to do any of this, but if they did i wish they would have tooken their time to come up with a wisely developed story without having it rushed and thought uncarefully and not release the films too early, except Tobey Maguire would have gotten too old. I know that they decreased the crest to 2 villains, but i think that if they don`t do 3 villains again, it won`t give Spiderman the bigger challenge that flows over what makes something a reasonable analysis. I`m not sure what would satisfy the fans out there who were let down by S3, like, Lizard alone? That`s what some people think is going to HELP THE SERIES??!!! I`m going to admit my honesty, i`m tired of this” too many villain” discussion, i`m sure the fans who actually SAW s3 would suspect more than one villain these days, we should just face facts, they`ve pretty much messed up the franchise by putting villains in films where they didn`t belong. I`m just not sure what they should do.

  11. @ John K
    I thought Spider-man 3 could of been better but i wouldnt go overboard and say it sucked like many people have. Two reasons that got to me was instead of showing Peter dancing and stuff in the movie, they should of shown more of peter in the black alien costume takin out baddies more harshly then people have seen him do. Plus id like to think the film pretty much had two villains because Harry wasnt bad all throughout the film and he found out the truth and helped peter by giving his life. Why i dont know, but i think Raimi wanted to jsut add the name New Goblin for the credits. If People complain about too many villains they should recall The Dark Knight having 3 villains. besides that, Superman 2 had 3 villains, 4 if you count Lex Luthor and that film kicked ass. Sometimes i think alot of people are far too difficult to impress these days.

  12. I think that the only way to satisfy the fans for the right track of the franchise is if Venom, Carnage, and Lizard were the 3 villains and if SM and Venom team up to stop the final opponents. I know that`s alot but it`s the only way to recover the frachise. If there`s a SM5 Tobey Maguire will get too old but he`s completely perfect as Peter Parker. I wish people could just realize somehow that Tobey Maguire is completely perfect as Spiderman, he`s exactly what SM`s supposed to be, an average looking guy who looks like the name Peter Parker. And they both fit in well from their realities, they`ll probably have to push SM4 back even a little further, but if they make Tobey Maguire look a few years younger then i have no problem with that. I know that he was always a senior highschool student but you don`t have to be that young to be interesting as a superhero. To be honest, i wouldn`t mind a superhero who`s under the age of 34, or perhaps looks under the age of 34. You can be any age to be a superhero if that character fits you well, but since Spiderman is a cool superhero maybe they don`t want someone to old to be jumping off from a webline. But if S4 were to get pushed back to let`s say July 2011, and Tobey wud b almost or at 36 years old, but if they made him look as younger as possible to make him look properly shaped in the SM suit, then it can make things easier. Oh, and when you pack all those villins into 1 movie, the real rush is to get ready for production, whether or not you have to rush when you`re ready for production depends on how much time you have. I bet if they just spent about a year and a half finishing the film with more time to figure out how everything will be done with some more costume and prep makers involved, then maybe by some chance it will be a smooth, solidly planned action sequenced movie and not turn out as bad as people could expect from note to self. I don`t know if that`s what they`re going to do, but weren`t the fans really excited to see S3? that`s the only way to save the franchise if they do it right.

  13. ok you`re correct john, maybe doing 5 movies wouldn`t be the right thing to do, so yeah LET`S GO BACK TO GOING WITH LIZARD AND CARNAGE AS THE REAL VILLAINS IN SM4, PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH AND FIND A WAY TO BRING VENOM BAC WITHOUT REGENERATING HIM BECUZ WEN U BRING BAC A DEAD CHARACTER IT RUINS THE FRANCHISE PLEASE PUT IT THIS WAY PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THE PEPLE WHO SAY THAT THEY SHOULDN`T LISTEN TO THE YOUNG FANS ABOUT CARNG ACT LIKE EFFING BABIES!!!! Also Green Knight, this was from a long time ago but on this

  14. @ John K
    question for you is, wasnt there someone else other than Eddie Brock who became Venom in the comics? If so, they could easily use Venom again. I know i would encourage Sam Raimi to make the film quite longer, or not film silly scenes like Peter Dancing. I still dunno about Carnage/Lizard being the villains. Id like to see Venom return with a vengance along w/ Carnage and later on Spidey/Venom team up vs. Carnage. But your idea is interesting John about Spidey/Venom vs. Carnage/Lizard aslong the film tends to be action-packed. I really hope Raimi keeps the silly crap out if ya’ll know what i mean. On a final note, i think it would be interesting see Raimi pull off the final film with perhaps the Sinister Six.

  15. on this website greenknight u said venom was only in there as i candy, well you`re WRONG!! the symbiote was the most important part of the movie regarding from what his aunt said. and the suit turned him into somthing that`s not “him” if u no wat i mean. it`s kind of random to bring up, but people are leaving behind all the right details, they`re minds are just being controversial over something that generates an evoluting typical process. 404 minutes left is completely right, since venom was in the last one it simply makes no sense to put carnage in this one, that`s a general cantilever. Oh, and as he said earlier, they have to mention that symbiote in connor`s lab, and without the u no who what will they do with it? the only reason y u don`t care is because u don`t like them. so yeah, just except it the way it should be for the whole prospective to seem comfortable to MAKE THE MOVIES LOOK COMFORTABLE!!!

  16. I’ve stated that Black Cat should be used in this latest adventure and should also use the super solder serum storyline
    from ”The Incredible Hulk” film which was used on Captain
    America without using Kingpin and why she’s so obsessed with Spider-Man as stated in her first appearance in the 80′s Amazing Spider-Man comics. I hope that Scarlett Johansson or Ali Larter can play her if the script calls for her appearance.

  17. @ Ricky
    Do you think Laura Vandervoort would be a great choice aswell to play both Felicia Hardy/Blackcat?

  18. I don’t think that bringing in Black Cat would bring problems for Peter and Mary Jane. Maybe his alter ego..Spider-Man.
    I still think it would be fun. Maybe they could use Laura but I doubt they ever heard of her because ”Smallville” isn’t that mainstream because it’s shot in Vancover Canada. I still feel it would be between Scarlett Johansson or Ali Larter.

  19. No, no blackcat please. Peter and Mj have had enough relationship troubles already.

  20. I havnt seen or heard about Ali Larter in awhile. Won’t Scarlett Johansson be a problem if shes gonna be known as Black Widow in Iron Man 2, and to have her play Black Cat might confuse people.

  21. This is not the first time that an actor or actress in a Marvel movie project has done 2 different characters. Since I heard that Black Widow who will be in Iron-Man 2,apparantly wont be in The Avengers. I think that it’s possible that she play the Felicia Hardy/ Black Cat character as good as Black Widow.
    After all, Iron-Man and Spider-Man are two seperate movies in the Marvel universe I don’t think that any fan would be confused by that. I guess the powers that be will decide if Blackie’s in or out.

  22. DO the big shots see these posts on this and other websites?I have to say two things im hoping for in the franchise. 1. I hope Raimi doesnt have peter dancing etc.2. Maybe in the last film introduce the Sinister Six. If not Kingpin, I wonder how Felicia would get ahold of the super soldier serum.

  23. @ Ricky
    I just read on IMDB website that Scarlett Johansson will play Black Widow in Iron Man 2 aswell as The Avengers. It hasnt been confirmed but Hawkeye might make a appearance in Iron Man 2 & Avengers aswell.

  24. But this is not the first time an actor or actress played 2 different characters in the Marvel movie universe. It’s possible if Black Cat is used in this movie. Sam Raimi may
    want do use Ms Johansson to play Felicia Hardy because it’s doubtful that Bryce Dallas Howard may return as Gwen Stacy
    now that she’s involved in the ”Twilight” film series.

  25. SAM RAIMI AND PRODUCERS, PLEASE JUST PUT A TINY PUT BIT OF HORROR VIOLENCE IN THIS FILM PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND PLS DON`T REGENERATE A DEAD CHARACTER THAT`S 1 THING I HOPE U WON`T DO PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  26. i will see spider-man 4 it’s cool i like tobey maguire he’s cool so i will see him on spiderman movies again i hope tobey as spider-man team up with venom against morbuis played by jeff hardy carnage played by jim carrey this is exciting i love you tobey magiure im your cool fan i will see him on spider-man 4 in theatres may 6th 2011 see ya.

  27. You won’t see Venom in another Spiderman movie until Raimi steps down as director b/c he has made it clear that he hates the character.

  28. I think that we should stop hinting about Carnage being in
    SM4 also. Since Sam Raimi hates symbiotes the only way that well see Carnage is that he would appear in the Venom movie.

  29. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED HIM IN A SM MOVIE NOT IN THE VENOM MOVIE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS JUST SILLY, DID I NOT JUST SAY THAT IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY WEIRD NOT TO USE CARNAGE I`M NOT SURE IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE JUST KEEP SAYING THAT HE WON`T USE CARNAGE LIKE THEY THINK THEY`RE SO LEANING ON THE CURVE

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